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(WNEM Saginaw)   Apartment owner to all tenants: "Thanks for the rent, now GTFO in three days"   (wnem.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 5:18:19 PM  
Sometimes the answer should be no and try to make me. Plus now not going to pay rent.
 
2020-07-15 5:27:08 PM  
Three days in any sane state would be an illegal notification timetable, no matter what the circumstances, with a possible exception of a serious safety hazard.  My guess is that the city will lose their a**es in a court fight over this.  Doesn't the city have some kind of option to 'reclaim' property that is not being maintained and re-sell it to someone who will?
 
2020-07-15 5:33:46 PM  

A Cave Geek: Three days in any sane state would be an illegal notification timetable, no matter what the circumstances, with a possible exception of a serious safety hazard.  My guess is that the city will lose their a**es in a court fight over this.  Doesn't the city have some kind of option to 'reclaim' property that is not being maintained and re-sell it to someone who will?


Good question. The owner is an absentee landlord, and they're being punished for it.
 
2020-07-15 5:58:25 PM  
The owner lives outside the country"....So, which, I wonder?
 
2020-07-15 8:52:54 PM  
BBB
 
2020-07-15 8:57:08 PM  
Damn.  I sorta want to move in.
 
2020-07-15 8:57:16 PM  

eurotrader: Sometimes the answer should be no and try to make me. Plus now not going to pay rent.


Kind of done here. Squatters were already a problem with the landlord having fewer rights well before any pandemic. Good luck.
 
2020-07-15 8:57:26 PM  

mainsail: The owner lives outside the country"....So, which, I wonder?


without looking, I would guess China.   They started buying US real estate during the 2007-08 debacle and haven't stopped since.
 
2020-07-15 8:59:15 PM  
LOL stay and tell the city to get farked.
 
2020-07-15 9:00:29 PM  
So is that the landlord giving short notice, or the city? The article suggests it was the city.
 
2020-07-15 9:00:47 PM  
You're not even going to give them four days to hitchhike from Saginaw?
 
2020-07-15 9:02:18 PM  
Three days or quit?  Try three years and I have nothing that you can sue me for...

Yes.  I own a rental, my daughter doesn't pay rent.
 
2020-07-15 9:02:32 PM  
It took me four days to hitchhike from Saginaw... L I V E
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2020-07-15 9:02:55 PM  
It kind of sounds like the city is declaring the place a hazard to live in, and therefore no longer fit for occupancy.
 
2020-07-15 9:05:03 PM  

Stud Gerbil: mainsail: The owner lives outside the country"....So, which, I wonder?

without looking, I would guess China.   They started buying US real estate during the 2007-08 debacle and haven't stopped since.


We buy cheap Chinese crap, because we save money in the process.

The Chinese invest those dollars back into the US either by buying debt (i.e. loaning it to us) or by buying assets in the US (like real estate).

If this bothers you, reduce your consumption of Chinese made goods.
 
2020-07-15 9:05:13 PM  
They will get free masks, right? So all is well, right? Hands up for volunteers to take these people in. Just a few less Amazon purchases would be all these people need to survive.

Bah, who am I kidding I need to go buy a new cell phone case made by slave labor in a foreign land so I feel no responsibility then return it because it does not fill the hole in my soul. Landfills need to be filled so I'm doing my part.
 
2020-07-15 9:06:33 PM  
From reading the article, I think what has happened is the owner has run afoul of the city. Probably not maintaining the building. So the owner is saying "fark it", and evicting everyone.

According to this, the tenants should be receiving at least one rental period of notice. https://michiganlegalhelp.org/self-he​l​p-tools/housing/eviction-what-it-and-h​ow-does-it-start
 
2020-07-15 9:07:14 PM  
Mask up! Thoughts n' prayers.
 
2020-07-15 9:08:25 PM  

El_Dan: So is that the landlord giving short notice, or the city? The article suggests it was the city.


Specifically? It looks like the city told the property manager they were moving to condemn the building because the owner refused to fix deficiencies and the property manager had no ability to fix said deficiencies on their own because the owner never sent any money to allow them to do so.

So essentially the property manager probably feels like shiat but not much she can do at this point but comply with the cities notice and ask the tenants to leave in 3 days. It's the owners fault, although I also will place a fair amount of blame on the property manager for not warning the tenants that the owner wasn't making repairs the city was demanding and that there was a potential for this to happen. Seems like they probably just swept it under the rug and kept collecting rent checks until they couldn't avoid telling the tenants any longer. The cities don't do this sort of thing instantly, these processes take months if not years to reach the point where they tell occupants to GTFO. The property manager had plenty of time to a: warn tenants and b: refuse to forward any more rent payments to the owner until they solved the situation by either funding the repairs or financing them if they truly didn't have the cash on hand.
 
2020-07-15 9:09:09 PM  
This reads as: "Slumlord doesn't maintain building, City closes it down."

It's the definition of a Lose/Lose/Lose scenario.
 
2020-07-15 9:10:35 PM  
I have found a hill I will die on. The AP Guide as it applies to location. This article reports events in Saginaw. Saginaw, Alaska? Saginaw, Antarctica?

The standard I was taught when I briefly studied journalism was that you start a story with, for example... Kansas City, MO - The ass who diluted cancer drugs is going to be released early.

You know exactly where the story happened.
 
2020-07-15 9:11:55 PM  
I Googled Michigan eviction policy, but all I can find is landlord-tenant rules. Nothing about cities evicting tenants from non-city-owned property. 3 day notice doesn't seem to be even vaguely legal.
 
2020-07-15 9:12:07 PM  

Rob3Fan: From reading the article, I think what has happened is the owner has run afoul of the city. Probably not maintaining the building. So the owner is saying "fark it", and evicting everyone.

According to this, the tenants should be receiving at least one rental period of notice. https://michiganlegalhelp.org/self-hel​p-tools/housing/eviction-what-it-and-h​ow-does-it-start


I am reading it more of the city gave the owner a choose fix the issue or the city will condemn the building.  If a city condemns a place the 30 day rule goes out the window.  its 3 days and your out.


as the letter said they(city) decide to shut the place down.  so that sounds more of the city condemning it.
 
2020-07-15 9:12:49 PM  

AbuHashish: eurotrader: Sometimes the answer should be no and try to make me. Plus now not going to pay rent.

Kind of done here. Squatters were already a problem with the landlord having fewer rights well before any pandemic. Good luck.


For certain people, how about...
Paid rent two weeks ago, I'll take my refund now
 
2020-07-15 9:12:49 PM  

bongon247: Three days or quit?  Try three years and I have nothing that you can sue me for...

Yes.  I own a rental, my daughter doesn't pay rent.


You threatened to sue your daughter or you would but she has nothing? Bit sharp don't you think bruv? You a lawyer?
 
2020-07-15 9:13:22 PM  

Rob3Fan: From reading the article, I think what has happened is the owner has run afoul of the city. Probably not maintaining the building. So the owner is saying "fark it", and evicting everyone.

According to this, the tenants should be receiving at least one rental period of notice. https://michiganlegalhelp.org/self-hel​p-tools/housing/eviction-what-it-and-h​ow-does-it-start


Problem is, it sounds like the city shutting things down; those rights as written only apply vs the landlord :/
 
2020-07-15 9:13:27 PM  

baron von doodle: I have found a hill I will die on. The AP Guide as it applies to location. This article reports events in Saginaw. Saginaw, Alaska? Saginaw, Antarctica?

The standard I was taught when I briefly studied journalism was that you start a story with, for example... Kansas City, MO - The ass who diluted cancer drugs is going to be released early.

You know exactly where the story happened.


It's a local news channel.  It's unlikely they're going to have a local news story from another state.
 
2020-07-15 9:13:54 PM  
"We just had a newborn. He'll be two months on the 16," Robinson said. "Where we gone go in three days?"

Not sure if typo, or journalist interpreting what in the video clip sounded like he said either "where we gon' go" or "where we gonna go" with the last two words mashed together.  I wonder what, exactly, the newsroom policy tends to be for that sort of text-from-speech part of reporting.  For example, how do they decide if someone said "what are" or "what're" or "whatta" or "whadda".  Like you want it to be accurate, but you also don't want to formalize or dumb-down the written version of someone who speaks fast or has an accent.  I've always wondered about things like that, as well as cases where they have to infer punctuation when the choices change the meaning or connotation of what was said.
 
2020-07-15 9:14:04 PM  

jumac: Rob3Fan: From reading the article, I think what has happened is the owner has run afoul of the city. Probably not maintaining the building. So the owner is saying "fark it", and evicting everyone.

According to this, the tenants should be receiving at least one rental period of notice. https://michiganlegalhelp.org/self-hel​p-tools/housing/eviction-what-it-and-h​ow-does-it-start

I am reading it more of the city gave the owner a choose fix the issue or the city will condemn the building.  If a city condemns a place the 30 day rule goes out the window.  its 3 days and your out.


as the letter said they(city) decide to shut the place down.  so that sounds more of the city condemning it.


To sum up. The owner let it fall far enough in to disrepair that it got condemned which booted the renters. Then, in theory, the owner can rehab the place and rent at a higher rate.
 
2020-07-15 9:14:21 PM  

baron von doodle: The standard I was taught when I briefly studied journalism


Which you stuck with since it's such a highly paid and highly regarded profession these days?
 
2020-07-15 9:14:41 PM  
My 'Adopt a Hobo' outreach project is really gaining steam, Thanks Trump!
 
2020-07-15 9:15:43 PM  

The Third Man: baron von doodle: I have found a hill I will die on. The AP Guide as it applies to location. This article reports events in Saginaw. Saginaw, Alaska? Saginaw, Antarctica?

The standard I was taught when I briefly studied journalism was that you start a story with, for example... Kansas City, MO - The ass who diluted cancer drugs is going to be released early.

You know exactly where the story happened.

It's a local news channel.  It's unlikely they're going to have a local news story from another state.


Ok, in the article, explain where the local news station is.
 
2020-07-15 9:16:26 PM  
WTF is even the point? Who the hell can afford to fill the new vacancy?
Giving up a long-term tenant on a gamble that you will get someone else that is as good or better seems foolish with all that is going on.
 
2020-07-15 9:17:15 PM  

PunGent: baron von doodle: The standard I was taught when I briefly studied journalism

Which you stuck with since it's such a highly paid and highly regarded profession these days?


Hell, no. I was studying photojournalism when things were switching over to digital. I saw the writing on the wall.

Doesn't mean the AP Standard is wrong.
 
2020-07-15 9:18:13 PM  
3 days from now, apartment  building burns to the ground and all tenants continue to throw gas on fire and block fire department from the scene
 
2020-07-15 9:18:17 PM  

A Cave Geek: Three days in any sane state would be an illegal notification timetable, no matter what the circumstances, with a possible exception of a serious safety hazard.  My guess is that the city will lose their a**es in a court fight over this.  Doesn't the city have some kind of option to 'reclaim' property that is not being maintained and re-sell it to someone who will?


Seventy-two hours is the timetable for a notice of eviction before making the court filing in most states, which isn't strictly speaking the same as notice to vacate.

Eviction, regardless of what the contract says or how it's written, requires cause, and has to go to court unless the tenant voluntarily leaves in the three-day period.  Under normal circumstances that's a situation that heavily favors the landlord (though they will be extremely annoyed and losing a lot of money over it, they'll win the case and boot you out in around a month with the normal timeline), right now... not so much.

Accepting rent payments, then attempting to arbitrarily terminate the contract in the paid-for period without offering a refund and only giving the bare minimum notice... yeah, everyone but the renters is about to get farked by multiple courts, sans lube.  It's actually kind of impressive, it's hard to fark yourself as a property manager or landlord in a state that's as psychotically anti-renter as MI or TX.  But this idiot put the work in and managed it.
 
2020-07-15 9:18:37 PM  
Yes I'm old. I used to be really good in the dark room. Useless skillset now, of course.
 
2020-07-15 9:18:48 PM  
Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.
 
2020-07-15 9:19:28 PM  
Fail! A minimum of 30 days notice is required in all States in this country.
 
2020-07-15 9:19:45 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.


Yes, insult their grammar. Helpful.
 
2020-07-15 9:19:48 PM  

New Rising Sun: "We just had a newborn. He'll be two months on the 16," Robinson said. "Where we gone go in three days?"

Not sure if typo, or journalist interpreting what in the video clip sounded like he said either "where we gon' go" or "where we gonna go" with the last two words mashed together.  I wonder what, exactly, the newsroom policy tends to be for that sort of text-from-speech part of reporting.  For example, how do they decide if someone said "what are" or "what're" or "whatta" or "whadda".  Like you want it to be accurate, but you also don't want to formalize or dumb-down the written version of someone who speaks fast or has an accent.  I've always wondered about things like that, as well as cases where they have to infer punctuation when the choices change the meaning or connotation of what was said.


I felt like the author intentionally went out of the way to make everyone sound like illiterate hillbillies and now I will still probably thought and prayer them but it will be half-assed at best.
 
2020-07-15 9:20:51 PM  

baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.

Yes, insult their grammar. Helpful.


🤷♂
 
2020-07-15 9:22:22 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.

Yes, insult their grammar. Helpful.

🤷♂


You responded to improper word usage with symbols. That's rich.
 
2020-07-15 9:23:31 PM  
Make renting illegal, and eminent domain all rentals to the people inhabiting them, nation wide.  Problem solved.
 
2020-07-15 9:24:04 PM  

Por que tan serioso: New Rising Sun: "We just had a newborn. He'll be two months on the 16," Robinson said. "Where we gone go in three days?"

Not sure if typo, or journalist interpreting what in the video clip sounded like he said either "where we gon' go" or "where we gonna go" with the last two words mashed together.  I wonder what, exactly, the newsroom policy tends to be for that sort of text-from-speech part of reporting.  For example, how do they decide if someone said "what are" or "what're" or "whatta" or "whadda".  Like you want it to be accurate, but you also don't want to formalize or dumb-down the written version of someone who speaks fast or has an accent.  I've always wondered about things like that, as well as cases where they have to infer punctuation when the choices change the meaning or connotation of what was said.

I felt like the author intentionally went out of the way to make everyone sound like illiterate hillbillies and now I will still probably thought and prayer them but it will be half-assed at best.


My thought is that this is basically a transcription of an on-air report that was farmed out to a contractor or freelancer that lives on the other side of the world and barely has a grasp of the English language.  Or is poorly-developed AI.
 
2020-07-15 9:24:09 PM  

pxlboy: A Cave Geek: Three days in any sane state would be an illegal notification timetable, no matter what the circumstances, with a possible exception of a serious safety hazard.  My guess is that the city will lose their a**es in a court fight over this.  Doesn't the city have some kind of option to 'reclaim' property that is not being maintained and re-sell it to someone who will?

Good question. The owner is an absentee landlord, and they're being punished for it.


The owner is not punished at all, the residents are. This is just a line item on a list of investments for the owner. It's a total upheaval of life for the people who live there.
 
2020-07-15 9:24:14 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Make renting illegal, and eminent domain all rentals to the people inhabiting them, nation wide.  Problem solved.


That.... No. Just no.
 
2020-07-15 9:24:29 PM  

baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.

Yes, insult their grammar. Helpful.

🤷♂

You responded to improper word usage with symbols. That's rich.


But it is still worth 1,000 words.
 
2020-07-15 9:25:19 PM  
The Road to Gwinn is not for everyone, even with a 30 pointer.
 
2020-07-15 9:25:22 PM  

Mock26: baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: baron von doodle: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Where we gone go in three days?"

How about to a library.

Yes, insult their grammar. Helpful.

🤷♂

You responded to improper word usage with symbols. That's rich.

But it is still worth 1,000 words.


You even forked that up. They are symbols not pictures.
 
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