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2020-07-07 4:29:13 AM  

mrshowrules: feckingmorons: India banned it last week.
Tiktok will lose six billion dollars. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffma​n/2020/07/04/tiktok-loses-6-billion-as​-users-urged-delete-app-immediately/#7​d689c521c98

How does tiktok make money?
If you like it keep it, enjoy the Chinese Communist Party spying on you.

I'm just curious, did you have issues with Tiktok before dear leader said it was bad?


I don't often agree with him, in fact I can count on no hands the number of times I've agreed with him before this, but it's a valid point: CCP builds back doors into EVERYTHING.

Even if they didn't, they can just say to TikTok "give us all your user data, or we'll throw you all in prison."

That said: the timing of this is what gives it away that Trump doesn't give a fark that they're spying, he's just pissed that his rallies are getting farked with and yelled at Pompous to fix it.
 
2020-07-07 4:30:09 AM  
China is an authoritarian dictatorship, no company from China is not beholdant to the CCP and Xi, every Chinese company should be approached as dealing directly with the CCP and Xi.  If you think they treat their own people badly, then remember that to them outsiders are worse than dogs, because at least you can eat dogs.
 
2020-07-07 4:34:01 AM  

Keethera: mrshowrules: puffy999: TikTok was bad before Trump gave a shiat.

I'm not disputing that but it is quite shocking how Trump not liking something will so quick to trigger so many people who never gave a thought of it before.

this is one of those broken clock is right twice a day moments


No.  It is because when I think, "Which one of these 2 is more likely to cause the death of me or my friends and family?"  The answer is Trump.
 
2020-07-07 4:36:34 AM  

NateAsbestos: Facebook still ok apparently


Yes I know the "Total Information Management" (TIM) that we have suffered since Bush & S11 is bad and needs a hell of a lot more oversight, but a bit like people in most modern western democracies accept that cops can have guns but most of us shouldn't - TIM in the hands of an authoritarian dictator is farking dangerous to everyone.
 
2020-07-07 4:37:01 AM  
To be fair, Subby, they did make him look like a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii​iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiatch
 
2020-07-07 4:43:34 AM  
Trump has bigger problems than TikTok. People hate his lazy dumbass and want him gone.
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2020-07-07 4:47:28 AM  

feckingmorons: India banned it last week.
Tiktok will lose six billion dollars. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffma​n/2020/07/04/tiktok-loses-6-billion-as​-users-urged-delete-app-immediately/#7​d689c521c98

How does tiktok make money?
If you like it keep it, enjoy the Chinese Communist Party spying on you.


India banned it because they got into a fight with China's military.
 
2020-07-07 4:48:48 AM  

dickfreckle: feckingmorons: India banned it last week.
Tiktok will lose six billion dollars. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffma​n/2020/07/04/tiktok-loses-6-billion-as​-users-urged-delete-app-immediately/#7​d689c521c98

How does tiktok make money?
If you like it keep it, enjoy the Chinese Communist Party spying on you.

I'll enjoy it as much as I enjoyed Trump publicly inviting Russia to wreak havoc on our elections.


Look, fecking is a buffoon, but tiktok is actually garbage and no one should have it on their phone.  I've been aware of the fact that they are basically ccp malware for months; he could have read the same info I read.  I'm the last person to defend him, but his hatred for tiktok could very likely have nothing to do with Trump.
 
2020-07-07 4:50:12 AM  

Shagbert: Subby, you misspelled "all because Tiktok have been repeatedly caught by Apple and assorted security researchers spying on their users for the Chinese government". Might have been an autocorrect or something...


Every social media app that doesn't incorporate some form of end-to-end encryption is used as a means to spy on users.  How do you think they target ads at you?  Mind reading?
 
2020-07-07 4:53:46 AM  

mrshowrules: MrBallou: pxlboy: TikTok sucks.

/old

I don't know much about it (also old), but the yougnuns seem to like it a lot.

I forget why I'm supposed to be so much more scared of ChiComs than home-grown thought manipulators, anyway. Seems like the GOP/Trump people are a lot more dangerous.

Without getting into too much detail - they created lots of work for me.  TikTok was the primary social media platform that was propagating the 5G/COVID-19 conspiracy theory.


5G conspiracy nonsense has been swimming through the Internet longer than tiktok has been around.  Hell, the same bullshiat was being spread about 3G and 4G as well despite all the evidence it's safe being freely available for years.
 
2020-07-07 5:00:10 AM  
In other news, millions of teenagers are Google VPNs
 
2020-07-07 5:13:31 AM  

Catlenfell: In other news, millions of teenagers are Google VPNs


We can just unplug them then.
 
2020-07-07 5:14:51 AM  

Shagbert: Subby, you misspelled "all because Tiktok have been repeatedly caught by Apple and assorted security researchers spying on their users for the Chinese government". Might have been an autocorrect or something...


Its owned by the Chinese government, of course its spying
 
2020-07-07 5:15:58 AM  

fragMasterFlash: Anyone over 24 on TikTok needs to have a seat right over there.


Hold on there, there's also lots of crazy people with drug problems that post stuff
 
2020-07-07 5:18:33 AM  
So, Donnie's account is just not seeing a lot of activity then? His "Presidentin' While Fat" series is not gaining any ground then?
 
2020-07-07 5:19:50 AM  
If TikTok gets banned all i have to say is "Nothing of Value was Lost."

Seriously it's the dumbest app on the planet. Why it's so popular is beyond me.
 
2020-07-07 5:19:58 AM  

feckingmorons: India banned it last week.
Tiktok will lose six billion dollars. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffma​n/2020/07/04/tiktok-loses-6-billion-as​-users-urged-delete-app-immediately/#7​d689c521c98

How does tiktok make money?
If you like it keep it, enjoy the Chinese Communist Party spying on you.


India is also trying to go to WAR with China over their border disputes.
 
2020-07-07 5:29:33 AM  
If the NSA wants to make a TikTok clone and keep out the foreign spies, fine with me.
 
2020-07-07 5:43:08 AM  

MrBallou: pxlboy: TikTok sucks.

/old

I don't know much about it (also old), but the yougnuns seem to like it a lot.

I forget why I'm supposed to be so much more scared of ChiComs than home-grown thought manipulators, anyway. Seems like the GOP/Trump people are a lot more dangerous.


Jesus fark.  Can you people even manage to walk and chew gum at the same time?  No one said 'more'.
 
2020-07-07 5:56:12 AM  

Massively Multiplayer Addict: If TikTok gets banned all i have to say is "Nothing of Value was Lost."

Seriously it's the dumbest app on the planet. Why it's so popular is beyond me.


Because we live in a world where internet users have the attention span of a mayfly (sic). TikTok is just the replacement of Vine, and it will be replaced by something else in two months.
Whats funny is how slow old world corporations are at adapting. Back when Pokemon Go had its three month craze, Sprint created an ad campaign that revolved around the game and they didn't release it till like months after the game was no longer popular.
 
2020-07-07 6:06:21 AM  

Murkanen: Shagbert: Subby, you misspelled "all because Tiktok have been repeatedly caught by Apple and assorted security researchers spying on their users for the Chinese government". Might have been an autocorrect or something...

Every social media app that doesn't incorporate some form of end-to-end encryption is used as a means to spy on users.  How do you think they target ads at you?  Mind reading?


This right here.

I was behind a dude buying a pack of smokes today. He was live streaming on facebook and then got pissed when the clerk asked to scan his ID. (In our state the back of the ID can be scanned to confirm age and some stores require it to ensure the ID was present).

Dude flipped the fark out. He was ranting and raving about how the guy scanning his ID for him to buy smokes was spying on him, but the fact Facebook had his location down to the foot and he had completely allowed it was some how missed on him.

It drives me nuts. I have been a gamer forever. As soon as they had Free to Play games I knew we were the things be sold. It is a trade off.

I understand the concerns some are stating, but if you use ANY free app and many paid apps, you give your permission for them to crawl up your ass like a chilean miner.

That is what is in the huge privacy notifications that most people hand wave away.

I just understand I am not that important.
 
2020-07-07 6:08:39 AM  

Massively Multiplayer Addict: If TikTok gets banned all i have to say is "Nothing of Value was Lost."

Seriously it's the dumbest app on the planet. Why it's so popular is beyond me.


Because everyone has a mama that never ever told them how untalented they were.  It used to be that you had to go on national tv, like American Idol auditions, to hear the brutal truth that while a blessed few can sing, most of us just squall and squawk.  These days, everyone has a camera and microphone handy and they are, by God, going to get discovered without having to work hard or have actual talent.
 
2020-07-07 6:25:46 AM  
I have a burner laptop for zoom calls.  Have no reason to tik tok.
 
2020-07-07 6:59:43 AM  

MrBallou: pxlboy: TikTok sucks.

/old

I don't know much about it (also old), but the yougnuns seem to like it a lot.

I forget why I'm supposed to be so much more scared of ChiComs than home-grown thought manipulators, anyway. Seems like the GOP/Trump people are a lot more dangerous.


If there's an app used by the US government to spy on people you should probably stop using that one too.
 
2020-07-07 7:03:03 AM  

haknudsen: Keethera: mrshowrules: puffy999: TikTok was bad before Trump gave a shiat.

I'm not disputing that but it is quite shocking how Trump not liking something will so quick to trigger so many people who never gave a thought of it before.

this is one of those broken clock is right twice a day moments

No.  It is because when I think, "Which one of these 2 is more likely to cause the death of me or my friends and family?"  The answer is Trump.


Did someone tell you TikTok was going to kill you and your family?
 
2020-07-07 7:03:22 AM  
I don't care if it's because Donnie got his feelings hurt.  Getting Tik Tok banned?

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2020-07-07 7:04:57 AM  

Lovesandwich: At this point, if you have an app on your phone, it is probably spying on you.

 
2020-07-07 7:06:11 AM  
Back in my day we called TikToks Vines. Gimmie ten Vines to the minute, you'd say.
 
2020-07-07 7:10:36 AM  
See, I just don't care who spies on me. Like I'm that important.

Oh noes, you'll find out I like alcohol, porn and sports.

....
 
2020-07-07 7:14:45 AM  

Publikwerks: See, I just don't care who spies on me. Like I'm that important.

Oh noes, you'll find out I like alcohol, porn and sports.

....


They will also find out that you read, are curious and because you are on fark that you are likely an agitator and if necessary will be removed (authoritarians prefer to be safe than sorry and individual people are unimportant.)
 
2020-07-07 7:18:43 AM  

Langdon_777: Publikwerks: See, I just don't care who spies on me. Like I'm that important.

Oh noes, you'll find out I like alcohol, porn and sports.

....

They will also find out that you read, are curious and because you are on fark that you are likely an agitator and if necessary will be removed (authoritarians prefer to be safe than sorry and individual people are unimportant.)


I don't think China has a whole lot of jurisdiction in the US, Canada, Mexico, or the UK.
 
2020-07-07 7:25:26 AM  

cherryl taggart: Massively Multiplayer Addict: If TikTok gets banned all i have to say is "Nothing of Value was Lost."

Seriously it's the dumbest app on the planet. Why it's so popular is beyond me.

Because everyone has a mama that never ever told them how untalented they were.  It used to be that you had to go on national tv, like American Idol auditions, to hear the brutal truth that while a blessed few can sing, most of us just squall and squawk.  These days, everyone has a camera and microphone handy and they are, by God, going to get discovered without having to work hard or have actual talent.


I have opened it sometimes to watch Tabitha Brown cook. I love her. There's other stuff like that, too, and also I think people just like to watch others enjoying themselves. It's mostly very positive.

I am avoiding it for now, of course, but it's too bad these blanket assumptions lead to lofty negativity.
 
2020-07-07 7:31:54 AM  

Murkanen: Langdon_777: Publikwerks: See, I just don't care who spies on me. Like I'm that important.

Oh noes, you'll find out I like alcohol, porn and sports.

....

They will also find out that you read, are curious and because you are on fark that you are likely an agitator and if necessary will be removed (authoritarians prefer to be safe than sorry and individual people are unimportant.)

I don't think China has a whole lot of jurisdiction in the US, Canada, Mexico, or the UK.


Well not right now!  Though if you are an immigrant from China who still has family there, then ....
 
2020-07-07 7:33:37 AM  
I think a lot of Fark users are a bit more tech savvy and may have more of a clue as to TikTok and the spying than I. I have always assumed anything on my phone was being tracked just because of the agreements you sign when you download any app.

That being said, what could anyone really find out about my from spying? I rarely use my phone for anything other than Fark, eBay, music apps and free games. Posting on Fark is the closest I get to social media, so this doesn't affect me at all, other than the timing of this is so obvious that this is due to Trump's hurt feelings over his rallies they supposedly messed with. The spying thing is just a convenient scapegoat. While it may be spying, this is all about his fragile ego.
 
2020-07-07 7:42:54 AM  

Sugarmoobs: I think a lot of Fark users are a bit more tech savvy and may have more of a clue as to TikTok and the spying than I. I have always assumed anything on my phone was being tracked just because of the agreements you sign when you download any app.

That being said, what could anyone really find out about my from spying? I rarely use my phone for anything other than Fark, eBay, music apps and free games. Posting on Fark is the closest I get to social media, so this doesn't affect me at all, other than the timing of this is so obvious that this is due to Trump's hurt feelings over his rallies they supposedly messed with. The spying thing is just a convenient scapegoat. While it may be spying, this is all about his fragile ego.


Tiktok takes your copy/paste page everytime you log in - so if you have copied your password from a password wallet, they have it, etc.  Sure a lot of other apps do it, but let us be honest a US/EU app will have laws restricting it, whereas Chinese apps have no law restricting anything because the law and the app are the same thing.
 
2020-07-07 7:50:49 AM  

drumhellar: Considering how many TikTok users are teenagers, it seems counterproductive to use it to mine data about Americans and other people when it's probably far easier, faster, cheaper, and more reliable to simply purchase the data from the countless brokers that sell the same information that might be gleaned from a TikTok account.
Plus that can be done in secret.


They could be playing a bit of a long game going after teenagers who'll be in positions of influence in the future.

Also, knowing the social networking contacts of the younger Chinese diaspora, including their non-Chinese friends could create opportunities for leverage when they feel the need to put a lid on criticism abroad. Sure 99% of the information is useless, but it's cheap to collect.
 
2020-07-07 7:56:06 AM  

feckingmorons: Chinese Communist Party


I do love it when the MAGAts really want to rile themselves up, they throw the word communist in there. Not just China... COMMUNIST China. As if it were still the 1950s and we were under a Red Scare.
 
2020-07-07 7:57:42 AM  

propasaurus: OK, fine. Tik tok is horrible. What are they going to do about Facebook and Twitter right in our own backyard?


Yeah whatabout Facebook and Twitter!
 
2020-07-07 7:58:50 AM  

Shagbert: Subby, you misspelled "all because Tiktok have been repeatedly caught by Apple and assorted security researchers spying on their users for the Chinese government". Might have been an autocorrect or something...


But the enemy of my enemy is my friend and Trump bad so TikTok good.
 
2020-07-07 8:00:40 AM  
Online Lyme disease forum Tick Talk still ok?
 
2020-07-07 8:03:50 AM  
When will America make apps great again?
 
2020-07-07 8:08:09 AM  

Shagbert: Subby, you misspelled "all because Tiktok have been repeatedly caught by Apple and assorted security researchers spying on their users for the Chinese government". Might have been an autocorrect or something...


No, that's not why Pompeo is saying this. Pomeo is saying this because Trump told him to and Trump told him to because of the news reports of TikTok users farking up his Klan rally in Tulsa.

The security problems are entirely unrelated to the administration's new posture on the app.
 
2020-07-07 8:14:01 AM  
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2020-07-07 8:19:05 AM  
I find the implications for liberty of the government picking & choosing media applications to ban or allow far worse than those applications aggregating & using information their users give them voluntarily.

One should assume apps like this slurp up your use/location/etc info and use it how they want.

Assume TikTok is the absolute worst, and China's using it to track people and their videos and use and opinions, etc. So the hell what. The people using it are willingly allowing that info to be collected. It's not a damned mind control device. The gov't has no role in regulating whether individuals want to voluntarily share their info with a private company. I have no interest in allowing the government to tell me who I may or may not share my own personal info with.
 
2020-07-07 8:20:00 AM  
Langdon_777:

Though if you are an immigrant from China who still has family there, then ....

Then I'd continue to not be affected because I don't use silly videoshare apps like TikTok?
 
2020-07-07 8:22:43 AM  

Langdon_777: China is an authoritarian dictatorship, no company from China is not beholdant to the CCP and Xi, every Chinese company should be approached as dealing directly with the CCP and Xi.  If you think they treat their own people badly, then remember that to them outsiders are worse than dogs, because at least you can eat dogs.


Ladies and Gentlemen, behold the results of drinking too much of the orange Kool-Aid.

I may have lost your point in all of the racism, is it that we should have engagement with China to ensure the edges of our spheres of influence are smooth?
 
2020-07-07 8:23:48 AM  

Murkanen: Langdon_777: Publikwerks: See, I just don't care who spies on me. Like I'm that important.

Oh noes, you'll find out I like alcohol, porn and sports.

....

They will also find out that you read, are curious and because you are on fark that you are likely an agitator and if necessary will be removed (authoritarians prefer to be safe than sorry and individual people are unimportant.)

I don't think China has a whole lot of jurisdiction in the US, Canada, Mexico, or the UK.


Yeah, ifChina is working to take me out, Kudos to me! I don't know what I did that pissed of China enough they need to send a strike team to off me, but I guess I need to re-evaluate my importance in the world. I'm like John Conner!

But, until that happens, I'll keep assuming I'm more like the fat dude who gets his shiatty truck carjacked in T2.
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2020-07-07 8:26:59 AM  
It's NEW app. Named Knick-Knock.
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2020-07-07 8:27:05 AM  
Anyone whose seen me in a thread where Epic games comes up knows my opinion of any corporation that is an active front for Chinese government activities.  Tencent or TikTok, doesn't matter.  As much as I respect the accomplishments of China dragging it's average standard of living up to first world standards (although along the edges of society there are peasants still living practically dark ages lives) within the space of 50 years, their method of turning their populace into disposable worker drones and grinding them into paste to oil the mechanisms of industry combined with absolute authoritarian political control are actively the antithesis of (what should be) the American ethos.  Engaging with them through trade and slowly integrating them into the modern world was still the right decision, but the adverse aspects of their society will remain an issue for as long as they continue on that path.
 
2020-07-07 8:29:58 AM  
I mean its Chinese spyware, so maybe he has the ability? Plus, TikTok is nothing but a cringe factory, so no loss.
 
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