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(WNYT Albany)   To show they're taking the issue of police brutality seriously, the New York State Sheriffs Association propose making resisting arrest a felony offense   (wnyt.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 1:08:16 PM  
Donald J Trump is resisting arrest right now, each moment he refuses to resign.
 
2020-07-15 1:18:30 PM  
Im sure this has no potential whatsoever to be abused
 
2020-07-15 1:42:12 PM  
How about making body-cam failures a felony as well. Call it, I don't know, destruction of evidence or something.
 
2020-07-15 1:43:50 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Donald J Trump is resisting arrest right now, each moment he refuses to resign.


He's not under arrest.
now now...
not ever..
and here's hoping your delicate little head explodes as that reality sinks into it :)
 
2020-07-15 1:44:14 PM  
This is actually an improvement. Right now resisting arrest is punishable by summary execution without trial.
 
2020-07-15 1:44:39 PM  
I have a better idea; let's make charging someone with resisting arrest and no other crimes a felony.
 
2020-07-15 1:45:34 PM  

stlbluez: Purple_Urkle: Donald J Trump is resisting arrest right now, each moment he refuses to resign.

He's not under arrest.
now now...
not ever..
and here's hoping your delicate little head explodes as that reality sinks into it :)


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2020-07-15 1:45:39 PM  

PirateKing: How about making body-cam failures a felony as well. Call it, I don't know, destruction of evidence or something.


This.

VanillaEnvelope: I have a better idea; let's make charging someone with resisting arrest and no other crimes a felony.


This too.
 
2020-07-15 1:47:04 PM  

stlbluez: Purple_Urkle: Donald J Trump is resisting arrest right now, each moment he refuses to resign.

He's not under arrest.
now now...
not ever..
and here's hoping your delicate little head explodes as that reality sinks into it :)


Sweet - I love when MAGAts self-identify!  Makes it so much easier on the rest of us.
 
2020-07-15 1:48:00 PM  
With "Summary Execution powers" thrown in for good measure.
 
2020-07-15 1:48:29 PM  
Police brutality, who cares.  it's all about nick cannon now derps.
 
2020-07-15 1:48:46 PM  
I wonder who decides the criteria for resisting arrest.

Surely we wouldn't just let the subjective opinion of a person be a reason why you were convicted of a felony, would we?

OK...any more than now.
 
2020-07-15 1:49:11 PM  
Coupled with the popular tactic of shouting "STOP RESISTING" at fully compliant arrestees to cover up their use of excessive force, this sounds like a slam dunk for prosecutors looking to score votes with terrified old white people.
 
2020-07-15 1:50:06 PM  
Dear New York State Sheriff's Association,

No.

Regards,
People tired of your shiat
 
2020-07-15 1:51:22 PM  
Don't worry! This is only for this small moment in time and won't be used for any completely different purposes next year.
 
2020-07-15 1:51:34 PM  
Sorry piggies. You already abuse resisting arrest too much. No way you need more power around that BS.
 
2020-07-15 1:52:00 PM  
I'd go along with that, if "resisting arrest" is redefined.

"Resisting arrest without violence" disappears entirely. There's no farking way that anyone should be charged with a felony because they yelled "No!" when hammer-locked or shoved to the ground.

"Resisting arrest with violence" becomes "resisting arrest," and "violence" is classifed as resulting in injury to an arresting officer. "Oops, you bumped me - now it's resisting arrest!" goes right the fark out the window.

Do that, and we'll talk. Otherwise, fark off.
 
2020-07-15 1:52:16 PM  
Counteroffer: tase yourself in the face until your bowels relieve themselves
 
2020-07-15 1:52:56 PM  

Purple_Urkle: Donald J Trump is resisting arrest right now, each moment he refuses to resign.


fark you, fark Trump.

You'd never would have opened your eyes if he didn't get elected.
 
2020-07-15 1:54:06 PM  
What, do they live in a separate country than the rest of us?Sheriff's office can make up new rules, and the state and county just says, "oh yeah, sure, you do you!"

Reform law enforcement. Fire the white nationalists. Make cops live in the neighborhoods they patrol. Stop acting like these men and women are somehow "above the law." If they eat, shiat, and sleep, they are just as human as the rest of us. A goddamned title shouldn't make you special.

And yes, I'm talking about Trump too.
 
2020-07-15 1:56:14 PM  
Ah, the old Sextus Empiricus trope Circulus in Probando aka Why you running? Why you chasing me? resisting arrest argument.
 
2020-07-15 2:04:44 PM  
I see nothing has changed. The system has to be gotten rid of. It cannot reform itself.
 
2020-07-15 2:05:30 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:09:45 PM  
Asking why you are being arrested to be the number one charge of resisting arrest.
 
2020-07-15 2:09:49 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:09:53 PM  
We'll give you that one if we get "initiating an arrest when no crime has been committed" is punishable by sterilization.
 
2020-07-15 2:11:34 PM  
Well the war on drugs isn't working as well as it used to. Those liberal hippies and minorities aren't going to disenfranchise themselves so they have to do something.
 
2020-07-15 2:18:20 PM  
I watch chows like Cops and Live PD regularly. It seems a lot of people resist arrest. Even the ones I can't tell are resisting are getting a beat down while the cop screams stop resisting. One second they are standing there and the next, the cop throws them to the ground. Then again, I'm no expert like a cop.
 
2020-07-15 2:19:01 PM  

Yellow Beard: I watch chows like Cops and Live PD regularly. It seems a lot of people resist arrest. Even the ones I can't tell are resisting are getting a beat down while the cop screams stop resisting. One second they are standing there and the next, the cop throws them to the ground. Then again, I'm no expert like a cop.


I watch shows like Cops and Live PD too.
 
2020-07-15 2:25:27 PM  
Resisting arrest is to easy to abuse.  A lot of videos I have watched have someone screaming "Stop Resisting" when the arrestee is just super anxious and trying to figure out what is going on.

Being arrested seems like a SUPER stressful situation and it is understandable that people will attempt to pull away from a experience they have never been through before.
 
2020-07-15 2:25:41 PM  
How about we just drop resisting arrest completely? There's already separate charges for assaulting an officer. Every mammal has fight or flight. Half-a-dozen rampaging roid monkeys escalating a tense situation shouldn't get to complain that they had to break a little sweat to put cuffs on somebody. Must be nice for it to be against the law to have a hard day at work.
 
2020-07-15 2:29:26 PM  
Change the rules to require conviction for an actual felony before applying the charge of 'resisting arrest', and we can have a discussion on the subject.

- Arrest someone for spurious reasons and/or without probable cause (as determined by a competent court)? No possibility of charges for 'resisting arrest'.

- Arrest someone for any non-violent misdemeanor? Charging the suspect with 'resisting arrest' is no longer an option.

- Original charges are all dropped except for 'resisting arrest'? The arresting officer(s) get done for false arrest, kidnapping, and assault, because the 'resisting' suspect was justifiably in self-defense mode.

- Arrest someone who is then charged with a felony and subsequently convicted? Only unedited bodycam footage is sufficient evidence to support a charge of 'resisting arrest'.

A better option than all of the above: 'resisting arrest' disappears forever, to be replaced with 'assaulting an officer in the Lawful performance of his/her duties'. This charge must have specific, defined elements of the crime which must be supported by actual evidence and not merely the sturmtruppen shouting "Stop resisting!" during the arrest. The prosecutor must prove the officers were acting as authorized government agents and lawfully performing their duties, and must also prove actual assault by the defendant. Include mandatory release of unedited bodycam video as a prerequisite for even considering the charge, and the arresting officer(s) disciplinary history and records of any complaints from the public are also mandatory release items.

Merely refusing to comply could thereafter no longer be considered a criminal offence, and the burden of proof would return to the State- where it farking belongs. Force the Gestapo wannabes to exonerate themselves in court before they're permitted to lay charges against anyone.

This reflexive measure of piling on 'resisting arrest' charges solely to run up the tab and encourage citizens to plea-bargain has to stop.
 
2020-07-15 2:30:04 PM  
Well, residents of New York State.  This is an opportunity to make a statement regarding the direction you want Law Enforcement taking in the future.  Let it be known that you will vote against any Politician running for election or re-election in the next 3 years that so much as entertains a single one of these proposals.

Let those running for office know that showing any level of support for the Sheriff Associations lobbying efforts will be tantamount to political suicide.  Vote out of office any elective representative that gives even the appearance of compliance with their demands.

If you aren't willing to take these measures, then fark it.  Get ready for more of the same shiat.
 
2020-07-15 2:54:23 PM  
Fire all the cops, hire new ones that have had psychological screenings and are trained to work with people who have serious mental illnesses. Former military members should face additional psychological screening and any officer fired with cause should be barred nationwide from any future employment in law enforcement.

Get rid of all the police unions. They can reform but they will be allowed to have no power other than to negotiate salary and benefits for the member officers. They can have zero say in the laws or policies of police departments.

If the states or federal government don't want to do all of this police reform I'm 100% fine with people continuing to just randomly kill cops sitting in their cars. If the system won't fix the problem as the people demand then the people will exercise their 2nd Amendment rights against a tyrannical government organization. Which is exactly why the 2nd Amendment is there.

I don't think any real work is going to be done on police reform as long as Republicans are in charge of any of our government. This is just reality. We are at a point in time where the people in charge refuse to do anything because it will upset their base of racist garbage pieces of shiat. So the death and violence is just going to continue and escalate. There are about 800,000 members of law enforcement, there are tens of millions of US citizens who want something done. Law enforcement will never win that war, I don't care how many mine resistant vehicles and surplus military body armor they have. But instead of doing something Republicans have decided to do nothing or to double down and support law enforcement. That is where we are in this country. So nobody acted shocked when cops keep getting ambushed and their brains blown out the side of their heads alright because that's exactly how angry the people of this country are about police brutality and our entire justice system targeting people of color and the poor, while protecting white and wealthy criminals.
 
2020-07-15 3:40:09 PM  
Just remember that in the viewpoint of police failure to immediately and unreservedly comply with any direction given is considered "resisting".

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2020-07-15 3:41:46 PM  

v2micca: Well, residents of New York State.  This is an opportunity to make a statement regarding the direction you want Law Enforcement taking in the future.  Let it be known that you will vote against any Politician running for election or re-election in the next 3 years that so much as entertains a single one of these proposals.

Let those running for office know that showing any level of support for the Sheriff Associations lobbying efforts will be tantamount to political suicide.  Vote out of office any elective representative that gives even the appearance of compliance with their demands.

If you aren't willing to take these measures, then fark it.  Get ready for more of the same shiat.


Unfortunately privileged white people benefit from the same old shiat...
 
2020-07-15 5:05:13 PM  
Only if falsfying an  arrest report and false arrest are made the same level of a felony,
With mandatory maximum penalties.
 
2020-07-15 7:30:25 PM  

Wenchmaster: A better option than all of the above: 'resisting arrest' disappears forever, to be replaced with 'assaulting an officer in the Lawful performance of his/her duties'.


Why should law officers get a special law with different protections? They already have more recourse than the average person to deal with it.  What about assaulting the garbage man in his duties? The mail man? Pizza delivery person? Uber driver?

We already have "assault" and/or "battery".

OK, you want to make it about interrupting a public servant in the execution of his/her/its duties, then leave LE out of it and make it "any public servant" or "any government employee in the performance of their duties".  I'm sure census takers, etc. might enjoy a little more protection, as could meter-readers, etc.
 
2020-07-15 8:45:35 PM  
The full list of asks is:
The New York police and sheriffs are proposing this legislation:
All of the proposals are listed below:

Resisting arrest: Making this a class E felony that cannot be reduced by plea bargaining, and make it an offense for which a judge could require the posting of bail.
(Who gets to decide if you resisted?)

Failure to retreat: Make a class D felony for any person to approach or remain 25 feet of an officer engaged in their duties when that person has been ordered to "halt" or "retreat."
(Cant approach them to decent filming range)

Assault on a police officer: increase the level of seriousness by one degree for the current crimes pertaining to assault upon a police officer.

Aggravated harassment of a police or peace officer: Make it a class D felony for a person to cause, or attempt to cause, any officer engaged in their duties to be struck by any substance or object.
(Throw water during a protest? Felony. Bleed on them? Felony. Is this like the three laws? do i have to jump into the way of things about to hit them? Does "Allow through inaction count?)

Hate crime against a police officer: Make any crime committed against law enforcement because they are law enforcement, a hate crime.
(Cant resist arrest if the person arresting isnt a cop, nice chain there, havent seen a combo like since magic the gathering)

Aggravated offering a false accusation against a police officer: Make falsely accusing a police officer of wrongdoing a class D felony.
(Its false, cuz you cant film them within decent range now)

Criminal doxing of an officer: Make it a class D felony to dox an officer because of their occupation or to dox anyone affiliated with an officer.
(Anyone affliated? Friends? third cousins? holy shiat)

Stalking an officer: Make following or surveilling an officer, for no legitimate purpose, a class E felony.
(So no approaching them with a camera, but also no fleeing them as above? now this is shiat tier chaining, lol)

Disability and death benefit: provide a $500,000 benefit for officers who are seriously disabled or die from injuries sustained in the line of duty.
(Im fine with this actually)

Police Memorial Day: Make May 15 a state holiday to honor the officers who have died in the line of duty in New York and require the governor to appear in person to read aloud the names of those who died the previous year
(That's farking pathetic. "AND I WANT A SPECIAL HOLIDAY!")
 
2020-07-16 11:52:51 AM  
Absent useful context, this statistic is useless.  Is this subset supposed to be representative of the entire underage population?  Is it representative of a specific subset of the Florida population.  How common was COVID-19 testing during the sample period.  Because there is a huge difference in the scenario where they were testing anyone walking through the door, to they were only testing individuals exhibiting sufficient symptoms to place them in a high probability rate for infection.  Or it could be anywhere in between.  But, without this crucial information regarding the testing methodology, that 31.1% is a useless click bate number designed to shock and awe readers.
 
2020-07-16 11:53:38 AM  

v2micca: Absent useful context, this statistic is useless.  Is this subset supposed to be representative of the entire underage population?  Is it representative of a specific subset of the Florida population.  How common was COVID-19 testing during the sample period.  Because there is a huge difference in the scenario where they were testing anyone walking through the door, to they were only testing individuals exhibiting sufficient symptoms to place them in a high probability rate for infection.  Or it could be anywhere in between.  But, without this crucial information regarding the testing methodology, that 31.1% is a useless click bate number designed to shock and awe readers.


Oops, sorry, wrong thread.  My bad.
 
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