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(Slate)   Don't blame Facebook, Twitter, and TikTok for the internet being such a cesspool these days. Blame America Online. For everything   (slate.com) divider line
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2020-07-14 7:54:26 AM  
It's all been downhill since The September That Never Ended
 
2020-07-14 8:03:13 AM  

HugeMistake: It's all been downhill since The September That Never Ended


Usenet had it's own dark corners of shame.
 
2020-07-14 8:26:16 AM  
Okay, I can go along with that.
 
2020-07-14 8:54:01 AM  
How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?
 
2020-07-14 8:58:51 AM  
Welcome.

You've got mail.

/files done
 
2020-07-14 9:10:15 AM  
I would not even answer email from an AOL address.
 
2020-07-14 9:11:49 AM  

Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.


Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?
 
2020-07-14 9:13:12 AM  
Never had an AOL account.  I remember getting their floppies when I was in college (91/92?) and already had free Internet access.  I'd have had to dial long distance plus pay for Internet?  Forget that.

/Did eventually get an AIM account
 
2020-07-14 9:14:29 AM  
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2020-07-14 9:16:14 AM  
I have one "friend" that still pays for AOL... says he likes the features... we've been telling him for 20 years that email is free...everything is free... my head hurts now
 
2020-07-14 9:16:19 AM  
Hudson said she offered to serve up to 100 free meals at the event hosted by activist group Reopen Florida, which opposes "forced mask wearing, testing, contact tracing, and vaccines."

And people still wonder how Florida earned its reputation as the ground zero of stupidity.
 
2020-07-14 9:16:43 AM  
{s duckjob
 
2020-07-14 9:18:08 AM  

Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?


Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.
 
2020-07-14 9:18:12 AM  
And I stupidly commented on the wrong thread. *hangs head*
 
2020-07-14 9:20:52 AM  

HugeMistake: It's all been downhill since The September That Never Ended


see my profile screed.
 
2020-07-14 9:23:01 AM  
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2020-07-14 9:26:09 AM  
CSB from early commercial internet. 1999, get to college, first real internet connection on a homemade computer from my dad. I found a place offering to pay you for serving up ads while you are surfing, quickly learned how to script my way around their rules to keep active all night for 9 hrs of activity a day. Then I signed up for 3 more companies. Hand to god, I got actual checks from them, they were legit. I got probably $500 over 6 months before that well went dry.

I was quickly begging dad to upgrade the 1GB hard drive and was THRILLED with my 10GB replacement. I could hold more than 100 WAV files now! And then came Napster and Limewire and hard lessons in malware.
 
2020-07-14 9:26:26 AM  
"These heated debates over Section 230 can be traced to one moment in history: Ken Zeran's Nov. 12, 1997 loss in a lawsuit against America Online."

Ken Zeran

Ken Zeran

Zen Keran

Zen Keran

Keran

Keran

Karen

Boom.  Headshot.
 
2020-07-14 9:27:04 AM  

A Cave Geek: How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?


We're talking about the Internet in the nineties.

It's all the Otherkin's fault.
 
2020-07-14 9:31:47 AM  
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2020-07-14 9:34:43 AM  
I blame me. I blame all of us.  We were given the gift of having the Library of Alexandria in our pockets and what did we do with it? Watched YouTube videos of monkeys raping frogs and trolled each other until there was no longer a signal to noise ratio, just noise.

/Back to YouTube
 
2020-07-14 9:36:04 AM  

Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.


You're not the only one, back in the day some hacking websites checked if visitors were using AOL and blocked access if they were.
 
2020-07-14 9:38:08 AM  

mrs john amber: A Cave Geek: How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?

We're talking about the Internet in the nineties.

It's all the Otherkin's fault.


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2020-07-14 9:39:02 AM  
I never had an AOL account
But I had a WebTV account from about August 1998 until about July 2002 surprised the company actually existed into the teens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSN_TV
 
2020-07-14 9:40:45 AM  
CSB when I was in college AOL mailbombed our dorm with large stacks of AOL CDs.

My RA decided to wall-paper his dorm room with them. reflective side out.

It looked kinda cool.
 
2020-07-14 9:45:04 AM  

Sexy Jesus: I blame me. I blame all of us.  We were given the gift of having the Library of Alexandria in our pockets and what did we do with it? Watched YouTube videos of monkeys raping frogs and trolled each other until there was no longer a signal to noise ratio, just noise.

/Back to YouTube


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Maybe your Fark handle should be Lewis Cipher
 
2020-07-14 9:48:29 AM  
The whole reason for all the toxic crap on the internet is that the companies that provide the services know they could never be profitable if they had to police everything everyone using their platforms posts on a 24/7 basis.  Filters cost money and the way Facebook, etc. are constructed, effective filters would cost more than the services are worth to the advertisers actually paying for them.
 
2020-07-14 9:48:39 AM  
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2020-07-14 9:50:04 AM  

akya: CSB when I was in college AOL mailbombed our dorm with large stacks of AOL CDs.

My RA decided to wall-paper his dorm room with them. reflective side out.

It looked kinda cool.


I over wrote their floppy and used it on my first Word Processor circa 1993-94 which was basically an electronic typewriter with a monochrome 5 inch monitor
But I could play Tetris on it.
 
2020-07-14 9:55:10 AM  
I've seen this claim before, AOL introduced the common people to the internet and the elites who were already here hated that service for it. If it wasn't AOL, it would have been another service.
 
2020-07-14 9:58:48 AM  
a/s/l
 
2020-07-14 9:59:31 AM  
The day AOL got usenet:  "I'm going to make this folder into..."

I also remember the green card spam, tho I don't remember if it was called "spam" yet.
 
2020-07-14 10:03:01 AM  

Jake Havechek: Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?

Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.


Is it that purple monkey?
 
2020-07-14 10:06:04 AM  

Too-Tall: The whole reason for all the toxic crap on the internet is that the companies that provide the services know they could never be profitable if they had to police everything everyone using their platforms posts on a 24/7 basis.  Filters cost money and the way Facebook, etc. are constructed, effective filters would cost more than the services are worth to the advertisers actually paying for them.


What? So how does Fark or other sites manage?
 
2020-07-14 10:06:05 AM  
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2020-07-14 10:07:12 AM  

apathy2673: a/s/l


I miss that.
Why is it that mainstream is actually ugly people?
 
2020-07-14 10:07:25 AM  

waxbeans: Jake Havechek: Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?

Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.

Is it that purple monkey?


Yup.

The dishwasher was sold separately.
 
2020-07-14 10:09:12 AM  

Boo_Guy: waxbeans: Jake Havechek: Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?

Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.

Is it that purple monkey?

Yup.

The dishwasher was sold separately.


I like it. But didn't get what was the point. I'd install it. And get over it and uninstall it.     A few different times actually.
 
2020-07-14 10:12:18 AM  
Wait? So stubby things sites should be responsible for users posted comments/content?
Why? How? WTF?
 
2020-07-14 10:13:32 AM  

A Cave Geek: How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?


We can, and should, also blame the platforms that don't bother to moderate against that kind of moronics.
 
2020-07-14 10:13:36 AM  
What about the dial-in bbs services?
 
2020-07-14 10:16:39 AM  

OldJames: What about the dial-in bbs services?


AOL was a particularly expensive, low quality one.
 
2020-07-14 10:17:34 AM  

Baloo Uriza: A Cave Geek: How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?

We can, and should, also blame the platforms that don't bother to moderate against that kind of moronics.


I don't think you will get away with blaming Fark on Fark.
 
2020-07-14 10:18:42 AM  

waxbeans: Boo_Guy: waxbeans: Jake Havechek: Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?

Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.

Is it that purple monkey?

Yup.

The dishwasher was sold separately.

I like it. But didn't get what was the point. I'd install it. And get over it and uninstall it.     A few different times actually.


It was adware / spyware. The point was for it to make money off it's users by showing ads and collecting information.
 
2020-07-14 10:21:09 AM  
We never had any problems like this with Prodigy!!!!
 
2020-07-14 10:21:40 AM  

waxbeans: Too-Tall: The whole reason for all the toxic crap on the internet is that the companies that provide the services know they could never be profitable if they had to police everything everyone using their platforms posts on a 24/7 basis.  Filters cost money and the way Facebook, etc. are constructed, effective filters would cost more than the services are worth to the advertisers actually paying for them.

What? So how does Fark or other sites manage?


You pay out of pocket for TotalFark and BareFark and have to ask?
 
2020-07-14 10:23:35 AM  

Baloo Uriza: A Cave Geek: How about we blame the PEOPLE that post stupid, uneducated, flat-earth, QAnon, 4/8chan, racist, misogynistic, anti-gay, self-absorbed, bigoted verbal diarrhea after eating grammatically-rotted word salads on these platforms?

We can, and should, also blame the platforms that don't bother to moderate against that kind of moronics.


What? Why? Just keep scrolling. Visit some other page. Stop mind sentence. Any number of things. WTF?
 
2020-07-14 10:24:06 AM  

Too-Tall: The whole reason for all the toxic crap on the internet is that the companies that provide the services know they could never be profitable if they had to police everything everyone using their platforms posts on a 24/7 basis.  Filters cost money and the way Facebook, etc. are constructed, effective filters would cost more than the services are worth to the advertisers actually paying for them.


I always thought one thing Facebook did well, particularly in the beginning was strongly limiting what you could do on the platform.  It was all text.  Meme's weren't a thing.  Most of the data you provided was not open ended, and everybody's page looked, basically, the same.

Compare Facebook at it's beginning to Myspace, which was basically a free for all
"put animated gifs as your background, and 3-5 auto-play mp3s, we don't care!"

The fact that you couldn't put anything you wanted on it was part of its original appeal.

Now Facebook is basically a freakish combination of twitter, instagram, snapchat, and youtube.  I'd argue it's now worse then Myspace was at its nadir.
 
2020-07-14 10:24:18 AM  

OldJames: What about the dial-in bbs services?


Ask Jeeves.
 
2020-07-14 10:24:22 AM  

Boo_Guy: waxbeans: Boo_Guy: waxbeans: Jake Havechek: Mister Buttons: Jake Havechek: I would not even answer email from an AOL address.

Not even if it came from SexyGurl6969?

Hold on a minute, I'm downloading my Bonzi Buddy.

Is it that purple monkey?

Yup.

The dishwasher was sold separately.

I like it. But didn't get what was the point. I'd install it. And get over it and uninstall it.     A few different times actually.

It was adware / spyware. The point was for it to make money off it's users by showing ads and collecting information.


Ooooooooooooooooo.

Weak.
 
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