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(Politico)   One of the "job-killing regulations" the Trump Administration nixed in February was a requirement that nursing home workers get 75 hours of training before being certified, replacing it with an 8-hour online course. How'd that work out?   (politico.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 11:33:07 AM  
Just don't let them cut hair.
 
2020-07-15 11:34:15 AM  
Hey, I was certified to operate a toaster oven, so let me have a stab at these nuclear reactor controls after watching a YouTube video, because what's the worst thing that could possibly happen?

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2020-07-15 11:37:35 AM  
Jesus.  I give a 40-hour class followed by a test just to let someone go into a research lab to work on a PC.  And that's not counting the client courses they're required to take.
 
2020-07-15 12:07:08 PM  
smh
There is way too much to learn in 8 hours
 
2020-07-15 12:11:07 PM  
You could work in a nursing home with less than 2 weeks of training?

That is quite shocking.

/"for profit" nursing homes are parasites
 
2020-07-15 12:26:25 PM  
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Just 1 hour on an iPad, worked for Boeing, right?
 
2020-07-15 12:54:01 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: You could work in a nursing home with less than 2 weeks of training?

That is quite shocking.

/"for profit" nursing homes are parasites


You could say that about most ''for profit'' industries in the US.
 
2020-07-15 12:54:03 PM  
Remember that old yarn about the Holiday Inn being better and cheaper than a nursing home?
 
2020-07-15 12:55:06 PM  
Are we not entertained? Is this not why Trump was elected? Chaos and blatant ineptitude rule the land, as requested!
 
2020-07-15 12:59:49 PM  
Less training needed means less qualifications required means more applicants means paying less to employees and more into pocket. fark the customers/patients/families of course.
 
2020-07-15 1:00:25 PM  
Wow that's nuts.

My 9-5 is running a health program where Healthcare Peer Workers are trained to obtain a certification that requires 90-hours of training (60 core, 30 specialized - HIV, HCV, PrEP or Harm Reduction) plus a 500-hour practicum/internship at a health services provider....then they have to pass an exam and pass trhe Review Board vote before they recieve their certification.
 
2020-07-15 1:02:07 PM  
I got my degree from Trump University. it cost $125,000 but all I had to do was read a book called The Art of Nursing by Ivanka Trump. she's a scientist, you know.
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2020-07-15 1:03:17 PM  
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2020-07-15 1:05:06 PM  

Sophont: Remember that old yarn about the Holiday Inn being better and cheaper than a nursing home?


Lots of old folks spend 50 weeks a year on cruise ships.
 
2020-07-15 1:05:49 PM  
I've become thoroughly convinced that Republicans are evil idiots.

I haven't stopped facepalming since GW declared investing in green energy technology would be bad for the economy.

This is in the same ballpark.
 
2020-07-15 1:06:21 PM  
To be fair, these are not nurses, they are CNAs. I can assure, working in healthcare staffing, that the CNAs being turned loose in the wild today have, at least, a face. Half of my CNA applicants cannot fill out application paperwork, at all. Electronic application? Forget about it. I have seen some crazy stuff in the backgrounds of photos of ID documents sent to us. Marijuana seeds, the inside of a jail and a toddler tethered to a bedpost.  I have decided on suicide before a rest home, you should too.
 
2020-07-15 1:07:16 PM  
Does anyone know where the thread about all COVID reporting being directed to the WH instead of the CDC went?

Did I just imagine it?
 
2020-07-15 1:07:19 PM  
This problem is easy to solve... tax cuts for the nursing homes.
 
2020-07-15 1:07:58 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I got my degree from Trump University. it cost $125,000 but all I had to do was read a book called The Art of Nursing by Ivanka Trump. she's a scientist, you know.
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High five!  I just finished Trump culinary school, acing the final exam on taco bowls.  After 9 weeks of intensive studies, we finally understood the secret was canned beans.

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2020-07-15 1:08:41 PM  
Gutting regulations that require training, what could go wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_​d​isaster
 
2020-07-15 1:10:17 PM  
raise questions about whether some of the waivers will ultimately serve nursing home operators more than their residents, critics say.

Of course it is.  The operators have money.  Residents don't.  And the goal is to make more room for more residents at a lower cost so the operators get more money.  And the workers don't get raises.
 
2020-07-15 1:10:58 PM  
Wow. Vocational education sure is a joke in the US.
 
2020-07-15 1:12:00 PM  
So? No one died in the US from Covid-19. That is after the Trump administration redoes all the numbers.
 
2020-07-15 1:15:43 PM  
The question isn't if something the Trump Administration failed... Unless its something that promoted corruption or racism, the question is have they even done something that succeeded ?
 
2020-07-15 1:16:25 PM  
So online learning was just fine, until it wasn't? Fark Betsy DeVos.
 
2020-07-15 1:16:43 PM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Gutting regulations that require training, what could go wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_d​isaster


Sure, it was a disaster because a lot of Bophals died. But if they had not gotten those Death Star plans, billions of lives would had been at risk.
 
2020-07-15 1:18:03 PM  
To be fair, I feel like we all have gotten extra training in managing and caring for senile elderly people with dementia and aggression. Just watch the news for 8 hours, that'll learn you good enough.
 
2020-07-15 1:18:49 PM  
Continuing the preference of "people killing regulations" over "job killing regulations".
 
2020-07-15 1:20:11 PM  

lincoln65: To be fair, I feel like we all have gotten extra training in managing and caring for senile elderly people with dementia and aggression.


Give them a phone and set them up on Twitter?
 
2020-07-15 1:21:36 PM  

JayCab: Less training needed means less qualifications required means more applicants means paying less to employees and more into pocket. fark the customers/patients/families of course.


With nursing home sin particular, I suspect it is more about the ability to cheaply replace the sacks of meat that you run into the ground and burn out in a few months. Many of those places are absolutely disgustingly brutal in their staff.
 
2020-07-15 1:23:46 PM  

LarryDan43: So? No one died in the US from Covid-19. That is after the Trump administration redoes all the numbers.


Exactly, nobody died from COVID, I don't know why people are complaining. Now that couple hundred thousand killed by ANTIFA and BL-Qaeda terrorists are a true horror.
 
2020-07-15 1:24:49 PM  
That's why they're called essential employees, not valuable employees.
Can't invest too much in them, or it might reduces short term profit for shareholders.
 
2020-07-15 1:25:13 PM  
At least rural moms can get a job in healthcare so they can leave their layabout right wing husband easier. <-- also known as the ballad of the geezer flipper - a red state America love story
 
2020-07-15 1:28:32 PM  

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Just 1 hour on an iPad, worked for Boeing, right?


Well that's for their specific plane, I expect next week for them to drop those hundreds of hours of flight time you need to even get a pilot license be shortened to an 8 hour class time. And you can shorten that by showing you've played ANY Ace Combat for over 40 hours.
 
2020-07-15 1:31:53 PM  
I worked in a terrible nursing home as a cook, and yes, those places are horrible.  Just watching my dining room, I'd see staff feeding residents while not wearing gloves, putting bare hands all over food, dropping spoons and forks only to pick them up again for use.... It was terrible.

The owner of the home couldn't keep a steady credit line with a food supplier, so there was more than a few times where a unmarked pick up truck would stop at our dock to unload food. Good chunks of it expired. I would argue against using it, and be told "You're a cook, you should know best by dates are recommendations!"

Sad part, these types of places know exactly when the " window" opens for a survey and certification from state, and everything will be perfect those days.
 
2020-07-15 1:36:34 PM  
Lemme guess - an RN supervises the facility from an office, an LPN is the charge nurse overseeing drug protocols under the RN's signature - and a dozen WaHoos with 8 hours of online "training" masquerading as healthcare providers.

/not safe for gammy
 
2020-07-15 1:45:35 PM  
He just did CHOPPER TALK and said we have never seen job numbers like this.  I mean, he's right but not in a good way.
 
2020-07-15 1:47:09 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: You could work in a nursing home with less than 2 weeks of training?

That is quite shocking.

/"for profit" nursing homes are parasites


You can work in a nursing home as an RA without any initial training.  My daughter picked up an RA job a month and a half ago. Sure, they tell you that you have training you must complete.  I have yet to see it completed.

/or much else completed... Yay for passive/aggressive friction with the eldest in a house that I don't really leave from besides to go out for supplies or take my other two kids to their jobs.  At least she's pulling over 40 hours per week.
 
2020-07-15 1:59:57 PM  

RasIanI: Lemme guess - an RN supervises the facility from an office, an LPN is the charge nurse overseeing drug protocols under the RN's signature - and a dozen WaHoos with 8 hours of online "training" masquerading as healthcare providers.

/not safe for gammy


A dozen, you must be looking at a well-staffed home!

For the home I was at, it was an RN who worked 9-5 in the admin office. LPN sat in their office near the patient wings. One QNA (A nursing assistant allowed to hand out meds) wandering the wings, and 3-4 CNAs watching TikTok and ordering pizza at the wing desks.

Seeing anyone above CNA in the halls meant someone was dying, and the CYA paperwork needed backdated signatures.
 
2020-07-15 2:27:07 PM  
2-3 years would be more appropriate. And it would create lots of jobs for teachers.
 
2020-07-15 2:30:05 PM  

IsThatYourFinalAnswer: RasIanI: Lemme guess - an RN supervises the facility from an office, an LPN is the charge nurse overseeing drug protocols under the RN's signature - and a dozen WaHoos with 8 hours of online "training" masquerading as healthcare providers.

/not safe for gammy

A dozen, you must be looking at a well-staffed home!

For the home I was at, it was an RN who worked 9-5 in the admin office. LPN sat in their office near the patient wings. One QNA (A nursing assistant allowed to hand out meds) wandering the wings, and 3-4 CNAs watching TikTok and ordering pizza at the wing desks.

Seeing anyone above CNA in the halls meant someone was dying, and the CYA paperwork needed backdated signatures.


And yet I'm seeing 20+ ads each day urging me to check to see if I've qualified for the Green Card so I can be a U.S. citizen.

Ha ha no...
 
2020-07-15 6:09:58 PM  

Sophont: Remember that old yarn about the Holiday Inn being better and cheaper than a nursing home?


It is. If you either are able to hire a visiting nurse or carer, or you have a county Council on Aging, like we do here, that if you are poor will give you care and house cleaning for free, regardless of where you are living (unless homeless entirely, then there is a different agency to help you). This is seriously an option for elderly people who cannot maintain their home anymore but don't want to be stuck in a nursing home, and aren't rich enough to live in a gated seniors community.
 
2020-07-15 9:14:53 PM  

RasIanI: Lemme guess - an RN supervises the facility from an office, an LPN is the charge nurse overseeing drug protocols under the RN's signature - and a dozen WaHoos with 8 hours of online "training" masquerading as healthcare providers.

/not safe for gammy


You got it.
 
2020-07-16 5:20:01 PM  

Marbleisheavy: Hey Nurse!: I got my degree from Trump University. it cost $125,000 but all I had to do was read a book called The Art of Nursing by Ivanka Trump. she's a scientist, you know.
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High five!  I just finished Trump culinary school, acing the final exam on taco bowls.  After 9 weeks of intensive studies, we finally understood the secret was canned beans.

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You know better than to leave a pic like that out for me to swipe.  Here is what I did.   (NSFW)
 
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