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(CBS News)   Kentucky Attorney General delivers a message to protesters seeking justice for shooting victim Breonna Taylor and who are now facing felony charges: His lawn, stay off it   (cbsnews.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 4:17:50 PM  
Any charges in the girl's murder yet?
 
2020-07-15 5:26:25 PM  

edmo: Any charges in the girl's murder yet?


Nope. Her killers are still free, and still have not received so much as a stern talking-to or an angry glare from the prosecutor or anyone else in a position to render some sort of lawful punishment onto them.
 
2020-07-15 6:11:09 PM  
"Due to their refusal to leave the property and their attempts to influence the decision of the Attorney General with their actions, each person was charged with Intimidating a Participant in a Legal Process (Class D felony), Disorderly Conduct 2nd Degree (Class B misdemeanor), and Criminal Trespass 3rd Degree. (Violation)."

yeah, only people with money connections who make a phone call to say the person is really a good person and ask to cut them some slack are allowed to influence decisions
 
2020-07-15 6:13:01 PM  
Gee, I wonder why they weren't upset about all of the armed protesters on the steps of the Governor's Mansion a few weeks ago.
 
2020-07-15 6:21:38 PM  
I believe they have not actually been charged by a DA-type, just that the cops (ACAB) tried to overcharge peaceful protesters.
 
2020-07-15 6:23:34 PM  
The blue grass at the executive mansion is fragile.
 
2020-07-15 6:25:18 PM  
When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand
 
2020-07-15 6:25:20 PM  
Oh that's a good one: Protest is now "intimidation".

But this was perfectly legal protected speech.

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2020-07-15 6:26:40 PM  

Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand


Exactly
 
2020-07-15 6:28:13 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly


Although it's hardly something that should be a felony and punishable by 1-5 years in jail.
Trespassing / misdemeanor at best
 
2020-07-15 6:29:34 PM  

Naido: Gee, I wonder why they weren't upset about all of the armed protesters on the steps of the Governor's Mansion a few weeks ago.


Because they are alike. Fascist white supremacist trash
 
2020-07-15 6:29:56 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly


Then charge them with trespassing, not some BS charge intended to prevent the Aryan Brotherhood from threatening to kill judges.
 
2020-07-15 6:31:01 PM  
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2020-07-15 6:31:38 PM  
Republican corruption is absolute and complete.
 
2020-07-15 6:32:28 PM  
The trespass charge may stand.

The "intimidation" charge, to make it a felony, will not hold up. It's utterly unconstitutional.

The KY statute in play has been interpreted by their own courts to require explicit acts of violence or threats of injury or death, in order to avoid unconstitutionality.

There's no reporting of such threats at all.

The over-charging is, itself, an effort to intimidate residents and protesters to STFU about the murder and let it go.
 
2020-07-15 6:33:40 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly

Then charge them with trespassing, not some BS charge intended to prevent the Aryan Brotherhood from threatening to kill judges.


How about don't show up at the man's house, with his family inside, in a large group shouting slogans and carrying signs.
Go to the Government buildings where they do government business and protest there.
 
2020-07-15 6:33:46 PM  
Never more appropriate:

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2020-07-15 6:36:21 PM  
So between this piece of shiat and Moscow Mitch, I think it is safe to say that Kentucky sucks. There is not one good thing about Kentucky and nothing worthwhile has ever come out of that festering ++&^$(^(*+++++CARRIER LOST++++++++++
 
2020-07-15 6:37:33 PM  

phrawgh: The blue grass at the executive mansion is fragile.


It's a mix of Kentucky Bluegrass, featherbed bent and Northern California Sinsemilla.
 
2020-07-15 6:38:16 PM  
They didn't come for cocktails bud, but you were still a terrible host to your neighbors when they dropped by for a nice talk. Maybe next time they can bring a few to share.
 
2020-07-15 6:38:26 PM  
If you're gonna get a felony charge for peaceful protest, and the farker who you are trying to move will respond by being more of an asshole, why bother?

Those who make peaceful change impossible... Let's just say this type of behavior leads to escalation, and escalation leads to violence.
 
2020-07-15 6:40:35 PM  

adamatari: If you're gonna get a felony charge for peaceful protest, and the farker who you are trying to move will respond by being more of an asshole, why bother?

Those who make peaceful change impossible... Let's just say this type of behavior leads to escalation, and escalation leads to violence.


Why won't these people protest like I want them to protest? And then we can ignore them and make no real changes.
 
2020-07-15 6:41:05 PM  
I would recommend they do something;

but which by the TOS of this site, I cannot detail any further.
 
2020-07-15 6:42:41 PM  
You know, when your administration is being accused of corruption and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice on a massive scale, I don't know that "AH HA!  I have a special law that I can use to arbitrarily jail protesters that I only use when I feel like it because the protesters disagree with me and there's nothing you can do about it!  CHECKMATE LIBS" is quite the trump card your dumb ass thinks it is.

Since, y'know, only enforcing the law when you feel like it is a big farking felony in itself?  Like... one of the major specific laws that define what "corruption" is in the legal sense?

Like... doing this with these protesters when the state very visibly didn't do it to another, whiter set of protesters less than a month ago isn't just a breach of ethics, generally it's an actual crime.  Also a pretty obvious first amendment violation... basically the cases getting tossed out of court and the judge telling you to stop being a coont is the good ending for this kind of executive-tier Karen shiat.
 
2020-07-15 6:44:50 PM  
I bet if the protesters were anti-mask goobers, Danny would have invited them in for beer & ribs.
 
2020-07-15 6:45:48 PM  

Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand


I love it when Trumpkins law talk. Tell me some more about laws. Do they apply to everyone? Even the president?
 
2020-07-15 6:45:51 PM  

AstroJesus: Never more appropriate:

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BSAB has never been appropriate.

/NIXON, YOU DOLT!
 
2020-07-15 6:45:55 PM  

gunga galunga: So between this piece of shiat and Moscow Mitch, I think it is safe to say that Kentucky sucks. There is not one good thing about Kentucky and nothing worthwhile has ever come out of that festering ++&^$(^(*+++++CARRIER LOST++++++++++


Isn't Rand Paul from Kentucky. Literally just as bad as Moscow Mitch.
 
2020-07-15 6:50:43 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: I bet if the protesters were anti-mask goobers, Danny would have invited them in for beer & ribs.


Beer and ribs and some light gun-fondling.
What's second base for ammosexuals?
 
2020-07-15 6:54:13 PM  
87 people, 3 charges each. That's 261 charges.
How many convictions do we think will result from this?
How many jail sentences?

I'll say 22 and 0.
 
2020-07-15 6:59:55 PM  

Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand


Nope.
 
2020-07-15 7:06:01 PM  

Naido: Gee, I wonder why they weren't upset about all of the armed protesters on the steps of the Governor's Mansion a few weeks ago.


Is the Governor's mansion private property?
 
2020-07-15 7:12:36 PM  

eiger: adamatari: If you're gonna get a felony charge for peaceful protest, and the farker who you are trying to move will respond by being more of an asshole, why bother?

Those who make peaceful change impossible... Let's just say this type of behavior leads to escalation, and escalation leads to violence.

Just about the only actual change to come out of any of this (I'm not talking about painting BLM murals and then turning around and raising the police budget) came when people burned down a police precinct.

That lesson will not be lost on people.


Sad but true. They were doing the usual foot dragging and taking their time with those cops. All the sudden, when shiat got serious and the police precinct got burned down, there was an immediate sense of urgency and those fuxkers were charged luckily split.

/surely just a coincidence
//super unfortunate it had to be that way
 
2020-07-15 7:14:26 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly

Then charge them with trespassing, not some BS charge intended to prevent the Aryan Brotherhood from threatening to kill judges.

How about don't show up at the man's house, with his family inside, in a large group shouting slogans and carrying signs.
Go to the Government buildings where they do government business and protest there.


They've been doing that since May. The murderers are still free. Don't pretend telling them to go protest somewhere more convenient will work.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/protesters-​d​emand-mayor-fischer-fire-lmpd-officers​-who-shot-killed-breonna-taylor/articl​e_fc730d3a-9f6c-11ea-9fc9-9f0aaf367e10​.html
 
2020-07-15 7:15:16 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly

Then charge them with trespassing, not some BS charge intended to prevent the Aryan Brotherhood from threatening to kill judges.

How about don't show up at the man's house, with his family inside, in a large group shouting slogans and carrying signs.
Go to the Government buildings where they do government business and protest there.


The police didn't wait for Breonna Taylor to show up at a government building before killing her. They didn't kill her during office hours.

Why is the DA entitled to clock out at five and be free from politics, when the people who are impacted by the DA's decisions don't have that luxury?
 
2020-07-15 7:16:15 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: Herr Flick's Revenge: Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand

Exactly

Then charge them with trespassing, not some BS charge intended to prevent the Aryan Brotherhood from threatening to kill judges.

How about don't show up at the man's house, with his family inside, in a large group shouting slogans and carrying signs.
Go to the Government buildings where they do government business and protest there.


To be fair, going into people's private residences and being violent is kind of what started this in the first place. Maybe the police should just try to murder innocent people at their place of business to make it fair for everyone.
 
2020-07-15 7:23:16 PM  

VictoryCabal: The police didn't wait for Breonna Taylor to show up at a government building before killing her. They didn't kill her during office hours.

Why is the DA entitled to clock out at five and be free from politics, when the people who are impacted by the DA's decisions don't have that luxury?


If you want the police to be criminal liable for what they did because they disturbed Breonna Taylor's residence at odd hours, why shouldn't the protesters also be criminal liable for disturbing the AG's residence at odd hours?  If you're going to make that equivalence and all.
 
2020-07-15 7:26:08 PM  

wejash: The trespass charge may stand.

The "intimidation" charge, to make it a felony, will not hold up. It's utterly unconstitutional.

The KY statute in play has been interpreted by their own courts to require explicit acts of violence or threats of injury or death, in order to avoid unconstitutionality.

There's no reporting of such threats at all.

The over-charging is, itself, an effort to intimidate residents and protesters to STFU about the murder and let it go.


Could this be considered prosecutorial vindictiveness and/or a conflict of interest for the AG because of his personal involvement?
 
2020-07-15 7:26:18 PM  

Dork Gently: VictoryCabal: The police didn't wait for Breonna Taylor to show up at a government building before killing her. They didn't kill her during office hours.

Why is the DA entitled to clock out at five and be free from politics, when the people who are impacted by the DA's decisions don't have that luxury?

If you want the police to be criminal liable for what they did because they disturbed Breonna Taylor's residence at odd hours, why shouldn't the protesters also be criminal liable for disturbing the AG's residence at odd hours?  If you're going to make that equivalence and all.


Well if all the police did was disturb her residence at an odd hour, what is all the hubbub about?
 
2020-07-15 7:28:17 PM  
Fark this piece of trash, and his frivolous criminal charges.  DAs are cut from the same garbage cloth as police union spokespeople, except that they generally have IQs above room temperature, which makes them worse.

And fark his bullshiat "thorough and fair investigation".  The time he's taking has nothing to do with getting a conviction or the pursuit of actual justice- he's just looking for some way to exonerate the cops.  Anyone else would be waiting in a jail cell for this "investigation" to finish.
 
2020-07-15 7:31:22 PM  

Dork Gently: VictoryCabal: The police didn't wait for Breonna Taylor to show up at a government building before killing her. They didn't kill her during office hours.

Why is the DA entitled to clock out at five and be free from politics, when the people who are impacted by the DA's decisions don't have that luxury?

If you want the police to be criminal liable for what they did because they disturbed Breonna Taylor's residence at odd hours, why shouldn't the protesters also be criminal liable for disturbing the AG's residence at odd hours?  If you're going to make that equivalence and all.


The AG was shot full of holes by people who broke into his home?

No, these situations are not analogous.
 
2020-07-15 7:35:06 PM  

xcheopis: I believe they have not actually been charged by a DA-type, just that the cops (ACAB) tried to overcharge peaceful protesters.


They weren't wanted there.  They were told to leave.  They refused and were arrested.  Turn this around for a minute. Imagine a bunch of these troublemakers showing up at your place and refusing to leave.  Maybe they threaten you.  Maybe they don't.  You know you wouldn't want a bunch of hostile protesters hanging out at your place.  I'd laugh my head off if you called the cops and they told you they won't get involved.
 
2020-07-15 7:37:31 PM  

Warlordtrooper: When conservatives did this same thing in Michigan you guys called it harassment and threatening

You can protest outside the house but you cannot trespass on private property not hard to understand


You know it's funny, on the same day, dozens of gun-toting rednecks banged on the windows at the governor's mansion, and nothing happened.  Zero arrests.  Those "conservatives" in Michigan also had guns, if I remember correctly.

But what could be the difference here?
 
2020-07-15 7:38:44 PM  
TRUMPed up charges
 
2020-07-15 7:42:48 PM  

phrawgh: Dork Gently: VictoryCabal: The police didn't wait for Breonna Taylor to show up at a government building before killing her. They didn't kill her during office hours.

Why is the DA entitled to clock out at five and be free from politics, when the people who are impacted by the DA's decisions don't have that luxury?

If you want the police to be criminal liable for what they did because they disturbed Breonna Taylor's residence at odd hours, why shouldn't the protesters also be criminal liable for disturbing the AG's residence at odd hours?  If you're going to make that equivalence and all.

Well if all the police did was disturb her residence at an odd hour, what is all the hubbub about?


Those (plainclothes) police served a no-knock warrant on her apartment.  Her boyfriend shot at the police.  They shot back, hitting her eight times and killing her.  The hubbub is fundamentally because there was no remotely good reason for that warrant to have authorized no-knock entry.  In other words, because the police disturbed Taylor's residence at odd hours.
 
2020-07-15 7:46:03 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: The AG was shot full of holes by people who broke into his home?

No, these situations are not analogous.


What do you expect to happen when police are serving a warrant and someone inside starts shooting at them?

A no-knock warrant was indefensible in the situation, but a judge did sign off on it.  You are not going to win the argument that police should sit like ducks when someone starts shooting at them during a warranted search.
 
2020-07-15 7:55:26 PM  

Halal_Bacon: xcheopis: I believe they have not actually been charged by a DA-type, just that the cops (ACAB) tried to overcharge peaceful protesters.

They weren't wanted there.  They were told to leave.  They refused and were arrested.  Turn this around for a minute. Imagine a bunch of these troublemakers showing up at your place and refusing to leave.  Maybe they threaten you.  Maybe they don't.  You know you wouldn't want a bunch of hostile protesters hanging out at your place.  I'd laugh my head off if you called the cops and they told you they won't get involved.


One's an AG, and one's not. Got any other half-baked items on tonight's menu?
 
2020-07-15 7:56:23 PM  

Dork Gently: demaL-demaL-yeH: The AG was shot full of holes by people who broke into his home?

No, these situations are not analogous.

What do you expect to happen when police are serving a warrant and someone inside starts shooting at them?

A no-knock warrant was indefensible in the situation, but a judge did sign off on it.  You are not going to win the argument that police should sit like ducks when someone starts shooting at them during a warranted search.


The police were just following orders.
 
2020-07-15 8:12:46 PM  
If the protesters had stayed on the sidewalk and chanted there would have been no charges. A mob of 87 on your front lawn shouting threats through bullhorns is of course an attempt to intimidate a public official. Cameron has just become the most popular person in the state and probably our next Governor.
 
2020-07-15 8:14:01 PM  
I'd like to add a second "jeepers" to my prior comment, just to clarify how much concern is being concerned over concerning concern in the concerns.
 
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