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(Great Falls Tribune)   Runner "collides" with bear in Glacier National Park. Someone forgot to yell "On your left"   (greatfallstribune.com) divider line
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2020-07-12 11:47:16 AM  
She's lucky it wasn't a momma bear with cubs. As it is she's too stupid to live.
 
2020-07-12 12:04:53 PM  

LordZorch: She's lucky it wasn't a momma bear with cubs. As it is she's too stupid to live.


I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

She certainly was lucky though.
 
2020-07-12 12:18:43 PM  
i undrrstuud that refurance hurr durr

/no really, winter soldier was pretty good
 
2020-07-12 12:19:21 PM  
Meanwhile, over on Bear Fark, there is a thread about colliding with a runner.
 
2020-07-12 12:19:54 PM  
Why didn't the rangers arrest her for hit-and-run? She confessed.
 
2020-07-12 12:26:24 PM  

BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?


TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.
 
2020-07-12 12:54:49 PM  
Frog right!
 
2020-07-12 1:01:33 PM  
Ma'am, didn't you see that red light?

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2020-07-12 1:07:44 PM  
Someone failed their situational awareness test.

I wonder if she was wearing earbuds.
 
2020-07-12 1:09:18 PM  

edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.


I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.
 
2020-07-12 1:40:44 PM  
What a runner colliding with a Bear might look like.

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2020-07-12 1:44:13 PM  
"Oh look! It's Winnie the Pooh!"
 
2020-07-12 2:25:39 PM  

BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.


FTFA:  Park officials said trail running in grizzly habitat is dangerous because runners traveling quickly and quietly have a higher risk of surprising grizzly bears at close range. Glacier National Park discourages trail running in order to protect the public and the bears.

I don't live in bear country, but we do have foxes and the occasional bobcat in my area. As such, I don't run at night or in low light conditions. I imagine that many people would consider it a tad bit if not outright stupid to run in an area where park officials advise you to not run for your safety. Then again, we live in a society that requires warning labels advising people to not use hair dryers in showers or bathtubs.
 
2020-07-12 3:29:04 PM  
Well someone did yell "bear left".
 
2020-07-12 3:34:05 PM  
Quite often if a runner shows aggression on the trail they tag it, if it happens again they euthanize it.
 
2020-07-12 3:35:19 PM  
Did he apologize to the bear after?
 
2020-07-12 3:35:22 PM  

UncleDirtNap: Well someone did yell "bear left".


Tangentially related, but this one reminds me of one of the few genuine, "I hate some bastards on bikes!" things.  People that think that zooming up, yelling "On your right!" or whatever in your ear .016 seconds before they slam through the space should be considered perfectly adequate warning.  With those chucklefarks I usually have just enough time to go "Gah!" and jump - half the time the wrong way - whereupon they're swerving and yelling shiat at me.   Yeah, that was totally enough to time even process what the hell you were saying, much less keep out of the way, Speed Racer.  Maybe you shouldn't be letting Chim-Chim drive.

/a lot of the bike hate is bullshiat
//that one drives me farking nuts
///call it farking early people - give us at least a half second or so to know WTF is going on ;p
 
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2020-07-12 3:36:55 PM  
How the fork little attention are you paying if you can fail to notice a whole forking bear? Good thing no grannies were hiking that day.  If that's how you operate, maybe trail running is not for you.
 
2020-07-12 3:37:46 PM  
Sick of clicking through to articles that I cant read because I have an Ad Blocker......JFC.
 
2020-07-12 3:38:18 PM  
Are they gonna sue each other for pain and suffering and emotional distress?
 
2020-07-12 3:38:20 PM  
She didn't have anything to worry about.  Bears cruising the trails are usually looking for other bears.
 
2020-07-12 3:38:54 PM  

Brosephus: BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.

FTFA:  Park officials said trail running in grizzly habitat is dangerous because runners traveling quickly and quietly have a higher risk of surprising grizzly bears at close range. Glacier National Park discourages trail running in order to protect the public and the bears.

I don't live in bear country, but we do have foxes and the occasional bobcat in my area. As such, I don't run at night or in low light conditions. I imagine that many people would consider it a tad bit if not outright stupid to run in an area where park officials advise you to not run for your safety. Then again, we live in a society that requires warning labels advising people to not use hair dryers in showers or bathtubs.


Hell, we live in a society that refuses to keep their fellow citizens from dying of a hideous death because "Muh freedoms".
 
2020-07-12 3:40:16 PM  

BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.


No, we should judge people who refuse to sit and let their ass grow whilst awaiting the beetuss and the rona.
 
2020-07-12 3:42:26 PM  

LordZorch: She's lucky it wasn't a momma bear with cubs. As it is she's too stupid to live.


Momma bears aren't all that.  I've come across a number of black bear cubs when hiking.  The standard procedure is the cubs run up a tree, and the mother bear runs off for a bit.

/Offer not valid for polar bears.
 
2020-07-12 3:43:49 PM  
Visitors to Glacier National Park are reminded that the park is home to black and grizzly bears.

Black Bears Don't Matter
 
2020-07-12 3:50:51 PM  
She was on the Huckleberry Lookout Trail.  No mention was made of whether or not she saw Huckleberry.  I am disappoint.
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2020-07-12 3:56:33 PM  
I'm amazed by her lack of situational awareness.
 
2020-07-12 4:01:22 PM  
I guess the bear has quite a story for the next CSB (Cool Story, Bear) thread on BearFark.
 
2020-07-12 4:06:40 PM  
I still don't understand how it happened. How fast was she running that she couldn't alter her course when the bear appeared? Was she doing sprints? Running backwards?
 
2020-07-12 4:12:49 PM  

Nogale: I still don't understand how it happened. How fast was she running that she couldn't alter her course when the bear appeared? Was she doing sprints? Running backwards?


Not every trail has great visibility.  Trees, and undergrowth exist.  At times you're just hiking/running through a green tunnel.  Bears, at times make their own trails, and travel at speed.

I was hiking through the Smokies, and came upon a women who had stopped and was excited, because a bear had blasted across the trail, not three feet in front of her.  As I was saying "wow!" another bear blasted across the trail about 15 feet away.  Bears gonna do bear things.

I'm not confident the "situational awareness" folks above have ever walked in the woods.

/Constant Vigilance!
 
2020-07-12 4:20:19 PM  
was it  
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2020-07-12 4:22:12 PM  
I don't do bears I do big time losers like the Sea Hacks.........!!! Winner every time!!!!
 
2020-07-12 4:25:55 PM  
I can totally relate to the bear's plight. Just a couple weeks ago I too had a meal delivery service show up at my door and I had to ordered anything.
 
2020-07-12 4:37:34 PM  
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2020-07-12 4:42:22 PM  
How the fark do you accidently run into a bear? Is this just a cover story for "tried to get a selfie with a bear and it didn't go well?"
 
2020-07-12 5:11:40 PM  
They do blend in with all the hair and leather.
 
2020-07-12 5:19:49 PM  
I had to bear attack me at a gay campground. I just beat him off.
 
2020-07-12 5:48:38 PM  
Why is the word collides in quotes? That's literally the definition of the word. She ran into a bear, or to use a synonym, she collided with a bear. That's how words work.
 
2020-07-12 6:00:28 PM  
From Ironman Canada a few years ago:

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2020-07-12 6:42:55 PM  

edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear country is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.


Neither is riding a bicycle in bear country. It doesn't matter to an enraged grizzly if you're on two legs or two wheels (as this guy, unfortunately, found out near Glacier N.P. four years ago).
 
2020-07-12 7:29:13 PM  

Glenford: From Ironman Canada a few years ago:

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What was the bear's time?  More amusingly, did it contribute to a much, MUCH shorter time from the competitors in front of it?
 
2020-07-12 7:30:06 PM  

Mikey1969: Why is the word collides in quotes? That's literally the definition of the word. She ran into a bear, or to use a synonym, she collided with a bear. That's how words work.


On Fark, the headlines are not trustworthy descriptions of the articles.

The quotes here are presumably meant to indicate that the word "collides" was used in TFA.

/not that I would trust subby on that
 
2020-07-12 8:07:22 PM  

NDP2: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear country is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

Neither is riding a bicycle in bear country. It doesn't matter to an enraged grizzly if you're on two legs or two wheels (as this guy, unfortunately, found out near Glacier N.P. four years ago).


True but black bears can be a bit less aggressive.  I remember a tale of a teacher in Missoula MT (a couple of years before your story) who lived in the hills south of town.  He was hauling ass on the dirt road from his house, came over a small rise and plowed into the side of a black bear walking across it.  The bear shrugged off the collision and kept on going but he needed some attention from the school nurse before starting his class.  He was lucky it wasn't a grizzly because there were some spotted just a few miles from there about that same time.
 
2020-07-12 8:11:16 PM  

Sin'sHero: Meanwhile, over on Bear Fark, there is a thread about colliding with a runner.


I pay 5 Yogi Bucks a month for Bear Fark. Worth every penny.
 
2020-07-12 8:37:07 PM  

Brosephus: BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.

FTFA:  Park officials said trail running in grizzly habitat is dangerous because runners traveling quickly and quietly have a higher risk of surprising grizzly bears at close range. Glacier National Park discourages trail running in order to protect the public and the bears.

I don't live in bear country, but we do have foxes and the occasional bobcat in my area. As such, I don't run at night or in low light conditions. I imagine that many people would consider it a tad bit if not outright stupid to run in an area where park officials advise you to not run for your safety. Then again, we live in a society that requires warning labels advising people to not use hair dryers in showers or bathtubs.


Foxes and bobcats? You're worried about those?
 
2020-07-12 8:40:54 PM  

Ker_Thwap: LordZorch: She's lucky it wasn't a momma bear with cubs. As it is she's too stupid to live.

Momma bears aren't all that.  I've come across a number of black bear cubs when hiking.  The standard procedure is the cubs run up a tree, and the mother bear runs off for a bit.

/Offer not valid for polar bears.


Black bear mommas with cubs can be plenty dangerous. And in Glacier where this happened, grizzlies with cubs are downright deadly.
 
2020-07-12 10:41:27 PM  

wiredroach: Brosephus: BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.

FTFA:  Park officials said trail running in grizzly habitat is dangerous because runners traveling quickly and quietly have a higher risk of surprising grizzly bears at close range. Glacier National Park discourages trail running in order to protect the public and the bears.

I don't live in bear country, but we do have foxes and the occasional bobcat in my area. As such, I don't run at night or in low light conditions. I imagine that many people would consider it a tad bit if not outright stupid to run in an area where park officials advise you to not run for your safety. Then again, we live in a society that requires warning labels advising people to not use hair dryers in showers or bathtubs.

Foxes and bobcats? You're worried about those?


The animals themselves, no. The rabies. Yes.
 
2020-07-12 11:58:15 PM  

BigBurrito: LordZorch: She's lucky it wasn't a momma bear with cubs. As it is she's too stupid to live.

I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

She certainly was lucky though.


Well. He's an expert on being stupid, and lately, I've been hearing a lot about listening to the experts.
 
2020-07-13 12:02:01 AM  

Brosephus: BigBurrito: edmo: BigBurrito: I do not follow where you are getting stupid from?

TFA covers it. Running in bear cournty is not smart. Not to mention it's big kitty country,too.

I live in bear country, lots and lots of people run.

They are neither stupid, nor not stupid. It is a silly thing to assign a judgement on a runner.

FTFA:  Park officials said trail running in grizzly habitat is dangerous because runners traveling quickly and quietly have a higher risk of surprising grizzly bears at close range. Glacier National Park discourages trail running in order to protect the public and the bears.

I don't live in bear country, but we do have foxes and the occasional bobcat in my area. As such, I don't run at night or in low light conditions. I imagine that many people would consider it a tad bit if not outright stupid to run in an area where park officials advise you to not run for your safety. Then again, we live in a society that requires warning labels advising people to not use hair dryers in showers or bathtubs.


My brother and I did a road cycling climb up My. Seymour in Vancouver last summer.  Saw some signs about bears and because it was early morning, got perhaps a tad worried.

So he turned on some tunes on his phone at top volume.  It's enough that they hear you coming so they can run away.  Especially mama bears.

I do have bear spray on a holster now for such a bike ride if the situation ever arises.
 
2020-07-13 12:13:04 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: UncleDirtNap: Well someone did yell "bear left".

Tangentially related, but this one reminds me of one of the few genuine, "I hate some bastards on bikes!" things.  People that think that zooming up, yelling "On your right!" or whatever in your ear .016 seconds before they slam through the space should be considered perfectly adequate warning.  With those chucklefarks I usually have just enough time to go "Gah!" and jump - half the time the wrong way - whereupon they're swerving and yelling shiat at me.   Yeah, that was totally enough to time even process what the hell you were saying, much less keep out of the way, Speed Racer.  Maybe you shouldn't be letting Chim-Chim drive.

/a lot of the bike hate is bullshiat
//that one drives me farking nuts
///call it farking early people - give us at least a half second or so to know WTF is going on ;p


As a cyclist, I hate that shiat too.

First, in mixed use trails, if there's foot traffic, you don't go fast.  Period.  You can speed up if there's a stretch of trail without people, but otherwise you slow down.  Same with families riding with little kids, dogs, etc.

Why?  Beyond the fact that it's the polite thing to do, you're in just as much danger of getting hurt if somebody gets startled and jumps into your line.

Second, you slow down and you say in a loud but not yelling voice that you'll be passing them on their left.  Those words.  Not "on your left" which sounds like a command, but the actual sentence of "hi. I'll be passing on your left side".  Some people for some reason still get startled (maybe I'm too close when I say it but I'm also going very slowly) but if they jump in the wrong direction I just smile, wait them out and tell them thanks.

I've come across too many people with earbuds these days so I just avoid mixed use trails on a bike unless I'm with my kids.  I take roads with bike lanes or neighborhood streets all the way from my house to work.

There should probably be a 10 mph limit for scooters and bikes on mixed use trails.  Less even.
 
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