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(CNN)   If you've been drinking your hand sanitizer, you might want to know that the FDA is warning consumers about 55 varieties that contain toxic wood alcohol. If you can't read this headline, it might already be too late   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-07-09 2:36:27 PM  
Kitty Dukakis's bartender's guide could help you with that.

or not.
 
2020-07-09 4:05:08 PM  
Indeed, I was at the supermarket last week and they had quart bottles of some sketchy-looking hand sanitizer.
I checked the ingredients and it just listed "alcohol".
Well fine, but what kind?
Eth, meth, or IPA?
It also didn't list concentration.
 
2020-07-09 5:39:16 PM  
We got this hand sanitizer at work made from ethanol and it smells like ass.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
 
2020-07-09 5:40:27 PM  
Protip: use it on your hands, don't drink it
 
2020-07-09 5:41:16 PM  
Drinking ethanol will slow down the metabolism of methanol, but this is no excuse to chug down a bottle of bourbon.
 
2020-07-09 5:43:05 PM  
Why are people drinking sanitizer?

Oh yeah.  I remember why..
 
2020-07-09 5:44:17 PM  
Walmart had a gallon bottle of sanitizer with a pump by the front doors. I had just been in the store touching things and wanted to sanitize. I pumped it. A ginormous glob of slimy goo shot out at high velocity and completely coated my hand. I mean, we're talking a few ounces of the stuff in one pump. Enough to fill one of those tiny pocket bottles of sanitizer.

The stuff smelled like a poor drunkard. It didn't evaporate when rubbed in, either. It remained this slimy coating on my skin. I felt like I'd been cleaning the floors of an adult bookstore with my bare hands.

There is definitely some questionable hand sanitizer out there right now.
 
2020-07-09 5:44:22 PM  
I just drink enough Mezcal until it oozes out of my pores.  I'm naturally sanitized.
 
2020-07-09 5:48:19 PM  
If you've been drinking your hand sanitizer, you might want to know that the FDA is warning consumers about 55 varieties that contain toxic wood alcohol. If you can't read this headline, it might already be too late Get Help.
 
2020-07-09 5:51:26 PM  

WilderKWight: Walmart had a gallon bottle of sanitizer with a pump by the front doors. I had just been in the store touching things and wanted to sanitize. I pumped it. A ginormous glob of slimy goo shot out at high velocity and completely coated my hand. I mean, we're talking a few ounces of the stuff in one pump. Enough to fill one of those tiny pocket bottles of sanitizer.

The stuff smelled like a poor drunkard. It didn't evaporate when rubbed in, either. It remained this slimy coating on my skin. I felt like I'd been cleaning the floors of an adult bookstore with my bare hands.

There is definitely some questionable hand sanitizer out there right now.


Must have been this brand.
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2020-07-09 5:51:28 PM  
Yeah, Covid reminds me of The Andromeda Strain, too.
 
2020-07-09 5:52:51 PM  

eyeq360: Drinking ethanol will slow down the metabolism of methanol, but this is no excuse to chug down a bottle of bourbon.


I used to date a vet tech and she talked about feeding vodka to dogs who've drank antifreeze.

Annnnnnnd one for the doctor.
 
2020-07-09 5:55:56 PM  

Gooch: Protip: use it on your hands, don't drink it


Methanol is still toxic via skin and inhalation so don't use the bad stuff either way. I doubt these products contain huge amounts of it (FDA doesn't seem to say), but it's still evil for a company to be cutting sanitizer with a toxic substitute.
 
2020-07-09 5:58:48 PM  

vudukungfu: Kitty Dukakis's bartender's guide could help you with that.

or not.


There's a name I haven't heard since high school.
 
2020-07-09 5:58:51 PM  
Except for the coma and seizures it's like every hangover.
 
2020-07-09 5:59:39 PM  
Whatever we use at work smells like tequila. Tequila smells like vomit and regret. I've not tasted it to verify, but we are all pretty sure it's tequila
 
2020-07-09 6:00:30 PM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: I just drink enough Mezcal until it oozes out of my pores.  I'm naturally sanitized.


Sanitize the outside, create an inhospitable environment for teh covids on the inside. Seems to work.

Also wash your hands before pooping as well as after. The anus is a lesser known vector for pathogen entry.
 
2020-07-09 6:06:08 PM  
i only drink the good kind
 
2020-07-09 6:07:54 PM  
Toxic Wood Alcohol is what my wife calls cheap rye when I try to make out with her after drinking it.
 
2020-07-09 6:09:21 PM  
I can't read the headline, but this wood alcohol is delicious.
 
2020-07-09 6:14:54 PM  

falkone32: Gooch: Protip: use it on your hands, don't drink it

Methanol is still toxic via skin and inhalation so don't use the bad stuff either way. I doubt these products contain huge amounts of it (FDA doesn't seem to say), but it's still evil for a company to be cutting sanitizer with a toxic substitute.


I don't think that's the issue.  The problem is that they aren't separating the two properly, because it takes time and money.

Poorly-made Booz does have this problem.
 
2020-07-09 6:15:36 PM  
Actually it's not just ingestion:

MethanolSkin: Causes moderate skin irritation. Harmful if absorbed through the skin. Prolonged and/or repeated contact may cause defatting of the skin and dermatitis. Methanol can be absorbed through the skin, producing systemic effects that include visual disturbances.
Chronic: Prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause dermatitis. Chronic exposure may cause effects similar to those of acute exposure. Methanol is only very slowly eliminated from the body. Because of this slow elimination, methanol should be regarded as a cumulative poison. Though a single exposure may cause no effect, daily exposures may result in the accumulation of a harmful amount. Methanol has produced fetotoxicity in rats and teratogenicity in mice exposed by inhalation to high concentrations that did not produce significant maternal toxicity.
 
2020-07-09 6:20:23 PM  
Today I learned that ethanol, methanol, and isopropyl alcohol are three different things.

Previously I thought there were two kinds: the type people routinely drink, usually without immediately harming themselves, and the kind you don't want to drink. I had isopropyl alchol and methanol confused and thought people were already putting wood alcohol on their hands without harm, but that's not true.
 
2020-07-09 6:25:46 PM  
There's an entire episode of the show Intervention that follows a guy who drinks sanitizer. Great ep.
 
2020-07-09 6:33:55 PM  

aungen: falkone32: Gooch: Protip: use it on your hands, don't drink it

Methanol is still toxic via skin and inhalation so don't use the bad stuff either way. I doubt these products contain huge amounts of it (FDA doesn't seem to say), but it's still evil for a company to be cutting sanitizer with a toxic substitute.

I don't think that's the issue.  The problem is that they aren't separating the two properly, because it takes time and money.

Poorly-made Booz does have this problem.


My guess would be they are just buying denatured alcohol. 100% ethanol is stupid expensive and there are a lot of regulatory hurdles to getting it, 95% ethanol with the other 5% being methyl or isopropyl is a lot cheaper and easier to get.
 
2020-07-09 6:40:18 PM  
That reminds me - anyone know if my old cans of Sterno would make a good hand sanitizer?
 
2020-07-09 6:41:18 PM  
Maybe they are just DOING WHAT THE GOVERNMENT ASKED THEM TO DO:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/2​7​/u-s-fda-says-steps-needed-to-stop-peo​ple-drinking-hand-sanitizer/

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Monday asked makers of hand sanitizers to add denatured alcohol to the products in order to make them less palatable in a bid to discourage people, especially children, from drinking the liquid.

April 27, 2020
 
2020-07-09 6:54:10 PM  
This sounds like a problem for people who still don't have 2 gallons of pre-pandemic hand sanitizer on hand.

/it's the good stuff
 
2020-07-09 6:57:38 PM  

transporter_ii: Maybe they are just DOING WHAT THE GOVERNMENT ASKED THEM TO DO:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/27​/u-s-fda-says-steps-needed-to-stop-peo​ple-drinking-hand-sanitizer/

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Monday asked makers of hand sanitizers to add denatured alcohol to the products in order to make them less palatable in a bid to discourage people, especially children, from drinking the liquid.

April 27, 2020


So that way people can get sick when they have cracked skin or get any in their nose or eyes, or if they use hand sanitizer and then touch food.  Poisoning people in the name of Jesus-based fear of alcohol.
 
2020-07-09 6:57:40 PM  
This was on an episode of Intervention. He would mix it with Mountain Dew, I think. He said the first chug was the worst and it got better as you drank more. I never tried that though.
 
2020-07-09 6:59:21 PM  
Who are you to tell me whacftjnv tivfkcdib ggUKnddyhl cfffkbjbmvh???
 
2020-07-09 6:59:29 PM  

transporter_ii: Maybe they are just DOING WHAT THE GOVERNMENT ASKED THEM TO DO:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/27​/u-s-fda-says-steps-needed-to-stop-peo​ple-drinking-hand-sanitizer/

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Monday asked makers of hand sanitizers to add denatured alcohol to the products in order to make them less palatable in a bid to discourage

poison people, especially children, from drinking the liquid.

April 27, 2020


Fixed
 
2020-07-09 6:59:52 PM  
you just gotta hold it in your mouth until the alcohol evaporates, then spit out the toxins.
 
2020-07-09 7:00:02 PM  

SwiftFox: That reminds me - anyone know if my old cans of Sterno would make a good hand sanitizer?


AFAIK there are both methanol-based and ethanol-based Sterno and generics - so if yours specifically says "ethanol", then you possibly can use it on your hands (however I don't know if the ethanol versions are denatured with small amounts of methanol to make them technically undrinkable, which would also make them bad choices for hand sanitizer).

/looked in to canned heat products in the winter before the lockdowns
//some people claim that burning methanol indoors creates more carbon dioxide (not monoxide) than burning ethanol and should be avoided, but I found nothing definitive on that subject.
 
2020-07-09 7:01:18 PM  
Wood alcohol?  Oh noes!

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2020-07-09 7:03:00 PM  
Wood alcohol? C'mon it's methanol. What's with the weird distancing
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2020-07-09 7:10:00 PM  

vudukungfu: Kitty Dukakis's bartender's guide could help you with that.

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Your memory of events astounds me.
 
2020-07-09 7:13:18 PM  
My boss thought he could trick me by putting cheap sanitizer in the empty Purell bottle. Purell doesn't smell like sour mash.
 
2020-07-09 7:18:22 PM  
That's why I only drink milk infused with natural gas.
 
2020-07-09 7:18:51 PM  
A buddy of mine (educated, not stupid, has a BA, MFA and a JD) gave me a ride a while back.  He had a spray bottle of "home made" hand sanitizer in the car.

Smelled exactly like corn likker.

But I sure as hell was not tempted to drink it.
 
2020-07-09 7:19:05 PM  
Yea, there are some nasty sanitizers out there using Isopropyl alcohol or even Acetone.  My workplace got some that smelled like some hobo passed out in the alley after drinking tequila and urinated in his clothes.  I feel dirty using that cleaner
 
2020-07-09 7:19:14 PM  

Gordon Bennett: That's why I only drink milk infused with natural gas.


Milk gives me natural gas.
 
2020-07-09 7:21:40 PM  

transporter_ii: Maybe they are just DOING WHAT THE GOVERNMENT ASKED THEM TO DO:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04/27​/u-s-fda-says-steps-needed-to-stop-peo​ple-drinking-hand-sanitizer/

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Monday asked makers of hand sanitizers to add denatured alcohol to the products in order to make them less palatable in a bid to discourage people, especially children, from drinking the liquid.

April 27, 2020


Oh yes, let us go back to prohibition-era, in which the solution to people getting poisoned by drinking denatured alcohol was to ADD MORE POISIN!
 
2020-07-09 7:22:33 PM  
Fun fact; methanol is so toxic because it is oxidized to formaldehyde so at least you can get a discount with the mortician.
 
2020-07-09 7:26:27 PM  
I think I had a small bottle of one of those a month ago. Which explains why I am the way I am today.
 
2020-07-09 7:27:23 PM  
Jayne: This ain't bad.
Badger: There's a trick to it. Wood alcohol.
Mal: Now we're favored guests. Treated to the finest in beverages that make you blind.
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2020-07-09 7:45:26 PM  
My hand sanitizer is from China

/so there's nothing in it but glycerin
 
2020-07-09 7:54:18 PM  

falkone32: Gooch: Protip: use it on your hands, don't drink it

Methanol is still toxic via skin and inhalation so don't use the bad stuff either way. I doubt these products contain huge amounts of it (FDA doesn't seem to say), but it's still evil for a company to be cutting sanitizer with a toxic substitute.


They've found products with 70% MeOH and no EtOH. So, not always just a little bit.
 
2020-07-09 8:02:43 PM  
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills around here, it seems like most people commenting didn't read the article.

It's not the consuming of alcohol that the FDA is warning about, it's about brands of "hand sanitizer" that are contaminated with methanol which is absorbed through the skin, you know, like how hand sanitizers are supposed to be used. Yeah, with this shiat can cause blindness or even killing you.

These brands in the FDA list aren't doing it right, in some cases merely cutting their hand sanitizer with methanol.
 
2020-07-09 8:17:54 PM  
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