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(Comic Book)   40 years after its original release "Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back" is back at the top of the box office   (comicbook.com) divider line
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2020-07-12 6:25:57 AM  
Spaceballs - l am your father [HQ]
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2020-07-12 6:35:12 AM  
After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.
 
2020-07-12 6:35:57 AM  
Bslim:

*shiatshow of the sequels
 
2020-07-12 6:36:22 AM  

Bslim: After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.


If you don't like the prequels, I have some bad news for you about the sequel trilogy...
 
2020-07-12 6:44:52 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: Bslim: After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.

If you don't like the prequels, I have some bad news for you about the sequel trilogy...


:) :)
 
2020-07-12 7:00:28 AM  
Not risking covid for Special Edition Star Wars.
 
2020-07-12 8:38:55 AM  
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You have to be kidding me.
 
2020-07-12 8:58:09 AM  
FAMILY GUY. EMPIRE STRIKES BACK..avi
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2020-07-12 10:09:53 AM  
The Empire Strikes Back was the top-grossing film in North America for eight weeks when it released in 1980.


Amazing how that's unheard of today. For decades, box office has been skewed to the first few weeks and not much is ever #1 much past that.

For example, Avengers:Endgame was only on top for 3 weeks.

You'd probably have to go back to Titanic to find a movie that was #1 for more than 8 weeks, but in the 70s-80s that was the norm for a blockbuster.
 
2020-07-12 10:13:52 AM  
Spaced - Phantom Menace Sucked
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2020-07-12 10:42:59 AM  
I know.
 
2020-07-12 11:29:28 AM  
"Bring my shuttle"

Amazing that they farked that line up in the updated editions.
 
2020-07-12 11:39:21 AM  

Unicron74: "Bring my shuttle"

Amazing that they farked that line up in the updated editions.


Changed to:

"Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival"

EVERYYYYYYTHING wrong with Gerge Lucas in one sentence.

/seriously, F*CK George Lucas, straight up his ass
 
2020-07-12 11:41:33 AM  

Bslim: After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.


As far as my son will be concerned, "the Prequels" will be The Clone Wars Cartoon and Rebels
 
2020-07-12 11:42:53 AM  

Christian Bale: The Empire Strikes Back was the top-grossing film in North America for eight weeks when it released in 1980.


Amazing how that's unheard of today. For decades, box office has been skewed to the first few weeks and not much is ever #1 much past that.

For example, Avengers:Endgame was only on top for 3 weeks.

You'd probably have to go back to Titanic to find a movie that was #1 for more than 8 weeks, but in the 70s-80s that was the norm for a blockbuster.


My parents in the 70s were excited to get an apartment walking distance to a movie theater when they were first married. It showed The Godfather. For a year.
 
2020-07-12 12:21:29 PM  

Bslim: Bslim:

*shiatshow of the sequels



The prequels never made me like the originals less.

The sequels did, and I hate them for that.
 
2020-07-12 12:32:02 PM  

NetOwl: Bslim: Bslim:

*shiatshow of the sequels


The prequels never made me like the originals less.

The sequels did, and I hate them for that.


No, the prequels exposed some blemishes in Star Wars I never really noticed much until after the prequels, especially the first one, the one George directed. Of course the Special Edition stuff really rubbed it in.
 
2020-07-12 12:50:21 PM  

Fano: Bslim: After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.

As far as my son will be concerned, "the Prequels" will be The Clone Wars Cartoon and Rebels


I missed out on "Clone Wars" and "Rebels" when they first aired, I'm looking forward to watching them and "The Mandalorian" now that I have Disney+.
 
2020-07-12 12:52:21 PM  

NetOwl: Bslim: Bslim:

*shiatshow of the sequels


The prequels never made me like the originals less.

The sequels did, and I hate them for that.


The sequel movies are the best Star Wars movies and only women-hating virgins say otherwise.
 
2020-07-12 12:54:39 PM  

Polish Hussar: Fano: Bslim: After the shiatshow of the prequels I need to wait a bit before going back to the film, "cause they are just gonna piss me off.
Clone Wars/Rebels/Mando are my Star Wars for now.

As far as my son will be concerned, "the Prequels" will be The Clone Wars Cartoon and Rebels

I missed out on "Clone Wars" and "Rebels" when they first aired, I'm looking forward to watching them and "The Mandalorian" now that I have Disney+.


Give yourself a treat and watch them.
 
2020-07-12 1:16:08 PM  
I wish i had the courage or the stupidity necessary to enter a public place right now.

(Ooh, Solo's available on Disney Plus.... i should give that one a second chance...)
 
2020-07-12 1:19:10 PM  

Unicron74: "Bring my shuttle"

Amazing that they farked that line up in the updated editions.


It's been a while since I watched them, but I remember noticing that too.

Small tweaks like that are sometimes the most baffling to me.  That was almost a perfect moment -- under the terse command and rapid stride there's loads of subtext in James Earl Jones's line delivery, Vader having watched Luke go down the shaft just minutes before.  Dunno why they changed it.
 
2020-07-12 2:21:25 PM  
Considering the "woke" crowd won't "allow" a movie to be made unless 100% of the actors (ie: people pretending to be someone else) are the actual race of who they are pretending to be, and that all Hollywood
releases any more is part 4,5,6 sequels and reboots, I'm not surprised the older movies are such a hit.
If they really want to stir them up, they should release the UNCUT version of "Blazing Saddles".  That would freak them out LOL.

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2020-07-12 2:41:56 PM  
I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.
 
2020-07-12 3:05:30 PM  

solokumba: I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.


To you it sounds like a bad idea. But to a hardcore Star Wars nerd, catching COVID-19 in a theater offers a chance to beat the odds.

Everyone always said they'd die alone.
 
2020-07-12 3:39:36 PM  

EdgeRunner: solokumba: I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.

To you it sounds like a bad idea. But to a hardcore Star Wars nerd, catching COVID-19 in a theater offers a chance to beat the odds.



Never tell them the odds!
 
2020-07-12 3:49:23 PM  

solokumba: I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.


Most of the theatres that are open are drive ins btw
 
2020-07-12 4:47:24 PM  
Eh, I'm not going to a movie theater until there's a vaccine.

But when there is one, I'd be more willing to pay money to see "Star Wars" and "Empire" on the big screen than yet another super hero movie.
 
2020-07-12 4:48:23 PM  

Christian Bale: The Empire Strikes Back was the top-grossing film in North America for eight weeks when it released in 1980.


Amazing how that's unheard of today. For decades, box office has been skewed to the first few weeks and not much is ever #1 much past that.

For example, Avengers:Endgame was only on top for 3 weeks.

You'd probably have to go back to Titanic to find a movie that was #1 for more than 8 weeks, but in the 70s-80s that was the norm for a blockbuster.


The theaters back in 1980 were smaller with fewer screens and fewer seats - those multiplex 10 screen places started showing up around me not very much later - in the mid 80's.
But the number of screens & seats and the ticket prices and even the internet presales make the entire approach to movie revenue and longevity so much different now.
 
2020-07-12 5:03:25 PM  

p51d007: Considering the "woke" crowd won't "allow" a movie to be made unless 100% of the actors (ie: people pretending to be someone else) are the actual race of who they are pretending to be, and that all Hollywood
releases any more is part 4,5,6 sequels and reboots, I'm not surprised the older movies are such a hit.
If they really want to stir them up, they should release the UNCUT version of "Blazing Saddles".  That would freak them out LOL.

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I can't watch the edited version.
 
2020-07-12 5:49:30 PM  

kbronsito: Not risking covid for Special Edition Star Wars.


We saw it at the drive in, Friday night. We stayed in the car, windows up, and masks on for the one restroom trip. We had fun.
 
2020-07-12 6:28:45 PM  
While I acknowledge that it's probably not the worst Star Wars movie, "Return of the Jedi" will always be the one I despise the most. Why? Because that's where the betrayal took place.

George Lucas didn't like "Empire Strikes Back" very much, in fact he even said:

"We could have made just as much money if Empire hadn't been quite so good... and you hadn't spent so much time." - George Lucas

After "Empire", Lucas became less concerned with telling a good story and more concerned with thrills and feeding the merchandising machine. He thought the Ewoks would sell more merchandise than Wookies, so that dictated what they found on Endor.

Lucas decided to bring in a second Death Star instead of doing something new and creative.

Gary Kurtz, who produced and was partnered with George on the first two movies was fired after "Empire" despite telling Lucas often that the results were worth it and spoke of how Episode VI was planned to go:

The Rebels rescue Han, who then dies a heroic sacrifice (Ford wanted this, didn't get it and as such phone in his performance since Han had little to do in ROTJ). Luke was supposed to defeat Vader and then walk off into the sunset like the man with no name in search of his twin sister... and Leia would have become the queen of the survivors of Alderan and searched for a new home.

Then would have come the original sequel trilogy, where Luke meets his sister and it builds up to a climatic showdown in Episode IX for a showdown with the Emperor.

... which leads me to the worst thing about "Return of the Jedi". The reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings is the laziest, stupidest thing ever written and put to film. It's so lazy and stupid that it's disgusting. There was no foreshadowing, no build-up... it came out of no where. It felt slapped together because it was slapped together. But, most people who like it first saw it when they were eight.

Again, the movies that came after may have been worse, but I don't hate them. I hate this one... the promise of the first movie, the depth of the second... and then this abomination that betrayed what came before. This was when George joined the dark side. Story no longer mattered, character no longer mattered... had to feed the merchandising machine.
 
2020-07-12 6:42:53 PM  

p51d007: Considering the "woke" crowd won't "allow" a movie to be made unless 100% of the actors (ie: people pretending to be someone else) are the actual race of who they are pretending to be, and that all Hollywood
releases any more is part 4,5,6 sequels and reboots, I'm not surprised the older movies are such a hit.
If they really want to stir them up, they should release the UNCUT version of "Blazing Saddles".  That would freak them out LOL.

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2020-07-12 6:48:38 PM  

solokumba: I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.


If it helps, I suspect it's mostly showing at drive ins.
 
2020-07-12 7:01:19 PM  

ViciousX: While I acknowledge that it's probably not the worst Star Wars movie, "Return of the Jedi" will always be the one I despise the most. Why? Because that's where the betrayal took place.

George Lucas didn't like "Empire Strikes Back" very much, in fact he even said:

"We could have made just as much money if Empire hadn't been quite so good... and you hadn't spent so much time." - George Lucas

After "Empire", Lucas became less concerned with telling a good story and more concerned with thrills and feeding the merchandising machine. He thought the Ewoks would sell more merchandise than Wookies, so that dictated what they found on Endor.

Lucas decided to bring in a second Death Star instead of doing something new and creative.

Gary Kurtz, who produced and was partnered with George on the first two movies was fired after "Empire" despite telling Lucas often that the results were worth it and spoke of how Episode VI was planned to go:

The Rebels rescue Han, who then dies a heroic sacrifice (Ford wanted this, didn't get it and as such phone in his performance since Han had little to do in ROTJ). Luke was supposed to defeat Vader and then walk off into the sunset like the man with no name in search of his twin sister... and Leia would have become the queen of the survivors of Alderan and searched for a new home.

Then would have come the original sequel trilogy, where Luke meets his sister and it builds up to a climatic showdown in Episode IX for a showdown with the Emperor.

... which leads me to the worst thing about "Return of the Jedi". The reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings is the laziest, stupidest thing ever written and put to film. It's so lazy and stupid that it's disgusting. There was no foreshadowing, no build-up... it came out of no where. It felt slapped together because it was slapped together. But, most people who like it first saw it when they were eight.

Again, the movies that came after may have been worse, but I don't hate them. I hate this one. ...


You might find SF Debris' "Hero's Journey," "Shadow's Journey," and "Hermit's Journey" video series interesting.  They're a look at the making of the original Star Wars trilogy and the prequel trilogy.  Forgive me if I'm telling you something you already know, but per the "Shadow's Journey," writing "Return of the Jedi" was something of a shiatshow and they grafted Luke's hidden sister onto Leia's character to tie up the "No, there is another" plot thread when there ended up not being enough room in the movie to properly set up a separate character.

Hero's Journey - "Star Wars:  A New Hope"
Shadow's Journey - "Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi"
Hermit's Journey - The prequels
 
2020-07-12 7:22:28 PM  

Thanks for the Meme-ries: p51d007: Considering the "woke" crowd won't "allow" a movie to be made unless 100% of the actors (ie: people pretending to be someone else) are the actual race of who they are pretending to be, and that all Hollywood
releases any more is part 4,5,6 sequels and reboots, I'm not surprised the older movies are such a hit.
If they really want to stir them up, they should release the UNCUT version of "Blazing Saddles".  That would freak them out LOL.

[Fark user image 709x361]

ITS TWUUU.. ITS TWUUUU!

[Fark user image 850x478]


I'm a bit more optimistic that a "Blazing Saddles" type movie could get made today, but mostly I want to say that to me it's hilarious that SR-71 wrote a terrible song about this topic 20 years ago:

SR-71 Politically Correct Live 2001
Youtube vpEeVzG22a4

/The performance was from 2001, the song was released in 2000.  I didn't fail math.
//But I did fail English
///That's unpossible!
 
2020-07-12 7:48:05 PM  

ViciousX: While I acknowledge that it's probably not the worst Star Wars movie, "Return of the Jedi" will always be the one I despise the most. Why? Because that's where the betrayal took place.

George Lucas didn't like "Empire Strikes Back" very much, in fact he even said:

"We could have made just as much money if Empire hadn't been quite so good... and you hadn't spent so much time." - George Lucas

After "Empire", Lucas became less concerned with telling a good story and more concerned with thrills and feeding the merchandising machine. He thought the Ewoks would sell more merchandise than Wookies, so that dictated what they found on Endor.

Lucas decided to bring in a second Death Star instead of doing something new and creative.

Gary Kurtz, who produced and was partnered with George on the first two movies was fired after "Empire" despite telling Lucas often that the results were worth it and spoke of how Episode VI was planned to go:

The Rebels rescue Han, who then dies a heroic sacrifice (Ford wanted this, didn't get it and as such phone in his performance since Han had little to do in ROTJ). Luke was supposed to defeat Vader and then walk off into the sunset like the man with no name in search of his twin sister... and Leia would have become the queen of the survivors of Alderan and searched for a new home.

Then would have come the original sequel trilogy, where Luke meets his sister and it builds up to a climatic showdown in Episode IX for a showdown with the Emperor.

... which leads me to the worst thing about "Return of the Jedi". The reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings is the laziest, stupidest thing ever written and put to film. It's so lazy and stupid that it's disgusting. There was no foreshadowing, no build-up... it came out of no where. It felt slapped together because it was slapped together. But, most people who like it first saw it when they were eight.

Again, the movies that came after may have been worse, but I don't hate them. I hate this one... the promise of the first movie, the depth of the second... and then this abomination that betrayed what came before. This was when George joined the dark side. Story no longer mattered, character no longer mattered... had to feed the merchandising machine.


Empire is boring.  Slow and boring and it has plenty of bad decisions.
Lucas was right in a lot of ways but shortsighted with how he tied everything up.  If Kurtz and Kasdan stayed on and made Jedi the same way as Empire, together they would have undone A New Hope, and Star Wars would be altogether forgettable now.  So forget about betrayal.  Jedi had to be the way it was.

Jedi made story mistakes but the three separate action sequences that move seamlessly together in both action and tone was the height of every single movie in the series and probably the best story & action execution in any action movie ever.  It would have helped if one of those groups didn't rely on ewoks throwing rocks at armored troopers.
 
2020-07-12 8:09:19 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: ViciousX: While I acknowledge that it's probably not the worst Star Wars movie, "Return of the Jedi" will always be the one I despise the most. Why? Because that's where the betrayal took place.

George Lucas didn't like "Empire Strikes Back" very much, in fact he even said:

"We could have made just as much money if Empire hadn't been quite so good... and you hadn't spent so much time." - George Lucas

After "Empire", Lucas became less concerned with telling a good story and more concerned with thrills and feeding the merchandising machine. He thought the Ewoks would sell more merchandise than Wookies, so that dictated what they found on Endor.

Lucas decided to bring in a second Death Star instead of doing something new and creative.

Gary Kurtz, who produced and was partnered with George on the first two movies was fired after "Empire" despite telling Lucas often that the results were worth it and spoke of how Episode VI was planned to go:

The Rebels rescue Han, who then dies a heroic sacrifice (Ford wanted this, didn't get it and as such phone in his performance since Han had little to do in ROTJ). Luke was supposed to defeat Vader and then walk off into the sunset like the man with no name in search of his twin sister... and Leia would have become the queen of the survivors of Alderan and searched for a new home.

Then would have come the original sequel trilogy, where Luke meets his sister and it builds up to a climatic showdown in Episode IX for a showdown with the Emperor.

... which leads me to the worst thing about "Return of the Jedi". The reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings is the laziest, stupidest thing ever written and put to film. It's so lazy and stupid that it's disgusting. There was no foreshadowing, no build-up... it came out of no where. It felt slapped together because it was slapped together. But, most people who like it first saw it when they were eight.

Again, the movies that came after may have been worse, but I don't hate them. I hate ...


"Jedi" was the way it had to be. Then this franchise isn't and has never been for me. Because I've seen what "Star Wars" became after following in the footsteps of "Jedi" and it's nothing I found entertaining. Sigh, the promise of the first movie, the depth of the second... then it fizzles out to become a toy advertisement and a toy advertisement only. I firmly believe that Kurtz and Kasdan would have made a better movie, because they already did.

Sigh... well, I'll go watch "The Lord of the Rings" again. Hands down the best film trilogy (and I love the books even more) and it's not even close. You can keep your secret twin siblings.
 
2020-07-12 8:44:43 PM  

physt: solokumba: I'm not going to a god damn theater for ANY movie. Jesus Christ people are being idiots.

If it helps, I suspect it's mostly showing at drive ins.


That's where I saw it on a marquee.

Right below Flea Market every Saturday.

Were drive-in theaters always low class cess pools or is it just because they're one step away from extinction?
 
2020-07-12 10:00:41 PM  

Polish Hussar: Thanks for the Meme-ries: p51d007: Considering the "woke" crowd won't "allow" a movie to be made unless 100% of the actors (ie: people pretending to be someone else) are the actual race of who they are pretending to be, and that all Hollywood
releases any more is part 4,5,6 sequels and reboots, I'm not surprised the older movies are such a hit.
If they really want to stir them up, they should release the UNCUT version of "Blazing Saddles".  That would freak them out LOL.

[Fark user image 709x361]

ITS TWUUU.. ITS TWUUUU!

[Fark user image 850x478]

I'm a bit more optimistic that a "Blazing Saddles" type movie could get made today, but mostly I want to say that to me it's hilarious that SR-71 wrote a terrible song about this topic 20 years ago:

[YouTube video: SR-71 Politically Correct Live 2001]
/The performance was from 2001, the song was released in 2000.  I didn't fail math.
//But I did fail English
///That's unpossible!


I'm ashamed to say I bought that album.

The most embarrassing part of the song is when he says he watched Blazing Saddles yesterday and sings the lyric like that's some big shocking secret. Oh boy. You watched a movie. That's widely agreed to be among the greatest ever made and no one's really mad about it or anything. You rebel. Congrats.
 
2020-07-12 10:11:43 PM  
Remember when you could say "Star Wars" and everyone knew which movie you meant?
 
2020-07-12 10:13:40 PM  

ViciousX: ... which leads me to the worst thing about "Return of the Jedi". The reveal that Luke and Leia are siblings is the laziest, stupidest thing ever written and put to film. It's so lazy and stupid that it's disgusting. There was no foreshadowing, no build-up... it came out of no where. It felt slapped together because it was slapped together. But, most people who like it first saw it when they were eight.


I don't agree 100%, but it's important to acknowledge reality when the fanboys scream that Lucas's trilogies were magnificent and perfect, while the new one doesn't measure up.  (The Rey Trilogy is my favorite of the three.)

I wasn't around in 1983, but i have an older friend who described Return of the Jedi as a huge letdown, initially, for adult fans at least.  He was expecting answers about why Darth Vader turned to the Dark Side and who he was before; who the Emperor was and how he came to power; he expected a cool twist, like that Vader was a clone of the real Anakin and Luke was a clone as well, and that the real Anakin was alive somewhere -- why else mention "the Clone Wars" and have a copy of Luke's face under Vader's mask on Dagobah?  He thought that Boba Fett would have a pivotal part to play, and might even be Luke's mother?

He got none of that.  He got Jabba's Palace, Ewoks, and a tidy, contrived ending.

But, in the long run, it is what it is.

Now, everyone loves Return of the Jedi, and I'll see people list Revenge of the Sith as one of their favorite movies.  Which is why I'm very confident in predicting that The Rise of Skywalker will be a beloved movie in a few years's time.  To me, it already is.

The fandom is deranged.  Rey Skywalker is here to stay, kids.
 
2020-07-12 10:52:27 PM  

skyotter: Remember when you could say "Star Wars" and everyone knew which movie you meant?


That ship has left the port, sir or madam.
 
2020-07-13 2:22:38 AM  
I thought Rogue One was a pretty damn good Star Wars movie, because it brought back the fear of the empire that we felt in '77.   No cute teddy bears or talking stoner frogs.  The space scenes are approaching realism and Darth Vader got to Darth Vader a bunch of people.   And the ending at the beginning of everything made my day.
 
2020-07-13 7:32:57 AM  

Socrofece: i should give that one a second chance...)


you should it is a fun movie. Probably closer to what SW movies should be, fun
 
2020-07-13 8:36:28 AM  
Disney may have taken a hit when Solo underperformed, but... in the end, it might be for the greater good.  I'm confident that The Mandalorian is going to be way better than the generic Boba Fett movie that we'd have gotten if Solo was a blockbuster.

The Obi-wan series will be better than a single Obi-Wan prequel movie.

And now they're bringing back characters from Rebels?  Sheeeet, Disney Plus got me slaved and i like it.
 
2020-07-13 1:21:11 PM  

Christian Bale: The Empire Strikes Back was the top-grossing film in North America for eight weeks when it released in 1980.


Amazing how that's unheard of today. For decades, box office has been skewed to the first few weeks and not much is ever #1 much past that.

For example, Avengers:Endgame was only on top for 3 weeks.

You'd probably have to go back to Titanic to find a movie that was #1 for more than 8 weeks, but in the 70s-80s that was the norm for a blockbuster.


They release a LOT more movies these days than they did back in the early 80s.
 
2020-07-13 1:41:07 PM  

Socrofece: Now, everyone loves Return of the Jedi, and I'll see people list Revenge of the Sith as one of their favorite movies. Which is why I'm very confident in predicting that The Rise of Skywalker will be a beloved movie in a few years's time. To me, it already is.

The fandom is deranged.


I don't agree with your first statement, but it's excellent proof of the second one. Just not the way you intended.
 
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