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(Fox 5 New York)   "The blue-cheese salad dressing, butter, ground turkey, cans of grain-free dog food, and new toothbrush came to $24.97. Laurie Mahlenbrei handed the cashier a slice of wood marked $25 and walked out with her items in plastic grocery bags"   (fox5ny.com) divider line
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2020-07-09 5:22:53 PM  
18 votes:

The Third Man: Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper


Cotton and linen
 
2020-07-09 5:25:45 PM  
13 votes:

Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?


Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.
 
2020-07-09 5:52:47 PM  
10 votes:

Dybbuk Schmybbuk: I hate those stupid, cheap, sloppy plastic bag that dump half the groceries all over the backseat.


You mean the ones Walmart has been using for the past four years?

The other day I bought a quart of juice. Paid for it, got my bag, and walked out the front door. Two steps into the parking lot the back just split open. Nothing sharp in the bag. It wasn't jabbed or cut. It just decided one quart of juice in a plastic container was too heavy for its delicate structure and gave way. The bottle hit the parking lot, bounced once, and then landed cap-downward at an angle. CRACK. The hard plastic cap broke. Juice splashed on my shoes and then gurgled out of the now-ruptured bottle. Before I could bend my arthritic knees down to pick it up, nearly half had poured out.

You can bet I had them give me another one. And double-bag it.

They still made me go through the whole return process, though. I had to wait in line, had to return the broken bottle and then exchange for the new bottle that I had to go back and retrieve from the ass-end of the grocery side of the store (the exact opposite side from my car). Added 20 more minutes to my trip there. For farking juice.
 
2020-07-09 5:43:42 PM  
10 votes:

AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.


They use them again where I live. We are not allowed to bring in our own bags for now. Risk of contamination. They use the cheap non-reusable ones and no charge.
 
2020-07-09 5:28:49 PM  
10 votes:
Get some stacks!
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2020-07-09 5:32:10 PM  
8 votes:

Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?


2020.

In California, it appears part of the Coronavirus mitigation stuff the governor ordered is to do a 180 and ban reusable plastic bags.  I think the whole proposition mandating such (prop 67) is now on hold.  What it did was require plastic bags to be both sold for a dime, and for them to be a certain thickness.  They've stopped charging them, and they've gone back to the thinner ones.
 
2020-07-09 6:45:25 PM  
7 votes:

alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.


Not illegal. It's still backed by US currency, and not printed on it that it's legal tender.

Think Disney dollars, but being used in a small town instead of a Disney Park.
 
2020-07-09 7:30:01 PM  
6 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.

Not illegal. It's still backed by US currency, and not printed on it that it's legal tender.

Think Disney dollars, but being used in a small town instead of a Disney Park.


Notes in the UK work that way. Look at the writing at the top.
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That, strictly speaking, isn't five pounds in the way that five £1 coins issued by the Royal Mint are. It's an open cheque issued by the Bank of England with a promise to exchange it for five pounds in state-issued coins. For all practical uses it is money and is routinely used as such.

Scottish and Northern Irish notes add another layer of complexity, as they're much the same except they're backed by vaults of special, extremely high denomination Bank of England notes kept in vaults in the bank in London.

/don't get me started on trying to spend Scottish or Northern Irish money in England
 
2020-07-09 5:42:39 PM  
6 votes:
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Saving up for when we go to war with China
 
2020-07-09 5:38:47 PM  
6 votes:
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What's the Norton Bucks to Tenino Covid Cash exchange rate?
 
2020-07-09 5:35:13 PM  
6 votes:
This is the perfect public private partnership, City prints it's own money, store accepts it, can get $25 from the city or sell it to Coin Collectors for more, making the city spend less.
 
2020-07-09 5:31:11 PM  
6 votes:

AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.


See them in Cali a lot still.  We don't take them, as we have our own bags and boxes - they just put shiat back in the cart and we put them in the bags etc. when we get to the car, but yeah they're commonly available now that the pandemic has hit.  Stores don't want to have to interact with containers that've  been sitting in your house/car getting gods know what all over them - and rightfully so.

/why the heck doesn't spell check recognize that've?
//sorry but that's been common speech for a long time
///seems about on par with trying to push no prepositions at the end of a sentence
 
2020-07-09 6:53:51 PM  
5 votes:

alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.


are gift cards illegal?
 
Al!
2020-07-09 7:57:18 PM  
4 votes:

alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.


It's not illegal.  If they were printing US dollars, that would be illegal.  If they were trying to pass off the wooden cash as US dollars, that would be illegal.

How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  You have to be trolling.  The answer is "the same way you can have a sales tax on something paid for with a debit card or cash."
 
2020-07-09 7:19:13 PM  
4 votes:

the voice of raisin: Tom_Slick: This is the perfect public private partnership, City prints it's own money, store accepts it, can get $25 from the city or sell it to Coin Collectors for more, making the city spend less.

what's the difference if the county, state or federal govt prints the money.  can the store do the same thing?


Stores all ready do that in the form of gift certificates. All I'm saying everybody wins in this situation
 
2020-07-09 6:55:26 PM  
4 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.

Not illegal. It's still backed by US currency, and not printed on it that it's legal tender.

Think Disney dollars, but being used in a small town instead of a Disney Park.


It is basically local barter system. Nothing says you have to exchange everything for monetary compensation.  If you want to trade for a block of wood, that is your business.  The fact that the city is saying those blocks of wood have a currency value is nice, but it could change at a moments notice. I would hammer that wood ASAP so you didn't get caught with something worth less than the goods or services.
 
2020-07-09 6:33:57 PM  
4 votes:

baronbloodbath: [Fark user image 425x266]

What's the Norton Bucks to Tenino Covid Cash exchange rate?


Ahh, Emperor Norton, one of this country's greatest crack-pot goofballs who got an entire city to buy into his act. He was just the right nut-ball at just the right place at just the right time.
 
2020-07-09 6:18:31 PM  
4 votes:
"Thank you. Since we decided a few weeks ago to adopt the leaf as legal tender, we have, of course, all become immensely rich."

Ford stared in disbelief at the crowd who were murmuring appreciatively at this and greedily fingering the wads of leaves with which their track suits were stuffed.

"But we have also," continued the management consultant, "run into a small inflation problem on account of the high level of leaf availability, which means that, I gather, the current going rate has something like three deciduous forests buying one ship's peanut."

Murmurs of alarm came from the crowd. The management consultant waved them down.
"So in order to obviate this problem," he continued, "and effectively revalue the leaf, we are about to embark on a massive defoliation campaign, and. . .er, burn down all the forests. I think you'll all agree that's a sensible move under the circumstances."

The crowd seemed a little uncertain about this for a second or two until someone pointed out how much this would increase the value of the leaves in their pockets whereupon they let out whoops of delight and gave the management consultant a standing ovation. The accountants among them looked forward to a profitable autumn aloft and it got an appreciative round from the crowd."
 
2020-07-09 5:53:47 PM  
4 votes:

AeAe: The Third Man: Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper

Cotton and linen


Blended fabrics are forbidden by the bible.
 
2020-07-09 5:29:12 PM  
4 votes:
I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.
 
2020-07-09 5:24:26 PM  
4 votes:
I swear, this is the most press I've seen Tenino get in the 25 years I've lived in Washington. On that note, do they have pens to check for counterfeit wooden bills one could make in the shed?
 
2020-07-09 2:33:24 PM  
4 votes:
I was told never to take any wooden nickels.
Never said anything about a $25 plank to me, though.
 
2020-07-09 10:27:32 PM  
3 votes:

baronbloodbath: [Fark user image 425x266]

What's the Norton Bucks to Tenino Covid Cash exchange rate?


Good old Emperor Norton.  Insanity didn't stop him from achieving.
 
2020-07-09 9:47:40 PM  
3 votes:

alex10294: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.

are gift cards illegal?

Gift cards are Visa, trackable, or store specific and taxable. You also spend money when you buy them.  This is more like private script.  I can't just make some "Alex dollars", pay people with them, then say that I'll give cash on presentation for them.


You can, as long as people are willing to accept them in trade. The artist J.S.G. Boggs did exactly that.

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He offered his artwork in trade for the amount drawn on it. Those familiar with him and his work happily took them as they could be easily sold to art collectors for far more than what was paid for them in trade.

Mind you, he did get in some legal trouble over these as he faced a few accusations of counterfeiting, but was never convicted.
 
2020-07-09 7:49:43 PM  
3 votes:
It's legal as long as it is not used for payroll and as long as the businesses accept US money as well. It is paying people in scrip that is specifically banned and that is a Dept of Labor issue not a Dept of the Treasury issue
 
2020-07-09 7:36:22 PM  
3 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.

Not illegal. It's still backed by US currency, and not printed on it that it's legal tender.

Think Disney dollars, but being used in a small town instead of a Disney Park.


or chips in a casino?
 
2020-07-09 7:33:16 PM  
3 votes:
I don't mean to be that guy, but isn't there a better source for this than a NY Fox affiliate that cuts off the last third of the story?


/Crap, I guess I DO want to be that guy....
 
2020-07-09 6:54:52 PM  
3 votes:

the voice of raisin: Tom_Slick: This is the perfect public private partnership, City prints it's own money, store accepts it, can get $25 from the city or sell it to Coin Collectors for more, making the city spend less.

what's the difference if the county, state or federal govt prints the money.  can the store do the same thing?


yeah it's called a coupon or gift certificate
 
2020-07-09 6:43:05 PM  
3 votes:
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/bow-chika-bow-bow
 
2020-07-09 5:25:08 PM  
3 votes:
10-9-0.

Yeah, they had one bank that went out of business in the Depression, so they ran out of paper money. They decided to temporarily print wooden money to act as an exchange medium, and it's been a vaguely touristy thing to buy wooden money there ever since.

There is a decent Mexican place there in the stripmall. Nice outdoor seating, if it's not raining.
 
2020-07-09 3:21:19 PM  
3 votes:
Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper
 
2020-07-09 11:55:15 PM  
2 votes:
Gotta admire the sheer gumption of any town that simply decides "if the federal government won't institute the UBI necessary to get through Depression II, we'll just farking well do it ourselves like we did for Depression I."
 
2020-07-09 8:24:36 PM  
2 votes:

Foolkiller: What? Where's my change?


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2020-07-09 6:10:55 PM  
2 votes:

The Third Man: Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper


Technically incorrect.

Should look up what technically means.

Could have used, "all pieces of paper could be considered slices of wood", or "most pieces of paper are made from slices of wood" but not that they "technically" ARE slices of wood.

Same as all candy is not technically pieces of sugarcane, beets or corn albeit their bulk originates from those sources.
 
2020-07-09 6:03:59 PM  
2 votes:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: why the heck doesn't spell check recognize that've?
//sorry but that's been common speech for a long time


Common speech and proper grammar are two different things
 
2020-07-09 5:56:56 PM  
2 votes:

WilderKWight: Dybbuk Schmybbuk: I hate those stupid, cheap, sloppy plastic bag that dump half the groceries all over the backseat.

You mean the ones Walmart has been using for the past four years?

The other day I bought a quart of juice. Paid for it, got my bag, and walked out the front door. Two steps into the parking lot the back just split open. Nothing sharp in the bag. It wasn't jabbed or cut. It just decided one quart of juice in a plastic container was too heavy for its delicate structure and gave way. The bottle hit the parking lot, bounced once, and then landed cap-downward at an angle. CRACK. The hard plastic cap broke. Juice splashed on my shoes and then gurgled out of the now-ruptured bottle. Before I could bend my arthritic knees down to pick it up, nearly half had poured out.

You can bet I had them give me another one. And double-bag it.

They still made me go through the whole return process, though. I had to wait in line, had to return the broken bottle and then exchange for the new bottle that I had to go back and retrieve from the ass-end of the grocery side of the store (the exact opposite side from my car). Added 20 more minutes to my trip there. For farking juice.


In my grocery bagging days we would intentionally break open a case of beer you purchased as we loaded it into the trunk of your car. Then we would apologize and run and grab a replacement as we hid the broken case behind the soda machine to retrieve later.
 
2020-07-09 5:38:47 PM  
2 votes:
Neat idea. And a fun history lesson.
 
2020-07-09 5:37:36 PM  
2 votes:
It can't be used for alcohol, tobacco, or marijuana.

Well that's the last time I go shopping in Tenino, Washington. Also, I live in California and would need a lot of wood chips to fuel my car.
 
2020-07-09 5:30:06 PM  
2 votes:
And ready to make it rain?
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2020-07-09 5:22:30 PM  
2 votes:
plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?
 
2020-07-10 2:34:41 AM  
1 vote:

alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.


It's not a currency, but rather a town issued bearer coupon backed by an agreement from local retailers. The bearer doesn't actually buy anything, the town does, and yes it pays tax.
 
2020-07-10 12:18:10 AM  
1 vote:

alex10294: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: alex10294: I think this may actually be illegal, unless they had a depression exemption that never got revoked. How can you have sales tax on something paid for with wood?  Pay the tax in splinters?  Is the $300 taxable income?  If they sell it for more or less do they have to report the profit?  Cool idea though.

are gift cards illegal?

Gift cards are Visa, trackable, or store specific and taxable. You also spend money when you buy them.  This is more like private script.  I can't just make some "Alex dollars", pay people with them, then say that I'll give cash on presentation for them.


Why not? If your "Alex dollars" are (a) not metal coins and (b) not so similar to US notes as to invite counterfeiting charges, what law would you be breaking by issuing them?
 
2020-07-09 11:16:58 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-07-09 8:12:36 PM  
1 vote:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.

See them in Cali a lot still.  We don't take them, as we have our own bags and boxes - they just put shiat back in the cart and we put them in the bags etc. when we get to the car, but yeah they're commonly available now that the pandemic has hit.  Stores don't want to have to interact with containers that've  been sitting in your house/car getting gods know what all over them - and rightfully so.

/why the heck doesn't spell check recognize that've?
//sorry but that's been common speech for a long time
///seems about on par with trying to push no prepositions at the end of a sentence


Prepositions at the end of sentences often sound weird.  I can understand what is being said, but they just sound bad.   Like, "where are you at?". I've never understood the need.  This is t something that makes me lose sleep, though.
 
2020-07-09 7:21:15 PM  
1 vote:

Geotpf: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

2020.

In California, it appears part of the Coronavirus mitigation stuff the governor ordered is to do a 180 and ban reusable plastic bags.  I think the whole proposition mandating such (prop 67) is now on hold.  What it did was require plastic bags to be both sold for a dime, and for them to be a certain thickness.  They've stopped charging them, and they've gone back to the thinner ones.


Up here they kept the thicker ones and went back to charging for them a week ago. If you bring your own you have to bag 'em yourself...
 
2020-07-09 6:35:54 PM  
1 vote:

Dybbuk Schmybbuk: AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.

Asked my local Safeway cashier what was up with the plastic bags, she said that all the paper bag factories had switched over to making toilet paper and are slowly switching back to making bags.
I hate those stupid, cheap, sloppy plastic bag that dump half the groceries all over the backseat.


Huh.  I hate the paper bags that always rip when I try to pick them up.
 
2020-07-09 5:48:05 PM  
1 vote:

The Third Man: Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper


Technically, all pieces of paper are shredded up bits of wood pressed flat. Not sure that counts as a slice as it's not a single piece cut from a larger portion.
 
2020-07-09 5:45:04 PM  
1 vote:

AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.


Asked my local Safeway cashier what was up with the plastic bags, she said that all the paper bag factories had switched over to making toilet paper and are slowly switching back to making bags.
I hate those stupid, cheap, sloppy plastic bag that dump half the groceries all over the backseat.
 
2020-07-09 5:42:12 PM  
1 vote:

AbuHashish: Isitoveryet: plastic grocery bag? what year is it!?

Despite the bans, a lot of stores have gone back to using them. I get them at Safeway every trip.


And a lot of places never banned them
 
2020-07-09 5:28:33 PM  
1 vote:
Big Ricky approves

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2020-07-09 5:24:40 PM  
1 vote:

AeAe: The Third Man: Technically all pieces of paper are slices of wood...

/Yes, I know US paper money is actually made of cloth, not paper

Cotton and linen


And previously, butterflies.
 
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