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(The Hill)   You know what would make 2020 even better? Israel dragging us into a war with Iran   (thehill.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 2:07:27 PM  
That headline is a bit of a dog whistle.
 
2020-07-15 2:19:25 PM  
Right.

*cab in Tehran gets a flat* The Jews did this!
 
2020-07-15 5:56:58 PM  
Trump is afraid to air strike an empty air strip in the desert.  He's gutless.
 
2020-07-15 6:26:32 PM  
It has been a regular feature of the Trump years, the US getting concerned about Israel's problems. They have the best weapons around; they can take care of it.
 
2020-07-15 6:52:00 PM  

bostonguy: That headline is a bit of a dog whistle.


ANTI-SEMITISM!!
 
2020-07-15 6:55:16 PM  
That one was not on my bingo card
 
2020-07-15 6:55:27 PM  
US leadership is weak. countries are going to make moves before a potential Biden admin and a return to American power projection
 
2020-07-15 6:55:55 PM  
If unlawfully assassinating one of their top generals didn't start a war, i'm not sure how Israel is going to do it.
 
2020-07-15 6:56:37 PM  
One disaster at a time here. World War III is going to have to wait its turn.

After the pandemic we got the robot uprising (all machines become sentient due to the comet), and then the supervolcanoes. So we can squeeze it in sometime between the zombie apocalypse and the alien invasion.

Actually, if we just talk to the aliens and convince them now's not a good time, they can come back later.
 
2020-07-15 6:58:52 PM  

kindms: US leadership is weak. countries are going to make moves before a potential Biden admin and a return to American power projection


Came here to say this.

Leaving satisfied.
 
2020-07-15 6:59:59 PM  
I've got enough things to worry about without including concerns over Bibi attempting to depopulate the Middle East through an ill advised and unprovoked war.

Find someone whose care card isn't full
and maybe they can do something about it.
 
2020-07-15 7:00:16 PM  
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/ash​k​enazi-on-natanz-explosion-our-actions-​in-iran-better-left-unsaid-633923
Israel takes action to stop the Iranian nuclear threat, Foreign Minister Gabi Ashkenazi said Sunday in response to a question about a series of explosions that rocked sites associated with Iran's missile and nuclear program.
"We have a long-term policy over the course of many administrations not to allow Iran to have nuclear abilities," he said. "This [Iranian] regime with those abilities is an existential threat to Israel, and Israel cannot allow it to establish itself on our northern border."
Therefore, "we take actions that are better left unsaid," he added.


Of course Israel is doing everything it can to fark with Iran.
 
2020-07-15 7:03:02 PM  

Magruda: If unlawfully assassinating one of their top generals didn't start a war, i'm not sure how Israel is going to do it.


If one US soldier had been killed when Iran launched like 17 missiles at US bases in Iraq, shiat would already have been hitting the fan.

Good thing Iran basically warned them before launching the missiles by calling the Iraqi government beforehand. US soldiers were in bunkers... and the iranian missiles were aimed to make sure to not hit where US soldiers usually are. 110 US soldiers were wounded, which of course was denied by Trump, but none were killed.
 
2020-07-15 7:03:29 PM  
Iranic.
 
2020-07-15 7:04:21 PM  

Murkanen: I've got enough things to worry about without including concerns over Bibi attempting to depopulate the Middle East through an ill advised and unprovoked war.

Find someone whose care card isn't full
and maybe they can do something about it.


So speaking of human-sized pieces of schytt other than Trump...

Hasn't Bibi officially been charged with high crimes now? How has he not been removed from office?
 
2020-07-15 7:04:24 PM  

Magruda: If unlawfully assassinating one of their top generals didn't start a war, i'm not sure how Israel is going to do it.


The US can wipe its dong on Iran's curtains, and Iran'll still think twice before seriously starting WW ay-yi-yi.

Iran's been waging war on Israel for 40 years (...do you even Hezbollah, bro?), why should they stop now? Especially if they can pre-blame Israel for "inciting a war" when Israel does what THEY'VE always done (rocket strike wherever they farking feel like).

// this is called "international relations", you pussy libshiat anti-Semite globalist cuckfarts
 
2020-07-15 7:06:23 PM  

give me doughnuts: Right.

*cab in Tehran gets a flat* The Jews did this!


Considering Israel has a history of launching air strikes against these types of targets in multiple countries and has previously launched attacks against Iranian nuclear programs, it isn't a great leap of logic that when their nuclear facilities start exploding to think that Israel might be behind it.
 
2020-07-15 7:08:10 PM  

lolmao500: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/ash​k​enazi-on-natanz-explosion-our-actions-​in-iran-better-left-unsaid-633923
Israel takes action to stop the Iranian nuclear threat, Foreign Minister Gabi Ashkenazi said Sunday in response to a question about a series of explosions that rocked sites associated with Iran's missile and nuclear program.
"We have a long-term policy over the course of many administrations not to allow Iran to have nuclear abilities," he said. "This [Iranian] regime with those abilities is an existential threat to Israel, and Israel cannot allow it to establish itself on our northern border."
Therefore, "we take actions that are better left unsaid," he added.

Of course Israel is doing everything it can to fark with Iran.


You really do believe everything you see or hear, don't you?
 
2020-07-15 7:10:23 PM  
Trump should send Jared Kushner to go help. He alone can do it.
 
2020-07-15 7:10:30 PM  

dywed88: give me doughnuts: Right.

*cab in Tehran gets a flat* The Jews did this!

Considering Israel has a history of launching air strikes against these types of targets in multiple countries and has previously launched attacks against Iranian nuclear programs, it isn't a great leap of logic that when their nuclear facilities start exploding to think that Israel might be behind it.


You're right. It's a great leap, but not one that has anything to do with logic.
 
2020-07-15 7:16:07 PM  
Are Iran and Israel members of NATO?
Why the fark should the US get involved?
 
2020-07-15 7:17:37 PM  
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2020-07-15 7:18:54 PM  
If only there was some way to work against their nuclear program other than war... oh well, more blood for the blood god.
 
2020-07-15 7:20:40 PM  

emtwo: lolmao500: https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/ashk​enazi-on-natanz-explosion-our-actions-​in-iran-better-left-unsaid-633923
Israel takes action to stop the Iranian nuclear threat, Foreign Minister Gabi Ashkenazi said Sunday in response to a question about a series of explosions that rocked sites associated with Iran's missile and nuclear program.
"We have a long-term policy over the course of many administrations not to allow Iran to have nuclear abilities," he said. "This [Iranian] regime with those abilities is an existential threat to Israel, and Israel cannot allow it to establish itself on our northern border."
Therefore, "we take actions that are better left unsaid," he added.

Of course Israel is doing everything it can to fark with Iran.

You really do believe everything you see or hear, don't you?


Right cause the mossad and shin bet are not known to be top of the line spies and do nothing against their enemies.

Lets all forget that Israel put a goddamn double agent as defense minister in Syria.
 
2020-07-15 7:21:17 PM  
The Hill tried to give my phone cybercooties.
 
2020-07-15 7:22:04 PM  

dywed88: give me doughnuts: Right.

*cab in Tehran gets a flat* The Jews did this!

Considering Israel has a history of launching air strikes against these types of targets in multiple countries and has previously launched attacks against Iranian nuclear programs, it isn't a great leap of logic that when their nuclear facilities start exploding to think that Israel might be behind it.


The two likeliest culprits are Israel and the U.S.  Last ime we illegally assassinated an Iranian, our dipshiat president bragged about it.  I am not hearing any bragging at the moment.
 
2020-07-15 7:22:07 PM  
Israel bombed the reactor in Iraq in 1981. That turned out ok
 
2020-07-15 7:22:46 PM  

emtwo: dywed88: give me doughnuts: Right.

*cab in Tehran gets a flat* The Jews did this!

Considering Israel has a history of launching air strikes against these types of targets in multiple countries and has previously launched attacks against Iranian nuclear programs, it isn't a great leap of logic that when their nuclear facilities start exploding to think that Israel might be behind it.

You're right. It's a great leap, but not one that has anything to do with logic.


What isn't logical about it?

Netanyahu and Israel have a history of using violence against Iranian and other nuclear programs in the Middle East. That is a simple fact.

It looks like someone just blew up parts of an Iranian nuclear program.

There are basically three candidates who would have a ability and motivation to do this: Israel, Saudi, and the US.

If the US did this, Trump would be crowing about it so we can discount them.

I have serious questions if the Sauds could actually pull it off, nor do they have such a history.

Israel has the history of such actions and the clear ability to pull it off.
 
2020-07-15 7:25:27 PM  

fragMasterFlash: The Hill tried to give my phone cybercooties.


THE HILL IS CYBERCOOTIES! THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING IS FALLING APART!
 
2020-07-15 7:25:44 PM  
Eh, the odds between this shiat being Israeli-sourced versus local agitators / genuine mundane incompetence is only about 50/50.  The weird reluctance of the state to immediately blame Israel before any evidence was collected at all, and the fact that they've actually waited a bit to cast this stone this time, actually makes me want to throw in that there's a local agitator group they're aware of and that they were waiting to see if they'd take credit before letting the usual propaganda dogs off the leash.

I mean, yeah, blaming Israel is still pretty credible too just because, well... they do have a history of pulling those kinds of CIA shenanigans and they are kind of run by the bizarro world Nazi Party right now so the fact that it'd be an incredibly stupid thing to pull at the moment doesn't make it less likely.  But... sending up an ammo or fuel dump or lighting up the auxiliary fuel on a retrofitted civilian ship isn't necessarily James Bond level shiat, it's 'guy with a set of official-looking coveralls and a book of matches' level shiat when Cornavirus has eaten all the security.
 
2020-07-15 7:28:41 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Magruda: If unlawfully assassinating one of their top generals didn't start a war, i'm not sure how Israel is going to do it.

The US can wipe its dong on Iran's curtains, and Iran'll still think twice before seriously starting WW ay-yi-yi.

Iran's been waging war on Israel for 40 years (...do you even Hezbollah, bro?), why should they stop now? Especially if they can pre-blame Israel for "inciting a war" when Israel does what THEY'VE always done (rocket strike wherever they farking feel like).

// this is called "international relations", you pussy libshiat anti-Semite globalist cuckfarts


But who's starting the war in this situation? We're talking about a country that actually had a dictator installed by the UK and US to extract as much of Iran's mineral wealth as they could.

No, chanting Death To America and/or Death To Israel/Jewry in general is not cool.

But the recent history of the middle east is all about how colonialism and realpolitik led to the situation we are currently discussing.

And there's also the element of the fact that the UK and US ally against Iran with KSA partly because of religious reasons. Shi'ites against Sunnis, despite KSA being quantitatively worse than Iran in many areas.

/Those wascally Wahhabists.
 
2020-07-15 7:31:58 PM  
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace, you
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
 
2020-07-15 7:33:17 PM  

lolmao500: Lets all forget that Israel put a goddamn double agent as defense minister in Syria.


Cohen was a good old-fashioned single-agent, and never became a minister of any sort.
 
2020-07-15 7:37:12 PM  
Erik Prince promised Israel this.
 
2020-07-15 7:38:44 PM  
Oh please, by all means.  I can think of few things America, left or right, has less tolerance for now than another war.
 
2020-07-15 8:00:54 PM  
If Bibi and company were half-clever, they'd do whatever they wanted, then start a quiet rumor campaign that it was all the US.

Trump wouldn't deny it, for fear of appearing weak. And a lot of the world would at least believe it was possibly us.
 
2020-07-15 8:11:50 PM  
What principles tie us to Israel again? Like I literally do not understand the policy. Do they have something we need?
 
2020-07-15 8:13:17 PM  

lincoln65: What principles tie us to Israel again? Like I literally do not understand the policy. Do they have something we need?


The end-timers need them there for Jesus to come back.
 
2020-07-15 8:37:15 PM  

Ishkur: One disaster at a time here. World War III is going to have to wait its turn.

After the pandemic we got the robot uprising (all machines become sentient due to the comet), and then the supervolcanoes. So we can squeeze it in sometime between the zombie apocalypse and the alien invasion.

Actually, if we just talk to the aliens and convince them now's not a good time, they can come back later.

and

But what about the irradiated kaiju rising out of the sea, when do they come in?
 
2020-07-15 8:51:02 PM  

resident dystopian: But what about the irradiated kaiju rising out of the sea, when do they come in?


I would say sometime next year but we're not even sure there is a next year after the Lizard People abolish the calendar.
 
2020-07-15 9:54:38 PM  

iron de havilland: Dr Dreidel: Magruda: If unlawfully assassinating one of their top generals didn't start a war, i'm not sure how Israel is going to do it.

The US can wipe its dong on Iran's curtains, and Iran'll still think twice before seriously starting WW ay-yi-yi.

Iran's been waging war on Israel for 40 years (...do you even Hezbollah, bro?), why should they stop now? Especially if they can pre-blame Israel for "inciting a war" when Israel does what THEY'VE always done (rocket strike wherever they farking feel like).

// this is called "international relations", you pussy libshiat anti-Semite globalist cuckfarts

But who's starting the war in this situation? We're talking about a country that actually had a dictator installed by the UK and US to extract as much of Iran's mineral wealth as they could.

No, chanting Death To America and/or Death To Israel/Jewry in general is not cool.

But the recent history of the middle east is all about how colonialism and realpolitik led to the situation we are currently discussing.

And there's also the element of the fact that the UK and US ally against Iran with KSA partly because of religious reasons. Shi'ites against Sunnis, despite KSA being quantitatively worse than Iran in many areas.

/Those wascally Wahhabists.


I have information suggesting it was always burning since the world's been turning.
 
2020-07-15 11:23:50 PM  

lincoln65: What principles tie us to Israel again? Like I literally do not understand the policy. Do they have something we need?


Good war business.

/war machinery is our last remaining major export industry
 
2020-07-16 12:39:56 AM  
2020 is awful but I get this sense that 2021 is driving nails into a ballbat and cooing "Soon."
 
2020-07-16 4:27:49 AM  

erik-k: Hasn't Bibi officially been charged with high crimes now? How has he not been removed from office?


He is on trial for corruption (breach of trust, accepting bribes, and fraud). Any other prime minister would have resigned upon getting indicted. But his supporters do not care. Like Trump, Bibi could shoot someone on the street and his supporters would claim that the resulting trial was merely a political move to get rid of him.
 
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