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(The Daily Beast)   So wait. You're telling me that some MRA lawyer guy who did stuff like sue battered women's shelters to force them to accept men got himself shot dead over the weekend? Imagine that. No one could have possibly seen that coming   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2020-07-14 1:43:21 AM  
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
 
2020-07-14 2:00:34 AM  
"The motive for the shooting is unknown at this time."

Yup. It's a mystery for the ages.
 
2020-07-14 2:04:11 AM  
Did the shooter wear a wife-beater?
 
2020-07-14 2:33:51 AM  
Normally I agree with John Donne, but I don't think this death diminishes me.
 
2020-07-14 3:01:16 AM  
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2020-07-14 3:38:14 AM  
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2020-07-14 4:43:02 AM  
And nothing of value was lost
 
2020-07-14 5:06:50 AM  
90% of shooting deaths are women shooting men, so it was probably a woman that did it.
 
2020-07-14 8:06:36 AM  
They really need to come up with another word besides "activist" to describe this particular sort of asshole.
 
2020-07-14 8:18:04 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They really need to come up with another word besides "activist" to describe this particular sort of asshole.


Asstivist?
 
2020-07-14 8:29:21 AM  
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2020-07-14 8:31:36 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They really need to come up with another word besides "activist" to describe this particular sort of asshole.


Prolapsivist?
 
2020-07-14 8:36:21 AM  
The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.
 
2020-07-14 8:38:13 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.


Much of what happens in this world is abhorrently predicated on bad faith.

It's not an excuse to murder someone and never will be.  Ever.
 
2020-07-14 8:39:50 AM  
A shiatbag shot a lawyer after he got handed a decision he didn't like in court?  That's rare.
 
2020-07-14 8:40:31 AM  

dittybopper: Much of what happens in this world is abhorrently predicated on bad faith.


Like a good chunk of your feigned outrage?
 
2020-07-14 8:40:49 AM  

Harlee: Play stupid games win stupid prizes.


Wow, you're a horrible person.
 
2020-07-14 8:40:52 AM  

dittybopper: backhand.slap.of.reason: The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.

Much of what happens in this world is abhorrently predicated on bad faith.

It's not an excuse to murder someone and never will be.  Ever.


I ain't saying it's right, just that I understand.
 
2020-07-14 8:41:21 AM  

Sin'sHero: Did the shooter wear a wife-beater?


How does one wear a man?
 
2020-07-14 8:43:31 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They really need to come up with another word besides "activist" to describe this particular sort of asshole.


Troll, now, does in fact mean a$$hole. Thanks to it's over use by sensitive little cry babies.
 
2020-07-14 8:44:00 AM  
Hey now, Dittybopper has a good point. We should not be celebrating the death of this piece of human excrement, we should be electing him to gov't.
 
2020-07-14 8:44:14 AM  
Um... has it been ruled out as suicide?
 
2020-07-14 8:45:08 AM  
So sad. As a white male, I have so few public advocates who are willing to stand up to all the injustices I face in this oppressive society, particularly in these trying times. How am I to tell the women I encounter to smile, if I can't see whether they do or not behind their masks? Who will stand up for me when I can call a young girl and get disgusted looks in return?  My god, it's a rough life - you people just don't know the burden men carry in this society.
 
2020-07-14 8:46:32 AM  
I wonder if he saw this 1993 made for TV movie.
 
2020-07-14 8:46:34 AM  

Pocket Ninja: They really need to come up with another word besides "activist" to describe this particular sort of asshole.


"Provocateur"
 
2020-07-14 8:47:07 AM  

waxbeans: Sin'sHero: Did the shooter wear a wife-beater?

How does one wear a man?


Many women say "wrapped around your little finger"
 
2020-07-14 8:48:54 AM  

eKonk: So sad. As a white male, I have so few public advocates who are willing to stand up to all the injustices I face in this oppressive society, particularly in these trying times. How am I to tell the women I encounter to smile, if I can't see whether they do or not behind their masks? Who will stand up for me when I can call a young girl and get disgusted looks in return?  My god, it's a rough life - you people just don't know the burden men carry in this society.


I know you're snarking, and I appreciate a good whopper.

But domestic violence resources available to men are practically non-existent. If you (hypothetical you, you specifically) hit a women, you're a run of the mill asshole. If she hits you, you're a pussy. There's no magic safety tech that prevents a woman from grabbing a hammer or a kettle full of hot water. She may not win in a straight up fistfight, but the average house has a TON of force escalation devices.
 
2020-07-14 8:50:24 AM  
Whatever this fellow has done in life, his murder was pointless. It won't change anything. The Men's rights movement will continue doing what it does. A small polyp was excised but the tumor continues to fester.

This guy was a small guppy in a big ocean full of much more dangerous monsters that will have to be dealt with eventually.

(Frankly, I'm a little surprised Roger Stone is still alive.)
 
2020-07-14 8:50:33 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.


i tried to get an Order for Protection in PA... the female desk officer at the police station laughed at me.  i had to get a lawyer to get it.  it was a massive ordeal. 

as tempting as crazy is, dip it not even once my friends.
 
2020-07-14 8:51:39 AM  
The irony of the
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2020-07-14 8:52:35 AM  

UNC_Samurai: The irony of the
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Anal beads?
 
2020-07-14 8:52:38 AM  
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2020-07-14 8:54:21 AM  

gar1013: The average commenter in this thread has revealed themselves to be below contempt.


Then exit and boost the numbers.
 
2020-07-14 8:54:38 AM  
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier:

I wish there WAS a discussion about the stifling social expectations put on men and how we as a society could change them. I

the looks i would get when i went on day trips solo with our infant son.  like i was either stealing someone's kid or i was some kind of pervert. 

stop being judgemental twats everyone.
 
2020-07-14 8:54:47 AM  

GrinzGrimly: Felgraf: dittybopper: Much of what happens in this world is abhorrently predicated on bad faith.

Like a good chunk of your feigned outrage?

When Trump tried to keep men out of women's shelters, you all called him a bigot.

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-ou​t/trump-administration-moves-repeal-tr​ansgender-protections-homeless-shelter​s-n1232849


That URL completely betrays you, dumb-dumb.
 
2020-07-14 8:55:46 AM  
Nice, fellas.  He deserved it.

Now how do you feel about High on Meth and Fentanyl, Maskless while COVID +, Committing Crimes and Fighting With Police?

    
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This is why nobody sane wants to live in your world.
 
2020-07-14 8:56:27 AM  
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2020-07-14 8:57:02 AM  

gar1013: Zasteva: gar1013: Dittybopper is right, the real problem with America is people who are glad when garbage human beings are murdered.


"Garbage human beings"?

You sound like a klansman or Nazi.

Sure, if your only problem with KKK or Nazis is that they think some people are garbage; while totally overlooking the who and why.

You do realize that thinking some people are garbage is literally the raison d'être for groups like the klan, right?

What would you imagine their activities would entail if they didn't think some people were human garbage?


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2020-07-14 8:57:09 AM  

eKonk: So sad. As a white male, I have so few public advocates who are willing to stand up to all the injustices I face in this oppressive society, particularly in these trying times. How am I to tell the women I encounter to smile, if I can't see whether they do or not behind their masks? Who will stand up for me when I can call a young girl and get disgusted looks in return?  My god, it's a rough life - you people just don't know the burden men carry in this society.


Yeah, it's no biggie. Not crying. Expected to be the bread winner. Going to war. Having to be the one rejected. Yeah all that in exchange for what?
Yeah no biggie. Why even bring it up.
 
2020-07-14 8:58:58 AM  

asciibaron: backhand.slap.of.reason: The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.

i tried to get an Order for Protection in PA... the female desk officer at the police station laughed at me.  i had to get a lawyer to get it.  it was a massive ordeal. 

as tempting as crazy is, dip it not even once my friends.


And this is what I don't understand. Why don't these guys go to congress and fight for stuff like this to be recognized like women's groups did for decades to force LO to recognize domestic battery and stalking and take it seriously? Is it that they don't really care about men being abused, and are just using it as a gaslight to try to attack women's issues?
 
2020-07-14 8:59:12 AM  
You know who else has been threatened with death by people who don't believe battered men deserve shelter?

The founder of the modern women's shelters.
 
2020-07-14 9:01:28 AM  
Interesting. Not surprised.

Fun fact, the guy taught adjunct at my college, and used bad data to carry on a 200 response long reply all conversation about BLM in May.

Not surprised it was him, and it isn't a big loss
 
2020-07-14 9:02:53 AM  

eKonk: So sad. As a white male, I have so few public advocates who are willing to stand up to all the injustices I face in this oppressive society, particularly in these trying times. How am I to tell the women I encounter to smile, if I can't see whether they do or not behind their masks? Who will stand up for me when I can call a young girl and get disgusted looks in return?  My god, it's a rough life - you people just don't know the burden men carry in this society.


I guess it's all that privilege that leads to an overwhelming suicide rate
 
2020-07-14 9:04:28 AM  
"Marc was an unbelievably generous man, living on a shoestring despite some personal health challenges so he could donate many millions of dollars of his time to mostly voluntary legal work on behalf of men's rights and the genuine gender equality that is so badly needed in this country and this world," the group said in a statement after his death.

Translation his health was in decline and he was either too obsessed with his crusade to take on regular clients or no one would hire him because of his reputation.

Calling it now. 10-1 it was by his own hand
 
2020-07-14 9:07:00 AM  

evilsofa: 90% of shooting deaths are women shooting men, so it was probably a woman that did it.


Why won't feminists do something about violence against men?  Far more men are murdered than women, but the men-hating feminists say nothing.  THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.  Men can't be expected to run the world AND fix themselves.
 
2020-07-14 9:09:04 AM  

Graffito: evilsofa: 90% of shooting deaths are women shooting men, so it was probably a woman that did it.

Why won't feminists do something about violence against men?  Far more men are murdered than women, but the men-hating feminists say nothing.  THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.  Men can't be expected to run the world AND fix themselves.


And don't get me started on lesbian women, who are so anti-man they refuse to have sex with them! And it works the other way too, I've been spit on as a gay man by a feminist woman who said "her femjina is better than any man!" Then she said I was raping her and spit on me! It's true!
 
2020-07-14 9:10:12 AM  
"Hey guys, shall we use this money to start a shelter for abused men?"
"Nah, lets use it to sue the Women's shelter instead"
 
2020-07-14 9:11:07 AM  

backhand.slap.of.reason: The Men's Rights Movement is abhorrently predicated on bad faith, yet there are almost no resources for men that find themselves victims of domestic violence.  The man can always leave, but then they'll have to deal with a Family Court Judge viewing them as a walkout.


Men have the exact same resources as women legally when it comes to DV, You can file a request for a protective order, be in from of a judge for an Ex Parte hearing and walk out with a Sheriff's escort and an order that requires the other party to vacate your shared living space until a full hearing in a week or so. and at the full hearing you can get an order that lasts 6 months plus.

There may not be as many battered men's shelters in the world as women's, true (though especially in communities where gay men reside in great numbers that is changing) but those are individual charities and if one doesn;t exist somebody has to start one.  The reason for this imbalance has largely to do with Men having more economic power than women traditionally, often having complete control over family finances, so the need was greater, particularly before DV orders came online in the mid 90's
 
2020-07-14 9:11:10 AM  

waxbeans: eKonk: So sad. As a white male, I have so few public advocates who are willing to stand up to all the injustices I face in this oppressive society, particularly in these trying times. How am I to tell the women I encounter to smile, if I can't see whether they do or not behind their masks? Who will stand up for me when I can call a young girl and get disgusted looks in return?  My god, it's a rough life - you people just don't know the burden men carry in this society.

Yeah, it's no biggie. Not crying. Expected to be the bread winner. Going to war. Having to be the one rejected. Yeah all that in exchange for what?
Yeah no biggie. Why even bring it up.


Not crying, bread winner, being the one rejecting...

Those sound like more of a you problem.

Going to war? That sounds like a federal problem. Don't enlist?
 
2020-07-14 9:13:41 AM  

UNC_Samurai: The irony of the
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Interesting I always envisioned pearl-clutching as putting your hand to your chest because you're wearing pearls
 
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