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(National Review)   Joe Biden takes the ruler to the nuns: You'd better believe I'll make you account for contraception if I'm elected   (nationalreview.com) divider line
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2020-07-09 5:17:46 PM  
I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.
 
2020-07-09 5:20:38 PM  

pueblonative: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.


If getting pregnant is the will of god, then so is your limp dick. Deal with it.
 
2020-07-09 5:26:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: pueblonative: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.

If getting pregnant is the will of god, then so is your limp dick. Deal with it.


But if you outlaw viagra then, to get hard, they'll need to watch that porn they don't want their wives to know about
 
2020-07-09 5:50:08 PM  
Change the wording.  Call it hormone treatment and put it under the same umbrella as other body regulating drugs like SSRI's or statins.  State that health coverage has to cover it equally or not at all.  Or, if you want to make it really fun, call them "reproductive regulatory assistance" and include it with viagra and do the same thing.

Pin federal funding for everything (even beyond healthcare) into this.  Most of the states that want these laws are takers anyway...

I know more women who take birth control primarily for menstrual regulation than I do who take it primarily as birth control.

/yes, that's anecdotal, but still.
 
2020-07-09 5:51:48 PM  
If your company is owned by scientologists. Will they get a pass on paying for antidepressants and vaccines for health ins?

How about 7th day adventists...where they'd basically not cover anything but the snake?
 
2020-07-09 10:28:01 PM  
a political science professor

So you flunked out of art history?
 
2020-07-09 10:28:16 PM  

pueblonative: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.


National Review is more likely to be for letting birth control pills go over-the-counter.
 
2020-07-09 10:45:32 PM  
Great, you're somehow going to turn over a supreme court ruling. That's not how it works.
 
2020-07-09 11:36:49 PM  
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2020-07-09 11:55:11 PM  

Mugato: a political science professor

So you flunked out of art history?


Politics Isn't even a science. It's an art, and usually poorly executed.
 
2020-07-10 12:08:06 AM  
"Little Sisters of the Poor, an order of Catholic nuns that provide care to the elderly"

We sure don't need any pregnant 80 year olds. Or nuns either. Or 80 year old nuns.
 
2020-07-10 12:25:07 AM  
Hey, how about a public option?

Then the nuns or the snake handlers or whoever is running Hobby Lobby these days can sleep well.

/frkkers.
 
2020-07-10 12:45:41 AM  

edmo: [i.imgflip.com image 850x356]


Cause of the history of them getting raped.
 
2020-07-10 12:46:27 AM  

zobear: Hey, how about a public option?

Then the nuns or the snake handlers or whoever is running Hobby Lobby these days can sleep well.

/frkkers.


They'll sue because their tax dollars would be funding birth control and abortion.

No matter what the government does, someone will sue over it.
 
2020-07-10 12:51:08 AM  
I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.

Be realistic: the Koch Brothers are about to become Christian Scientists.  No health care benefits that way. 

I just want to see the SNL skit where a youthful Joe Biden educates the nuns with yardstick, chalkboard eraser and chalk.
 
2020-07-10 12:52:47 AM  

nicholas m schumacher: edmo: [i.imgflip.com image 850x356]

Cause of the history of them getting raped.


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2020-07-10 12:53:47 AM  

edmo: [i.imgflip.com image 850x356]


You haven't seen enough of the Tinto Brass style 70s European softcore. The nuns are always the ones that need birth control.
 
2020-07-10 12:53:54 AM  

Omnivorous: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.

Be realistic: the Koch Brothers are about to become Christian Scientists.  No health care benefits that way. 

I just want to see the SNL skit where a youthful Joe Biden educates the nuns with yardstick, chalkboard eraser and chalk.


Ew. Yikes.

Also, you know that Catholic Nuns really have no power within the church, right?
 
2020-07-10 12:56:06 AM  

jaylectricity: Great, you're somehow going to turn over a supreme court ruling. That's not how it works.


It works that way if you first appoint 6 additional liberal judges. If the Dems also take the senate, they can kill the filibuster and start ramming through all kinds of crazy stuff. When the red state AGs start refusing to enforce the new laws, that's when things will start to get really spicy. Should be fun to watch unfold until the shooting starts.
 
2020-07-10 12:58:54 AM  

GrinzGrimly: jaylectricity: Great, you're somehow going to turn over a supreme court ruling. That's not how it works.

It works that way if you first appoint 6 additional liberal judges. If the Dems also take the senate, they can kill the filibuster and start ramming through all kinds of crazy stuff. When the red state AGs start refusing to enforce the new laws, that's when things will start to get really spicy. Should be fun to watch unfold until the shooting starts.


Horse hockey.  No one starts shooting when life gets BETTER.  And that's what will happen if birth control is easier to get.
 
2020-07-10 12:59:04 AM  
Only nuns i care about....

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2020-07-10 1:02:17 AM  
I also found this gem on the article linked in this post.  They misspelled "Cognitive" as "Cognative"
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2020-07-10 1:05:31 AM  
THIS is what keeps planned parenthood open and the donations flowing in.  Keep denying women reproductive rights and we will fight back.

Where's my checkbook?
 
2020-07-10 1:09:18 AM  
M4A. End all the nonsense. Medical Insurance can no longer be tied to an employer.
 
2020-07-10 1:12:14 AM  

Outshined_One: zobear: Hey, how about a public option?

Then the nuns or the snake handlers or whoever is running Hobby Lobby these days can sleep well.

/frkkers.

They'll sue because their tax dollars would be funding birth control and abortion.

No matter what the government does, someone will sue over it.


Nuns don't pay taxes. Snake handlers? Maybe...
 
2020-07-10 1:16:02 AM  

jaylectricity: Great, you're somehow going to turn over a supreme court ruling. That's not how it works.


The ruling was on the legality of an executive order, pay more attention.
 
2020-07-10 1:25:28 AM  

optikeye: If your company is owned by scientologists. Will they get a pass on paying for antidepressants and vaccines for health ins?

How about 7th day adventists...where they'd basically not cover anything but the snake?


I think 7th Day Adventists have pretty mainstream views on healthcare? At least, the community I knew did. Other than that, I agree with your comment.
 
2020-07-10 1:27:38 AM  
The religious and the Catholic Church love to be the ones that can only help you, because you need to follow their rules in order to get their help.

Not that it tends to really increase their ranks, it just forces people to attend sermons when they really don't want to, and then immediately stop when they don't need the help anymore.

The church likes to do this both because it's much easier to indoctrinate the destitute and desperate, and because those people really have no choice... they either go along with the steps or they starve to death.

The church, as pious as they should be, really hate the idea of any other organization getting a foothold on helping the poor and needy, because otherwise the church can no longer push their ways onto desperate people.
 
2020-07-10 1:42:23 AM  
but the decision did not address whether the mandate is itself a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

It is, but apparently the Democrats need another ass-handing by the Court before they'll see that.
 
2020-07-10 1:54:38 AM  

jjorsett: but the decision did not address whether the mandate is itself a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

It is, but apparently the Democrats need another ass-handing by the Court before they'll see that.


You are free to practice religion however you like, and it's still others' choices to follow that religion. Forcing the needy to follow your religion to get help is a shiatty mandate, by shiatty people in a shiatty religion that are supposedly the religion of tolerance, peace and giving.

No, seriously... if your religion holds its bullshiat edicts above actually helping people... then let other organizations help them and walk away. Otherwise they're not helping, they're indoctrinating people with the reward of not dying... which is about as shiatty as you can get.
 
2020-07-10 2:17:39 AM  
Choose wisely, Sisters...

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2020-07-10 2:30:27 AM  

jjorsett: but the decision did not address whether the mandate is itself a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

It is, but apparently the Democrats need another ass-handing by the Court before they'll see that.


Trump is the one who does the ass-handing, as Ivanka well knows.
 
2020-07-10 2:32:20 AM  

HighOnCraic: Choose wisely, Sisters...

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When Trumpkins go after Joe for sniffing hair and all that shiat, it's a confession, too.
 
2020-07-10 2:50:51 AM  

GypsyJoker: edmo: [i.imgflip.com image 850x356]

You haven't seen enough of the Tinto Brass style 70s European softcore. The nuns are always the ones that need birth control.


Nunsploitation: https://www.imdb.com/​list/ls000091073/

Happy fapping
 
2020-07-10 2:55:52 AM  

jjorsett: but the decision did not address whether the mandate is itself a violation of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act

It is, but apparently the Democrats need another ass-handing by the Court before they'll see that.


Feel free to point out where in any part of the Christian bible it says that women are to be denied medical access, or, for that matter, that abortion is something to be opposed.
 
2020-07-10 3:06:31 AM  

edmo: [i.imgflip.com image 850x356]


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2020-07-10 3:11:12 AM  
I don't care if you are talking about Nuns, female Mormon missionaries, a baptist choir director, or kids working at the hobby lobby or a Christian Bookstore.  Their employers insurance should absolutely provide them with birth control and reproductive healthcare if they feel like they need it, and their privacy in doing so should be a hundred percent shielded so that their employer can not find out that they are using birth control, because it is not their employer's damn business.

Oh, and I realize Mormon Missionaries are not employed, but their church gives them health care, so contraceptive should be covered privately and discretely, because I know of a lot of Mormon girls that got pregnant on their Mormon missions.  There have also been countless documentation of cases where young nuns got pregnant and the Catholic church punished them for it.  Hell, some nuns do volunteer work in prisons and war zones, they may want to take birth control just in case someone forces them into a bad situation.
 
2020-07-10 3:17:44 AM  

quiotu: The religious and the Catholic Church love to be the ones that can only help you, because you need to follow their rules in order to get their help.

Not that it tends to really increase their ranks, it just forces people to attend sermons when they really don't want to, and then immediately stop when they don't need the help anymore.

The church likes to do this both because it's much easier to indoctrinate the destitute and desperate, and because those people really have no choice... they either go along with the steps or they starve to death.

The church, as pious as they should be, really hate the idea of any other organization getting a foothold on helping the poor and needy, because otherwise the church can no longer push their ways onto desperate people.


It's just not the Catholic Church.  I also think they hate having governments and non-religious NGOs get involved, because a lot of time those groups reveal how piss poor a job the religious groups are doing taking care of the poor and needy.

Take shelters for example.  The majority of homeless shelters are operated by religious groups in this country.  Shelters are a half ass solution to trying to fix homelessness.  Yes, there is always going to be a place for them, but the real solution is stable long term housing.  Governments get involved, governments start giving housing alliances and getting people into cheap apartments and motel rooms long term, and then hook them up with job placement programs. This costs a whole lot more money than a shelter, but it saves the state more money in the long run.  Then when you realize how many billions of dollars the churches have that they were not spending, they kind of start to look bad.
 
2020-07-10 4:39:49 AM  
Conservatives: "protect the sanctity of the church!"
*Trump teargasses a rector out of a church so he can wave around an upside down Bible for a photo-op*
Conservatives: "...Libs are all Atheists!"
 
2020-07-10 4:40:07 AM  
I read the comments, Ray. For a minute.

apparently, as a man, I'm forced to take birth control of I have insurance in this country. At least that seems to be what conservatives believe.
 
2020-07-10 5:07:57 AM  

jaylectricity: Great, you're somehow going to turn over a supreme court ruling. That's not how it works.


Yes it is, read the ruling. The ruling didn't require the exception, it simply allowed it.
 
2020-07-10 5:17:26 AM  

pueblonative: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.


Birth control should be safe, cheap and available fo everyone.
I just fail to see how these two are equivalent.
 
2020-07-10 6:14:52 AM  
NRO: Another sewer of conservative propaganda. "BIDEN WANTS TO FORCE NUNS TO BUY ABORTION PILLS!" Actually, no. No he doesn't. But your idiot readers will believe it if you write it.
 
2020-07-10 6:55:16 AM  
Already done by Obama.
 
2020-07-10 7:19:52 AM  

I_told_you_so: M4A. End all the nonsense. Medical Insurance can no longer be tied to an employer.


Obvious solution is obvious. But medicare for all can't cut checks to politicians, so....
 
2020-07-10 7:20:06 AM  

pueblonative: I'm just waiting for the first company to morally object to viagra for nro heads to explode.


I want a company to ban PRep and other AIDS drugs
That will cause a lot  of drama.
 
2020-07-10 8:23:06 AM  
What about having free birth control with every health insurance policy? Like breadsticks at Olive Garden. They're free with a meal. Eat them or not, doesn't change the bill. Yes I know. The money isn't the real objection. Its that birth control is an actual thing at all.
 
2020-07-10 8:26:54 AM  
If I'm the CEO and I don't want my company's insurance to cover contraceptives for purely secular reasons, I wouldn't be allowed to do that.  But if I say it's for religions convictions, then it's fine.  Why does the religious rationale get a pass?  How is that not unconstitutional?  How does infringing on somebody's bodily autonomy become acceptable because somebody else believes something supernatural (but only if it's supernatural, and it can be anything supernatural)?
 
2020-07-10 10:10:47 AM  
Here is the argument in terms simple enough for a conservative to understand:

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2020-07-10 12:20:45 PM  
Didn't the SCOTUS (TUCHUS/SCOUTS/etc.) Rule in their favor on this a couple days ago?
 
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