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2020-07-06 8:32:19 AM  
Yay. Wouldn't that be something if the Penguins won the Cup. Probably unlikely but you never know.
 
2020-07-06 8:39:08 AM  
Cool

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2020-07-06 9:46:16 AM  
fark Bergman.
 
2020-07-06 10:00:24 AM  
Let the goon juice flow once again in the sports tab
 
2020-07-06 10:16:31 AM  
are Americans (or players with residence in the US) going to be allowed in to Canada? Or is the NHL "bubble" covering that?
 
2020-07-06 10:19:45 AM  

baorao: are Americans (or players with residence in the US) going to be allowed in to Canada? Or is the NHL "bubble" covering that?


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Well considering about 50% of all hockey players are americans, things would be pretty awkward if they couldn't.  No one would be able to have a full team.
 
2020-07-06 10:25:14 AM  
Ugh, only two rinks?  The ice on those suckers is going to look like a washboard after this is over.
 
2020-07-06 10:33:16 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Ugh, only two rinks?  The ice on those suckers is going to look like a washboard after this is over.


The ice will be fine. Most rinks get used hour upon hour for weeks on end (and those aren't NHL level barns). This is why the Zamboni was created.
 
2020-07-06 10:34:11 AM  

jake3988: baorao: are Americans (or players with residence in the US) going to be allowed in to Canada? Or is the NHL "bubble" covering that?

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Well considering about 50% of all hockey players are americans, things would be pretty awkward if they couldn't.  No one would be able to have a full team.


You're off by almost 25%.

https://thehockeywriters.com/current-​n​hl-players-by-country/

25.7% of NHL players are from the US.
 
2020-07-06 10:43:28 AM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: jake3988: baorao: are Americans (or players with residence in the US) going to be allowed in to Canada? Or is the NHL "bubble" covering that?

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Well considering about 50% of all hockey players are americans, things would be pretty awkward if they couldn't.  No one would be able to have a full team.

You're off by almost 25%.

https://thehockeywriters.com/current-n​hl-players-by-country/

25.7% of NHL players are from the US.


but 25.7% is practically 50% of 50%... so math!

plus, he said "all hockey players", not "NHL players" so... pedantic victory?

/I dunno why I even commented.  I'm just hockey deprived.
 
2020-07-06 10:44:02 AM  

baorao: are Americans (or players with residence in the US) going to be allowed in to Canada? Or is the NHL "bubble" covering that?


Yes, the Canadian government announced a couple weeks ago that they'd allow non-Canadian players into the country if a Canadian city were chosen as an NHL hub.
 
2020-07-06 10:46:12 AM  
I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey back.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.
 
2020-07-06 10:59:57 AM  
The very next story is "Several St. Louis Blues player test positive for COVID-19" so yeah.
 
2020-07-06 11:04:45 AM  
surely this is the only sport that will have a season, right?
 
2020-07-06 11:34:40 AM  
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2020-07-06 11:50:43 AM  

brizzle365: surely this is the only sport that will have a season, right?


MLB can't get test results.

NBA has players opting out left, right, and center.

For the NFL to pull something similar off, they'd need to keep probably 100 people in a bubble per team.

For all the shiat we give Bettman and the NHL, let's give them credit for something here: they and the players union have seemingly worked together to get this plus a new labor deal done. Whether they can pull off the return to play is a different discussion; but everything they've done up to this point has been done with little fuss, little drama (at least publicly), and with the right intentions (IMO). Unlike the other sports who can't get out of their own way, the NHL has at least ensured themselves of a plan to recover as a business from this pandemic.
 
2020-07-06 12:24:03 PM  

desertgeek: brizzle365: surely this is the only sport that will have a season, right?

MLB can't get test results.

NBA has players opting out left, right, and center.

For the NFL to pull something similar off, they'd need to keep probably 100 people in a bubble per team.

For all the shiat we give Bettman and the NHL, let's give them credit for something here: they and the players union have seemingly worked together to get this plus a new labor deal done. Whether they can pull off the return to play is a different discussion; but everything they've done up to this point has been done with little fuss, little drama (at least publicly), and with the right intentions (IMO). Unlike the other sports who can't get out of their own way, the NHL has at least ensured themselves of a plan to recover as a business from this pandemic.


Yea, not buying it. But conversely, I don't care about hockey. But they made you feel better today, that is important.
 
2020-07-06 12:35:17 PM  

Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.


I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.
 
2020-07-06 12:41:03 PM  

lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.


Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.
 
2020-07-06 12:45:25 PM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.


I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?
 
2020-07-06 12:47:48 PM  
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2020-07-06 12:57:20 PM  

kdawg7736: Yay. Wouldn't that be something if the Penguins won the Cup. Probably unlikely but you never know.


So in any other year I'd want that......but in this year I'd rather that all teams playing any sport manage to not win the championship and the parade that would follow.

I mean unless its necessary to make sure the Caps lose.
 
2020-07-06 1:00:17 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?


Given that Quebec is the worst place for outbreaks, that may have sunk Montreal, as well as Quebec being that close to the Atlantic bubble so you would not want to bring people closer to a containment area. And with Ottawa being the capital and full of essential staff returning to their offices, I can see why it was skipped.

Add on the hospitality options required for each hub, and it makes sense.  You can spread teams over different hotels in the GTA, and in Edmonton, you can put teams in Edmonton area and down to Red Deer and keep everyone isolated in their own bubbles easily enough.
 
2020-07-06 1:05:49 PM  
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2020-07-06 1:14:41 PM  
Perhaps they need sensible guidelines on which to build their own.
These are really very, very good
Other sports could and should take a leaf from their book.

WFDTA return to roller derby guidelines
 
2020-07-06 1:16:49 PM  

Deathbymeteor: Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?

Given that Quebec is the worst place for outbreaks, that may have sunk Montreal, as well as Quebec being that close to the Atlantic bubble so you would not want to bring people closer to a containment area. And with Ottawa being the capital and full of essential staff returning to their offices, I can see why it was skipped.

Add on the hospitality options required for each hub, and it makes sense.  You can spread teams over different hotels in the GTA, and in Edmonton, you can put teams in Edmonton area and down to Red Deer and keep everyone isolated in their own bubbles easily enough.


Makes sense, thanks!
 
2020-07-06 1:20:39 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?


As we learned above, 25.7% of players don't even speak or read French. They would get lost taking the bus to the rink.
 
2020-07-06 2:06:18 PM  
So the players have had about a 4-month break before resuming the season/playoffs, they play for 2 1/2 months, then get another 2-month break? Why not start up the 2020-21 season right after the season is done?
 
2020-07-06 2:23:06 PM  

desertgeek: brizzle365: surely this is the only sport that will have a season, right?

MLB can't get test results.

NBA has players opting out left, right, and center.

For the NFL to pull something similar off, they'd need to keep probably 100 people in a bubble per team.

For all the shiat we give Bettman and the NHL, let's give them credit for something here: they and the players union have seemingly worked together to get this plus a new labor deal done. Whether they can pull off the return to play is a different discussion; but everything they've done up to this point has been done with little fuss, little drama (at least publicly), and with the right intentions (IMO). Unlike the other sports who can't get out of their own way, the NHL has at least ensured themselves of a plan to recover as a business from this pandemic.


Yeah, about that...

/I love hockey, but they should really just cancel this season and just wait until next fall/winter
 
2020-07-06 3:24:42 PM  

puckrock2000: So the players have had about a 4-month break before resuming the season/playoffs, they play for 2 1/2 months, then get another 2-month break? Why not start up the 2020-21 season right after the season is done?


I am sure that probably opens up a whole new conversation with the players association and collective bargaining.

But I would bet it's mostly to leave open some slim chance that the 2021 slate has stadiums at full capacity. Unlikely as that would seem.
 
2020-07-06 3:32:28 PM  

puckrock2000: desertgeek: brizzle365: surely this is the only sport that will have a season, right?

MLB can't get test results.

NBA has players opting out left, right, and center.

For the NFL to pull something similar off, they'd need to keep probably 100 people in a bubble per team.

For all the shiat we give Bettman and the NHL, let's give them credit for something here: they and the players union have seemingly worked together to get this plus a new labor deal done. Whether they can pull off the return to play is a different discussion; but everything they've done up to this point has been done with little fuss, little drama (at least publicly), and with the right intentions (IMO). Unlike the other sports who can't get out of their own way, the NHL has at least ensured themselves of a plan to recover as a business from this pandemic.

Yeah, about that...

/I love hockey, but they should really just cancel this season and just wait until next fall/winter


The big question here, is whether they were infected before arriving. If this was people reported and went into quarantine testing positive, it isn't a big deal. If there is transmission within the camp that is a serious issue.
 
2020-07-06 4:11:33 PM  

Deathbymeteor: Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?

Given that Quebec is the worst place for outbreaks, that may have sunk Montreal, as well as Quebec being that close to the Atlantic bubble so you would not want to bring people closer to a containment area. And with Ottawa being the capital and full of essential staff returning to their offices, I can see why it was skipped.

Add on the hospitality options required for each hub, and it makes sense.  You can spread teams over different hotels in the GTA, and in Edmonton, you can put teams in Edmonton area and down to Red Deer and keep everyone isolated in their own bubbles easily enough.


Edmonton has a couple of hotels actually attached to the arena, which could concievably hold the whole bubble and the arena has an identical practice sheet in the basement. They could literally play 2 games at once, and there are 2 other NHL class sheets close by, at the UofA, and Terwilligar .
 
2020-07-06 5:38:50 PM  
Badge post?
 
2020-07-06 5:52:45 PM  
NHL, NHLPA just announced the formal agreement on everything. Even if they don't pull it off, there's labor peace in our NHL.

2020 is really farked up.
 
2020-07-06 5:57:43 PM  
If all the teams in the tournament get infected and die then there is an outside chance the Wings will be a top 6 team next season.
 
2020-07-06 6:43:23 PM  

Muta: If all the teams in the tournament get infected and die then there is an outside chance the Wings will be a top 6 team next season.


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2020-07-06 6:49:42 PM  
My idiocyinjury-ravaged Sharks are pleased at this development. Here's to SHARKS IN SIX in the semi-finals!

/...annnd... 1-4 in the Finals...
 
2020-07-06 6:53:28 PM  

desertgeek: NHL, NHLPA just announced the formal agreement on everything. Even if they don't pull it off, there's labor peace in our NHL.

2020 is really farked up.


So, Gary Bettman finally gets through a CBA bargaining round without needing a work stoppage.
All it took was a global pandemic.
 
2020-07-06 7:13:56 PM  

Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?


If we really want to play this thing what is wrong with Labrador Newfoundland or Saskatoon or some other smaller towns? Never understood why it has to be NHL cities if no fans are in the building. I understand the infrastructure and amenities are more plentiful in metropolitan areas but if it's going to be a gimmick anyhow (if they're lucky to get it off) send the sport back to its grassroots for a month or two and get creative.
 
2020-07-06 7:21:06 PM  

themunsterfullback: Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?

If we really want to play this thing what is wrong with Labrador Newfoundland or Saskatoon or some other smaller towns? Never understood why it has to be NHL cities if no fans are in the building. I understand the infrastructure and amenities are more plentiful in metropolitan areas but if it's going to be a gimmick anyhow (if they're lucky to get it off) send the sport back to its grassroots for a month or two and get creative.


Because you need NHL calibre arenas, NHL quality icing machinery, NHL quality ice, major urban hospitality facilities, which are not available in small towns.
 
2020-07-06 7:22:31 PM  

Dknsvsbl: Edmonton has a couple of hotels actually attached to the arena, which could concievably hold the whole bubble and the arena has an identical practice sheet in the basement. They could literally play 2 games at once, and there are 2 other NHL class sheets close by, at the UofA, and Terwilligar .


There's 2?  I knew there was one attached as I walked through it last year to go to a concert in the arena, and I definitely didn't know about the second arena.

Still wish they'd come here to Calgary for a game or a few practices.
 
2020-07-06 7:29:19 PM  

Dknsvsbl: Edmonton has a couple of hotels actually attached to the arena, which could concievably hold the whole bubble and the arena has an identical practice sheet in the basement. They could literally play 2 games at once, and there are 2 other NHL class sheets close by, at the UofA, and Terwilligar .


I'm thinking that if the equipment is still there, the old Oilers arena would make a good auxiliary arena.

/And Toronto could use the arena for the Marlies for their 2nd game rink.
 
2020-07-06 7:49:21 PM  

desertgeek: Dknsvsbl: Edmonton has a couple of hotels actually attached to the arena, which could concievably hold the whole bubble and the arena has an identical practice sheet in the basement. They could literally play 2 games at once, and there are 2 other NHL class sheets close by, at the UofA, and Terwilligar .

I'm thinking that if the equipment is still there, the old Oilers arena would make a good auxiliary arena.

/And Toronto could use the arena for the Marlies for their 2nd game rink.


Heck if they want a little extra sizzle Maple Leafs Gardens has a regulation rink above the grocery store.
 
2020-07-06 10:25:19 PM  

Deathbymeteor: themunsterfullback: Polish Hussar: Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: lindalouwho: Polish Hussar: I'm still not convinced this is a good idea, but I'm still really excited to have hockey b.  Hopefully this will go smoothly and the whole thing won't get derailed by COVID outbreaks at training camps.

I'm with you. I'd like to see playoffs, but it's reckless.

Less reckless than if they went to Florida. But then again, what isn't?
Personally, I'm glad that Vancouver removed their bid when it required bending the existing health regulations. I think Edmonton will have an easier time maintaining their bubble with less population and a less-confined geography.
Toronto is a bigger risk.

I'm not surprised they went with two Canadian cities as Canada seems to have been fairly more successful in controlling COVID than the U.S., but I was kind of surprised that Toronto was picked as the eastern hub city.  My understanding was that Toronto was one of Canada's major outbreak centers.  Were Ottawa and Montreal worse options?

If we really want to play this thing what is wrong with Labrador Newfoundland or Saskatoon or some other smaller towns? Never understood why it has to be NHL cities if no fans are in the building. I understand the infrastructure and amenities are more plentiful in metropolitan areas but if it's going to be a gimmick anyhow (if they're lucky to get it off) send the sport back to its grassroots for a month or two and get creative.

Because you need NHL calibre arenas, NHL quality icing machinery, NHL quality ice, major urban hospitality facilities, which are not available in small towns.


Also, perhaps most critical, is a lack of media infrastructure. Your average arena (even those for typical major junior teams) isn't set up for national broadcasting to NHL standards. You can get away with it for a long planned one off event, but not for a playoff tournament.

Also, staying away from Eastern Canada which has very few active cases was likely very deliberate.
 
2020-07-07 12:04:19 AM  
I'm still gonna be amazed if they can pull this off without killing someone.
 
2020-07-07 1:50:19 AM  

sortarican: I'm still gonna be amazed if they can pull this off without killing someone.


In other sports-pandemic news, Dallas FC has pulled out of the MSL restart tournament because of ten positive COVID tests on their team.
 
2020-07-07 7:29:32 AM  

Johnny the Tackling Alzheimers Patient: sortarican: I'm still gonna be amazed if they can pull this off without killing someone.

In other sports-pandemic news, Dallas FC has pulled out of the MSL restart tournament because of ten positive COVID tests on their team.


Who's mom brought the infected orange slices?
 
2020-07-07 1:33:55 PM  
So the Stanley Cup Finals will be played at about the same time the regular season would normally be starting?   Are they going to push back the start of next season?
 
2020-07-07 1:46:10 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: So the Stanley Cup Finals will be played at about the same time the regular season would normally be starting?   Are they going to push back the start of next season?


Probably to December. They need time for a draft and free agency.
 
2020-07-07 2:37:09 PM  

desertgeek: Sin_City_Superhero: So the Stanley Cup Finals will be played at about the same time the regular season would normally be starting?   Are they going to push back the start of next season?

Probably to December. They need time for a draft and free agency.


They have talked about getting in a full 80-82 game schedule for 2020-21. It would finish in the summer, and would push back everything like free agency, the draft, and the start of training camp, etc., but less than this year. The following year would be more or less back to normal.
 
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