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(Deadline)   Far, far too late, the media seems to finally be learning. CNN, MSNBC cut away from Trump's "Rose Garden Ramble" as soon as it became clear he was trying to deliver a campaign speech instead of announce a new program   (deadline.com) divider line
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2020-07-15 10:34:37 AM  
He's just primed and ready. He sees that many people in a room, he just goes into campaign mode. I mean, he never knows if he's going to have a crowd that big again.
 
2020-07-15 11:47:17 AM  
I think all legitimate media should broadcast every trump* speech after the fact, edited for facts.

Just pause the thing, or mute individual-1*, and have a commentator or graphic detailing the lie and spelling out reality.

Maybe we could have trump*-free news on weekends and Wednesdays as a start.

And then, no trump*, all of the time, next year.
 
2020-07-15 11:48:10 AM  
That's pretty much what Trump does every time he's in front of a camera.  Even if it's a brief appearance before he boards AF1 or a chopper or something, he'll always find something to big himself up about and tear his opponents down for -- even ones he's already defeated, because he loves nothing more than banging on his tin pot.  Trump is never not a toddler constantly going back to the thing he likes doing because repetitiveness is soothing.
 
2020-07-15 12:34:09 PM  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: I think all legitimate media should broadcast every trump* speech after the fact, edited for facts.

Just pause the thing, or mute individual-1*, and have a commentator or graphic detailing the lie and spelling out reality.

Maybe we could have trump*-free news on weekends and Wednesdays as a start.

And then, no trump*, all of the time, next year.


It's custom for ex-presidents to lay low, but dont expect that from Donnie next year. The press will indulge all of his complaints, if not quite as breathlessly as they currently do.
 
2020-07-15 1:43:19 PM  
Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.

"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.


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2020-07-15 2:38:46 PM  
I can't speak for CBS but ABC and NBC have been doing this for years. They monitor the event and only break in if it's newsworthy, which is almost never.
 
2020-07-15 2:48:05 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: I can't speak for CBS but ABC and NBC have been doing this for years. They monitor the event and only break in if it's newsworthy, which is almost never.


CBS waits until Let's Make a Deal or The Price is Right is on before cutting in.
 
2020-07-15 2:49:28 PM  
Has he ever introduced a new program? Serious question.
 
2020-07-15 2:49:39 PM  
It would be nice if they had started doing that about three years ago.
 
2020-07-15 2:51:16 PM  
Too late now! The MSM gladly spread the disgusting Trump/GOP propaganda for years and now a segment of Americans is brainwashed. These people are gonna continue to spread COVID-19.

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2020-07-15 2:52:24 PM  
Rambling and blathering is pretty much muscle memory for Dump at this point.

He'll keep telling lies for days after he finally does die, like a rattlesnake striking after its head had been severed.
 
2020-07-15 2:52:56 PM  

YabbaDabbaDouchebag: I think all legitimate media should broadcast every trump* speech after the fact, edited for facts.

Just pause the thing, or mute individual-1*, and have a commentator or graphic detailing the lie and spelling out reality.

Maybe we could have trump*-free news on weekends and Wednesdays as a start.

And then, no trump*, all of the time, next year.


It should be done like the old VH1 "pop up videos" where they would have pop ups of random facts during the video, but instead, put it on a 3-4 minute delay (need the graphic dept. time to fact check and edit) and pop up the fact checks as he lies in real time.
 
2020-07-15 2:53:02 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Has he ever introduced a new program? Serious question.


On March 11th he announced he was cutting off all travel, trade and cargo from Europe.
 
2020-07-15 2:54:22 PM  

damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.

"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

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Because intelligence prevailed the last time, right? Also, context is important. Napoleon, if he said it at all, wasn't talking about a campaign where the first person to the mic sets the truth but was talking about a literal blunder like walking into a trap.

For the vast majority of situations, that is some of the dumbest advice you could give.
 
2020-07-15 2:57:22 PM  

damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.


"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

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Where have I seen that sentiment before?

"Clinton sat back and let the media focus primarily on Trump, because she thought that doing so would emphasize that, on the Democratic side, the front-runner's eventual nomination was a near-certainty. This made the Republican contest the focal point of American political discourse month after month - a lack of media coverage that hurt Democratic turnout in caucuses and, more generally, made the Democratic Party seem less energetic than the Republicans.

[...]

The problem is that Clinton had so routinely used favorable media coverage as a crutch that it has weakened - if not stopped in its tracks - her ability to improve as a candidate or raise the profile of the Democratic 'brand' more generally. Nor has it prepared her to understand how and why so many Democrats are angry at the media right now, and with a fervor usually reserved for Republican ire about 'left-wing bias.'

When the media turns on Clinton in the fall - should she be the nominee - it will be entirely predictable, as the media benefits when a general-election race is as close as possible. And Clinton simply won't be prepared for it. Nor will the Democrats, who will have done insufficient work setting the terms of the national political discourse for the media, rather than the other way around."

Dictatorial_Flair: It would be nice if they had started doing that about three five years ago.


FTFY.

That shiat should've ended the second Trump said "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best...".
 
2020-07-15 2:57:27 PM  
If he asks where is Hunter Biden, how does anybody not reply "we don't know and nobody cares, but where is Jared? Where's Ivanka?"
 
2020-07-15 3:02:55 PM  

SMB2811: damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.

"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

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Because intelligence prevailed the last time, right? Also, context is important. Napoleon, if he said it at all, wasn't talking about a campaign where the first person to the mic sets the truth but was talking about a literal blunder like walking into a trap.

For the vast majority of situations, that is some of the dumbest advice you could give.


It's actually a Sun Tsu quote from Art Of War.
 
2020-07-15 3:03:39 PM  
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2020-07-15 3:04:41 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Has he ever introduced a new program? Serious question.


Bang your daughter at work day
 
2020-07-15 3:05:12 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.


"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

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Where have I seen that sentiment before?


It's four years later, though, and the Braying Jackass has turned the U.S. into a wasteland while insisting that everything's fine. He's not getting the fawning coverage that he got in 2016, and attacks on Biden's past are not sticking to him (so far) the way Clinton's stuck to her.

What I worry about -- and what I suspect is also behind your comment -- is that the press will do a 180 and spend the last eight weeks of the campaign fellating the White House occupant while running Biden up the proverbial flagpole for not eating enough blueberries or some such bullshiat.
 
2020-07-15 3:05:19 PM  

SMB2811: damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.

"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

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Because intelligence prevailed the last time, right? Also, context is important. Napoleon, if he said it at all, wasn't talking about a campaign where the first person to the mic sets the truth but was talking about a literal blunder like walking into a trap.

For the vast majority of situations, that is some of the dumbest advice you could give.


You're take is bad and you should feel bad. A mistake is a mistake. When trump got out ahead of everyone to spread his narrative in 2016 it wasn't a mistake for him, it was effective. Letting trump go out and ramble incoherently in 2020 IS a mistake for Trump and bidens team have been carefully watching the polling. If trump was getting his message out effectively and controlling the narrative they'd have to step up in response, that's true, but right now all the swing state polling has shown joe gaining around 5 points by being calm and reserved while trump has lost 5 points by appearing unreliable, unprepared, divisive, and incendiary during a crisis.

So dont assume the enemy is making a mistake just because they're making a move you wouldn't, but still don't prevent them from making a mistake when you are sure they are in fact erring.
 
2020-07-15 3:06:08 PM  

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I can graphing!
 
2020-07-15 3:07:15 PM  

snowshovel: [Fark user image image 320x156]


It took me longer than I'm prepared to admit to recognize that snow shovel was satirical but once I did I started to enjoy his posts. This one is pretty good. My favorite was when discussing Tammy duckworths qualifications for vp he said "by now both Melania and Ivanka have at least as much experience running the country as duckworth does." Poe's law indeed.
 
2020-07-15 3:08:21 PM  

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2020-07-15 3:09:43 PM  

mathamagical: snowshovel: [Fark user image image 320x156]

It took me longer than I'm prepared to admit to recognize that snow shovel was satirical but once I did I started to enjoy his posts. This one is pretty good. My favorite was when discussing Tammy duckworths qualifications for vp he said "by now both Melania and Ivanka have at least as much experience running the country as duckworth does." Poe's law indeed.


Shovel is a treasure.

/not shovel
 
2020-07-15 3:23:00 PM  
Gee, if only they had done this three and a half years ago, maybe we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.

Farking hours of digital footage where they gave Trump hundreds of millions of dollars of free publicity. Cameras focused on empty podiums, key slides next to pictures of Hillary at campaign rallies. "Equal coverage," yeah, sure, alright.

"Trump may not be good for America, but he's good for CBS!" What a typical thing for a sociopath like Sumner Redstone to say! Because it's okay to spit on the folks, who make up the country, that made you so rich and powerful Sumner! It feels like a refreshing rain sent down by our sinfully rich and powerful overlords. Hey CBS, thanks for leaving the barn door open!  Can you help us corral all the animals back into the pen now?

You shouldn't help an arsonist burn down the houses in every neighborhood, but your own. That just leaves you with a smoking, charred neighborhood, low property values and lots of homeless. That leaves then with little to no money, or incentive to rebuild. Pretty soon, your house starts to look like a pretty nice place to want to bomb with Molotov cocktails.

Fear blacks, fear Muslims, fear the poor, but whatever you do, don't try to help make their lives easier! Make them suffer for every penny they make, because by the end of the day, it'll end up back in your hands anyway. But right now, the poor can't even pretend to care any more. It's hard enough being poor, without the threat of a miserable death because the richest country in the world can't provide widespread testing, much less afford for its non essential citizens to safely quarantine at home.

The middle class is large, but can't carry all the weight. And now the middle class is even smaller. Those that thought they were "safe" are feeling the pinch.

What do you mean my small business doesn't qualify for a loan?  Do I really have to wait six weeks for my unemployment benefits to start? Wow, the food that comes from churches and charities is usually withered vegetables, one pound of rice, and a bunch of stale cakes, cookies, and unsold cheese pizzas from Dominos?

I pay taxes! Where is my piece of the social safety net? I've worked hard all my life, and this is the crap I get?

Yes. Yes, it is. It has always been this way. So now you know what reducing taxes, defunding social programs because you voted to reduce taxes, and electing corrupt Republicans does.This is the damage they cause. This is the damage you voted (or farking didn't bother to vote at all) for.

Don't like it? Learn a new skill. Go scrub toilets.

I started "retraining" three years ago. I still got a job, because it turns out that scrubbing toilets for some businesses is essential. What have y'all been up to?

Do like Ivanka says, and "learn a new skill!" Oh, and don't forget to buy her products!
 
2020-07-15 3:26:48 PM  

dickfreckle: YabbaDabbaDouchebag: I think all legitimate media should broadcast every trump* speech after the fact, edited for facts.

Just pause the thing, or mute individual-1*, and have a commentator or graphic detailing the lie and spelling out reality.

Maybe we could have trump*-free news on weekends and Wednesdays as a start.

And then, no trump*, all of the time, next year.

It's custom for ex-presidents to lay low, but dont expect that from Donnie next year. The press will indulge all of his complaints, if not quite as breathlessly as they currently do.


Good thing prisons have limited visiting hours.
 
2020-07-15 3:32:55 PM  
Every time this white house calls a press conference the press corps needs to respond with a public statement asking if the president will be present and taking unscripted questions from news orgs other than OAN and FOX. If the answer is no to either question the corps should publicly decline to cover it. OAN and FOX can cover his reflection speeches or the press sneks outrageous lies but the corps should stop debasing themselves by stopping to this level. The simple truth is none of the snek conferences are newsworthy, she just spouts insane lies. The trump ones are only newsworthy when he faces unscripted questions and even then only because he is too slow on his feet to come up with lies that even adress the question and voters should see that.

Further the corps should show up to each press conference at exactly the delay the president showed up to the previous one. If POTUS calls one at 4 and shows up at 530 then make sure the corps doesn't show up to the next one until 90 minutes after start time.

The trump circus is not news. There is no real harm in missing it. The corps needs to put their foot down and say they won't be insulted by a child no matter what office he infests.
 
2020-07-15 3:34:11 PM  

RI_Red: Bith Set Me Up: damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.


"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

[Fark user image 673x316]

Where have I seen that sentiment before?

It's four years later, though, and the Braying Jackass has turned the U.S. into a wasteland while insisting that everything's fine. He's not getting the fawning coverage that he got in 2016, and attacks on Biden's past are not sticking to him (so far) the way Clinton's stuck to her.

What I worry about -- and what I suspect is also behind your comment -- is that the press will do a 180 and spend the last eight weeks of the campaign fellating the White House occupant while running Biden up the proverbial flagpole for not eating enough blueberries or some such bullshiat.


Why would you be worried about *that*?

Did they attack the last Democratic candidate like a pack of rabid terriers for something completely insane like running her hand over a rail while on some stairs or something, while ignoring literally every actual crime by her opponent up to and including flat treason?
 
2020-07-15 3:38:08 PM  
Doesn't matter how he does in the polls or how much he shoots himself in the dick, he's got those 168.000 Chinese-made voting machines under Ivanka's patent signature. The right will install them and every vote will be registered as for Trump and every Republican on the ballet.
 
2020-07-15 3:51:54 PM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Has he ever introduced a new program? Serious question.


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Whoops, I'm sorry, I thought you said pogrom.

/ Yes, it wasn't a serious response.
// I have to keep the dark humor going, or I start screaming/crying.
/// Was I screaming again? The wife just said she heard me screaming again.
 
2020-07-15 4:17:47 PM  

erik-k: Did they attack the last Democratic candidate like a pack of rabid terriers for something completely insane like running her hand over a rail while on some stairs or something, while ignoring literally every actual crime by her opponent up to and including flat treason?


I also remember a lot of email talk.
 
2020-07-15 4:22:52 PM  
I think it's Randy Rainbow that refers to his Press Briefings as his Stand up Specials.

Trump figures that the higher the ratings, the bigger his success.

Jesus, what a world.
 
2020-07-15 4:51:28 PM  
Woah, woah, woah, Subby! Be careful with that shiat. That's close to an admission that the press  and the billions in free air time they gave Trump had a role in his election. We can't have that. This is Fark. Two Russian Facebook ads supporting Jill Stein and $150,000 in other random IRA political content that mostly came after the election is what broke our democracy.
 
2020-07-15 4:53:49 PM  
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2020-07-15 4:59:50 PM  
Oh no. According to some geniuses here on Fark, "ignoring" him is what got him elected or something something.

It's math. Or science. Something. LOL
 
2020-07-15 5:05:09 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Doesn't matter how he does in the polls or how much he shoots himself in the dick, he's got those 168.000 Chinese-made voting machines under Ivanka's patent signature. The right will install them and every vote will be registered as for Trump and every Republican on the ballet.


Damn. I SO hope you're wrong.
 
2020-07-15 5:20:42 PM  

Spice Must Flow: [Fark user image 850x417]


Oh my god I hate you.

Also you owe me a new monitor, since this one has a fist-shaped hole in it now. And some PTSD treatment.
 
2020-07-15 7:32:27 PM  

kling_klang_bed: SMB2811: damageddude: Even though some reporters noted the political nature of the speech from the Rose Garden, Biden campaign did not raise an issue with it, apparently convinced that its rambling nature wouldn't help Trump.

"Please! We'll help foot the bill for the taxpayers," tweeted Andrew Bates, Biden's rapid-response director.

[Fark user image 673x316]

Because intelligence prevailed the last time, right? Also, context is important. Napoleon, if he said it at all, wasn't talking about a campaign where the first person to the mic sets the truth but was talking about a literal blunder like walking into a trap.

For the vast majority of situations, that is some of the dumbest advice you could give.

It's actually a Sun Tsu quote from Art Of War.


Oops, sorry, you got that wrong. Napoleon did in fact say never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. I bet you can find something close from Sun Tsu.
 
2020-07-15 7:45:04 PM  

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2020-07-15 7:47:56 PM  

SyphalisPhlaschly: snowshovel: [Fark user image image 320x156]

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bamboo? husks don't shoot back.
 
2020-07-16 2:24:09 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Oh no. According to some geniuses here on Fark, "ignoring" him is what got him elected or something something.

It's math. Or science. Something. LOL


A lot of those geniuses seem to have account creation dates in the past 2 to 3 years, often quite a bit sooner than that.

Funny that.
 
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