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2020-07-08 9:35:21 PM  
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2020-07-08 9:52:05 PM  
A Federal judge?  In normal times that would go badly.
 
2020-07-08 10:02:48 PM  
Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
 
2020-07-08 10:14:14 PM  
Garnish his capital gains at 100%
 
2020-07-08 10:26:07 PM  

Butterflew: Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.


That's the next Acting Secretary of the Interior. Or Energy, also Acting.
 
2020-07-08 11:58:18 PM  

King Something: Garnish his capital gains at 100%


Drop his healthcare plan then break his legs and arms for him.
 
2020-07-09 12:25:25 AM  
Well of course we should ignore the history of spills the owner has, including in North Dakota

https://www.eenews.net/stories/106323​4​239
 
2020-07-09 12:59:18 AM  
The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.
 
2020-07-09 1:31:04 AM  

wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.


He didn't tell tell the judge "to fark off"?

Really?  Are you sure?
 
2020-07-09 3:45:59 AM  

weddingsinger: Well of course we should ignore the history of spills the owner has, including in North Dakota

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1063234​239


Nor should we forget all those times that the Dakota Access Pipeline has already spilled.
 
2020-07-09 6:42:18 AM  

wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.


Report the headline as misleading. Lil button at the bottom of the page.
 
2020-07-09 7:16:07 AM  
Pipelines spill and explode with nauseating regularity.  As long as it's more profitable that way, the spills and explosions will continue.  And it sounds like the profits exceed lawful bounds at this point.  We really ought to be taxing the ever loving shiat out of these frackers.
 
2020-07-09 8:31:59 AM  

King Something: Garnish his capital gains at 100%


200%
 
2020-07-09 8:34:29 AM  
Freeze all company assets and the personal assets of this asshat.
 
2020-07-09 8:35:31 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: King Something: Garnish his capital gains at 100%

Drop his healthcare plan then break his legs and arms for him.


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2020-07-09 8:35:45 AM  

mrshowrules: wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.

He didn't tell tell the judge "to fark off"?

Really?  Are you sure?


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2020-07-09 8:36:20 AM  
Sounds like contempt of court to me.
 
2020-07-09 8:37:02 AM  

Butterflew: Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.


The US Marshals are in DC gassing hippies.    There's no one to spare to arrest this guy.  Recess will be longer than usual this year.
 
2020-07-09 8:38:17 AM  

foo monkey: wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.

Report the headline as misleading. Lil button at the bottom of the page.


It's not just the headline, it's the tweet itself. It's either that the twit who wrote it doesn't understand the filing or is intentionally being deceptive to make it seem like the judge is being defied when what's actually happening is a pretty standard legal move that was inevitable the moment the original ruling was handed down.

Exhibit #109,762 of why Twitter submissions suck so much donkey ass.
 
2020-07-09 8:39:40 AM  
Cover him with ants and drop him in a volcano.
 
2020-07-09 8:43:12 AM  

BitwiseShift: Butterflew: Go directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

The US Marshals are in DC gassing hippies.    There's no one to spare to arrest this guy.  Recess will be longer than usual this year.


Don't forget The Battle of Portland last weekend

/weird it has such little MSM coverage
 
2020-07-09 8:44:05 AM  

wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.


hmmm... most people are not lawyers, competent or not.
 
2020-07-09 8:46:28 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Cover him with ants and drop him in a volcano.


Why do you hate ants and volcanoes?
 
2020-07-09 8:48:32 AM  
What do we expect from a company that uses dogs on protesters? and hasn't this damn thing already leaked?
 
2020-07-09 8:52:47 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:

bjlefebvre: Energy Transfer says it's not shutting down Dakota Access pipeline despite judge's order on Monday. Says judge "exceeded his authority," and anyway, a spill may never happen. https://t.co/Cflf8xkJxG


"may" is the weasel word of a coward.

See also: Donald Trump
 
2020-07-09 9:00:14 AM  

PickleBarrel: wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.

hmmm... most people are not lawyers, competent or not.


A large part of the bar exam is can you laugh the evil/sadistic cackle...  normal people can't laugh that way... it takes a special kind of deranged to be an attorney
 
2020-07-09 9:01:27 AM  
LOCK HIM UP!!!  LOCK HIM UP!!!   LOCK HIM UP!!!
LOCK HIM UP!!!  LOCK HIM UP!!!   LOCK HIM UP!!!
 
2020-07-09 9:15:28 AM  
Does the court even have to consider the second-order effects on your plans and employees personal financial investment?
 
2020-07-09 9:18:39 AM  
"The court did not fully grapple with the gravity of those consequences nor with the large number of innocent actors who would be severely affected by the decision."

Oh, won't someone please weigh the needs of the stockholders against the absolute ruin of thousands, maybe millions of acres of arable land and the water supply underneath if something goes wrong?
 
2020-07-09 9:24:56 AM  

Muta: LOCK HIM UP!!!  LOCK HIM UP!!!   LOCK HIM UP!!!
LOCK HIM UP!!!  LOCK HIM UP!!!   LOCK HIM UP!!!


LAW & ORDER!!
 
2020-07-09 9:32:26 AM  
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2020-07-09 9:38:23 AM  

Original: Original Tweet:

bjlefebvre: Energy Transfer says it's not shutting down Dakota Access pipeline despite judge's order on Monday. Says judge "exceeded his authority," and anyway, a spill may never happen. https://t.co/Cflf8xkJxG


Okay, Judge needs to issue bench warrants for the arrest of the CEO, CFO, and the entire board of directors for contempt of court.  If the pipleline isn't shut down within 48 hours, the next level of the company's leadership gets rounded up and given the same treatment.
 
2020-07-09 10:03:29 AM  
Gorsuch with the liberals on McGirt
 
2020-07-09 10:08:33 AM  

PickleBarrel: wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.

hmmm... most people are not lawyers, competent or not.


All the more reason why legal matters should be reported with particular accuracy. It's too easy to confuse and mislead the general public.
 
2020-07-09 11:13:07 AM  

wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.


You might want to reread TFA.

According to a Bloomberg report, however, Energy Transfer (the owner of the pipeline) is refusing that order. Instead, it's going right ahead with scheduling oil transport with its customers for August.

I'm no law talking guy but I can read.
 
2020-07-09 11:36:47 AM  

BMulligan: PickleBarrel: wejash: The headline is bullshiat.

They did not refuse to honor the order they're asking for a stay of his order while they appeal. It us the opposite of flouting his order, it is asking him or the appeals court, to stay it so they do not have to comply immediately.

Pipeline companies can be scummy but this is not what Lefebvre says and his snip of the pleading makes that clear to any competent lawyer.

hmmm... most people are not lawyers, competent or not.

All the more reason why legal matters should be reported with particular accuracy. It's too easy to confuse and mislead the general public.


All the more reason to have a justice system that ALL people can participate in, not just he rich who can afford the priests.
 
2020-07-09 1:16:55 PM  
Can someone explain corporate personhood to me please?

When a person commits a crime that harms or kills other people, then the person committing the crime is subject to total loss of liberty & even their very lives can be taken by the state... not just a tiny fraction of their financial value.

So how is it, legally speaking, that corporations committing egregious crimes are not able to be seized and operated or liquidated by the government?
 
2020-07-09 1:51:35 PM  

IKantEven: Can someone explain corporate personhood to me please?

When a person commits a crime that harms or kills other people, then the person committing the crime is subject to total loss of liberty & even their very lives can be taken by the state... not just a tiny fraction of their financial value.

So how is it, legally speaking, that corporations committing egregious crimes are not able to be seized and operated or liquidated by the government?


"Corporation" derives from "corpus", the latin word for body, from which "corpse" is also derived. Corporations are bodies, too, and obviously, you can't prosecute a body.
 
2020-07-10 1:51:31 AM  

evilsofa: IKantEven: Can someone explain corporate personhood to me please?

When a person commits a crime that harms or kills other people, then the person committing the crime is subject to total loss of liberty & even their very lives can be taken by the state... not just a tiny fraction of their financial value.

So how is it, legally speaking, that corporations committing egregious crimes are not able to be seized and operated or liquidated by the government?

"Corporation" derives from "corpus", the latin word for body, from which "corpse" is also derived. Corporations are bodies, too, and obviously, you can't prosecute a body.


It's interesting that the countries that have Romance languages and a legal system based on Latin code don't use "body" but SA -- société anonime, sociedad anónima, or anonymous society. Its greatest advantage is quite literally turning the stockholders and board into a body that can't be held responsible for lots of crimes, but gives them cover to own property, seize, and transfer property like a single person.

Both Latin civil code and Napoleonic Code and also English Common Law have provisions for the same idea, and they're above many laws in practice.
 
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