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2020-07-04 12:36:05 PM  
Was that wrong?
 
2020-07-04 1:09:14 PM  
There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.

These people just end up in other jurisdictions that protect these monsters from accountability and responsibility. Enough already
 
2020-07-04 4:04:32 PM  
I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.  Oh, you mean the one where they were investigated and found to show profoundly poor judgement in what they do while wearing the uniform in making fun of someone who died while in police custody?  Farking POS FOP needs to go.  No, it wasn't criminal, but it was extremely poor judgement and shows that they have no respect for the life that ended while in police custody.
 
2020-07-04 5:07:24 PM  
The person who hires these people should also get fired.
 
2020-07-04 5:08:30 PM  
From my side, I feel sorry for them.
They'll probably end up really bored for the next two weeks until they land another police job in another's jurisdiction before even spending all of that month's salary.
:'(
 
2020-07-04 5:09:10 PM  
Cops are farking subhuman scumbags.
 
2020-07-04 5:10:00 PM  
They fired an officer that they admit had absolutely nothing to do with this? That's not cool.   Splash damage?
 
2020-07-04 5:15:31 PM  

SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.  Oh, you mean the one where they were investigated and found to show profoundly poor judgement in what they do while wearing the uniform in making fun of someone who died while in police custody?  Farking POS FOP needs to go.  No, it wasn't criminal, but it was extremely poor judgement and shows that they have no respect for the life that ended while in police custody.


The FOP is a cancer and the biggest thing keeping the police from being respected again. Doesn't matter how sick or heinous a police officer is being, the FOP is always there to make excuses for it.
 
2020-07-04 5:16:10 PM  
That's it, keep pushing ya farkwits.
 
2020-07-04 5:16:44 PM  

Butterflew: There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.

These people just end up in other jurisdictions that protect these monsters from accountability and responsibility. Enough already


Actually, Interim Chief Vanessa Wilson said yesterday that the one officer who resigned will have it noted that he was "expected to be terminated," and along with the other terminated officers, will never be allowed to work law enforcement in the state of Colorado.

I just moved back to Aurora. Honestly, I think the APD's morale problems stem from ongoing trauma stemming from the Aurora Theatre Shooting.

One APD officer who attended high school with me in Aurora, was tasked with undoing the booby traps the Theatre Shooter created in his apartment. It took weeks of laborious work and not knowing if he would see his family that night. After that was done, my classmate spiraled mentally. Shortly after his divorce, he died by suicide.
 
2020-07-04 5:19:41 PM  

SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.  Oh, you mean the one where they were investigated and found to show profoundly poor judgement in what they do while wearing the uniform in making fun of someone who died while in police custody?  Farking POS FOP needs to go.  No, it wasn't criminal, but it was extremely poor judgement and shows that they have no respect for the life that ended while in police custody.


And to add to this, because I'm not sure you mentioned it.. but it is poor judgement to say the least and shows they don't have the mental capacity of what should be required to be a law enforcement officer when they're making fun of something at a memorial site of a ducking person who died in police custody.
 
2020-07-04 5:20:02 PM  
Don't let the 95% of cops who are horrible people ruin it for the 5% who are good.
 
2020-07-04 5:22:24 PM  
As someone in Aurora, this police department needs a fresh start. It's beyond corrupt.
 
2020-07-04 5:27:06 PM  
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#ACAB
 
2020-07-04 5:28:56 PM  
 
2020-07-04 5:30:38 PM  

sirgrim: As someone in Aurora, this police department needs a fresh start. It's beyond corrupt.


it is a problem when the hiring requirements are a high school diploma and a three hour online course and then you get a license to kill. imagine if McDonalds employees could shoot you in the back for complaining about your order being wrong. it is basically the same thing.

hire under qualified people, win stupid prizes.
 
2020-07-04 5:33:41 PM  
We expect the police to have some common f*cking sense.  Doing this shows you have none at all.  Go be stupid in a different job.
 
2020-07-04 5:35:00 PM  

chucknasty: imagine if McDonalds employees could shoot you in the back for complaining about your order being wrong.


It would certainly cut down on the number of karens going crazy because they ordered a large fry, not a small, you incompetent high school drop-out.
 
2020-07-04 5:37:21 PM  

OgreMagi: chucknasty: imagine if McDonalds employees could shoot you in the back for complaining about your order being wrong.

It would certainly cut down on the number of karens going crazy because they ordered a large fry, not a small, you incompetent high school drop-out.


I cannot argue that point. I almost wish for it.
 
2020-07-04 5:39:37 PM  

Butterflew: There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.

These people just end up in other jurisdictions that protect these monsters from accountability and responsibility. Enough already


Biden's proposed police database will make it harder for bad cops to get rehired, because potentially hiring police departments won't have any excuse for not knowing a new hire's performance record. If your department hires a known thug, your department will be held liable when that thug thugs out on civilians in his custody.
 
2020-07-04 5:40:14 PM  
Disgusting pigs.
 
2020-07-04 5:46:46 PM  

youncasqua: Butterflew: There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.

These people just end up in other jurisdictions that protect these monsters from accountability and responsibility. Enough already

Biden's proposed police database will make it harder for bad cops to get rehired, because potentially hiring police departments won't have any excuse for not knowing a new hire's performance record. If your department hires a known thug, your department will be held liable when that thug thugs out on civilians in his custody.


But will they care? The settlements don't come out of the department budget, usually the city or county pay them.

Unless it actually impacts the department they really may not care. Make settlements/judgments above a certain amount start impacting their pay, benefits, or retirement, and then you might see some action.
 
2020-07-04 5:47:04 PM  
I actually read the comments and they were mostly...sane. Weird.

On another note: How devoid of humanity do you need to be to do some shiat like this?
 
2020-07-04 5:51:52 PM  
The story of Elijah McClain's murder affected me even more than the other cop murders. He was autistic, a young man who played the violin for cats at a local animal shelter, who basically begged the cops for his life and amazingly had enough strength to speak out about how much he lived a good life, that he wouldn't hurt a fly; apologized to the cops who killed him, and even said he loved the cops.

Fark those cops who killed Elijah, and these three cops who mock his death. The kid went to the store to buy a drink, and it cost him his life.
 
2020-07-04 5:55:56 PM  

SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.


The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.
 
2020-07-04 5:56:17 PM  

TomDooley: So, same dept which felt the need to bust up a violin vigil: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vi​deo/2020/jun/29/elijah-mcclain-vigil-p​olice-pepper-spray-violin-protest


They probably thought it was a typo and it actually was supposed to read violent. That's the problem with a generation raised on bad autocorrect =)
 
2020-07-04 5:57:07 PM  

Butterflew: There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.


The other exception I can see is anyone fired for reporting the activities of their corrupt colleagues.
 
2020-07-04 6:00:09 PM  

chucknasty: sirgrim: As someone in Aurora, this police department needs a fresh start. It's beyond corrupt.

it is a problem when the hiring requirements are a high school diploma and a three hour online course and then you get a license to kill. imagine if McDonalds employees could shoot you in the back for complaining about your order being wrong. it is basically the same thing.

hire under qualified people, win stupid prizes.


Really?!? All the departments near me require a 2 year degree and then completing the academy, it's been like that at least 42 years because that's when my FiL graduated the academy. Don't get me wrong, there are still plenty of PoS on the departments here, but at least they aren't completely ignorant idiots.
 
2020-07-04 6:02:43 PM  

CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.


Anyone else ever notice that everyone involved in these situations, from the poor, unarmed victim to the chief of police is expected to react with care, due process and follow the rules?

Everyone, that is, except the cops themselves. They can do whatever the fark they want, including act as judge, jury and literal executioner. Cuz they are ascared.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-07-04 6:06:21 PM  

Mrtraveler01: The FOP is a cancer and the biggest thing keeping the police from being respected again. Doesn't matter how sick or heinous a police officer is being, the FOP is always there to make excuses for it.


I don't see how police get restructured and reformed without making FOP orgs illegal.  Also the contracts these groups negotiated need to be invalidated.

And, yes, they still could collectively bargain, just as a part of a civil worker's union instead.  What we have with the police unions is a street gang with government lobbyists.  They are a threat to the peace of the country.
 
2020-07-04 6:07:00 PM  

CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.


Oh heavens, the union will be FORCED to fight to keep the murderers on the job!
 
2020-07-04 6:07:19 PM  

WillJM8528: I actually read the comments and they were mostly...sane. Weird.

On another note: How devoid of humanity do you need to be to do some shiat like this?


It speaks to how off the rails police culture has gotten.  I can't imagine any decent person doing this but get caught up in a macho culture where killing people is praised and celebrated  and even decent people can get lashed in to doing some really stupid shiat that, if left alone, they'd really regret down the road.

The point is not take mercy on these people because they're just like us, the point is we must act swiftly to crush the poisonous culture.  Sadly some otherwise good people will be crushed with it.
 
2020-07-04 6:07:34 PM  

Butterflew: There should be a rule where if youre fired from the police you shouldn't be able to join another or work in any type of law enforcement/security again.

The only exception would be being let go because of budget cuts after we defund their asses.

These people just end up in other jurisdictions that protect these monsters from accountability and responsibility. Enough already


There should be a national police officer registry that holds your discipline record and can suspend your registry. Remaining compliant on said registry should be mandatory to work as a police officer.
 
2020-07-04 6:07:41 PM  
They still don't get it . They don't think it's wrong. They think that's just some libby opinion.
 
2020-07-04 6:08:41 PM  
This is just sickening.
 
2020-07-04 6:08:44 PM  

The Dog Ate My Homework: Don't let the 95% of cops who are horrible people ruin it for the 5% who are good.


Thank you. I was a cop for 9 years. Rose to the rank of Lt. Had to get out because the system is farked and I could change nothing, to my utter frustration. That was back in the 70's and 80's, and I have had lots of therapy since then and am now at peace with myself and my inability. Maui Wowee helps, too.
 
2020-07-04 6:11:51 PM  

edmo: They still don't get it . They don't think it's wrong. They think that's just some libby opinion.


They're not the only ones. I've stopped talking to several people over the past few weeks with the above opinion. Was either that or just start shouting at them.
 
2020-07-04 6:12:36 PM  

OgreMagi: We expect the police to have some common f*cking sense.  Doing this shows you have none at all.  Go be stupid in a different job.


No we don't. Psych evals for cops look FOR social dissonance, as a positive!  We want Batman, alone against a world of leaders and criminals. By we, I mean society as a whole, apparently.
 
2020-07-04 6:14:37 PM  

FarketyFarkerson: Everyone, that is, except the cops themselves. They can do whatever the fark they want, including act as judge, jury and literal executioner.


So you're saying that everyone should follow the rules. Unless you disagree with the rules, in which case it's okay to ignore them.

Isn't that just what these cops did?
 
2020-07-04 6:17:59 PM  
I feeeeeel like I'm in immediate danger around anyone like that.

*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*

oops i had to kill some people because my feeeeeelz uber alles
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-07-04 6:19:36 PM  
CruiserTwelve:The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.

This is the fig leaf that EVERY police union is using to fight for bad cops to be reinstated.

It's also funny that people that believe most everyone should be able to be fired at the drop of the hat in the at will employment states don't even think cops should be able to be fired for cause.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-07-04 6:20:50 PM  

gameshowhost: I feeeeeel like I'm in immediate danger around anyone like that.

*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*

oops i had to kill some people because my feeeeeelz uber alles


I always am amused that being pants shiatting scared is the excuse that many of these cops have used to be able to shoot anyone they please.
 
2020-07-04 6:21:05 PM  

CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.


You mean the disciplinary process the union insisted on in the first place that meant months of free vacation before the 3 officers are subject to "internal discipline" the details of which are in sealed files far from public scrutiny? Don't act like going through "the process" means jack-shiat for punishing bad cops.
 
2020-07-04 6:29:17 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.

You mean the disciplinary process the union insisted on in the first place that meant months of free vacation before the 3 officers are subject to "internal discipline" the details of which are in sealed files far from public scrutiny? Don't act like going through "the process" means jack-shiat for punishing bad cops.


Not to mention the sealing of all things that should be public, like battering ones spouse
 
2020-07-04 6:30:22 PM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.

You mean the disciplinary process the union insisted on in the first place that meant months of free vacation before the 3 officers are subject to "internal discipline" the details of which are in sealed files far from public scrutiny? Don't act like going through "the process" means jack-shiat for punishing bad cops.


Ok, this will be unpopular, but what the hell.

First off, keep in mind I have no particular love of cops.  I have been harassed plenty because I look native.  Second, I am not a fan of unions.

But one  purpose of a union is to ensure that an individual can't be fired because their manager is having a pissy day.  Therefore, there is a disciplinary process that is agreed to and must be followed.  Now, that is obviously not the case here, and the disciplinary process should have taken as long as it took to schedule a meeting, tell the union 'Fark you, they are fired", and sign the paperwork.  But the process still has to be followed.

That said, the union agreements should be modified, so asshats like this can be terminated with cause, bypassing the disciplinary process.
 
2020-07-04 7:12:47 PM  

CruiserTwelve: FarketyFarkerson: Everyone, that is, except the cops themselves. They can do whatever the fark they want, including act as judge, jury and literal executioner.

So you're saying that everyone should follow the rules. Unless you disagree with the rules, in which case it's okay to ignore them.

Isn't that just what these cops did?


You're correct.  They should be given the same rights as any other criminal.
 
2020-07-04 7:14:30 PM  
Are they gay?
Because they look gay.
I thought gay people were supposed to be smart & sensitive.
That female one looks like she eats ass.
Was there ass eating involved?

/Inquiring minds
 
2020-07-04 7:22:24 PM  

d23: This is the fig leaf that EVERY police union is using to fight for bad cops to be reinstated. It's also funny that people that believe most everyone should be able to be fired at the drop of the hat in the at will employment states don't even think cops should be able to be fired for cause.


The disciplinary process allows for cops to be fired for cause and that happens all the time. Nobody wants bad cops to be retained on a police department, but they also don't want good cops to be fired because the mayor's kid got a ticket.
 
2020-07-04 7:29:02 PM  

d23: gameshowhost: I feeeeeel like I'm in immediate danger around anyone like that.

*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*

oops i had to kill some people because my feeeeeelz uber alles

I always am amused that being pants shiatting scared is the excuse that many of these cops have used to be able to shoot anyone they please.


They are terrified of the sensitive snowflakes that have to run for "safe spaces" but will punch a Nazi in the face. It's a real problem.
 
2020-07-04 7:30:43 PM  

CruiserTwelve: SpaceyCat: I read another article where the FOP was lamenting the lack of "due process" for these officers.

The union wasn't defending the officer's conduct, they were defending the agreed upon disciplinary process. The interim chief ignored that process in a rush to get these guys fired. What is now possible is that these guys get reinstated with back pay instead of being terminated as they should be.


Wait.... so you're saying that they deserve due process? You know who else deserved due process?
I'd say they deserve the worlds smallest violin, but considering how much they like to kill violin playing kids? They shouldnt even get that. Cops can get due process when they give it.
 
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