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(CNN)   Airplanes have always been metal tubes of festering disease. Now they are tubes of fatal disease? Pass, until there's a Rona vaccine   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-07-13 7:05:05 PM  
You'd think an airplane would be a bit healthier, considering that it looks like a big Tylenol.
 
2020-07-13 7:10:48 PM  
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2020-07-13 7:47:19 PM  
It's also, he says, because he feels that no matter how careful he is, he can't guarantee others will be similarly conscientious.

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2020-07-13 8:39:13 PM  
Nothing that airlines, government officials or fellow travelers can say will convince them to step on board.

Considering all three are lying to us right now, I'll at least wait for a reality-friendly political climate.
 
2020-07-13 8:59:56 PM  
My family has decided we'll have my Dad's funeral once there's a vaccine. He's not in any rush to have it, and I don't want anyone dying to be there.
 
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2020-07-13 9:11:07 PM  

King Something: You'd think an airplane would be a bit healthier, considering that it looks like a big Tylenol.


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2020-07-13 9:31:31 PM  
It gets worse.

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2020-07-13 9:36:05 PM  
My suggestion is to have the lasagna.
 
2020-07-13 9:36:32 PM  
Congratulation subby.  You're never flying again.
 
2020-07-13 9:37:08 PM  
There may never be a vaccine.
 
2020-07-13 9:39:52 PM  
Do a barrel roll.
 
2020-07-13 9:40:26 PM  

IP: King Something: You'd think an airplane would be a bit healthier, considering that it looks like a big Tylenol.

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ironic that you'd post that here, considering the fact. that actor died of AIDS
 
2020-07-13 9:41:28 PM  
I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.
 
2020-07-13 9:41:46 PM  
Make novelty vacation packages where you get your SCUBA certification on the flight itself?
 
2020-07-13 9:43:11 PM  
I bet the airlines handled a lot better back in 1918
 
2020-07-13 9:44:18 PM  
I fly Branniff,they haven't crashed in 40 yrs.
 
2020-07-13 9:46:10 PM  

gameshowhost: It gets worse.

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What?  It's true.  Inanimate cargo can be strapped down for a predictable weight distribution, doesn't complain when you stick it on a scale in order to figure out what that distribution is, and does not require hundreds of pounds of dead weight to be carried in addition to its own weight.  (stewardesses, drinks carts, meals, sewage tanks, and seats are heavy, you know!)
 
2020-07-13 9:49:13 PM  

FatinAugust: ve been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask. That would be better than the current setup. I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.


No, those masks are connected to oxygen bottles, not enough air for an entire flight.
 
2020-07-13 9:49:48 PM  
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/ some millenials  should be used to it
 
2020-07-13 9:50:22 PM  

FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.


IIRC, the masks are connected to oxygen generators that are designed to last long enough for the pilot to get to an altitude where oxygen isn't required. So, probably not.
 
2020-07-13 9:51:53 PM  
 
2020-07-13 9:53:10 PM  

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: Make novelty vacation packages where you get your SCUBA certification on the flight itself?


The U stands for Underwater. That's not a flight I'm willing to take.

/SCBA is a thing
 
2020-07-13 9:56:40 PM  

cyberspacedout: Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: Make novelty vacation packages where you get your SCUBA certification on the flight itself?

The U stands for Underwater. That's not a flight I'm willing to take.

/SCBA is a thing


Say Scuba
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2020-07-13 9:58:32 PM  
I haven't traveled that much, and even then I've seen enough to make me want to avoid traveling by plane during a pandemic. More than a few people will ditch the rules and common sense when it suits them. At my job (a pharmaceutical company) there are signs everywhere telling people to always be masked up, and to keep socially distance from people when possible. And before you even go up into the building, your temp is taken, and if it is high then you can't enter the offices.

Despite this, I've seen people in the building walking around either wearing their mask improperly, or in the case of one guy, not wearing it at all. As for keeping their distance from other people, some people treat it as a suggestion instead of a rule.

Personally, I'd be surprised if coronavirus infections have gone down before next spring.
 
2020-07-13 10:02:45 PM  
Maybe there will never be an effective COVID vaccine. Maybe other diseases will start popping up. Mabe humanity will just have to go back to accepting a much higher death rate like it was 60-100 years ago.
 
2020-07-13 10:02:53 PM  
I have admittedly flown a couple of times this summer.

The good: airports are ghost towns and about 95% of people were wearing masks (at LAS, PDX and SEA.) Delta, at least, is flying at only 60% capacity and I saw 100% mask compliance on those flights, plus they hand out single use Purell gel and wipes. Supposedly the air inside the plane is replaced by fresh air and not recirculated and they're sanitizing between flights.

The bad: well, being around other people, especially indoors, is risky right now. But it was a risk I was willing to take. I also live alone and work remotely so self-quarantining has been easy. Same goes for the people I visited.

The ugly: the airport bars were all closed.
 
2020-07-13 10:03:10 PM  
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if it's good enough for Ted Cruz, it's good enough for me!
 
2020-07-13 10:05:45 PM  

King Something: You'd think an airplane would be a bit healthier, considering that it looks like a big Tylenol.



How about some coffee, Johnny?
 
2020-07-13 10:06:43 PM  

FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.


Not. They use oxygen generators that only provide a couple of minutes of oxygen. The drill for depressurization is to get the plane below 12,000 feet as fast as possible.
 
2020-07-13 10:12:01 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

Not. They use oxygen generators that only provide a couple of minutes of oxygen. The drill for depressurization is to get the plane below 12,000 feet as fast as possible.


"Six hundred miles an hour: blank faces, calm as Hindu cows."
 
2020-07-13 10:22:33 PM  
..his youngest child is only 10 months old and he says he'd be worried about her crawling on the aisle.

Yeah, how about you just go ahead and stay off of planes after this shiat show is over, too.
 
2020-07-13 10:27:45 PM  

Dr._Michael_Hfuhruhurr: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

Not. They use oxygen generators that only provide a couple of minutes of oxygen. The drill for depressurization is to get the plane below 12,000 feet as fast as possible.

"Six hundred miles an hour: blank faces, calm as Hindu cows."


...being fed oxygen from a 500 degree fire in a can.
 
2020-07-13 10:35:02 PM  

FlippityFlap: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

IIRC, the masks are connected to oxygen generators that are designed to last long enough for the pilot to get to an altitude where oxygen isn't required. So, probably not.


Yep, those units get about 15 minutes of O2 to the passengers, in theory plenty of time for a pilot to conduct an emergency descent from 40,000 to 10,000 feet. A 3000 feet per minute descent takes 10 minutes. Not sure what the emergency checklist descent rate calls for on the big iron.
 
2020-07-13 10:36:01 PM  

IP: King Something: You'd think an airplane would be a bit healthier, considering that it looks like a big Tylenol.

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Look at the hand under the OO - it's holding an ice cream cone. Took me 30 years to notice that. That movie never fails to deliver.
 
2020-07-13 10:55:52 PM  

FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.


No, but planes already have air blowing from a nozzle above everyone's seat. That's a mixture of outside air and cabin air recirculated through a HEPA filter. If you point it straight at your face you get some protection. It wouldn't be too hard to rig up some sort of a plastic bubble over your entire head with a line connected to that air supply. Of course it wouldn't solve the problem of getting on and off the plane, or going to the can mid-flight.
 
2020-07-13 11:02:59 PM  
We have to fly next week from Maui to the Big Island for medical treatment. It's a 40 minute flight. It looks like Hawaiian Airlines is spacing out the seats. We're going to wear face masks, face shields, and rubber gloves, and bring tons of hand sanitizer and wipes. The airports are mostly open air so that's good. Cases are low here, so hopefully we won't get the rona. I wish I could fly to the mainland to visit family, but it's too scary now.
 
2020-07-13 11:03:02 PM  

Ishidan: gameshowhost: It gets worse.

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What?  It's true.  Inanimate cargo can be strapped down for a predictable weight distribution, doesn't complain when you stick it on a scale in order to figure out what that distribution is, and does not require hundreds of pounds of dead weight to be carried in addition to its own weight.  (stewardesses, drinks carts, meals, sewage tanks, and seats are heavy, you know!)


Of course it's true.

now stop harshing on my so-so joke geez
 
2020-07-13 11:15:47 PM  

Ivo Shandor: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

No, but planes already have air blowing from a nozzle above everyone's seat. That's a mixture of outside air and cabin air recirculated through a HEPA filter. If you point it straight at your face you get some protection. It wouldn't be too hard to rig up some sort of a plastic bubble over your entire head with a line connected to that air supply. Of course it wouldn't solve the problem of getting on and off the plane, or going to the can mid-flight.


I wasn't suggesting using the oxygen, but use the ducting and distribution lines with fresh air or highly filtered air.  Do the oxygen masks have individual oxygen tanks/generators?
 
2020-07-13 11:18:23 PM  

FatinAugust: Ivo Shandor: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

No, but planes already have air blowing from a nozzle above everyone's seat. That's a mixture of outside air and cabin air recirculated through a HEPA filter. If you point it straight at your face you get some protection. It wouldn't be too hard to rig up some sort of a plastic bubble over your entire head with a line connected to that air supply. Of course it wouldn't solve the problem of getting on and off the plane, or going to the can mid-flight.

I wasn't suggesting using the oxygen, but use the ducting and distribution lines with fresh air or highly filtered air.  Do the oxygen masks have individual oxygen tanks/generators?


And I should read all of the comments first.  Good night everyone.
 
2020-07-13 11:58:59 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: Congratulation subby.  You're never flying again.


Look at these people saying herd immunity isn't possible because immunity vanishes in a few weeks or months think that still means there will be vaccine.
 
2020-07-14 12:03:09 AM  

FatinAugust: I wasn't suggesting using the oxygen, but use the ducting and distribution lines with fresh air or highly filtered air. Do the oxygen masks have individual oxygen tanks/generators?


Yes, the emergency oxygen comes from individual chemical generators rather than a central distribution line.
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2020-07-14 12:06:47 AM  

skinink: At my job (a pharmaceutical company)...

Despite this, I've seen people in the building walking around either wearing their mask improperly, or in the case of one guy, not wearing it at all. As for keeping their distance from other people, some people treat it as a suggestion instead of a rule.


Empathy issues at a pharmaceutical company?

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2020-07-14 12:37:29 AM  

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if it's good enough for Ted Cruz, it's good enough for me!


Nice! I flew with lying Ted once. Ducey too. Meant to ask Ted if they planned to run someone against Trump in a republican primary. Thank the RNC! And DNC for Hillary last time around. What a mess.

I didn't trust the airline to clean the plane before the virus. Filthy mess, god forbid you put the tray down or have to reach into the grab bag pocket of death. Only flight I'm on is to transport my dead body.

Airlines are gonna need to make airtravel great again. More space, clean, friendly, efficient. They sure screwed themselves! I can drive anywhere I want to go, invest about the same amount of time, and deal with a lot less bullshiat.
 
2020-07-14 12:40:09 AM  

Ivo Shandor: FatinAugust: I've been wondering if the plane's oxygen mask system could be adapted for constant use to provide fresh air through a better mask.  That would be better than the current setup.  I don't know how feasible that would be, but I'm curious.

No, but planes already have air blowing from a nozzle above everyone's seat. That's a mixture of outside air and cabin air recirculated through a HEPA filter. If you point it straight at your face you get some protection. It wouldn't be too hard to rig up some sort of a plastic bubble over your entire head with a line connected to that air supply. Of course it wouldn't solve the problem of getting on and off the plane, or going to the can mid-flight.


Here's a prototype for your bubble idea.
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2020-07-14 12:52:19 AM  

ocelot: I fly Branniff,they haven't crashed in 40 yrs.


Braniff? You sound old.

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/old
 
2020-07-14 2:29:23 AM  
I've flown a couple times (with a 3yr old) since March. Been through SAN PHX and SJC. Airports were practically empty (except PHX, you crazy bastards) strict mask policies in place, plenty of space to social distance in the airports, flights no more than 2/3 full and the planes were unusually clean.
Then my hubby and I stopped to wish a friend happy birthday a few weeks ago and walked into a outdoor party with 30 people we knew, all not wearing masks. Hugging, kissing, sharing appetizers, drinking and spit talking - I told the hubby I was more comfortable on the plane.
 
2020-07-14 5:34:31 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Yes, the emergency oxygen comes from individual chemical generators rather than a central distribution line.


I forget which shiatty airline was carrying a bunch of extra O2 generators in its cargo bay, but they ignited and dropped the plane into the everglades.
 
2020-07-14 7:26:27 AM  
Years ago I walked on a transatlantic flight with a sniffle and crawled off with 103 fever. Thank goodness for free clinics. I hope I didn't infect anybody. Probably did.
 
2020-07-14 7:47:24 AM  

KrustyKitten: I've flown a couple times (with a 3yr old) since March. Been through SAN PHX and SJC. Airports were practically empty (except PHX, you crazy bastards) strict mask policies in place, plenty of space to social distance in the airports, flights no more than 2/3 full and the planes were unusually clean.
Then my hubby and I stopped to wish a friend happy birthday a few weeks ago and walked into a outdoor party with 30 people we knew, all not wearing masks. Hugging, kissing, sharing appetizers, drinking and spit talking - I told the hubby I was more comfortable on the plane.


Just remember, most of the people on the plane are of the unmasked cookout variety.
 
2020-07-14 10:45:37 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Ivo Shandor: Yes, the emergency oxygen comes from individual chemical generators rather than a central distribution line.

I forget which shiatty airline was carrying a bunch of extra O2 generators in its cargo bay, but they ignited and dropped the plane into the everglades.


The one formerly known as ValuJet.
 
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