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2020-07-11 11:54:18 AM  
Begun, the potassium wars have.
 
2020-07-11 11:55:38 AM  
Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.
 
2020-07-11 11:57:55 AM  
Very nice.
 
2020-07-11 11:59:08 AM  
Good.
 
2020-07-11 11:59:33 AM  
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Very proud of my sister. She is No. 4 epidemiologist in all of Kazakhstan!
 
2020-07-11 12:02:12 PM  
Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...
 
2020-07-11 12:03:36 PM  

rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...


Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.
 
2020-07-11 12:06:57 PM  
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2020-07-11 12:09:48 PM  

rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...


Chinese crap fall apart after short run. This virus made in Soviet tank factory, very strong
 
2020-07-11 12:10:07 PM  

Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.


Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them
 
2020-07-11 12:10:28 PM  
This thread needs some gypsy wizard sleeve references just to get it over with
 
2020-07-11 12:10:41 PM  

hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.


Sounds like Kazakhstan needs some protection. For their own benefit.
 
2020-07-11 12:12:17 PM  

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2020-07-11 12:14:33 PM  
They pulled this knowledge out of their anoose.
 
2020-07-11 12:18:06 PM  

Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.


Hey, whenever I make a bioweapon, I avoid targeting my enemy directly as that would be too obvious. Instead I make it of the viral variety then infect my own population first so they can spread it world-wide in a random fashion. And the best thing is, no one ever figures out my evil plans. Except internet conspiracy theorists. Man, those guys are smart.
 
2020-07-11 12:20:11 PM  

hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.


That is what I think is going on in Kazakhstan.  Their president is kind of Trumpish, and they do not have many resources to begin with.  This is either Chinese diplomats who do not understand it is the Rona or they are trying to force a neighbor to deal with their health crises.
 
2020-07-11 12:33:26 PM  
Who to believe?
a) Kazakhstan government
b) China's government?
I'll go with c) none of the above.
 
2020-07-11 12:33:40 PM  

hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.


To be honest, it's not impossible for there to be another pandemic of a pneumonia causing illness that is causing as many deaths as COVID-19. The simplest way to find out is test everybody, if people who are negative are dying of pneumonia in large numbers, then you have proof that this agent might exist.

Occam, however, says it's the 'rona.
 
2020-07-11 12:40:47 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: To be honest, it's not impossible for there to be another pandemic of a pneumonia causing illness that is causing as many deaths as COVID-19. The simplest way to find out is test everybody, if people who are negative are dying of pneumonia in large numbers, then you have proof that this agent might exist.


STOP RIGHT THERE! You do not want to test everybody! That only make trouble and makes the case count go up. Terrible! Best thing to do it not do any testing at all, that way there will be no cases.

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Occam, however, says it's the 'rona.

No one listens to that guy anyway. We prefer explanations by noted philosopher Goldberg, Rube.
 
2020-07-11 12:43:21 PM  

hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them.


Why not ? In a country where automobile accidents and falling out a window are caused by the covid it should be done .
 
2020-07-11 12:46:55 PM  

rcain: Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.

Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them



This isn't right, the chinese reformed their market regulations a few months ago in response to the covid.
 
2020-07-11 12:48:30 PM  
Do I believe the gov't of Kazakhstan or the gov't of China? Why not neither?
 
2020-07-11 12:51:42 PM  
I think it's just China trying to drum up attention on something other than their own problems. They had held themselves up as a model for how to beat this thing and then another wave (probably from Chinese returning from overseas like they claimed) popped up in Beijing and was not contained the same way. Plus Hong Kong and their rift with Canada, the growing border war with India (another nuclear power with an aircraft carrier) and a Taiwan buying advanced weapon systems from the US, and possible crackdowns on mineral extraction by Australia on top of the trade war with the US.
 
2020-07-11 12:56:32 PM  
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i dunno came to mind
 
2020-07-11 1:02:51 PM  
US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.
 
2020-07-11 1:04:37 PM  
Okay... that's enough of the China virus conspiracy nonsense...
 
2020-07-11 1:08:47 PM  

pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.


Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?
 
2020-07-11 1:08:58 PM  

hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.


My wife is a nurse and they have lots of pneumonia patients (more than normal) but they are repeatedly coming up negative to Covid-19. Pneumonia is caused by several viruses, bacteria, and fungus and is super common.

It could just be a bad year for it as well.
 
2020-07-11 1:10:49 PM  
Another one? *falls asleep* Wake me in 2[022.
 
2020-07-11 1:13:31 PM  

Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?


It passed that point months ago.

We are now at the point of people just stopping what they are doing and laughing or sobbing hysterically...  because there isn't a farking thing that can be done at this point... at least in the US.

/Most of the rest of us actually have this farking thing under some semblence of control...
 
2020-07-11 1:13:41 PM  

Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?


I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.
 
2020-07-11 1:15:38 PM  
Populist authoritarian "tough guys" are pretty much identical all over the world, aren't they?
 
2020-07-11 1:30:45 PM  

rcain: Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.

Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them


All that flies in the face of your earlier statement which implied it was "created" in a lab. Not something that arose (again) by mixing blood from various mammals in terrible slaughter areas the size of small towns.

It's been studied and the general conclusion is that the virus is too good to have been made in a lab.

Goes along with that whole "Intelligent Design" thing, huh?
 
2020-07-11 1:32:28 PM  
I'm inclined to guess that COVID has mutated, and it's starting in Kazakhstan.
 
2020-07-11 1:32:30 PM  
And now some woman in Oregon just claimed that a giant red caterpillar ate her horse.
 
2020-07-11 1:32:35 PM  

pup.socket: Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?

I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.


Some schmuck laughing at you in a mask months ago before any of this started does not imply that everyone else is laughing. Certainly not now.
 
2020-07-11 1:40:43 PM  

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The one in pink might more fitted bottoms to that bikini.....
 
2020-07-11 1:48:38 PM  

rcain: Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.

Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them


Do you have a mirror installed for backpedaling this hard? Own up to your previous bullshiat inference and stop pretending you were making some geopolitical point, or shut up.
 
2020-07-11 1:53:50 PM  

Wendigogo: pup.socket: Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?

I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.

Some schmuck laughing at you in a mask months ago before any of this started does not imply that everyone else is laughing. Certainly not now.


I'm glad someone is finding my posts funny. I guess it's better than crying

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2020-07-11 1:55:42 PM  
Don't know about any new pneumonia, but I was in Kazakhstan when they got their first reported cases of Covid-19 and the response was swift and thorough. They shut everything down nationwide except for essential businesses within three days of the initial confirmed cases, made older folks stay at home, younger folks had to stay within half a kilometer of home, mask requirements, no more than one person other than the driver in a taxi, 25% capacity on buses (far short of their standard way of exceeding capacity by a lot) and closing down the airport- which came as a huge surprise when I went to get my scheduled flight out of Kazakhstan.

They did far more to try to contain spread than any state or federal response that happened here in the US, despite what any jackass in D.C. tries to tell you.
 
2020-07-11 2:07:06 PM  
Gypsy, how is this R0 you have shrunk?
 
2020-07-11 2:08:11 PM  

Wendigogo: pup.socket: Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?

I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.

Some schmuck laughing at you in a mask months ago before any of this started does not imply that everyone else is laughing. Certainly not now.


Not too bright are you? This stuff was here before February it just wasn't reported because of Trump. Farkers knew about it long before nonFarkers. News media knew of it but didn't report it. Everything i knew about this came from Fark long before I heard anything about it on the T.V. or radio news.
 
2020-07-11 2:34:36 PM  

WTFDYW: Wendigogo: pup.socket: Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?

I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.

Some schmuck laughing at you in a mask months ago before any of this started does not imply that everyone else is laughing. Certainly not now.

Not too bright are you? This stuff was here before February it just wasn't reported because of Trump. Farkers knew about it long before nonFarkers. News media knew of it but didn't report it. Everything i knew about this came from Fark long before I heard anything about it on the T.V. or radio news.


Apparently you aren't either. Fark is a freaking news aggregate. I'm going to go ahead and let that thought sink into your tiny brain.
 
2020-07-11 2:37:07 PM  

rcain: Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.

Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them


Some good points, but I'd like to tweak your cause-effect a bit.

Have you ever worked around ethnic Chinese of the "Salt of the Earth" class? I haven't directly, but I know someone quite well who has, for decades. Per that guy, they are some of the stubbornest and most culturally conservative people on Earth. They share this characteristic with many other Asians, from Vietnam to Thailand, and Cambodia.

In the same way that the Maeklong Railway in Thailand has to literally crawl (with 6" clearance on both sides) through a street market whose merchants and customers refuse to relocate, and several Chinese home owners who have or once had homes in the middle of goddamned freeways because they refused to sell and relocate, China has wet markets because the farking Chinese "lower" classes want their wet markets. And, short of flattening them with tanks and shooting a few hundred thousand scofflaws, there is little that the Chinese Communist Party can do about it. Traditional Chinese Medicine? The CCP has been trying to get rid of it for decades, with zero traction.

The inertia of a billion people is hard to overcome.
 
2020-07-11 2:45:17 PM  
Is this the nation where everyone wears unitards?
 
2020-07-11 2:45:40 PM  

Begoggle: Populist authoritarian "tough guys" are pretty much identical all over the world, aren't they?


It's not like they have the brains or creativity to be innovative in any way. This sort of leadership pattern is so old it's almost an instinct.
 
2020-07-11 2:50:49 PM  

Wendigogo: WTFDYW: Wendigogo: pup.socket: Wendigogo: pup.socket: US laughing at nations for mishandling the 'rona 'pydemic?

Well, ain't that rich.

Who is laughing? When did any of this become funny?

I was laughed at in February for wearing a mask. So, it appears it was funny from the very beginning.

Some schmuck laughing at you in a mask months ago before any of this started does not imply that everyone else is laughing. Certainly not now.

Not too bright are you? This stuff was here before February it just wasn't reported because of Trump. Farkers knew about it long before nonFarkers. News media knew of it but didn't report it. Everything i knew about this came from Fark long before I heard anything about it on the T.V. or radio news.

Apparently you aren't either. Fark is a freaking news aggregate. I'm going to go ahead and let that thought sink into your tiny brain.


Perhaps I spend more time on Fark.com than I thought.
 
2020-07-11 2:56:18 PM  

Intrepid00: hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.

My wife is a nurse and they have lots of pneumonia patients (more than normal) but they are repeatedly coming up negative to Covid-19. Pneumonia is caused by several viruses, bacteria, and fungus and is super common.

It could just be a bad year for it as well.


Another explanation is plausible:

The test kits were manufactured by the lowest bidder and due to an issue in the manufacturing process that would cause national panic if disclosed, they've been keeping the test kit issues under wraps.

Far more people may actually be infected if my hunch is correct.
 
2020-07-11 3:28:10 PM  

Harlee: rcain: Nurglitch: rcain: Pretty sure the Chinese know a virus when they make one...

Dude, enough of that silly 'Chinese bio-weapon' stuff.

Did I say bio-weapon stuff?

And let's be real effing honest here, virus after virus keep coming out of China because they flat out refuse to modernize their livestock markets and keep these archaic "open air markets" with all sorts of animals crammed together and literally creating new viruses as they hop from bat to pig to human, over and over again
And it doesn't matter to them, they don't give a crap about how many people die, because the Chinese Government and in fact the Chinese culture doesn't give a crap about people. They are as expendable as ants. And this shiat will keep going on until the international community grows some farking balls and forces China to change. But so far everyone seems more than happy to let China do their thing, because it's become increasingly clear that China is in charge of the global economy, and our "leaders" put the profits of their wealthy corporate backers before all else

So until something happens and our Governments take a meaningful stand, possibly even going to war with China over this crap, then yes, China will keep making virus after virus and infecting the rest of the world with them

Some good points, but I'd like to tweak your cause-effect a bit.

Have you ever worked around ethnic Chinese of the "Salt of the Earth" class? I haven't directly, but I know someone quite well who has, for decades. Per that guy, they are some of the stubbornest and most culturally conservative people on Earth. They share this characteristic with many other Asians, from Vietnam to Thailand, and Cambodia.

In the same way that the Maeklong Railway in Thailand has to literally crawl (with 6" clearance on both sides) through a street market whose merchants and customers refuse to relocate, and several Chinese home owners who have or once had homes in the middle of goddamned freeways because they refused to sell and relocate, China has wet markets because the farking Chinese "lower" classes want their wet markets. And, short of flattening them with tanks and shooting a few hundred thousand scofflaws, there is little that the Chinese Communist Party can do about it. Traditional Chinese Medicine? The CCP has been trying to get rid of it for decades, with zero traction.

The inertia of a billion people is hard to overcome.


The worst of these problems have been occurring in wildlife markets with animals imported from multiple locations abroad.

Look online and see if you can find a converted price list for these. They're expensive even by American standards. Wildlife wet markets are serving conspicuous consumption for the Chinese upper classes - not food for the billion peasants.
 
2020-07-11 3:41:20 PM  

baronbloodbath: Intrepid00: hissatsu: Unknown pneumonia? Weird. We've got several states in the US with far more pneumonia deaths that usual. It's definitely not the 'rona. No, you can't test them. They're already dead, what good would it do? You'll just have to take my word for it that it's not the 'rona.

/Narrator: It was the 'rona.

My wife is a nurse and they have lots of pneumonia patients (more than normal) but they are repeatedly coming up negative to Covid-19. Pneumonia is caused by several viruses, bacteria, and fungus and is super common.

It could just be a bad year for it as well.

Another explanation is plausible:

The test kits were manufactured by the lowest bidder and due to an issue in the manufacturing process that would cause national panic if disclosed, they've been keeping the test kit issues under wraps.

Far more people may actually be infected if my hunch is correct.


I'm pretty sure if it was Contaminated test we would have more positives.
 
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