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(Rolling Stone)   Republicans supported Trump because they thought they could control him. Now they're tied to his necrotizing Presidency. von Papen nods   (rollingstone.com) divider line
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2020-07-07 1:15:06 PM  
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The GOP can go down with the Trumptanic.
 
2020-07-07 1:17:29 PM  
They supported Trump because he's everything they've been pushing for over 40 years.
 
2020-07-07 1:17:48 PM  
They were warned, yet they persisted.
 
2020-07-07 1:23:29 PM  
"Hey, how about we give Hitler more power so he's satisfied.  What could possibly go wrong?"
 
2020-07-07 1:47:06 PM  
What is right or wrong is decided by whether it serves their "side" or helps "the other side."
It is tribal - what Trump is or is not made of is irrelevant because he was R.
This is Fox nation - voters captured by a TV station that demonizes the "other side."
 
2020-07-07 1:50:15 PM  
"Within two months we will have pushed Hitler so far in the corner that he'll squeak," Papen boasted to a political colleague. Within a few months, von Papen basically vaguebooked about Hitler in a speech, and then, after having been spared in the Night of Long Knives, quietly went off to Turkey.

He should have been hung at Nuremburg. Instead, he wrote a whining and mendacious memoir. That's what these assholes will do.

From TFA: "This view [that draping yourself in Trump is a good decision] is so widespread that when asked, all of the consultants but two said they haven't even had a conversation about the possibility of distancing from Trump with any of their candidates or campaign teams. Another put it this way: "The idea of distancing, if it's discussed, it's discussed very quietly, it's discussed one-on-one. You wouldn't talk about it on a conference call...maybe someone would, but let's just say it hasn't happened yet and I'm on a lot of those calls." Sit with that for a second. The idea of separating from Trump is so verboten in GOP circles that the best consultants won't even talk about talking about doing it in mixed company, for fear of being stigmatized, and thus losing potential client work on other campaigns."

When it's all over, they'll say that they were never a supporter of his. In their hearts, they dissented.
 
2020-07-07 1:52:30 PM  
"Every shred of evidence points to a likely ass kicking"

It's a good thing no one listens to evidence on the right.
 
2020-07-07 1:54:19 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: They supported Trump because he's everything they've been pushing for over 40 years.


THIS, this, a thousand times THIS.

Like the Germans who voted NSDAP in the 30s, the GOP supported Trump because they agreed with him.  They still do, as a matter of fact. Their platform hasn't changed one iota.  They just don't like it that he says the quiet part out loud constantly, and that he f*cks up every damn time he turns around.
 
2020-07-07 1:59:05 PM  

west.la.lawyer: What is right or wrong is decided by whether it serves their "side" or helps "the other side."
It is tribal - what Trump is or is not made of is irrelevant because he was R.
This is Fox nation - voters captured by a TV station that demonizes the "other side."


Excellent explanation in as few words as possible.
 
2020-07-07 2:02:40 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: They supported Trump because he's everything they've been pushing for over 40 years.


At least we got it all out in the open now with no bullshiat dogwhistles.
 
2020-07-07 2:04:04 PM  

Clarence Brown: When it's all over, they'll say that they were never a supporter of his. In their hearts, they dissented.


I know people who have been saying this since the beginning.

"I'm not a Trump supporter."  - No, you are a hard-core right-winger and will defy any principle or philosophy, or ideal you claim to adhere to in order to make sure that "D" doesn't win.
 
2020-07-07 2:07:37 PM  
They had a chance to drop Trump.  Now yous can't leave.

A Bronx Tale - Now yous cant leave - Biker scene (HD)
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2020-07-07 2:08:44 PM  
"There are two options, you can be on this hell ship or you can be in the water drowning."

Speaking for the voters, we'd like you to drown.
 
2020-07-07 2:08:53 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: AdmirableSnackbar: They supported Trump because he's everything they've been pushing for over 40 years.

At least we got it all out in the open now with no bullshiat dogwhistles.


Until he's gone, after which they'll push someone like Tom Cotton who's better at using a dog whistle. I bet the Lincoln Project ends up creating all his campaign videos.
 
2020-07-07 2:09:06 PM  
Maybe they were just seriously on the fence about supporting Donald Trump and were just willing to give him a chance.
 
2020-07-07 2:09:32 PM  
fark the GOP.  They brought this on us as a nation.  They deserve every bit of retribution they get.

And they WON'T get nearly enough.
 
2020-07-07 2:09:37 PM  
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2020-07-07 2:09:49 PM  

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The GOP can go down with the Trumptanic.



Caution: Lots of F-bombs.

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2020-07-07 2:09:54 PM  
They supported the grift because they thought they'd be the grifters and not the griftees.
 
2020-07-07 2:10:06 PM  
They have done and attempted some pretty evil shiat. Just imagine what the rapepublican party really wants to achieve and what they would have been able to do when they controlled all of Congress with a majority in the Supreme Court.

Let that scare the shiat out of you and every sane voter.
 
2020-07-07 2:11:16 PM  

west.la.lawyer: What is right or wrong is decided by whether it serves their "side" or helps "the other side."
It is tribal - what Trump is or is not made of is irrelevant because he was R.
This is Fox nation - voters captured by a TV station that demonizes the "other side."


LoL. The irony - "Only Republicans are partisan - and they even demonise the other side!" in a thread full of left-wing partisans demonising Republicans.
 
2020-07-07 2:12:30 PM  
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2020-07-07 2:12:57 PM  
Clarence Brown:

When it's all over, they'll say that they were never a supporter of his. In their hearts, they dissented.


You know the old cliche' about how there are ten times as many people who claim to have been to Woodstock as were actually at Woodstock?

I've been saying for almost four years that the same is eventually going to become true about being Never-Trumpers.  There will be this massive shift of people who will all try to cleanse their own image by very publicly saying "I never liked him anyhow" - after, of course, it's all over.  This will be so pervasive, in fact, that at some point historians will be left digging to try to establish just how it is that such a man could be (a) elected and (b) wreak unfettered havoc for four years if so many people really never liked him.
 
2020-07-07 2:13:31 PM  
the GOP hasnt had a new idea in like forever. they put a figurehead at the top of their ticket and then fleece the rubes

this time the figure head was a farking moron who couldnt keep his mouth shut or off twitter,

The issue is they could have controlled Trump, its their base they cannot control and whom they fear Trump is more plugged in to. Its the membership of the republican party and the majority of them are awful people and are happy to reflect through trump. So crossing trump isnt the issue, its crossing the base and how those are intertwined

im honestly amazed they havent been in a free for all by now trying to save their jobs or party, they either know something we dont or figure their is no eject button this time
 
2020-07-07 2:13:32 PM  
This makes sense because historically, Trump has been well known to be easy to control.
 
2020-07-07 2:13:48 PM  
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2020-07-07 2:14:23 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: They supported Trump because he's everything they've been pushing for over 40 years.


Well, that and they overtonned the window so far to the right that it fell off the wall and left all the sane people in the party behind.
 
2020-07-07 2:15:13 PM  
"Sure he's a con artist, but I know that about him so he can't con me! I'll help him take advantage of his marks who are to ignorant to catch what's going on, and I'll use his ignorance and inexperience at politics to sway him to my preferred political outcomes!"

Then they are shocked they got fleeced.
 
2020-07-07 2:15:24 PM  

Shaggy_C: LoL. The irony - "Only Republicans are partisan - and they even demonise the other side!" in a thread full of left-wing partisans demonising Republicans.


They pretty much demonized themselves, actually.
 
2020-07-07 2:15:37 PM  
+1 Subby.  Barr has my nomination for von Papen cover band, even if he does look like Goering.
 
2020-07-07 2:15:39 PM  
As, if I remember correctly, Victor Frankenstein "thought" he could control his creation......(also FRAHNK-en-steen in Young Frankenstein, but I digress).
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2020-07-07 2:16:06 PM  

Weatherkiss: Maybe they were just seriously on the fence about supporting Donald Trump and were just willing to give him a chance.


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2020-07-07 2:16:46 PM  

Herbie555: Clarence Brown:

When it's all over, they'll say that they were never a supporter of his. In their hearts, they dissented.


You know the old cliche' about how there are ten times as many people who claim to have been to Woodstock as were actually at Woodstock?

I've been saying for almost four years that the same is eventually going to become true about being Never-Trumpers.  There will be this massive shift of people who will all try to cleanse their own image by very publicly saying "I never liked him anyhow" - after, of course, it's all over.  This will be so pervasive, in fact, that at some point historians will be left digging to try to establish just how it is that such a man could be (a) elected and (b) wreak unfettered havoc for four years if so many people really never liked him.


We already saw this, just 11 years ago:
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2020-07-07 2:17:59 PM  

kindms: The issue is they could have controlled Trump, its their base they cannot control and whom they fear Trump is more plugged in to


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2020-07-07 2:18:24 PM  
No, they loved it. Don't let them say otherwise.
 
2020-07-07 2:18:29 PM  

Shaggy_C: west.la.lawyer: What is right or wrong is decided by whether it serves their "side" or helps "the other side."
It is tribal - what Trump is or is not made of is irrelevant because he was R.
This is Fox nation - voters captured by a TV station that demonizes the "other side."

LoL. The irony - "Only Republicans are partisan - and they even demonise the other side!" in a thread full of left-wing partisans demonising Republicans.


That's projection.

And you don't know what demonizing means. Condemning someone for what they actually did is not demonizing. It isn't demonizing Hitler to say that he was a racist fark responsible for the deaths of millions.

It isn't demonizing the GOP to say that it has engaged in race-baiting, demagogic, toxic populism for years, and has chosen to support an incompetent, unstable, chaotic, easily-manipulated grifter. It's true.
 
2020-07-07 2:19:39 PM  
In 2 years the GOP will say that Trump was a Democrat plant.
 
2020-07-07 2:19:41 PM  
Beto O'Rourke not running for Senate may turn out to be one of the dumbest political moves of all time.
 
2020-07-07 2:19:44 PM  

kindms: im honestly amazed they havent been in a free for all by now trying to save their jobs or party, they either know something we dont or figure their is no eject button this time


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2020-07-07 2:22:17 PM  
Well, I guess the matter of corrective action is to fire all of them too...
 
2020-07-07 2:22:31 PM  
So, it will be interesting to see what happens for Alabama:  It looks likely that Tommy Tuberville will win his primary runoff next week, and very likely win a senate seat in the fall.  His one and only qualification seems to be how much Trump ass he will kiss.  So if Tommy is elected and Trump isn't, Tommy may actually have to learn how government works.
 
2020-07-07 2:22:43 PM  

Shaggy_C: west.la.lawyer: What is right or wrong is decided by whether it serves their "side" or helps "the other side."
It is tribal - what Trump is or is not made of is irrelevant because he was R.
This is Fox nation - voters captured by a TV station that demonizes the "other side."

LoL. The irony - "Only Republicans are partisan - and they even demonise the other side!" in a thread full of left-wing partisans demonising Republicans.


Your gonna get banned for pointing that out, you know.
 
2020-07-07 2:24:59 PM  
They had a chance early on when the GOP leadership could have gone to him and told him to STFU, stop tweeting and do what he is told or they would release all the dirt on him, taxes, lawsuits, sexual assaults and made up a bunch of shiat to scare the crap out of him. But nope they let him take over and make them his gimps for fear of his mythical base. So fark em all and let em burn and I hope they never get the stink of Trump off of them.
 
2020-07-07 2:26:22 PM  
Like the Fark Independents™ that suddenly appeared when Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq went sour.  Even though we all knew they supported it from the beginning and called everybody who didn't "un-American".
 
2020-07-07 2:27:21 PM  

kindms: the GOP hasnt had a new idea in like forever. they put a figurehead at the top of their ticket and then fleece the rubes

this time the figure head was a farking moron who couldnt keep his mouth shut or off twitter,

The issue is they could have controlled Trump, its their base they cannot control and whom they fear Trump is more plugged in to. Its the membership of the republican party and the majority of them are awful people and are happy to reflect through trump. So crossing trump isnt the issue, its crossing the base and how those are intertwined

im honestly amazed they havent been in a free for all by now trying to save their jobs or party, they either know something we dont or figure their is no eject button this time


It's either 1 of 2 things:
1) They don't feel they'll suffer any long term consequences. As they learned from the GWB administration, no matter how unpopular a Republican president gets, 2 years after he is out of office, no one cares and will go right back to voting straight ticket R.
2) They know Trump plans on cheating like a motherfarker and dont want to end up on his bad side when he turns into America's Putin.
 
2020-07-07 2:29:12 PM  
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2020-07-07 2:29:44 PM  

ohioman: Weatherkiss: Maybe they were just seriously on the fence about supporting Donald Trump and were just willing to give him a chance.

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2020-07-07 2:30:46 PM  
Interesting article. A couple thoughts:

1) completely absent from any of the 9 - any consideration of what would be good for our country, that Trump and the way he behaves has more negative impacts than just making it more difficult for their little republican clients getting elected. Like, this dude is doing major damage to our economy, health, and world standing. But, nope, the only thing that matters is if more republicans can get elected than D's for them

2) at one point there's mention of how evil Lincoln Project is for going after "innocent" GOP senators. There is not a single innocent GOP Senator. Even Mitt Romney, while maybe OK for some narrow portions of the impeachment fight, has stood with Trump's party on every move to reduce accountability and transparency in this government. They all deserve to go to the gallows with Trump, as one unit.
 
2020-07-07 2:32:17 PM  

groppet: They had a chance early on when the GOP leadership could have gone to him and told him to STFU, stop tweeting and do what he is told or they would release all the dirt on him, taxes, lawsuits, sexual assaults and made up a bunch of shiat to scare the crap out of him. But nope they let him take over and make them his gimps for fear of his mythical base. So fark em all and let em burn and I hope they never get the stink of Trump off of them.


That is easy to understand. There are very, very few actual leaders in the Republican party. For all of Trump's failings, he at least makes decisions, bad decisions more often than not, but decisions none the less. The rest of the party are just followers, incapable of applying critical thought in their rush to lick the boot. There are some exceptions, none of which exist as republicans on Fark anymore.
 
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