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(CNBC)   United warns 36,000 employees that they may not be United after October 1st   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2020-07-08 2:20:15 PM  
A pilot buddy at United heard 4,500 pilot layoffs was likely. They told him that in April.
 
2020-07-08 2:51:14 PM  
Also saw that Qantas is parking their A380 fleet in Victorville indefinitely.  We're definitely entering a new era in air travel here.
 
2020-07-08 3:32:06 PM  
I don't remember which airline my buddy spins wrenches for, but 12 years wasn't enough to prevent him from getting laid off today. Nobody is going to be doing much flying for awhile, I'm guessing.
 
2020-07-08 3:32:28 PM  
I'm sure the employees have bootstraps with which they can pull themselves up!
 
2020-07-08 3:51:21 PM  
All the flights not flown.
All the pilots not piloting.
All the flight attendants not attending.
All the planes now parked.
All the new 737 Maxes not Maxed.

Pretty soon gonna leave a mark, right?
 
2020-07-08 4:01:48 PM  
We can't fly to other countries anyway because we are NOW the shiathole country
 
2020-07-08 5:05:05 PM  
There's a lot of short term measures that have kept employees in a lot of sectors employed that will soon expire.  Another big source of upcoming layoffs is state and local governments (including things like school districts), unless the Feds bail them out.
 
2020-07-08 8:10:52 PM  
Cue up the Rhapsody in Blue.
 
2020-07-08 8:31:36 PM  
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2020-07-08 8:44:42 PM  
Yeah so how much in bonuses for executives and stock buybacks have occured in the last year and would that have tied them over?

If the answer is anywhere close I have no problem looking down and saying 'No' to a plea for help.
 
2020-07-08 8:59:12 PM  

xaldin: Yeah so how much in bonuses for executives and stock buybacks have occured in the last year and would that have tied them over?

If the answer is anywhere close I have no problem looking down and saying 'No' to a plea for help.


Well the taxpayer via the Republican congress gave them 4.5 billion at the start of the pandemic. 4.5 billion vs 63,000 family jobs...
 
2020-07-08 9:21:16 PM  
Just give them a few more billion dollars for a few more months of employment.
 
2020-07-08 9:28:36 PM  
WARNS ?
 
2020-07-08 11:46:11 PM  
This is why I'm against corporate bailouts by the government
 
2020-07-09 8:00:05 AM  
They got $5 billion in bailout money.

Their workers? "Please try the unemployment line again at another time."

/fark vampire capitalism.
//Tax capital gains NOW.
 
2020-07-09 8:19:19 AM  

solokumba: WARNS ?


Yup.  ~2250 pilots at United, ~2500 at Delta, haven't heard about American or Southwest.  JetBlue reached a deal for no furloughs until May 2021.
 
2020-07-09 10:41:35 AM  

IlGreven: They got $5 billion in bailout money.
Their workers? "Please try the unemployment line again at another time."


That money is covering payroll until Sep 30th. Without it they would have been let go early April.

If October rolls around and the demand is still not there (currently hovering around 25 percent of last year), and no signs of serious recovery, then those pilots, stewardesses, mechanics etc will have nothing to do.
 
2020-07-09 10:54:59 AM  

neaorin: IlGreven: They got $5 billion in bailout money.
Their workers? "Please try the unemployment line again at another time."


That money is covering payroll until Sep 30th. Without it they would have been let go early April.


...and you believe United on this front...why, exactly?
 
2020-07-09 11:06:03 AM  

IlGreven: neaorin: IlGreven: They got $5 billion in bailout money.
Their workers? "Please try the unemployment line again at another time."


That money is covering payroll until Sep 30th. Without it they would have been let go early April.

...and you believe United on this front...why, exactly?


Because I've looked at how the payroll protection grants have been set up under the CARES act?
Do you have any evidence that United have breached the agreement? I'd expect ALPA to react quickly and loudly if their pilots didn't receive their due money.
 
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