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(Lincoln Journal Star)   Three Nebraska towns have fallen to invading armies of prairie dogs; mankind appears helpless to stop their advance   (journalstar.com) divider line
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2020-07-09 3:34:40 AM  
Ask the government for help, and force these rugged individuals to accept socialism? No, give them what they want and allow them to use their bootstraps.
 
2020-07-09 5:42:44 AM  
Well, actually the people could take care of it themselves with poison, but Uncle Sam frowns on that because of the predators that eat prairie dogs.
 
2020-07-09 5:43:36 AM  
Drama Prairie Dog
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2020-07-09 5:44:35 AM  

Yamaneko2: Well, actually the people could take care of it themselves with poison, but Uncle Sam frowns on that because of the predators that eat prairie dogs.


Why do humans feel entitled to monopolize resources?
 
2020-07-09 5:44:45 AM  
I have just the man for the job
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2020-07-09 5:45:08 AM  
I have just the man for the job:
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2020-07-09 5:46:30 AM  
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2020-07-09 5:46:45 AM  
*rolls eyes*
Well, it seems I have two men for the job.

/I swear, when it glitches the post I refreshed to make sure it didn't post, and the post was not there
 
2020-07-09 6:15:30 AM  
So they're more rodent-y than doglike then?
 
2020-07-09 6:17:19 AM  
3,000 dollars in damage last year?

That's it... arm the nukes.
 
2020-07-09 6:20:34 AM  
FTFA: "God put them here for a reason."

Yeah. To see what species would win.
 
2020-07-09 6:20:38 AM  
Nothing a group of varmint hunters couldn't take care of. I didn't think Nebraska would be a state that needed to import that kind of thing...

/not me, though. I find the whistlin' pigs to be charming. Like squirrels.
 
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2020-07-09 6:30:34 AM  
Stop exterminating the indigenous peo... er, rats.
 
2020-07-09 6:38:41 AM  
Probably infested with bubonic plague carrying fleas.

When I lived in ABQ there were many vacant lots with prairie dogs, and they were fairly common around the outlying areas of the city. I took my GF's kid to the zoo one day and he was more interested and excited about their prairie dog exhibit than any of the exotic and large animals. I should have just driven to a nearby vacant lot with him.
 
2020-07-09 6:45:43 AM  
I was prairie dogging earlier today. Made it home just in time.
 
2020-07-09 6:47:42 AM  
Re-introduce wolves?  Coyotes?  Where are the natural prairie dog predators?
 
2020-07-09 6:50:10 AM  

dryknife: Probably infested with bubonic plague carrying fleas.

When I lived in ABQ there were many vacant lots with prairie dogs, and they were fairly common around the outlying areas of the city. I took my GF's kid to the zoo one day and he was more interested and excited about their prairie dog exhibit than any of the exotic and large animals. I should have just driven to a nearby vacant lot with him.


I saw prairie dogs at an exhibit in Vienna, Austria. They obviously weren't familiar with dealing with the animals. There was the pen where the prairie dogs were supposed to be, but they had also dug down and occupied a vacant pen across the path.
 
2020-07-09 6:56:07 AM  

Manic Depressive Mouse: dryknife: Probably infested with bubonic plague carrying fleas.

When I lived in ABQ there were many vacant lots with prairie dogs, and they were fairly common around the outlying areas of the city. I took my GF's kid to the zoo one day and he was more interested and excited about their prairie dog exhibit than any of the exotic and large animals. I should have just driven to a nearby vacant lot with him.

I saw prairie dogs at an exhibit in Vienna, Austria. They obviously weren't familiar with dealing with the animals. There was the pen where the prairie dogs were supposed to be, but they had also dug down and occupied a vacant pen across the path.


That's pretty much why our zoo got rid of them.
 
2020-07-09 6:58:50 AM  
There is only one USDA wildlife specialist to help control animal populations - including coyotes, porcupines and raccoons. The county wants the USDA to hire additional staff, but the agency says there's no money for it. Now, the county is looking at private-sector help and even volunteers from the community to help control the prairie dog population.

Get ready for home remedies from the local yokels. When I lived in Virginia, I had a yellow jacket nest in my back yard.  My clinic manager suggested pouring gasoline over the nest instead of calling an exterminator.
I called an exterminator. Spend the money and hire actual experts.
 
2020-07-09 7:07:31 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: There is only one USDA wildlife specialist to help control animal populations - including coyotes, porcupines and raccoons. The county wants the USDA to hire additional staff, but the agency says there's no money for it. Now, the county is looking at private-sector help and even volunteers from the community to help control the prairie dog population.

Get ready for home remedies from the local yokels. When I lived in Virginia, I had a yellow jacket nest in my back yard.  My clinic manager suggested pouring gasoline over the nest instead of calling an exterminator.
I called an exterminator. Spend the money and hire actual experts.


Unlike yellow jackets though, it is fairly traditional to go out and shoot prairie dogs.  Heck I've got friends here in Florida that go out to Utah to shoot p-dogs every year.
 
2020-07-09 7:11:48 AM  
If three towns have "fallen" to the prairie dog menace, I would expect them to be evacuated or somehow defeated by the prairie dogs. But the article says the prairie dogs cost $3k of damage. Bad headline.
 
2020-07-09 7:12:45 AM  
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A team of rodent predators.
 
2020-07-09 7:24:23 AM  
If I had a rocket launcher..

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2020-07-09 7:34:42 AM  

bsmz: If three towns have "fallen" to the prairie dog menace, I would expect them to be evacuated or somehow defeated by the prairie dogs. But the article says the prairie dogs cost $3k of damage. Bad headline.


I was thinking, fallen? Really? Like pitched battles, white flags, lamentations of their women fallen?
 
2020-07-09 7:42:03 AM  
"Commissioner Philip Sanders said the animals caused nearly $3,000 in damage last year to 2,600 acres in the county."

Nebraska: When your natural disaster can be settled in small claims court...
 
2020-07-09 7:58:50 AM  

QFarker: Re-introduce wolves?  Coyotes?  Where are the natural prairie dog predators?


Black-footed ferrets, also endangered. This sounds like the perfect place for a new reintroduction.
 
2020-07-09 8:00:20 AM  

QFarker: Re-introduce wolves?  Coyotes?  Where are the natural prairie dog predators?


Coyote, fox, and badger all hunt prairie dogs. I think some of the larger raptors do, too.

Coyote and fox also prey on livestock, so many ranchers and farmers like to kill them. Reducing the number of natural predators tends to increase the prey animal population, which- for some strange reason- farmers and ranchers often have trouble understanding. So the farmers and ranchers create the conditions which cause an explosion in a nuisance species population, then complain about the abundance of nuisance species and the problems resulting from that unnatural overpopulation. Then farmers and ranchers start adopting methods for dealing with the nuisance species overpopulation (such as poisons) which generally also wipes out loads of other animals farmers and ranchers should want to keep around because of the beneficial effects those animals have on the local environment.

To avoid this cascade-failure effect, a more balanced approach would be to increase protections for livestock against predators without wiping out the predators, and accept the slightly higher number of livestock lost to predators as one of the costs of dong business. Some farmers and ranchers do just this, but others are unwilling to accept the added short-term expense while multiplying their long-term expenses. The long-term changes to the local environments as a direct result of human environmental changes in pursuit of short-term gain gradually reduce the amount of useful land suitable for farming and ranching.

The problematic species here is Homo Nonsapiens.
 
2020-07-09 8:04:09 AM  

I'm an Egyptian!: Ask the government for help, and force these rugged individuals to accept socialism? No, give them what they want and allow them to use their bootstraps.


They could easily hunt them to extinction if the government wasn't stopping them from doing so. So yeah, it is the feds responsibility to provide a solution.

That said,

"Commissioner Philip Sanders said the animals caused nearly $3,000 in damage last year..."

Cut them a check and call it a day. Even having a government official look at the problem would cost 10 x that.
 
2020-07-09 8:08:56 AM  

Lady J: bsmz: If three towns have "fallen" to the prairie dog menace, I would expect them to be evacuated or somehow defeated by the prairie dogs. But the article says the prairie dogs cost $3k of damage. Bad headline.

I was thinking, fallen? Really? Like pitched battles, white flags, lamentations of their women fallen?


Prairie dog! What is best in life?

To crush your enemies, dig holes in their garden, and hear the lamentations of the farmers!
 
2020-07-09 8:11:15 AM  

Bovine Diarrhea Virus: There is only one USDA wildlife specialist to help control animal populations - including coyotes, porcupines and raccoons. The county wants the USDA to hire additional staff, but the agency says there's no money for it. Now, the county is looking at private-sector help and even volunteers from the community to help control the prairie dog population.

Get ready for home remedies from the local yokels. When I lived in Virginia, I had a yellow jacket nest in my back yard.  My clinic manager suggested pouring gasoline over the nest instead of calling an exterminator.
I called an exterminator. Spend the money and hire actual experts.


Bottles of spray foam, working legs, and running like hell back inside.

Getting high and complimenting with a full ghillie suit, was my own personal Vietnam.
 
2020-07-09 8:11:21 AM  

big pig peaches: I'm an Egyptian!: Ask the government for help, and force these rugged individuals to accept socialism? No, give them what they want and allow them to use their bootstraps.

They could easily hunt them to extinction if the government wasn't stopping them from doing so. So yeah, it is the feds responsibility to provide a solution.

That said,

"Commissioner Philip Sanders said the animals caused nearly $3,000 in damage last year..."

Cut them a check and call it a day. Even having a government official look at the problem would cost 10 x that.


These current feds would allow for the use of pulverized spent nuclear fuel rods and plug the holes with asbestos infill.
 
2020-07-09 8:16:31 AM  
Have they considered leaving the prairie dogs alone?
 
2020-07-09 8:27:34 AM  

QFarker: Re-introduce wolves?  Coyotes?  Where are the natural prairie dog predators?


Black-footed ferrets.
 
2020-07-09 8:29:04 AM  
Start a rumor that eating the livers of prairie dogs is an aphrodisiac. The critters will be wiped out by poachers in no time.
 
2020-07-09 8:32:45 AM  
My wife used to get 2 bits for every tail as a kid on the farm.
 
2020-07-09 8:35:26 AM  
Anyone mentioned that they're the primary vector for Bubonic plague yet
Because they are
 
2020-07-09 8:41:56 AM  

Cornelis de Gyselaer: Anyone mentioned that they're the primary vector for Bubonic plague yet
Because they are


*Secondary.

Primary is the fleas on their body. Yeah, the plague kills the ferrets, bit of a bummer. Out where I am in BFE desert land, they are the most hated animal outside of "Librhuls". Ranchers are some vile bastards when it comes to eliminating the Prarie Dogs. Explosives/propane/MAPP gas, poisons, glue traps, and sadly the giant vacuum machines. I haven't seen the vacuum machines in a while but they exist: think "sewage removal", only for meat :(
 
2020-07-09 8:43:13 AM  
What's this then, I can get some tail from your wife for two bits??

/welcome to Fark
 
2020-07-09 8:46:00 AM  

thespindrifter: Cornelis de Gyselaer: Anyone mentioned that they're the primary vector for Bubonic plague yet
Because they are

*Secondary.

Primary is the fleas on their body. Yeah, the plague kills the ferrets, bit of a bummer. Out where I am in BFE desert land, they are the most hated animal outside of "Librhuls". Ranchers are some vile bastards when it comes to eliminating the Prarie Dogs. Explosives/propane/MAPP gas, poisons, glue traps, and sadly the giant vacuum machines. I haven't seen the vacuum machines in a while but they exist: think "sewage removal", only for meat :(


Point taken I guess my point is that without the Prarie dogs the plague would be less prevalent

I'm a librarian but I think vaccum Prarie dogs is going to be a pass
 
2020-07-09 8:46:09 AM  
Hooray!  Prairie dog meat and bubonic plague for everyone!!!
 
2020-07-09 8:47:06 AM  

Salmon: My wife used to get 2 bits for every tail as a kid on the farm.


How much does she charge now?
 
2020-07-09 9:23:08 AM  
Uhh, subby, Prairie Dog hunting is a huge sport, and the perfect example of a good use for rifles shooting 5.56mm. Great varmint round, have enough range for the prairie, and so on.

P-Dogs, Coyotes and feral hogs are all nuisance animals that breed fast, and which need more natural predators. I'm happy to oblige.
 
2020-07-09 9:27:20 AM  

Bruscar: Have they considered leaving the prairie dogs alone?


They're rodents. They breed like rabbits. Plus, with their tunneling, they can be extremely destructive.  "leaving them alone" works fine until they start to move in and infest populated areas and cause damage to infrastructure. Denver, for example, has a huge population of them that have burrowed their way into and have taken up residence in areas around highways and in downtown, burrowing out the ground under roadways, etc.
 
2020-07-09 9:31:17 AM  

Wenchmaster: QFarker: Re-introduce wolves?  Coyotes?  Where are the natural prairie dog predators?

Coyote, fox, and badger all hunt prairie dogs. I think some of the larger raptors do, too.

Coyote and fox also prey on livestock, so many ranchers and farmers like to kill them. Reducing the number of natural predators tends to increase the prey animal population, which- for some strange reason- farmers and ranchers often have trouble understanding. So the farmers and ranchers create the conditions which cause an explosion in a nuisance species population, then complain about the abundance of nuisance species and the problems resulting from that unnatural overpopulation. Then farmers and ranchers start adopting methods for dealing with the nuisance species overpopulation (such as poisons) which generally also wipes out loads of other animals farmers and ranchers should want to keep around because of the beneficial effects those animals have on the local environment.

To avoid this cascade-failure effect, a more balanced approach would be to increase protections for livestock against predators without wiping out the predators, and accept the slightly higher number of livestock lost to predators as one of the costs of dong business. Some farmers and ranchers do just this, but others are unwilling to accept the added short-term expense while multiplying their long-term expenses. The long-term changes to the local environments as a direct result of human environmental changes in pursuit of short-term gain gradually reduce the amount of useful land suitable for farming and ranching.

The problematic species here is Homo Nonsapiens.


Or, you know, we could continue to do with Prairie Dogs what we do with Deer and other populations and thin the herd out ourselves. It's not like we're incapable of handling wildlife management and handling the population of varmint animals.

Not saying we shouldn't also go for more balance with Coyote and Fox populations and go to a tagging system/bag limit instead of still treating them like varmints and paying bounties on them with no limits.  But, we've figured out how to do that with Deer, Elk, and other animals great and small to make sure their populations remain within the carrying capacity of the habitat, we can certainly do the same thing here.
 
2020-07-09 9:48:08 AM  

Kit Fister: Uhh, subby, Prairie Dog hunting is a huge sport, and the perfect example of a good use for rifles shooting 5.56mm. Great varmint round, have enough range for the prairie, and so on.

P-Dogs, Coyotes and feral hogs are all nuisance animals that breed fast, and which need more natural predators. I'm happy to oblige.


Murica. Where no problem exists that can't be cured with more shooting.
 
2020-07-09 9:53:51 AM  

thespindrifter: Cornelis de Gyselaer: Anyone mentioned that they're the primary vector for Bubonic plague yet
Because they are

*Secondary.

Primary is the fleas on their body. Yeah, the plague kills the ferrets, bit of a bummer. Out where I am in BFE desert land, they are the most hated animal outside of "Librhuls". Ranchers are some vile bastards when it comes to eliminating the Prarie Dogs. Explosives/propane/MAPP gas, poisons, glue traps, and sadly the giant vacuum machines. I haven't seen the vacuum machines in a while but they exist: think "sewage removal", only for meat :(



Prairie Dog Vacuum
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2020-07-09 10:04:22 AM  

edmo: Kit Fister: Uhh, subby, Prairie Dog hunting is a huge sport, and the perfect example of a good use for rifles shooting 5.56mm. Great varmint round, have enough range for the prairie, and so on.

P-Dogs, Coyotes and feral hogs are all nuisance animals that breed fast, and which need more natural predators. I'm happy to oblige.

Murica. Where no problem exists that can't be cured with more shooting.


When it comes to controlling the populations of varmint animals that grow out of control and cause significant damage if left unchecked, shooting them isn't the only option, but it is an efficient option and given the requirements for training of hunters before they get a license and all that, it's a fairly safe option as well.

Not saying you use guns within a city or suburb with dense populations, mind, save for maybe a shotgun or a .22 rifle using .22 short cartridges no more powerful than an equivalent air rifle.  In designated areas where it's safe to hunt, however, it's free to the city/state/feds, controls the population, and permits/licenses provide a valuable source of income.

Heck, where do you think the DNR gets a huge chunk of its funds used for things like maintaining national parks and forests, lakes and streams, and doing the kind of wildlife preservation work that is vital? It ain't getting huge boosts from Congress.

But, I suppose there's no argument of the benefits that will override your prejudices, no matter how logical.
 
2020-07-09 10:06:23 AM  

big pig peaches: I'm an Egyptian!: Ask the government for help, and force these rugged individuals to accept socialism? No, give them what they want and allow them to use their bootstraps.

They could easily hunt them to extinction if the government wasn't stopping them from doing so. So yeah, it is the feds responsibility to provide a solution.

That said,

"Commissioner Philip Sanders said the animals caused nearly $3,000 in damage last year..."

Cut them a check and call it a day. Even having a government official look at the problem would cost 10 x that.


Prairie dogs, as far as I know, are not protected animals, and are perfectly legal to hunt as varmints all over the west.  By that, I mean that they are classified as non-game animals (same category as ground squirrels and other such pests), and don't even require a license.
 
2020-07-09 10:07:29 AM  
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2020-07-09 10:08:12 AM  
Kit Fister so far has been the most correct out of the posters in this thread.
 
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