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2020-07-15 12:28:54 PM  
Wow.  Fark Vistaprint.
 
2020-07-15 12:33:54 PM  
I will definitely avoid Vistaprint like the farking plague in the future.
 
2020-07-15 12:48:52 PM  
This one?

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2020-07-15 12:49:06 PM  
Have to admit, a few years ago I got someone else's order from Vistaprint. Took forever to get them to get it replaced.
 
2020-07-15 2:01:27 PM  
Yeah, this is on the news here when it happened. 3 weeks ago.
 
2020-07-15 2:16:28 PM  
You know what's sad. I expected it to be worse.
 
2020-07-15 2:18:49 PM  
So Vistaprint either made a mistake or had an a-hole employee who should be fired. Given that I've used them at least a dozen times without any issues, I'm guessing it's the latter.
 
2020-07-15 2:19:37 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:21:23 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:24:16 PM  

darkhorse23: Yeah, this is on the news here when it happened. 3 weeks ago.


The Post is on the case! For your ad clicks AFTER the fact.
 
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2020-07-15 2:25:09 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:25:22 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:25:29 PM  
Shait happens, get over yourselves.
 
2020-07-15 2:25:53 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:26:20 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:27:18 PM  

CanisNoir: .


Weird. Haven't you been somewhere else?
 
2020-07-15 2:28:17 PM  
I got two other peoples' EBay orders in addition to my own one time, and the company was cool about it, telling me I could keep the stuff and not send it back. Now with this story I come to realize they were sending me a secret hate message, not just making a mistake.
 
2020-07-15 2:30:26 PM  
In printing, like everything else, you get what you pay for.

CSB:  The shop that I work for got an order for some really nice programs for a very conservative Jewish organization.  They sent the art over and someone involved with their organization had at one time won an Oscar.  Their graphic artist must have done a really quick search for "Oscars Logo" and didn't look too closely at it and put it above said person's bio.  The logo was actually a phallic symbol and didn't caught until people started receiving them from the Post Office.
 
2020-07-15 2:30:32 PM  

iamskibibitz: So Vistaprint either made a mistake or had an a-hole employee who should be fired. Given that I've used them at least a dozen times without any issues, I'm guessing it's the latter.


Or even both happened.

But yeah, so many things in companies are automated these days, sometimes things just mess up.  Or it was an honest mistake from an employee.  Or it was a callous racist mistake.  Just because something happened doesn't mean anything in and of itself.  People throwing themselves into a hissy fit anytime something like this happens is unreal.

Is it disheartening it happened?  Sure.  Does that immediately mean there was something nefarious going on?  Not necessarily.  Hopefully an investigation happens and the result of that is how the reaction should be gauged.

If they determined something glitched, you fix it.  If an honest mistake, put up some minor safeguards so it doesn't happen again.  If the person is a prick, fire 'em.  Simple!
 
2020-07-15 2:30:44 PM  
I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.
 
2020-07-15 2:31:21 PM  

TheAlgebraist: [Fark user image image 850x944]


I got that t-shirt. I also have the knockoff "Four wolf moon" t-shirt I got online.
 
2020-07-15 2:31:28 PM  
I used them twice and they farked up my orders both times. I don't think it's so much that they are racist as it is that they are too cheap to hire actual humans (and/or pay them enough to care) to do quality control.
 
2020-07-15 2:31:41 PM  
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2020-07-15 2:31:45 PM  
I'm sure she's suffered great emotional distress.  The kind the only a large settlement can cure.
 
2020-07-15 2:34:36 PM  

xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.


They just happened to have an "All lives Matter" order queued up right after this order?  With all the business they do?
 
2020-07-15 2:37:07 PM  
Quite a dramatic attention whore. It MUST mean Vistaprint hates black people.
 
2020-07-15 2:39:07 PM  
This is the most useful thread in days.
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Gone girl.
 
2020-07-15 2:39:31 PM  

jjorsett: I got two other peoples' EBay orders in addition to my own one time, and the company was cool about it, telling me I could keep the stuff and not send it back. Now with this story I come to realize they were sending me a secret hate message, not just making a mistake.


That is such a stretch that when it snaps, it is liable to cut you in half.  C'mon, man, be better than that
 
2020-07-15 2:39:36 PM  
Bureau of Land Management posters?

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2020-07-15 2:40:34 PM  

xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.


NOTE:  I'm not saying "That didn't happen", or "It wasn't malicious".  Just that some Canuckistani jerk would have had to really have a hard-on for screwing with BLM for it to have been a purposeful thing.  I imagine there's someone who is complaining that they didn't get their full order of "All Lives Matter" junk though.  It's not like the Canadian Jerk would have every size and product type ready to go just to mess with orders they see come across.

CSB:  In the very very early days, it was surprising to see how many orders were escort services of one type or other.  And epic business card fights.
 
2020-07-15 2:42:29 PM  
Another "woke" white gal orders BLM posters and is "outraged" about it also coming with
ALM posters?  Because ONLY black lives matter I guess?
If that is the case, shouldn't every ethnic group, in the United States, take their own lives,
and live the United States to all the black lives?
 
2020-07-15 2:42:59 PM  

xrayspx: xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.

NOTE:  I'm not saying "That didn't happen", or "It wasn't malicious".  Just that some Canuckistani jerk would have had to really have a hard-on for screwing with BLM for it to have been a purposeful thing.  I imagine there's someone who is complaining that they didn't get their full order of "All Lives Matter" junk though.  It's not like the Canadian Jerk would have every size and product type ready to go just to mess with orders they see come across.

CSB:  In the very very early days, it was surprising to see how many orders were escort services of one type or other.  And epic business card fights.


I am curious, is Vistaprint all digital or do they have presses?
 
2020-07-15 2:44:01 PM  

stevenboof: xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.

They just happened to have an "All lives Matter" order queued up right after this order?  With all the business they do?


I mean every day we see several new posts about Karens losing their minds and screaming racist nonsense at POC in public so given that there's a lot of those all lives matter fools out there? Yes. It seems pretty plausible in today's society.
 
2020-07-15 2:45:10 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Wow.  Fark Vistaprint.


XPprint is more reliable.
 
2020-07-15 2:45:36 PM  
If Vistaprint is being honest then this : "This is a process that does not include direct employee contact," is the problem, no human checking orders to make sure they are correct before they go out the door.
 
2020-07-15 2:49:37 PM  

p51d007: Another "woke" white gal orders BLM posters and is "outraged" about it also coming with
ALM posters?  Because ONLY black lives matter I guess?
If that is the case, shouldn't every ethnic group, in the United States, take their own lives,
and live the United States to all the black lives?


What?

Seriously, what?
 
2020-07-15 2:50:58 PM  
I just love how companies never want to take responsibility for anything this is why I don't like companies that I don't like CEOs cuz they're actually scumbags the whole lot of them
 
2020-07-15 2:51:32 PM  
Let the poster wars begin!

We need more signs, posters, and slogans!

/that will solve the problem
 
2020-07-15 2:54:10 PM  

Lambskincoat: I will definitely avoid Vistaprint like the farking plague in the future.


One thousand dollars says you've never ordered anything from them in the past. Bums living inside mom's basement tend not to have such needs.
 
2020-07-15 2:54:36 PM  
She was filming herself unboxing the Black Lives Matter prints designed by Noel, an art director, when she discovered the All Lives Matter copies hiding behind them.
"I was furious," Noel told the outlet. "I just couldn't believe it. I didn't want to believe it, especially with everything going on.

And just like that, I knew it was all a setup
 
2020-07-15 2:56:18 PM  

devilskware: Quite a dramatic attention whore. It MUST mean Vistaprint hates black people.


FTFA:  I would like my dollars - especially like my black lady dollars

/totally taken out of context
//for sport
///water sports
 
2020-07-15 2:57:58 PM  

stevenboof: xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.

They just happened to have an "All lives Matter" order queued up right after this order?  With all the business they do?


Yeah, it's almost too unlikely to be a coincidence, but not like, /that/ unlikely given the volume of stuff printed.  The thing that gives me pause is that didn't they say it was the same product and size?  Like I could see some jerkass slipping a couple standard business card sized things in with an order of posters, but for them to have the same product on-hand and ready to sabotage seems unlikely given how much stuff they sell.

All that said, another Ex-VPRT guy just recounted to me that there was a case where some line-worker was overzealous in his beliefs and would slip stuff in on some packages.  It certainly isn't "Corporate Policy" to hate BLM though, that's just nonsense.

I no longer have any contacts there, but it'd be a neat thing to know.  Everything there is tracked and I'd be shocked if the company doesn't 100% know one way or the other what happened.  I was witness to several cases of "extremely unlikely crap happening" though.
 
2020-07-15 2:58:14 PM  

smunns: She was filming herself unboxing the Black Lives Matter prints designed by Noel, an art director, when she discovered the All Lives Matter copies hiding behind them.
"I was furious," Noel told the outlet. "I just couldn't believe it. I didn't want to believe it, especially with everything going on.

And just like that, I knew it was all a setup


You mean except for the part where Vistaprint admitted that it happened?
 
2020-07-15 3:02:35 PM  
You think that is bad, I was trying to infiltrate a Klan rally, and my cover was nearly blown because someone shipped me a bunch of BLM posters.  Luckily I have a Trump Pence sticker on my pickup truck, so I was able to convince them I was still one of their own.
 
2020-07-15 3:03:14 PM  
There are a whole lot of companies that profit from selling weapons to both sides of a conflict.  When you buy your t-shirts/bumper stickers/ribbons/hats various promotion items, chances are they're selling the opponents gear as well.

If you're looking for a "good company" you'd best be prepared to do a little extra research.
 
2020-07-15 3:03:19 PM  
I was on the cusp of giving Vistaprint the benefit of the doubt untill I read how they sent anti-lgbtq flyers to a gay couple who ordered flyers for their wedding.
Such an odd computer glitch that sends out conservative diatribe to people who order the exact opposite thing.
 
2020-07-15 3:04:27 PM  

xrayspx: stevenboof: xrayspx: I'm not saying "Use VistaPrint" by any means.  I don't.  But while I haven't worked there in 13 years, I'm extremely familiar with VistaPrint's process, and honestly their explanation is entirely plausible.

The whole process is automated to the point that there really aren't chances to maliciously intervene in a single arbitrary order in this way.  I mean, we had times where we're receiving 30,000 orders per hour, and I'm sure that's MUCH higher now.  Neither on the web-application side or on the Production and Fulfillment side could anyone really try and just screw with a given order set.  But mistakes happened pretty predictably and were baked into costs.

Depending on quantities ordered and the way they batch dozens or hundreds of orders together, a human could have been involved in cutting the orders, and could easily have stacked multiple orders back-to-back.

They just happened to have an "All lives Matter" order queued up right after this order?  With all the business they do?

Yeah, it's almost too unlikely to be a coincidence, but not like, /that/ unlikely given the volume of stuff printed.  The thing that gives me pause is that didn't they say it was the same product and size? Like I could see some jerkass slipping a couple standard business card sized things in with an order of posters, but for them to have the same product on-hand and ready to sabotage seems unlikely given how much stuff they sell.

All that said, another Ex-VPRT guy just recounted to me that there was a case where some line-worker was overzealous in his beliefs and would slip stuff in on some packages.  It certainly isn't "Corporate Policy" to hate BLM though, that's just nonsense.

I no longer have any contacts there, but it'd be a neat thing to know.  Everything there is tracked and I'd be shocked if the company doesn't 100% know one way or the other what happened.  I was witness to several cases of "extremely unlikely crap happening" though.


I 100% agree with that. I used to work at a shop that did pizza menus for dirt cheap.  They'd just gang a bunch of different fliers on one set of plates and print them all at the same time.  It was a web, so set-up was a biatch.  They got away with being so cheap because they didn't have to use nearly as many plates or press set-up as if any of the pizza places tried to do it themselves at a different company.  As far as I know, there weren't any complaints from customers getting the wrong place's menus.  However, it wasn't fully automated, so that makes a big difference.
 
2020-07-15 3:05:15 PM  

winedrinkingman: You think that is bad, I was trying to infiltrate a Klan rally, and my cover was nearly blown because someone shipped me a bunch of BLM posters.  Luckily I have a Trump Pence sticker on my pickup truck, so I was able to convince them I was still one of their own.


username does NOT checkout.
 
2020-07-15 3:07:09 PM  
Did she shoot the posters?
 
2020-07-15 3:10:41 PM  
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