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(Washington Examiner)   "Fark, this is actually happening" - an oral history of Andy McCabe's briefing to Robert Mueller on Trump-Russia collusion. Bonus quote: "Were these people just rogue morons?"   (washingtonexaminer.com) divider line
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2020-07-07 2:17:57 PM  
Everyone knows the Russian collusion happened. Giuliani outright confirmed it. Not enough people seem to give  shiat. And Mueller turned out to be useless.
 
2020-07-07 2:45:48 PM  

Mugato: Everyone knows the Russian collusion happened. Giuliani outright confirmed it. Not enough people seem to give  shiat. And Mueller turned out to be useless.


Yes, there were dozens of US citizens indicted on charges of Russian collusion, yet we still have Trump in office.

This is a travesty that needs to be addressed at the voting booth.
 
2020-07-07 3:31:11 PM  
I'm old enough to remember Robert Mueller, who could have shifted the world, wheedle and mutter like an old man eating pudding in front of the House.
 
2020-07-07 7:43:47 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'm old enough to remember Robert Mueller, who could have shifted the world, wheedle and mutter like an old man eating pudding in front of the House.


It doesn't matter what honors he may have earned in his life, that failure is his epithet.
 
2020-07-07 7:43:59 PM  
Even if Mueller hadn't been cockblocked by Barr, it wouldn't have mattered.

McConnell had the GOP set on hill to die on in the Senate, and it was all moot then in February.

/now there's the visibility problem of all these little American corpses, unemployed folks and bankrupt small business guys piling around the hill ...
 
2020-07-07 7:44:12 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'm old enough to remember Robert Mueller, who could have shifted the world, wheedle and mutter like an old man eating pudding in front of the House.


I remember that the DOJ also buried a bunch of the report and only released what they wanted the world to see
 
2020-07-07 7:46:28 PM  
None of this matters unless we all turn out in November and vote "present"
 
2020-07-07 7:47:01 PM  
This is a deadly serious issue and the Washington Examiner decided to report that someone uttered the F-word.
 
2020-07-07 7:51:25 PM  
What the hell does a guy like Mueller think about the bullschit Trump is pulling with the rape of the Dept. of Justice?
 
2020-07-07 7:51:34 PM  
Pelosi's waffling was the problem. If she acted immediately upon the shutdown of the investigation and pursued charges of obstruction, the outcome may have been different. The delay to impeach offered nothing but fodder for Trump's supporters.
 
2020-07-07 7:55:00 PM  
"Rogue Morons" is not the name of my death-metal garage band, but the name of my staffing solution company which provides on-call half-wits for hire to the Trump administration.
 
2020-07-07 7:56:13 PM  

Supadope: Pelosi's waffling was the problem. If she acted immediately upon the shutdown of the investigation and pursued charges of obstruction, the outcome may have been different. The delay to impeach offered nothing but fodder for Trump's supporters.


Nope. The Turtle, remember. Obstructionist par excellance. He was never, ever going to allow an impeachment vote to succeed in the Senate.
 
2020-07-07 8:03:55 PM  

Supadope: Pelosi's waffling was the problem. If she acted immediately upon the shutdown of the investigation and pursued charges of obstruction, the outcome may have been different. The delay to impeach offered nothing but fodder for Trump's supporters.


Yeah, I'm sure that would have changed a lot of minds
 
2020-07-07 8:06:41 PM  
His (Muller's) team was unable to find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the report did lay out 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice.


Recall, Mueller has admitted that there could have been a conspiracy, it's just that they couldn't find it because of all the obstruction of justice --- which he seemingly believed was enough to impeach Trump. He pretty clearly told Congress that the remedy was granted to them by the Constitution. He could not indict.

The problem with Mueller was that he was an old school straight shooter who expected others to be as honest and trustworthy as himself. How he could feel that way after years in DC is a bit of a mystery to some. Others see it. He chose to live outside the swamp by living by a code and simply expected others to do the same. It's how he kept clean.
 
2020-07-07 8:10:07 PM  

Supadope: Pelosi's waffling was the problem. If she acted immediately upon the shutdown of the investigation and pursued charges of obstruction, the outcome may have been different. The delay to impeach offered nothing but fodder for Trump's supporters.


Were you even born yet? Because there was just about zero GOP appetite for impeachment. Barr's PR campaign was very effective. Pretend you have some insights into the world if you like but pretending that you have better political insights than someone who rose to Speaker of the House?

Hey, Martha, we've got a random internet genius here on the internet.
 
2020-07-07 8:10:23 PM  

Aar1012: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'm old enough to remember Robert Mueller, who could have shifted the world, wheedle and mutter like an old man eating pudding in front of the House.

I remember that the DOJ also buried a bunch of the report and only released what they wanted the world to see


I was watching the Barr "release party" of the report at the gym where I work out before work.  Let's just say, it's a crowd that, for Seattle, is pretty mixed in their political allegiances.  So, therefore, I never really talk politics.  It's not a noble thing, but I just don't feel like getting a grumpy on with strangers before going in to work 8 hours.

In any case, when Barr came out and addressed the obstruction of justice issue by saying something like "but you have to understand the mindset of the President..." I lost it.  Here was the chief law enforcement officer of the land, taking 10 counts of clear obstruction of justice, and saying that it didn't matter because the President was really mad that the investigation was happening.  Like ANYBODY who commits obstruction is happy that they are being investigated.  I blurted something out like "He's not the President's lawyer!", and stomped out of the room.

In any case, that still pisses me off.  It's probably the point when I realized that there was no doubt that Bill Barr was a crook and a traitor.
 
2020-07-07 8:14:30 PM  

wademh:

His (Muller's) team was unable to find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the report did lay out 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice.


Recall, Mueller has admitted that there could have been a conspiracy, it's just that they couldn't find it because of all the obstruction of justice --- which he seemingly believed was enough to impeach Trump. He pretty clearly told Congress that the remedy was granted to them by the Constitution. He could not indict.

The problem with Mueller was that he was an old school straight shooter who expected others to be as honest and trustworthy as himself. How he could feel that way after years in DC is a bit of a mystery to some. Others see it. He chose to live outside the swamp by living by a code and simply expected others to do the same. It's how he kept clean.


Unpopular opinion: Mueller did his job, and he did it well.
 
2020-07-07 8:21:23 PM  
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What if those random really old accounts that pop by once in a while with very strong rightwing viewpoints are Kremlin trolls? But they've mostly abandoned Fark for unmoderated hellholes.
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Andy McCabe's book sounds good.
 
2020-07-07 8:25:44 PM  
It would have been awesome if the farkers writing these books had come forward and made all this shiat public about two years ago.
 
2020-07-07 8:28:18 PM  
"Fark, this is actually happening"
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2020-07-07 8:40:40 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: Unpopular opinion: Mueller did his job, and he did it well.


Mueller adhered far too much to an old, self-serving, and far too deferential internal memo saying the DOJ is not allowed to indict a president or even accuse a president of a crime.  To make it worse, Mueller also extended those restrictions to Trump's sons.  What this all meant was Mueller seemed to not want to follow any line of investigation too far if it might result in finding evidence of crimes committed by any Trump.

It's why we have all of these empty roads not driven down.
- We have Trump as "Individual-1" as Cohen's unindicted co-conspriator.  We have Trump's son actively trying to accept foreign help, but that wasn't ever fully explored by the DOJ because of the dumb memo.
- We have Trump's friend Stone on the verge of going to prison, but Mueller didn't dig too far into Trump's involvement or knowledge of what Stone was doing.
- We have Trump's own many instances of obstruction that are factually described by Mueller, but Mueller went so far out of his way to avoid drawing a conclusion about those actions that Barr and Trump ran with it as an exoneration.
- We have Trump loading his campaign up with people who made their money from foreign governments.  Manafort and Gates got illegally rich by supporting Russia's interests in Ukraine.  Flynn made a lot of money illegally from Turkey.  These are deeply crooked people Trump hired and put in major positions.
 
2020-07-07 8:46:23 PM  
Mueller wasn't useless. He did the GOP a massive service and did it in a way that looked good to the American people.

A few corrupt buffoons who had outlived their usefulness went down, but everyone in power stayed nice and safe.

And it would have worked if Trump hadn't been too stupid to see it and too ignorant to be let in on it by people who did.

Trump could've thanked Mueller for exposing dangerous rogue elements on his team and come out looking like he could at least pay lipservice to law and order.
 
2020-07-07 9:14:35 PM  
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Thanks, Bob. Republic still fell, but at least the Paladin got to feel good about how lawful he was.
 
2020-07-07 9:20:42 PM  

Troy McClure: Mueller adhered far too much to an old, self-serving, and far too deferential internal memo saying the DOJ is not allowed to indict a president or even accuse a president of a crime.  To make it worse, Mueller also extended those restrictions to Trump's sons.  What this all meant was Mueller seemed to not want to follow any line of investigation too far if it might result in finding evidence of crimes committed by any Trump.


I think he expected Congress to put two and two together from what he presented. I think he believed what he provided was enough. Because in the past, it would have been. This time it wasn't because of complicit republicans who were worried about losing their seats.
 
2020-07-07 9:21:00 PM  

phygz: This is a travesty that needs to be addressed at the voting booth.


It's ridiculous that our system is vulnerable in such a way that the voting booth is the only legal means available right now to address the issue, not to mention the many other pressing issues of the Trump presidency including the crimes against humanity happening at migrant detention centers and the what-should-be-criminally-negligent manner in which the COVID19 pandemic is being handled. 

These are things that have needed to be addressed immediately, but because of the outright corruption in (at least) 1 1/2 branches of the US government, they cannot be addressed for months until we get to attempt to overcome the obstacles of vote suppression, misinformation campaigns, depressed voter turnout due to the pandemic, and perhaps even outright vote tampering in order to do the bare minimum of attempting to vote these scumbags out of their positions of power.

It's f*cking disgusting. >:(
 
2020-07-07 9:26:09 PM  

mamoru: phygz: This is a travesty that needs to be addressed at the voting booth.

It's ridiculous that our system is vulnerable in such a way that the voting booth is the only legal means available right now to address the issue, not to mention the many other pressing issues of the Trump presidency including the crimes against humanity happening at migrant detention centers and the what-should-be-criminally-negligent manner in which the COVID19 pandemic is being handled. 

These are things that have needed to be addressed immediately, but because of the outright corruption in (at least) 1 1/2 branches of the US government, they cannot be addressed for months until we get to attempt to overcome the obstacles of vote suppression, misinformation campaigns, depressed voter turnout due to the pandemic, and perhaps even outright vote tampering in order to do the bare minimum of attempting to vote these scumbags out of their positions of power.

It's f*cking disgusting. >:(


At least the founders had the good sense to limit terms to 4 years.

4 years is deliberately short to ward off using murder for regime change.
Voting was invented to be the alternative to using murder for regime change.

Also dueling was legal back then.
They expected there to be a long line cued up to handle Trump.
 
2020-07-07 9:39:22 PM  
Wait. I was assured, by a strongly-worded, ALL-CAPS tweet that our president was "TOTALLY EXONERATED" of these charges. Surely you're not suggesting this man lied to us all?!
 
2020-07-07 9:53:31 PM  

ViolentEastCoastCity: wademh: His (Muller's) team was unable to find a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the report did lay out 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice.

Recall, Mueller has admitted that there could have been a conspiracy, it's just that they couldn't find it because of all the obstruction of justice --- which he seemingly believed was enough to impeach Trump. He pretty clearly told Congress that the remedy was granted to them by the Constitution. He could not indict.

The problem with Mueller was that he was an old school straight shooter who expected others to be as honest and trustworthy as himself. How he could feel that way after years in DC is a bit of a mystery to some. Others see it. He chose to live outside the swamp by living by a code and simply expected others to do the same. It's how he kept clean.

Unpopular opinion: Mueller did his job, and he did it well.


Not actually the words I would use. As a pragmatist, I think he was a fool. He let himself get played by Barr.
And seriously now, the words are up there. "expected others to do the same."  Expecting politicians to be honorable?

I've met people like Mueller. They might ask "what else could I do?"  The answer is obvious, Be More Direct.

The language where he basically tells Congress that it's there job to impeach is almost artful in it's obliqueness. But such language is what his dishonest clients use to skate past and distort the truth. Write "We cannot take the next step and charge the President for Obstruction of Justice. The remedy rests with Congress as their Constitutional duty."
 
2020-07-07 10:23:02 PM  

Purple_Urkle: O_o
What if those random really old accounts that pop by once in a while with very strong rightwing viewpoints are Kremlin trolls? But they've mostly abandoned Fark for unmoderated hellholes.
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Andy McCabe's book sounds good.


It is pretty good.
 
2020-07-08 12:35:36 AM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: I'm old enough to remember Robert Mueller, who could have shifted the world, wheedle and mutter like an old man eating pudding in front of the House.

It doesn't matter what honors he may have earned in his life, that failure is his epithet.


Epitaph, even.
 
2020-07-08 12:49:31 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: What the hell does a guy like Mueller think about the bullschit Trump is pulling with the rape of the Dept. of Justice?



who cares, he could have helped end this  nightmare.
 
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