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2020-07-05 10:33:17 AM  
59 votes:

HallsOfMandos: A Lincoln Project ad once bit my sister.


Lincøln Prøject bites Kan be pretti nasti
 
2020-07-05 10:16:30 AM  
57 votes:
A Lincoln Project ad once bit my sister.
 
2020-07-05 1:04:57 PM  
48 votes:
It isn't unfair to blame Trump for every individual thing that was destroyed in the house just because happened to be President when he set it on fire.
 
2020-07-05 1:07:25 PM  
33 votes:

nekom: physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.

One battle at a time.


It will take a very long time for conservative Americans to forget how badly Trump f$cked up the entire country.  At least 2 years.
 
2020-07-05 3:17:03 PM  
29 votes:

Chromium_One: A coordinated response would have allowed a shorter shutdown with much better effect.


Name a single country where that's true.

No, not Korea, they don't count.  Or New Zealand.  Or any of the European countries, they're all out.  Or Canada.  Or...
 
2020-07-05 12:15:55 PM  
27 votes:
Lincoln Project? Worth a shot.
 
2020-07-05 12:24:06 PM  
26 votes:
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2020-07-05 2:56:21 PM  
20 votes:

mrshowrules: It isn't unfair to blame Trump for every individual thing that was destroyed in the house just because happened to be President when he set it on fire.


That's the only way to kill that spider sometimes.
 
2020-07-05 1:06:03 PM  
19 votes:

HallsOfMandos: A Lincoln Project ad once bit my sister.


bitter?
 
2020-07-05 3:09:11 PM  
13 votes:

HallsOfMandos: A Lincoln Project ad once bit my sister.


Now she turns to 6ft 4in man with a stove pipe hat and a goatee ever full moon and howls " PARTY ON DUDES!"
 
2020-07-05 1:47:12 PM  
7 votes:
An historic ..... not A historic.
 
2020-07-05 3:24:11 PM  
6 votes:

mrshowrules: HallsOfMandos: A Lincoln Project ad once bit my sister.

bitter?


Yeah, I still feel pretty bad about it.
 
2020-07-05 3:15:58 PM  
5 votes:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


Not quite, the further goal of the Lincoln Project is to slide the Dems rightwards, functionally transforming them into "Republicans with Manners". You might beat Trump in November, but is it really worth it if your party sells its soul to do so?
 
2020-07-05 3:03:31 PM  
5 votes:

centrifugal bumblepuppy: LP's video guy is a former Tea Partier: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/0​7/lincoln-project-video-wiz-ben-howe-a​ds-are-driving-trump-insane


Yet he keeps taxing Trump.
 
2020-07-05 3:02:15 PM  
5 votes:

stilted: Playing Devil's Advocate here...I'm anti-Trump, will be voting for Biden in November...not a Russian troll...*not* saying BSAB...

Isn't there a touch of hypocrisy in laying unemployment solely at Trump's feet, when many who oppose Trump are saying businesses have/are opening too fast and in Covid hotspots the government should be shutting everything down?

Unemployment is an inherent by-product of fighting Coronavirus. You can't slow the spread in areas of outbreak without shutting down businesses, resulting in unemployment.

That being said, Trump and the rest of the GOP has done a horrible job of supporting the lower and middle class workers who have been impacted by Coronavirus restrictions. *That* is where the opposition attacks should be focused...the GOP's making sure the corporations are protected, while leaving the average worker swaying in the wind.


Yes, there is tons of hypocrisy involved. Politics isn't about being right or even coherent, it's about swaying stupid people to vote for you through appeals to emotion.

These ads aren't made for thinking  people, but that won't stop the "rah rah team" types from eating them up.
 
2020-07-05 7:40:17 PM  
3 votes:

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: saturn badger: I woke up this morning with a rare feeling. I was depressed.

It took me a bit to sort it out but I realized it was the Bunkie shiat over the weekend. The 14 flags on the Nazi stage, the further dividing of out country with his speech, the detailed description of the killing machines as they flew over. For one they detailed how many bullets per minute then broke it down to seconds.

It is the birthday of all Americans and most were not invited. It is supposed to be uplifting and uniting. This was the polar opposite.

Then the rendition of America The Beautiful (it's supposed to be uplifting) slowed down to almost a funeral song. I'm not a musician but it sounded like they went for the minor key instead of the major.

The entire weekend has been playing in my head like a bad movie. Then the Karen at 7-11 yelling at the clerk about a mask.

I'm better now. This post helped.

Thanks for listening.

In case no one else replied, I'm a music nerd and it's one of the quarantine hobbies I've been busy with.  I think it was played in Eb major; I'm not sure, but it wasn't minor.  There are a lot of flats (notes lowered slightly in pitch) in this song which make it sound minor, though.  The part you thought was solemn may well have changed key to add more flats.  That slow selection is pretty common in orchestral music like this, to build up to the end, which usually switches back to the original, slightly happier key.

I'm the kid in band who listened to the teacher say "this song is what we call a minor key and you probably won't like it" and actually did...

Here's a fun rendition of the song in your minor key:

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/mnyqeNn5​QZs?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

Oddly fitting.


Then there's going from minor to major... like this Tool song:
Tool's Schism in Major Key
Youtube UojtFRMIp-Q
 
2020-07-05 4:24:41 PM  
3 votes:

Tarl3k: With a national mask requirement a LOT of businesses could reopen safely...but Trump won't do that because reasons.


The "reasons" being the constitution. The federal government can only recommend masks, but not make them mandatory.
 
2020-07-05 3:42:59 PM  
3 votes:

Captain Shaky: Germany is also having a pandemic I have heard.

But careful management by the government has kept their unemployment from passing 3.5% even once, so far.

Other developed nations have kept their rates at around half of what ours have been.

And we are looking like we are in much much worse shape than them going forward as well. Because the government is mishandling both the crisis and the economy.


Their economy is projected to shrink by more than 6% this year. The US is shrinking by less, 5.7%. So, from that metric, the US is doing better than them economically despite having much higher infection and death numbers.

Using unemployment is a bad proxy because other countries use "furloughs" instead of unemployment. Both rely on state funding for paying for people who can't work.
 
2020-07-05 3:37:50 PM  
3 votes:

nekom: physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.

One battle at a time.


yeah plus bernie lost you guys
 
2020-07-05 3:08:21 PM  
3 votes:
Are we sure that the Lincoln Project isn't just a front to fleece Democrats out of donations? I guess I'd never paid much attention to the pleas for donations at the end until today.
 
2020-07-05 1:41:18 PM  
3 votes:
Playing Devil's Advocate here...I'm anti-Trump, will be voting for Biden in November...not a Russian troll...*not* saying BSAB...

Isn't there a touch of hypocrisy in laying unemployment solely at Trump's feet, when many who oppose Trump are saying businesses have/are opening too fast and in Covid hotspots the government should be shutting everything down?

Unemployment is an inherent by-product of fighting Coronavirus. You can't slow the spread in areas of outbreak without shutting down businesses, resulting in unemployment.

That being said, Trump and the rest of the GOP has done a horrible job of supporting the lower and middle class workers who have been impacted by Coronavirus restrictions. *That* is where the opposition attacks should be focused...the GOP's making sure the corporations are protected, while leaving the average worker swaying in the wind.
 
2020-07-05 7:39:26 PM  
2 votes:

rosekolodny: what the cat dragged in: rosekolodny: Magruda: psilocyberguy: An historic ..... not A historic.

Only if you're a peasant who drops their Hs.

Nobody says "istoric"

Grrrrrr.  I know those people.  They make me stabby.

Doesn't Received Pronunciation ('Queen's English') still insist on 'an historic' as well as not dropping the h, like Cockneys?

It does; I heard a radio host using it just the other day.

I'm more annoyed by people who totally drop the h.  Houston becomes Youston. People? They're all yoomans.


What about the people who get depressed and decide to become an hero?
 
2020-07-05 5:23:13 PM  
2 votes:

rolladuck: AAAAGGGGHHHH: Three Crooked Squirrels: physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.

If Trump loses in November, the GOP will be too busy in-fighting for awhile to focus on the Dems.

The GOP went from Nixon resigning in 74, getting BTFO in 76, only to come back with Reagan in 1980.

A span of less than six years.

They're like the Covid virus. It keeps coming back to try to kill you, and the best hope you have is your body may have immunity for only a couple of months between infections.

Who do you think will be their 2024 candidate?  My money is on Pirate Dan.



It doesn't matter who the GOP runs in 2024. They'll get their ass handed to them by AOC who will, barring something dire happening to Biden, simultaneously become the first female President, Hispanic President, and youngest President of the United States in history.
 
2020-07-05 5:07:30 PM  
2 votes:

TDWCom29: If what you're suggesting is true then we could walk around with our dicks hanging out because pants and underwear would just be a suggestion


Where's the federal law on dick-hanging? Oh, that's right, there is none. Because that is a state power.

fortheloveof: Alright, I got to ask: how does the Constitution prevent the federal government from requiring masks?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_A​m​endment_to_the_United_States_Constitut​ion

There's no enumerated power for the Federal government in this case, and it would be hard to make a case for 'interstate commerce' when talking about an individual wearing a mask to go to their local store. It's a state power.
 
2020-07-05 3:34:10 PM  
2 votes:

OceanVortex: The people involved HAVE been speaking up for years. Rick Wilson famously coined the phrase "everything Trump touches dies" which was a NYT best seller book. Joe Walsh tried to primary Trump but the RNC changed the primary rules to block him. They finally scraped together enough $$$ to start running ads, sure. I bet they would have liked to have been running ads for 5 years as well, but you go to war with the army you have, as they say.


Yeah but not the Lincoln Project, which is what we're discussing here.
 
2020-07-05 3:25:57 PM  
2 votes:

OceanVortex: Utter Genius: physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.

Not quite, the further goal of the Lincoln Project is to slide the Dems rightwards, functionally transforming them into "Republicans with Manners". You might beat Trump in November, but is it really worth it if your party sells its soul to do so?

You might be disingenuous, but I'll take you at face value here and assume this is an honest sentiment you are expressing.

How is that possibly the right thing to say?  For 5 years now, we Democrats have been jumping up and down shouting "Why won't these so-called 'Constitution Loving Republicans' stand up to Trump?"  well, they finally do and now we are complaining about it?


Because the reason for their action is specious.  If they really were that concerned about Trump's actions as POTUS, one would think their scrappy little operation would have been putting out ads for years.
 
2020-07-05 3:04:51 PM  
2 votes:
I don't understand why TLP is wasting resources on ads designed to appeal to Democrats.

It specifically mentions hispanic and African-American unemployment both being up, but Republicans view that as a good thing - get the minorities out of the work force so Cletus can get the job they stole from him with affirmative action
 
2020-07-05 10:02:15 AM  
2 votes:
These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.
 
2020-07-06 12:40:33 AM  
1 vote:

psilocyberguy: An historic ..... not A historic.


...not sure if serious
 
2020-07-05 10:15:41 PM  
1 vote:

what the cat dragged in: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm: saturn badger: I woke up this morning with a rare feeling. I was depressed.

It took me a bit to sort it out but I realized it was the Bunkie shiat over the weekend. The 14 flags on the Nazi stage, the further dividing of out country with his speech, the detailed description of the killing machines as they flew over. For one they detailed how many bullets per minute then broke it down to seconds.

It is the birthday of all Americans and most were not invited. It is supposed to be uplifting and uniting. This was the polar opposite.

Then the rendition of America The Beautiful (it's supposed to be uplifting) slowed down to almost a funeral song. I'm not a musician but it sounded like they went for the minor key instead of the major.

The entire weekend has been playing in my head like a bad movie. Then the Karen at 7-11 yelling at the clerk about a mask.

I'm better now. This post helped.

Thanks for listening.

In case no one else replied, I'm a music nerd and it's one of the quarantine hobbies I've been busy with.  I think it was played in Eb major; I'm not sure, but it wasn't minor.  There are a lot of flats (notes lowered slightly in pitch) in this song which make it sound minor, though.  The part you thought was solemn may well have changed key to add more flats.  That slow selection is pretty common in orchestral music like this, to build up to the end, which usually switches back to the original, slightly happier key.

I'm the kid in band who listened to the teacher say "this song is what we call a minor key and you probably won't like it" and actually did...

Here's a fun rendition of the song in your minor key:

[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/mnyqeNn5​QZs?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]

Oddly fitting.

Then there's going from minor to major... like this Tool song:
[iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/UojtFRMI​p-Q?autoplay=1&widget_refe ...


Nothing will ever top this for me:

Slipknot Wait and Bleed Radio Disney Version360p H 264 AAC
Youtube Tmr5mGf1OQI


/get your f*kking hands in the f*kking air!!! :D:D:D
 
2020-07-05 8:52:22 PM  
1 vote:

psilocyberguy: An historic ..... not A historic.


Welcome to America, where 'h' is a consonant. Try not to get covid on the way to your hotel/bar/other entertainment.
 
2020-07-05 8:07:18 PM  
1 vote:
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2020-07-05 5:04:35 PM  
1 vote:

AAAAGGGGHHHH: dildo tontine: I understand your concern but people are capable of change.

Nope. Not republicans.They're not people. They will only get worse.

Quote me on it and come back here in 2024. You'll be asking me if I'm a wizard.


It is convenient that you cut off the rest of my comment.  I specifically pointed out Elizabeth Warren as an example.  Denying that people are capable of change is as dumb as denying science and dehumanizing Republicans is downright sociopathic.

As for 2024 I doubt I will remember who you are then.
 
2020-07-05 4:36:59 PM  
1 vote:

psilocyberguy: An historic ..... not A historic.


H is a consonant and it's not silent, so no.
 
2020-07-05 4:35:51 PM  
1 vote:
What if LP is playing 4D chess and will do something in November to re-elect Dumpy*
 
2020-07-05 4:23:43 PM  
1 vote:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


Yep. I'm seeing this too. Am I the only one who remembers the story about the Scorpion and the Frog?
 
2020-07-05 3:38:48 PM  
1 vote:

OceanVortex: qorkfiend: OceanVortex: qorkfiend: Think about the equivalent on the Dem side for issues, for example: The Dem Party and most of its candidates were largely against Gay Marriage for much of the 2000's. Then in 2012~ish (forgive me I forget the exact date) Obama makes a big announcement openly supporting it, and there was a sudden 10+ point jump in support of Gay Marriage within Dem party base public opinion polling. People saw the signal it was OK to change their minds and they took the chance.

"I am a Republican, I oppose Trump" is a powerful message to those who aren't comfortable with Trump.

Anyone happen to recall why Obama made a public show of supporting it?

Make no mistake, you are right that Obama 'changed his mind' on Gay Marriage because the polls were trending upwards in support.  I'm not claiming no one supported it, he spoke, then everyone did.

I'm saying the polls went from split support to double digit lead very quickly after he spoke up.  He released the tension in the Dem Party and a lot of people changed their minds quickly.

Pew Research poll shows going from 50% support to 65% support after he spoke.  That's a pretty big jump!

Imagine what 15% of the GOP base changing their mind on Trump would mean?

Right, I wasn't disputing any of that.

Cool.  [High Five]  :)


I was reminding people that the man who spurred Obama's open support was none other than Joe Biden.
 
2020-07-05 3:33:28 PM  
1 vote:

Chromium_One: Shaggy_C: stilted: Playing Devil's Advocate here...I'm anti-Trump, will be voting for Biden in November...not a Russian troll...*not* saying BSAB...

Isn't there a touch of hypocrisy in laying unemployment solely at Trump's feet, when many who oppose Trump are saying businesses have/are opening too fast and in Covid hotspots the government should be shutting everything down?

Unemployment is an inherent by-product of fighting Coronavirus. You can't slow the spread in areas of outbreak without shutting down businesses, resulting in unemployment.

That being said, Trump and the rest of the GOP has done a horrible job of supporting the lower and middle class workers who have been impacted by Coronavirus restrictions. *That* is where the opposition attacks should be focused...the GOP's making sure the corporations are protected, while leaving the average worker swaying in the wind.

Yes, there is tons of hypocrisy involved. Politics isn't about being right or even coherent, it's about swaying stupid people to vote for you through appeals to emotion.

These ads aren't made for thinking  people, but that won't stop the "rah rah team" types from eating them up.

I can and do blame a lack of leadership.  A coordinated response would have allowed a shorter shutdown with much better effect.  Instead, we got denial of reality and a patchwork response with mixed results.


I don't agree with you. I think americans are flawed and are too individualistic. I think if Hilary was president you'd be in the same shiat show.
 
2020-07-05 3:31:42 PM  
1 vote:

psilocyberguy: An historic ..... not A historic.


Only if you're a peasant who drops their Hs.

Nobody says "istoric"
 
2020-07-05 3:26:30 PM  
1 vote:

OceanVortex: Utter Genius: physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.

Not quite, the further goal of the Lincoln Project is to slide the Dems rightwards, functionally transforming them into "Republicans with Manners". You might beat Trump in November, but is it really worth it if your party sells its soul to do so?

You might be disingenuous, but I'll take you at face value here and assume this is an honest sentiment you are expressing.

How is that possibly the right thing to say?  For 5 years now, we Democrats have been jumping up and down shouting "Why won't these so-called 'Constitution Loving Republicans' stand up to Trump?"  well, they finally do and now we are complaining about it?


Yes.  Bolded is the reason why.  Like complaining about Bolton releasing a book instead of testifying, or the parade of fired employees who suddenly have the wherewithal to speak out against the mendacity of Trump.  We're capable of recognizing ulterior motives.
 
2020-07-05 3:19:55 PM  
1 vote:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


[Black Widow]
We have an ally?

[Nick Fury]
Ultron has an enemy -- that's not the same thing.
 
2020-07-05 3:17:53 PM  
1 vote:

mrshowrules: It will take a very long time for conservative Americans to forget how badly Trump f$cked up the entire country.  At least 2 years.


Every response to any word from any republican for the next 100 years should be "trump" followed by a punch in to face.  The gop has lost its right to speak or even pretend to by American.
 
2020-07-05 3:11:04 PM  
1 vote:

Blahbbs: Are we sure that the Lincoln Project isn't just a front to fleece Democrats out of donations? I guess I'd never paid much attention to the pleas for donations at the end until today.


Thus far, they have been more effective at getting in Trump's head, the RNC's head, and Fox News's head than anything any Dem Party ad has done.  By 'in the head' I mean Trump has tweeted about it and said more unpopular things in response to it.  Seems to be the single best investment one could make over the last month, actually.    Heck, Republican Super Pacs have started running ads AGAINST the Lincoln Project... the first time in American history one super pac has ran ads against another.
 
2020-07-05 2:44:05 PM  
1 vote:

stilted: Playing Devil's Advocate here...I'm anti-Trump, will be voting for Biden in November...not a Russian troll...*not* saying BSAB...

Isn't there a touch of hypocrisy in laying unemployment solely at Trump's feet, when many who oppose Trump are saying businesses have/are opening too fast and in Covid hotspots the government should be shutting everything down?

Unemployment is an inherent by-product of fighting Coronavirus. You can't slow the spread in areas of outbreak without shutting down businesses, resulting in unemployment.

That being said, Trump and the rest of the GOP has done a horrible job of supporting the lower and middle class workers who have been impacted by Coronavirus restrictions. *That* is where the opposition attacks should be focused...the GOP's making sure the corporations are protected, while leaving the average worker swaying in the wind.


No.

1. The recession already began in February before anything had been shut down prior to the coronavirus.

Therefore, this is Trump's recession. He created it, not the coronavirus.

2. It is true the shutdowns from the coronavirus has exacerbated the recession mightily. This is also Donald Trump's fault as if he had been an actual president, instead of just playing on on television, he would have instituted a quarantine in February or March, shut everything down, and then we could be coming out of this NOW, as Europe and Asia are, with far fewer job losses.

Therefore, the depth of the recession, the spike in unemployment, is entirely Trump's fault.

QED
 
2020-07-05 2:20:37 PM  
1 vote:
 
2020-07-05 1:20:17 PM  
1 vote:
Bigly
 
2020-07-05 12:06:38 PM  
1 vote:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


If Trump loses in November, the GOP will be too busy in-fighting for awhile to focus on the Dems.
 
2020-07-05 11:58:28 AM  
1 vote:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


One battle at a time.
 
2020-07-05 11:33:36 AM  
1 vote:

physt: These ads are great and all but, remember, there are Republicans behind this. They are coming for Trump now but they'll be all over Dems once he's out of the way.


Actually it is reported that the Project is a mix from both parties.
 
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