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(New York Magazine)   This might be a tough one on you drunks, but to reopen the economy, we need to close the bars   (nymag.com) divider line
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2020-07-05 7:39:46 AM  
If you really start to miss it, start a bar in your house. You could open it up to the public, too. Perhaps even call it a public house.
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2020-07-05 8:02:52 AM  
Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.
 
2020-07-05 8:05:49 AM  

Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.


Indoor malls
 
2020-07-05 8:19:37 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: If you really start to miss it, start a bar in your house. You could open it up to the public, too. Perhaps even call it a public house.


And if everyone walks around with no pants on, its a Public Private House.
 
2020-07-05 8:20:57 AM  
To a lot of people, the economy is composed of of the bits they can see, primarily bars and restaurants, and the bits they can't, which is covered by the STONKS market.

So "reopening the economy" translates to "opening the venues I go spend money in."
 
2020-07-05 8:22:13 AM  
NPR offers another perspective and approach to this same subject. Both are ineffective, stupid dangerous and self indulgent, but so is most of your's
 
2020-07-05 8:24:58 AM  
Drunks go to public. Alcoholics go to meetings. Ethanol enthusiasts stay quietly home and get the shiat done alone.
 
2020-07-05 8:37:42 AM  
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2020-07-05 8:38:57 AM  

Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.


Religious gatherings.
 
TWX [TotalFark]
2020-07-05 8:47:54 AM  

enry: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Indoor malls


They're effectively closed already.  Hell, Metro Center, the mall that was the filming location for Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, just announced it's permanently closing.
 
2020-07-05 8:58:35 AM  

Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.


Because things are so much better than when everything closed?
 
2020-07-05 9:25:58 AM  
Why go to a crowded bar when I can drink alone for a fraction of the cost?
 
2020-07-05 9:29:09 AM  
the last time I walked into a bar, I got a big bump on my head.
 
2020-07-05 9:40:23 AM  
Shut churches down too. All religious events. Same way people can drink at home, they can pray at home.

No more priests sticking their fingers in mouths to give communion. People hugging/holding hands. All filthy carriers.
 
Xai [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2020-07-05 9:54:47 AM  

Mugato: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Because things are so much better than when everything closed?


I'm saying close the places that contribute to 90% of infections to allow the lesser places to open without doing a Texas/Florida.

But I forgot about religious gatherings, yeah, ban those.
 
2020-07-05 10:41:19 AM  

Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.


my gym reopened and I missed the email about a month ago stating I would be taken off hold, so they charged me for july dues.

there is $100+ gone since I have no intention of going back and their stupid 30 day cancellation policy.

dues are due on the first of the month, they announced the reopening on june 12th that they would open on July 1.
 
2020-07-05 10:44:32 AM  

Hyjamon: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

my gym reopened and I missed the email about a month ago stating I would be taken off hold, so they charged me for july dues.

there is $100+ gone since I have no intention of going back and their stupid 30 day cancellation policy.

dues are due on the first of the month, they announced the reopening on june 12th that they would open on July 1.


Gyms...the minuses will always outweigh the pluses for me. It's like swimming in a public pool with the biggest asshats imaginable.
 
2020-07-05 10:52:00 AM  
If our economy is primarily driven by bars and restaurants, we ain't got much left.
 
2020-07-05 10:55:39 AM  
In Wisconsin contract tracers discovered most of the infections occured at crowded bars.  The tavern league made a statement that they were being made scapegoats and instead should blame BLM protestors.

Yea the tavern league are a buncha assholes
 
2020-07-05 11:10:40 AM  

kkinnison: In Wisconsin contract tracers discovered most of the infections occured at crowded bars.  The tavern league made a statement that they were being made scapegoats and instead should blame BLM protestors.

Yea the tavern league are a buncha assholes


Indeed they are. It was always fun trying to explain to tourists the fact that it's after 9 PM and no liquor stores are open. Especially telling a group of mostly teenagers that if they want booze at this time of night, they're going to need to get it at a bar.
 
2020-07-05 11:11:36 AM  

FriarReb98: Hyjamon: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

my gym reopened and I missed the email about a month ago stating I would be taken off hold, so they charged me for july dues.

there is $100+ gone since I have no intention of going back and their stupid 30 day cancellation policy.

dues are due on the first of the month, they announced the reopening on june 12th that they would open on July 1.

Gyms...the minuses will always outweigh the pluses for me. It's like swimming in a public pool with the biggest asshats imaginable.


for some that works and you put it perfectly:  weigh the pros and cons.  I liked the gym I went to, had an awesome kids center to watch kids while you worked out.  but seeing how we are basically no longer going to public places, it just doesn't make sense anymore.  Had they left me on hold ($10 a month) vs fully reactivating my account, I may have agreed to support them with the monthly $10; not anymore.
 
2020-07-05 11:28:14 AM  
I don't begrudge anybody their vices. Buy booze and enjoy it. I'm, shall we say, endowed with a larger than life personality. I like my sugary stuff, and it impacts organ health like heavy alcohol does.

But I don't understand the desire to drink in huge groups. Most of the bars I've been in are dirty crapholes with the same dozen losers who love to complain about their life. Do you (collective, not specific) not have anything else going on in your life?

Like, Jesus. Drink at home for a couple of months. The washed out losers will still be there when you get back to normal
 
2020-07-05 11:35:13 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: If you really start to miss it, start a bar in your house. You could open it up to the public, too. Perhaps even call it a public house.


If the authorities don't like it, keep it on the down-low and have only trusted patrons speak an easy password to gain entry.
 
M-G [TotalFark]
2020-07-05 11:55:25 AM  
If only there were ways to procure alcohol and consume it in your home...
 
2020-07-05 12:20:29 PM  
Good.  People should drink at home, alone, and n the dark.  Like god intended.  If you need light, you tune your old tube TV to a channel with static noise.
 
2020-07-05 12:32:17 PM  

FriarReb98: Hyjamon: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

my gym reopened and I missed the email about a month ago stating I would be taken off hold, so they charged me for july dues.

there is $100+ gone since I have no intention of going back and their stupid 30 day cancellation policy.

dues are due on the first of the month, they announced the reopening on june 12th that they would open on July 1.

Gyms...the minuses will always outweigh the pluses for me. It's like swimming in a public pool with the biggest asshats imaginable.


I stopped going to the gym about two weeks before the lock down. Before the lock down my gym tried to get its customers to wipe down the equipment between each use - putting wipe dispensers and hand sanitizer tubs all over - and most customers completely ignored it. So I stopped going.
 
2020-07-05 12:36:43 PM  
I'd go:
Indoor bars
Indoor restaurants
Outdoor bars and restaurants can be open under strict conditions
Gyms - unless strict occupancy limits
Indoor religious meetings - unless strict occupancy limits
Movie theaters
Live indoor music and sports - outdoors sometimes ok with strict limits
Schools?
Daycares?

A lot of these occupancy limits would be harsh. But say you have a church with seating for 200. You may be able to have multiple services over the week if you limit attendance to 25 or so per service and still greatly reduce risk.
 
2020-07-05 12:50:37 PM  

M-G: If only there were ways to procure alcohol and consume it in your home...


Here in Georgia they just made home delivery of liquor legal.  Woot.

It wasn't all that long ago that you couldn't buy alcohol in stores on Sundays.  But you could go to a bar, lol
 
2020-07-05 1:07:09 PM  
I'm getting 3x the drink per dollar spent by buying my booze from the supermarket. Why would I ever go back to a bar? Who the fark wants to pay $9 for a Heineken? (That's around the going rate here in SF, pre-COVID19. Not sure what it is elsewhere.)

A bottle of Two-buck Chuck is, well, two-bucks. That's 4 meals' worth of wine pairing. A typical glass of wine with dinner at any restaurant is $9 minimum, but goes up to $16 to $25 a glass (4-9 fl oz.). Yeah, for the price of one glass, I get 4 bottles. And they all taste about the same.
 
2020-07-05 1:09:08 PM  
About the only thing I think I would be missing are the fancier mixed cocktails. I don't have the skills (nor the tools) to make fancy cocktails. I ain't storing orange peels so I can add some zest to a drink that I might make once a month. About the only mixed drink I make is gin and tonic. Or a martini with some vermouth. In either case, they're easy to make.
 
2020-07-05 1:10:31 PM  

germ78: Tr0mBoNe: If you really start to miss it, start a bar in your house. You could open it up to the public, too. Perhaps even call it a public house.

If the authorities don't like it, keep it on the down-low and have only trusted patrons speak an easy password to gain entry.


"Pick your poison," eh?
 
2020-07-05 1:11:45 PM  

enry: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Indoor malls


Malls, indoor or outdoor or mixed, are closing entirely on their own anyway. The future of retail ain't physical malls.
 
2020-07-05 1:14:34 PM  

Xai: Mugato: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Because things are so much better than when everything closed?

I'm saying close the places that contribute to 90% of infections to allow the lesser places to open without doing a Texas/Florida.

But I forgot about religious gatherings, yeah, ban those.


I do video and web stuff for theme parks so it does suck that they're closed but it would kind of suck to be at any of them. They take your temperature when you go in, you have to wear a mask in 100 degree heat. Sounds nightmarish.
 
2020-07-05 1:14:43 PM  
Close the bars?   It would be just like the toilet paper storage.  When offices closed toilet paper was still in the business supply chain.  It took months to release it so that stores could sell it.  Same with food. Restaurants close - - no food for home use.

The same will happen with booze.
 
2020-07-05 1:31:19 PM  
DUI's are the cheapest at home.
 
2020-07-05 1:37:13 PM  
My area has been fortunate with very few cases so restaurants are allowed 75% capacity. I've been out the past two nights despite telling myself I should just stay home. Difficulty: my central air conditioner is down, and it's the middle of a heat wave. With 16 active cases and nobody in the hospital (population 1.3M), that's a risk I'm comfortable with. After seeing videos of morons in Texas, Florida, and Arizona from the past few days, I would definitely be staying home if I was in the US.
 
2020-07-05 1:42:19 PM  

Mugato: Xai: Mugato: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Because things are so much better than when everything closed?

I'm saying close the places that contribute to 90% of infections to allow the lesser places to open without doing a Texas/Florida.

But I forgot about religious gatherings, yeah, ban those.

I do video and web stuff for theme parks so it does suck that they're closed but it would kind of suck to be at any of them. They take your temperature when you go in, you have to wear a mask in 100 degree heat. Sounds nightmarish.


And the even worse option is that people don't wear the masks. Although, from what I understand I think that a policy of "masks mandatory indoors, optional outdoors" might be a good way to go. Especially if places actually follow through on the "limited capacity" promises
 
2020-07-05 1:46:25 PM  
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Those who can, do.
Those who cant, drink at bars.
 
2020-07-05 2:36:03 PM  

Mugato: Xai: Mugato: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Because things are so much better than when everything closed?

I'm saying close the places that contribute to 90% of infections to allow the lesser places to open without doing a Texas/Florida.

But I forgot about religious gatherings, yeah, ban those.

I do video and web stuff for theme parks so it does suck that they're closed but it would kind of suck to be at any of them. They take your temperature when you go in, you have to wear a mask in 100 degree heat. Sounds nightmarish.


I wasn't advocating people not wear masks. I was just saying that going to a theme park in 100 degree heat,having to take a temperature test before even going in might not the the ideal situation for a vacation.
 
2020-07-05 2:44:33 PM  

Mugato: Mugato: Xai: Mugato: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Because things are so much better than when everything closed?

I'm saying close the places that contribute to 90% of infections to allow the lesser places to open without doing a Texas/Florida.

But I forgot about religious gatherings, yeah, ban those.

I do video and web stuff for theme parks so it does suck that they're closed but it would kind of suck to be at any of them. They take your temperature when you go in, you have to wear a mask in 100 degree heat. Sounds nightmarish.

I wasn't advocating people not wear masks. I was just saying that going to a theme park in 100 degree heat,having to take a temperature test before even going in might not the the ideal situation for a vacation.


Sorry, I didn't mean to make it seem like I thought you were anti-mask. Though I can see how you thought so, so...ooops
 
2020-07-05 2:46:00 PM  
Drunks don't need bars. Bored people do.

Drunks can do bad all by myself.
 
2020-07-05 3:42:31 PM  

TWX: enry: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Indoor malls

They're effectively closed already.  Hell, Metro Center, the mall that was the filming location for Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, just announced it's permanently closing.


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2020-07-05 3:52:54 PM  

TWX: enry: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Indoor malls

They're effectively closed already.  Hell, Metro Center, the mall that was the filming location for Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, just announced it's permanently closing.


Metrocenter hasn't been a real mall for 15 years at least. The last plan I saw was mixed use medical center/housing complex with some shopping. This was 2016, it's been in trouble for years, COVID had nothing to do with it. The neighborhood has gone to shiat, there was even a shooting there a few years ago. It was already dying. Hell, the ice rink has been gone since about 1991. I particularly like how their first step in this "revitalization plan" was to build a Walmart. Yeah, that'll really class up the neighborhood.

It's too bad, Metrocenter was a cool mall back when I worked there. But it's been dying for awhile now.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/money​/​real-estate/catherine-reagor/2016/06/0​6/phoenixs-aging-metrocenter-may-get-m​uch-needed-makeover/85504614/
 
2020-07-05 4:14:52 PM  
Oh, and the company that was so hot on redeveloping Metrocenter in 2016? THey were ready to give up and sell it back in January. Not anything to due with the pandemic, it's just a declining mall in a declning neighborhood.
https://azbex.com/metrocenter-seeking​-​a-revival/
 
2020-07-05 4:59:08 PM  
They need to replace Anthony Fauci with George Thorogood.
 
2020-07-05 5:13:32 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: M-G: If only there were ways to procure alcohol and consume it in your home...

Here in Georgia they just made home delivery of liquor legal.  Woot.

It wasn't all that long ago that you couldn't buy alcohol in stores on Sundays.  But you could go to a bar, lol


My first Sunday after moving to Atlanta was quite a revelation. And not a good one, when I walked into the package store. And yeah, I never got that, "Well, you can go to a bar and drive home drunk on the lord's day instead..." logic.
 
2020-07-05 6:35:37 PM  
So Texas is coming for the rest of us?

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2020-07-05 7:53:45 PM  

bostonguy: Xai: Honestly the main things we need to close are gyms, restaurants and bars. Everything else can be open with sensible restrictions.

Religious gatherings.


Okay. And protests too. If some suffer restrictions on rights, all should.
 
2020-07-05 7:54:24 PM  

Godscrack: Shut churches down too. All religious events. Same way people can drink at home, they can pray at home.

No more priests sticking their fingers in mouths to give communion. People hugging/holding hands. All filthy carriers.


No more shoulder to shoulder protests.
 
2020-07-05 10:24:39 PM  

germ78: Tr0mBoNe: If you really start to miss it, start a bar in your house. You could open it up to the public, too. Perhaps even call it a public house.

If the authorities don't like it, keep it on the down-low and have only trusted patrons speak an easy password to gain entry.


Private Public Privates House?
 
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