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2020-07-13 1:03:43 PM  
So, how many people are missing there?
 
2020-07-13 1:04:04 PM  
Her poor son will live with that for the rest of his life.
 
2020-07-13 1:07:33 PM  
Poor woman and poor kid.
 
2020-07-13 1:07:59 PM  

Trik: Her poor son will live with that for the rest of his life.


I feel so sorry he had to witness that.  I am extremely glad she didn't take him with her.
 
2020-07-13 1:08:51 PM  
I just glad this is over. Sad story, and for her to still be missing so long was awful.
I hope her family finds some kind of peace and resolution.
 
2020-07-13 1:08:52 PM  
Not that it wasn't expected, that sucks out loud
 
2020-07-13 1:13:09 PM  
I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.
 
2020-07-13 1:13:42 PM  
:-(

I'm really sorry for her little boy - and her family.
 
2020-07-13 1:19:24 PM  
This story is just drowning in sadness.
 
2020-07-13 1:20:05 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


Not saying you are wrong, but I saw somewhere that the water is shallow in some spots and deep in others and there is mud and other debris on the bottom.  It is possible she jumped in and got tangled up or stuck in something underwater.

Probably unlikely, but anything is possible.
 
2020-07-13 1:22:02 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


You make the assumption that if you're sufficiently depressed enough to commit suicide that you're acting in a rational manner. That's not how deep depression works. It's not like there's a "get out of depression free" card for mothers.
 
2020-07-13 1:24:39 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


A wealthy woman with a child wants to kill herself.  She:
A) sends her son away to Grandmas for the afternoon, takes enough tranquilizers to kill an elephant, and drifts away, leaving a note to make sure her child is cared for.
B) rents a boat, goes out to the middle of a lake, brings her child because reasons, leaves child in the boat without a lifejacket, decides to dive as deep as she can in a lake and endure ninety seconds of terror as she fights her drowning reflex and never knows what happens to her child.

You may turn out to be right, but I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy.
 
2020-07-13 1:25:18 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


Too many desperate, suicidal people take their children with them. I suppose it's good she didn't do that.
 
2020-07-13 1:30:08 PM  
So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

Anyway, this dude died last week when he jumped off a boat, which classifies his death as a boating accident and not a drowning because the boat was moving.

Published: 5:04 PM EDT July 4, 2020
Updated: 10:26 PM EDT July 4, 2020
ATLANTA - State authorities have identified a man they say jumped from a moving boat on Lake Lanier, Friday, and didn't resurface.
According to Georgia Department of Natural Resources spokesperson Maj. Mike England, the death of 59-year-old Bruce Lee Hild of Winterville, Georgia has been classified as a boating fatality given that he had apparently jumped from a moving vessel.
 
2020-07-13 1:30:29 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.


(snip)

I don't think you'd kill yourself essentially in front of your kid, leaving him to potentially die. Also, there was apparently 2 foot chop and windy conditions when she died. Even if she was a strong swimmer she could panic as she watched her kid drift further away each minute as she struggled to get back to the raft.. Prime conditions for a drowning.  She could also have hit her head on an object or the ground after diving in, locals report at least one snapped neck from folks not knowing how variable the depths at Piru can be.  I haven't seen anything that even notes that she was a swimmer at all.  Finally this from a searcher who knows the "lake", which is a flooded resevoir.

"In this particular lake, in that area, there's a lot of trees and plants and such that are under the water that can cause entanglements. It makes it unsafe for the divers and it makes it a more complicated search,"
 
2020-07-13 1:31:42 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.

Not saying you are wrong, but I saw somewhere that the water is shallow in some spots and deep in others and there is mud and other debris on the bottom.  It is possible she jumped in and got tangled up or stuck in something underwater.

Probably unlikely, but anything is possible.


There's a place where we used to cliff jump as teens. We later found out from a buddy whose dad worked for the company who owned it that there was all kinds of old machinery and ropes and wires and whatnot on the bottom. Shocked none of us got hurt there.
 
2020-07-13 1:35:39 PM  
What if it turns out to be Cory Monteith. Now THERE would be a plot twist.
 
2020-07-13 1:39:52 PM  
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2020-07-13 1:40:06 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.


I'm not. Drunken escapade. Horrible mishap. Lack of judgment. All of those make far more sense than suicide.
 
2020-07-13 1:41:26 PM  
Lakes suck.
 
2020-07-13 1:44:09 PM  
I see a lot of assumptions that this was intentional.  There are any number of ways this could have been accidental.

I've been surfing and open-water swimming since I was ~12, and I was a swimmer and water polo player in HS - I am, by any measure, a strong swimmer.  When I was ~20, I came close to drowning in 6-7 feet of water while swimming alone in a hotel pool.  I had a massive sudden cramp (in a muscle still recovering from a previous injury).  Between the cramp and all the water I swallowed while gasping at the initial onset, I was totally nonfunctional as a swimmer.  Years of drills from Scouting and organized swim helped me to overcome my panic and roll to my back, and I was eventually able to calm down enough to breathe and get myself to the edge.  It took another 10 minutes before the muscle relaxed enough that I could climb out of the pool.

Anyone, strong swimmer or no, is one minor injury or accident away from having a bad day in the water.  In open water, unable to reach or climb back onto a boat, it wouldn't take much for someone to panic, tire themselves out, and slip under.  Don't swim alone, and always be careful.
 
2020-07-13 1:44:47 PM  
TMZ just said they confirmed it is her. Very sad but not unexpected.
 
2020-07-13 1:44:55 PM  
"And to drink... Piru!"

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2020-07-13 1:46:15 PM  

phenn: Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

I'm not. Drunken escapade. Horrible mishap. Lack of judgment. All of those make far more sense than suicide.


Yeah, especially since we heard that the bottom of this lake is littered with debris. She jumps in and hits her head or get tangled in the debris, then it wouldn't take long to drown. It unfortunately happens in many lakes.
 
2020-07-13 1:46:42 PM  
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2020-07-13 1:47:10 PM  

phenn: Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

I'm not. Drunken escapade. Horrible mishap. Lack of judgment. All of those make far more sense than suicide.


Cold water shock?

/happens a couples time a year where I live. They jump in a never come up.
 
2020-07-13 1:47:24 PM  
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/I'm firmly in the horrible accident camp
 
2020-07-13 1:48:43 PM  

pounddawg: phenn: Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

I'm not. Drunken escapade. Horrible mishap. Lack of judgment. All of those make far more sense than suicide.

Cold water shock?

/happens a couples time a year where I live. They jump in a never come up.


Yeah. Every year, at pretty much any big lake, there's one or two people who drown due to tragic accidents.  Some aren't due to alcohol.  They just get into a situation where they drown.
 
2020-07-13 1:51:42 PM  

4seasons85!: phenn: Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

I'm not. Drunken escapade. Horrible mishap. Lack of judgment. All of those make far more sense than suicide.

Yeah, especially since we heard that the bottom of this lake is littered with debris. She jumps in and hits her head or get tangled in the debris, then it wouldn't take long to drown. It unfortunately happens in many lakes.


I live on Lake Arenal. At least once a year, there is a drowning in the lake. The shores and shallows are muddy and murky from red rock. The depth is over 300 ft in the center. Guys go out to spear fish and get trapped until they drown. It is horrible, but not at all unusual.
 
2020-07-13 1:53:17 PM  

FLMountainMan: You may turn out to be right, but I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy.


Occam's Razor depends on the premise that the actions you are analyzing proceed from a rational basis.

I think you can see the flaw in that reasoning.
 
2020-07-13 1:54:12 PM  

Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.


What makes it so dangerous?
 
2020-07-13 1:55:08 PM  

gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

What makes it so dangerous?


Drinking.
 
2020-07-13 1:57:08 PM  

Rapmaster2000: gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

What makes it so dangerous?

Drinking.


Oh ok.  I thought maybe it was a feature of the lake.
 
2020-07-13 1:57:54 PM  

gilgigamesh: FLMountainMan: You may turn out to be right, but I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy.

Occam's Razor depends on the premise that the actions you are analyzing proceed from a rational basis.

I think you can see the flaw in that reasoning.


I know you think you're on the "right side" here but what you're really doing is stigmatizing depression even more.  "Trying to apply any rational framework to her behavior is useless!  She's crazy!  Just give up and assume it's suicide!"  Yawn.
 
2020-07-13 1:59:41 PM  

deadsanta: I don't think you'd kill yourself essentially in front of your kid, leaving him to potentially die.


You're missing a possibility: her plan was to take her own life and that of her kid, lost her nerve at the last minute, and she just took her own life.
 
2020-07-13 2:02:02 PM  

gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

What makes it so dangerous?

Drinking.

Oh ok.  I thought maybe it was a feature of the lake.


Nah, it's just a big lake without a lot of drunks on it.
 
2020-07-13 2:02:29 PM  
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2020-07-13 2:05:49 PM  

FLMountainMan: I know you think you're on the "right side" here but what you're really doing is stigmatizing depression even more.  "Trying to apply any rational framework to her behavior is useless!  She's crazy!  Just give up and assume it's suicide!"  Yawn.


I didn't know there were sides, and I don't know what happened any more than you do.  I am just saying it is possible.

Any time someone kills himself, people seem to need to engage in some sort of dissection of the rationality of his acts.  People who kill themselves out of depression are sick, and that sickness can overwhelm rational thought, making that a pointless exercise.  Someone well loved and surrounded by people who want to help will feel alone and that the world would be better off without them, because the disease tells them that.

That's all I am saying.  Sorry if that offends you for whatever reason, but I've lost people very close to me through suicide, and it is true.
 
2020-07-13 2:07:18 PM  
Sidenote: Was Lea Michele always an arrogant biatch?
 
2020-07-13 2:08:17 PM  
Of course, it might not be a famous person at all.

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2020-07-13 2:12:28 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


Maybe not. This kind of death happens at a local lake here (Lanier) several times a summer. Somebody who isn't a good swimmer, and may have had a few beers, jumps off a boat and into a submerged tree. They go down and never come back up. Dive team goes in and sometimes it takes a few days for the body to outgas enough to break from the branches.
 
2020-07-13 2:13:32 PM  

Rapmaster2000: gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

What makes it so dangerous?

Drinking.


and submerged trees.
 
2020-07-13 2:13:44 PM  
An article about the danger of Lake Lanier, apparently written in 2012, notes a highly variable death rate, anywhere from 2 to 19 deaths per year, with no pattern to the reason for the deaths.
 
2020-07-13 2:15:35 PM  

Wellon Dowd: Of course, it might not be a famous person at all.

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2020-07-13 2:16:37 PM  

Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

Anyway, this dude died last week when he jumped off a boat, which classifies his death as a boating accident and not a drowning because the boat was moving.

Published: 5:04 PM EDT July 4, 2020
Updated: 10:26 PM EDT July 4, 2020
ATLANTA - State authorities have identified a man they say jumped from a moving boat on Lake Lanier, Friday, and didn't resurface.
According to Georgia Department of Natural Resources spokesperson Maj. Mike England, the death of 59-year-old Bruce Lee Hild of Winterville, Georgia has been classified as a boating fatality given that he had apparently jumped from a moving vessel.


There are unspeakable terrors in that lake. I've hit old tree stumps diving in it that can't be seen from the surface though they be only a couple feet down.
 
2020-07-13 2:16:53 PM  

evilsofa: An article about the danger of Lake Lanier, apparently written in 2012, notes a highly variable death rate, anywhere from 2 to 19 deaths per year, with no pattern to the reason for the deaths.


For clarity, this is a reply to Rapmaster2000 about the lake in Georgia, not the lake that Naya Riviera drowned in.
 
2020-07-13 2:20:40 PM  

Rapmaster2000: gilgigamesh: Rapmaster2000: So, Lake Lanier is a very large and popular lake outside of Atlanta.  I've been there this summer even, and it's nice, but so many people die there.  It's like 2 or 3 a weekend in the summer.  Being a rescue diver there would give me PTSD.  I'm extra careful there because I read so many articles of carnage about it.  The water is dangerous.

What makes it so dangerous?

Drinking.


that is a part of it. It's man made lake They flooded the area. There is actually a town under there. There are lots of trees and other things to get caught on. It's a very busy lake with lots of boats that don't really belong on a lake. Big boats that don't care about anyone else. Lots of unqualified captains too.
 
2020-07-13 2:28:44 PM  
There are lots of ways of dying on a lake or river, most due to inability to properly assess a situation/inexperience. Jumping off a boat for a swim with nobody else able to crew the boat properly isn't even uncommon. The boat just has to drift away in wind faster than a person can catch up/get their bearings. Water saps body heat (even 'warm' water) and it is exhausting to work against if you aren't used to it. Moreso if you're in a panic state. It even happens to experienced/over-confident boaters. Not wearing a PFD is stupid, but so common as to be unremarkable - in the US, that's the 4th of July weekend fatalities in a nutshell. So, unless some sort of evidence is found that this was deliberate, it most likely was an accident. A tragedy, and her family, especially the child, are going to struggle for a long time with this.
 
2020-07-13 2:37:31 PM  

Wesdog: I'm convinced it was suicide.

A person decides to rent a boat alone with their 4 year old son. Goes out on the water and hours later someone finds the 4 year old asleep on the boat by himself. Kid said mommy jumped (didn't say fell or slipped but that she jumped) in the water and didn't come back up. She is young and healthy, exercises regularly, so the chances that it was some health issue is unlikely. She just jumped in swam as deep as she could go and drowned before her body was able to get her back to the surface.

If you are out on the water by yourself with a child you both should have on your life jackets. No life jacket on her makes it even more likely she killed herself.

Sad af, how is that poor kid going to feel when they are older and understand what their mother did? I understand depression but you don't hurt your children like that no matter what is going on in your mind. Leave your kid with the other parent or someone else. You don't take the kid out on the lake and hope someone finds them after you are dead. I can't believe a mother who claims to love their child would take them out and put them in danger of being alone on a boat in the lake on top of the trauma her death is going to cause the poor kid for the rest of their life.


Or maybe she didn't know how to swim and fell in. Which makes are just dumb.
 
2020-07-13 2:38:02 PM  

Herbie555: I see a lot of assumptions that this was intentional.  There are any number of ways this could have been accidental.

I've been surfing and open-water swimming since I was ~12, and I was a swimmer and water polo player in HS - I am, by any measure, a strong swimmer.  When I was ~20, I came close to drowning in 6-7 feet of water while swimming alone in a hotel pool.  I had a massive sudden cramp (in a muscle still recovering from a previous injury).  Between the cramp and all the water I swallowed while gasping at the initial onset, I was totally nonfunctional as a swimmer.  Years of drills from Scouting and organized swim helped me to overcome my panic and roll to my back, and I was eventually able to calm down enough to breathe and get myself to the edge.  It took another 10 minutes before the muscle relaxed enough that I could climb out of the pool.

Anyone, strong swimmer or no, is one minor injury or accident away from having a bad day in the water.  In open water, unable to reach or climb back onto a boat, it wouldn't take much for someone to panic, tire themselves out, and slip under.  Don't swim alone, and always be careful.



I almost drowned the same way in a crowded pool: massive leg cramps after swim-team practice.
The life guard, whom i'd known for years, assumed I was just goofing around (a not unprecedented notion).
 
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