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(SFGate)   Cop points his gun at cuffed black man for refusing to give his name. Officers on the scene stand by and watch. Wait, they intervened, reported the bad cop and he has now been fired, arrested and charged? What is this world coming to?   (sfgate.com) divider line
    More: Florida, Police, Constable, Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister, black man's head, Janak Amin, Sheriff, memory of George Floyd  
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2020-07-13 6:31:07 PM  
It's a start.
 
2020-07-13 7:51:18 PM  
He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.
 
2020-07-13 8:13:20 PM  
good
that shiat don't flush
 
2020-07-13 8:14:58 PM  
Well, they saw an opportunity for a Sgt.s position and they took the opportunity. Hey. If it works...
 
2020-07-13 8:15:34 PM  
 
2020-07-13 8:16:35 PM  
How long until the intervening cops get fired?
 
2020-07-13 8:16:37 PM  
I'm the first to dog pule on a piece of shiat cop like the one who was reported, bit to the other coos, i say "Good job, now watch each others backs while the rest of the force avenges their sergeant".
 
2020-07-13 8:17:26 PM  
Holy christ that was a spelling fail of a post...
 
2020-07-13 8:19:20 PM  
This gives an opportunity to the cops that aren't completely ruined to do the right thing. Hopefully the retaliation from the rest of the rotten barrel won't be too bad.
 
2020-07-13 8:20:02 PM  
He must have been very disliked by his fellow officers.
 
2020-07-13 8:20:16 PM  

anfrind: How long until the intervening cops get fired?


Pessimism never made anything better, and it doesn't even insulate you against feeling bad, since you already assume bad things will happen.

Good on these cops, here's to hoping this is one of many good stories to come.
 
2020-07-13 8:20:48 PM  
Starting to dawn on some of these departments that people have had enough of their shiat.
 
2020-07-13 8:24:09 PM  
The victim said in a statement later that he didn't give his name because he was "scared to death," Chronister said.


almost
 
2020-07-13 8:24:51 PM  
"why did you shoot me sir"

https://youtu.be/RBUUO_VFYMs
 
2020-07-13 8:25:05 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.


maybe, but the training worked in this case
 
2020-07-13 8:26:17 PM  
Florida tag?

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2020-07-13 8:26:24 PM  
No worries. While the police union is suing to get him reinstated with back pay plus interest, the cops will investigate the cops and find that the cops did nothing wrong.
 
2020-07-13 8:27:33 PM  
Something tells me the cop has made other mistakes:

Once the sheriff's office realized the mistake, they went looking for him. They found him hiding behind a trailer, Chronister said. When officers confronted the man and put him in a "prone position" - lying flat on his stomach on the ground - the handcuffed man would not give his name, Chronister said.

So Amin knelt down next to him. He drew his firearm and pointed it inches from the man's head, the sheriff said.

Then, he told the man that if he refused to give his name, he would "splatter his brains all over the concrete."
 
2020-07-13 8:28:35 PM  
The Chronicle is posting WaPo articles about Florida? I'm doing a shot.
 
2020-07-13 8:34:00 PM  
Hopefully this will become the norm and bad cops will be purged.
 
2020-07-13 8:36:21 PM  

anfrind: How long until the intervening cops get fired?


Nope, they'll be ignored in crisis or bullied and ignored for promotion like the fraternal order of police wants.
 
2020-07-13 8:37:28 PM  
In a neighboring story, Polk County Sheriff's office announced a new member to the force, Janak Amin, hired just today...
 
2020-07-13 8:38:37 PM  

groppet: Hopefully this will become the norm and bad cops will be purged.


It's a start.

Maybe the cops will see the public being slightly more cooperative if they continue this behaviour, and it starts a positive feedback loop.

Its doubtful, but it is a dream...
 
2020-07-13 8:38:54 PM  
HOORAY!! A single instance of cops standing up for the public!!!
 
2020-07-13 8:39:58 PM  
As a resident of the Tampa Bay area, I have been impressed with Sheriff Chronister's attitude towards dealing with the people in his department. Definitely has some integrity and some sense. Glad he's getting rid of the shiatheads that shouldn't have any kind of authority.
 
2020-07-13 8:41:41 PM  
What is this world coming to indeed.
POLICE UNION TO THE RESCUE!

We'll have this blue wall breakers balls broken and off the force in no time flat
 
2020-07-13 8:42:50 PM  
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2020-07-13 8:43:10 PM  
The cop should have made him say his name was Toby
 
2020-07-13 8:44:41 PM  
More of this, damn it! More! Give me some farking hope for a change!

 
2020-07-13 8:46:32 PM  
He will most likely not be charged due to qualified immunity and his labor union will appeal his firing and has a pretty decent chance of being reinstated.
 
2020-07-13 8:46:54 PM  

halifaxdatageek: anfrind: How long until the intervening cops get fired?

Pessimism never made anything better, and it doesn't even insulate you against feeling bad, since you already assume bad things will happen.

Good on these cops, here's to hoping this is one of many good stories to come.


That's pattern recognition, not pessimism.
 
2020-07-13 8:47:03 PM  
He really should have been more respectful of the arresting officer and give him his name when asked.
 
2020-07-13 8:47:46 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.


No, but things like training are usually signs that they're a lot more likely to get a reasonable reception when they try to intervene.  Sort of like corporate HR mandating a bunch of training as a sign that the sexual harassment shiat is over with.

/in no way means this fixes everything, or that it shouldn't have been like that from the start
//just, "This is often what this kind of shiat is signaling"
///so, yay... now let's try to keep up the comparatively sane response to insane behavior by other officers please
////in closing, as far as the guy with the gun out - fark that pig sounds about right
 
2020-07-13 8:48:21 PM  
Has anybody bothered to ask "why?" did Janak Amin point a gun at a handcuffed man's head. That seems like a good question. I've seen movies where a cop will just beat the hell out of an unarmed, handcuffed man and the reason is usually justified. Maybe the unarmed, handcuffed man kidnapped and buried a girl alive ... perhaps a girl he bought off Wayfair.
 
2020-07-13 8:48:33 PM  
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2020-07-13 8:49:53 PM  

Mock26: He will most likely not be charged due to qualified immunity and his labor union will appeal his firing and has a pretty decent chance of being reinstated.


Headline: Officer has been charged.
TFA: Officer has been charged with a felony.
Farker: "He will most likely not be charged"
 
2020-07-13 8:51:16 PM  

Chain Smokes Freely: Has anybody bothered to ask "why?" did Janak Amin point a gun at a handcuffed man's head. That seems like a good question. I've seen movies where a cop will just beat the hell out of an unarmed, handcuffed man and the reason is usually justified. Maybe the unarmed, handcuffed man kidnapped and buried a girl alive ... perhaps a girl he bought off Wayfair.


Is there any boots you will not lick?
 
2020-07-13 8:52:05 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.



Lack of training is part of it.
 
2020-07-13 8:52:11 PM  

kendelrio: Holy christ that was a spelling fail of a post...


Seemde gud to mee but I doont spel to gud.
 
2020-07-13 8:52:52 PM  
maybe some day this won't be newsworthy.
 
2020-07-13 8:53:02 PM  
Wait... are we sure the guy was black?!
 
2020-07-13 8:53:45 PM  
This shouldn't be front page news.  It should be a minor footnote on the back pages.  That it's such a huge deal is what is wrong with our police

More of this and maybe we'll start trusting the police again.  Not any time soon, though, cops have a lot of catching up to do.
 
2020-07-13 8:55:40 PM  

Telos: ecmoRandomNumbers: He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.


Lack of training is part of it.


A twenty-one year veteran doesn't get to use "lack of training" as an excuse for blatantly illegal behavior.

The phrase you are looking for is "lack of consequences".
 
2020-07-13 8:56:26 PM  

sdd2000: Chain Smokes Freely: Has anybody bothered to ask "why?" did Janak Amin point a gun at a handcuffed man's head. That seems like a good question. I've seen movies where a cop will just beat the hell out of an unarmed, handcuffed man and the reason is usually justified. Maybe the unarmed, handcuffed man kidnapped and buried a girl alive ... perhaps a girl he bought off Wayfair.

Is there any boots you will not lick?


he was kidding
 
2020-07-13 8:57:42 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He said they were following recent training requiring them to intervene when they witness excessive force by colleagues.

Christ almighty. This whole abusive cop phenomenon isn't about lack of training. This is the manifestation of an entire culture of beta males who get off on intimidating and oppressing people. F*ck that pig.


If their "recent training" can be invoked by them as their excuse to do what they always knew they should be doing, then I for one am strongly in favor of more such training.
 
2020-07-13 8:58:43 PM  
Good luck getting backup when you need it, boys.
 
2020-07-13 8:59:00 PM  
He will be back on the job in a neighboring jurisdiction, with restored status and full back pay for the time he missed, when the union gets involved.
 
2020-07-13 9:02:05 PM  

DemonKing561: HOORAY!! A single instance of cops standing up for the public!!!


Amin, it's a start.
 
2020-07-13 9:02:54 PM  

OgreMagi: This shouldn't be front page news.  It should be a minor footnote on the back pages.  That it's such a huge deal is what is wrong with our police

More of this and maybe we'll start trusting the police again.  Not any time soon, though, cops have a lot of catching up to do.


The front page news should be that there was a dirty cop out there committing a crime.  But the real story here is that the other cops stopped him.

Those poor cops.  They will never be safe on the street again.  Their fellow cops will be nowhere to be found if they ever get into trouble, and their lives are about to become a living hell.
 
2020-07-13 9:03:04 PM  
 
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