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2020-07-04 1:05:16 PM  
13 votes:
This ranking is based on four metrics: the number of fatalities per 100 million miles driven in each state, DUI arrests per 1000 drivers, the percentage of uninsured drivers, and how often residents Google the terms "speeding ticket" or "traffic ticket."

- how often residents Google the terms "speeding ticket" or "traffic ticket."


That one is just plain farking stupid.

- DUI arrests per 1000 drivers

There is an enforcement level issue here. What portion of impaired drivers are actually being caught in the various states?

- the percentage of uninsured drivers

Got to think about that one a little. Just being uninsured doesn't automatically make someone incapable or careless behind the wheel. One could posit that the very act of being uninsured is an act of negligence. One could then counter that this metric has a bias against states with greater poverty levels.

- number of fatalities per 100 million miles driven

Somewhat worthwhile, at least it's an actual measurable outcome. To really isolate "bad drivers" among such statistics you would need to correct for things not related to driver skill, like population (or more specific, traffic) density.

Overall, their whole approach is hilariously bad, yet this is their fourth annual version of it. It's pretty clearly not an attempt to provide a public benefit by distinguishing states with good drivers vs. those with bad. It's the lowest BS effort to throw together easy-to-acquire numbers that will get puked back up at a high number of click-bait sites in the hope that it will ultimately lead to more customers for their personal finance services.
 
2020-07-04 12:38:22 PM  
10 votes:
Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.
 
2020-07-04 4:52:45 PM  
7 votes:

mikaloyd: Another Government Employee: Miami has the worst mix of Latin and Elderly and Orlando drivers would just as soon run over you that to yield.


How do you feel about black drivers and women drivers and Asian drivers?


Black drivers are pretty predictable and cautious. Asians tend to be aggressive, stopping too quickly at red lights (I've nearly ran up the back of a few). Latin folks think stop signs are a suggestion. Elderly...well you don't know if they are going to hit the gas or the brakes.

And of course, we privileged Crackers think we own the road.
 
2020-07-04 4:26:05 PM  
7 votes:
Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it
 
2020-07-04 1:25:02 PM  
7 votes:
It's not my fault the slow left lane drivers in Illinois all have Wisconsin plates, subby. If you're in the left lane, you'd better be driving fast enough to overtake the traffic in the right lane in a reasonable amount of time. None of this rolling roadblock shiat that I keep seeing happening.

/Illinois driver
//drives aggressively when needed
 
2020-07-04 12:52:59 PM  
7 votes:
No Maryland? What the hell?
 
2020-07-04 4:31:21 PM  
6 votes:
I thought MAssholes were the worst drivers in America too.  Then I moved to Miami.  First day I was there I drove past the scene of a fatal accident.  It didn't get all that better.  I probably saw more accidents there in the year I lived there than I've seen in the rest of my life combined.
 
2020-07-04 4:31:08 PM  
6 votes:

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


Ohio cops patrol the highways very aggressively. In most states, you're might see a cop in the entire time you're in the state. In Ohio, they'll park at the state line ready and waiting and you'll see more of them every few miles. Locals know this, which is why they drive like they're paranoid of getting a ticket, because they are paranoid of getting a ticket.
 
2020-07-04 1:49:31 PM  
6 votes:
Maryland and Ohio were out reenacting scenes from Mad Max while this listicle was being generated.
 
2020-07-04 1:48:29 PM  
6 votes:
MA is the best of the lot?!?!?!  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

What farking stupid metrics are they using?!  *reads source*  Really?  Yeah, no.
 
2020-07-04 5:02:22 PM  
5 votes:

NINEv2: twat_waffle: germ78: It's not my fault the slow left lane drivers in Illinois all have Wisconsin plates, subby. If you're in the left lane, you'd better be driving fast enough to overtake the traffic in the right lane in a reasonable amount of time. None of this rolling roadblock shiat that I keep seeing happening.

/Illinois driver
//drives aggressively when needed

This. It's not my fault that Sconnies don't know how to use the passing lane. Almost every time I pass someone on the right, it's a farking Sconnie.

Yep.

And as far as the rest of the state, it's the suburbanite jackasses that are the most dangerous. Downtown Chicago: aggressive but predictable. Anywhere else in the state: not enough people.


Yeah, pretty much. Rockford drivers drive like they think Chicago drivers drive, but they don't really know shiat about driving in Chicago. Then they say they won't drive in Chicago because Chicago drivers are psychotic.

The first time I took my friends to Chicago, they were white knuckling the Jesus handles like they were on a rollercoaster. Meanwhile, I'm merging perfectly, going the speed of traffic, and changing lanes like a farking boss on the Kennedy as we approach the Circle and then get on the Ike. To be fair, I learned city driving in Toronto, which isn't as forgiving as Chicago.

/Chicago cabbies ARE psychotic, though
//And the speed limits are a joke
///not a particularly funny one, but a joke nonetheless
 
2020-07-04 4:37:44 PM  
5 votes:
Georgia is not on the list? They must have been drunk the last time they hit Atlanta.

I will agree to both Tennessee and Florida. Chattanooga can be downright scary and Nashville has the most outdated roads. Knoxville is almost as bad. Miami has the worst mix of Latin and Elderly and Orlando drivers would just as soon run over you that to yield.
 
2020-07-04 4:37:03 PM  
5 votes:

Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.


Heh, fair.

I've driven to Chicago a bunch so what those drivers do is "normal" for them and how Chicago traffic is.  When they drive up to WI it's abnormal for how most of WI drives so it causes problems.

Plenty of terrible drivers in WI as well.  Thankfully I'm working remote and don't have to deal with the Madison Beltline for a while.
 
2020-07-04 4:24:22 PM  
5 votes:
I know they're trolling because MASSholes are the worst drivers in the country.

/Floridians would be worse, but they're too clueless to be worse, MASSholes are purposefully bad
 
2020-07-04 12:23:46 PM  
5 votes:
From the original source...

Massachusetts performs best. Though people who have to drive every day in Boston may disagree, Massachusetts has the fewest bad drivers in the nation, according to our study. The Bay State ranks within the best 10 states for three of the four metrics we considered, including having the fewest fatalities in the study per 100 million vehicle miles driven.

I've seen this since I lived in Boston twenty years ago. I've been on roads from NYC to LA to the mountains of Yunnan and Borneo, and the only thing preventing MA from going first to worst is the fact that they can't get going fast enough to kill anyone.
 
2020-07-04 6:39:46 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-07-04 4:48:27 PM  
4 votes:

TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it


That's because we've got to slalom through the expressways. You guys like to hang out in the passing lane. Seriously, every time I've driven from Beloit to Madison I've had to pass more people on the right than on the left.
 
2020-07-04 4:33:04 PM  
4 votes:
If I95 runs through the state (yes that includes you, PA) it belongs on the list
 
2020-07-04 4:31:39 PM  
4 votes:

TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it


WI drivers have one speed regardless of conditions and situation. Clear day, no traffic, 68 mph. Foggy and icy, 68 mph. Construction zone with people working, 68 mph.
 
2020-07-04 4:31:24 PM  
4 votes:

TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it


I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.
 
2020-07-04 7:18:31 PM  
3 votes:

dbrunker: Why Oregon drivers are bad:

Two cars come to a stop sign.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
Both go in frustration.
Crash.


Never pull into traffic when someone is waving you in
 
2020-07-04 6:53:45 PM  
3 votes:
As bad as the drivers are in Portland, Salem has it's own special drivers - I have lived in 13 states and driven in all of the 48 contiguous states and have never seen so many people run red lights as here.  When we moved down, I quickly developed the habit of waiting a second or two before entering an intersection.  Honk all you want, bro.

Every city seems to have a specialty though:
Portland - driving at night without headlights.
Las Vegas - making left turns from the right lane.
LA area - passing on the right, even if it means driving on the shoulder.
 
2020-07-04 6:51:54 PM  
3 votes:

The Goddamn Batman: No Maryland? What the hell?


Came here for this.

As far as out of state plates go, if you see Maryland, look out.
 
2020-07-04 6:23:04 PM  
3 votes:
I've been to 47 states, having driven in them all. Above and beyond: Massholes are the worst, IMHO. What other state has people who think its ok to pull out HALF WAY into a road and stop traffic?  Right of way to a Masshole translates to 'MY Right of way'.

Massholes.
 
2020-07-04 5:38:00 PM  
3 votes:

SpaceyCat: MA is the best of the lot?!?!?!  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

What farking stupid metrics are they using?!  *reads source*  Really?  Yeah, no.


CSB:  A friend was waiting to cross the street at an intersection in Boston, standing next to a cop, when a car came tearing the wrong way up a one way street, blew the stoplight, and headed off the wrong way on another one way street.  The cop laughed and said to my friend "Wow!  Did you see that?"
 
2020-07-04 5:36:52 PM  
3 votes:
It's not a state but Philadelphia has the worst drivers of any place in which I have lived.  That place was thunderdome. The only place where I have frequently seen what I have since dubbed the "Philadelphia U-turn", whereby on any road, at any part of the road, in any traffic condition, at any time of day, regardless of trailing or opposing traffic, a driver will, without warning or blinker, make a quick and sudden U-turn because they decided that very second they wanted to be traveling the opposite direction.
 
2020-07-04 5:33:51 PM  
3 votes:
I spent 2 months on business in TX driving all over from Dallas to Houston to Laredo to San Antonio to Austin back to Dallas and finally Houston for a month.  Good God was Houston a nightmare.  All the main highways were under construction.  Lanes stopped and started for no reason.  Fark whatever was going on with the Katy Freeway.  This was in the mid aughts so I have no idea if Katy ever got done or if any of it ever got better.  Ive driven in most major cities outside of CA, Ive lived in NYC metro area and lived a lot of my life in southish Florida and that whole Houston experience is the one that sticks out as totally awful.
 
2020-07-04 5:08:40 PM  
3 votes:
i disagree with all the ihsults directed at Mass. drivers. We are agressive, angry, inconsiderate, and abrasive. But skilled. if you just assume that the dude in the left lane is going to cut across 3 lanes to make the exit, you'll be ok.
Now if we could get rid of all the yahoos from NH clogging up the roads...
 
2020-07-04 5:06:03 PM  
3 votes:
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2020-07-04 4:47:25 PM  
3 votes:

johnny_vegas: They must not have considered Washington DC and what the fark happened to New Jersey?


NJ drivers aren't bad, they understand the rules of war better than most.

/Your blinker gives away your plan to the enemy.
 
2020-07-04 4:46:24 PM  
3 votes:
Ever notice how the default opinion of whiny dorks worldwide is "Practically everybody except me is a terrible driver"
 
2020-07-04 4:37:50 PM  
3 votes:

LarryDan43: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

WI drivers have one speed regardless of conditions and situation. Clear day, no traffic, 68 mph. Foggy and icy, 68 mph. Construction zone with people working, 68 mph.


Heh, I wish that were true.

The first dusting of snow turns my 10 minute commute into a 30 minute shiatshow.
 
2020-07-04 4:27:48 PM  
3 votes:
Boston demands a recount.
Preferably on 128 on a holiday weekend.

Florida reclines in the corner, arms crossed and smiles knowingly.
 
2020-07-04 1:24:33 PM  
3 votes:

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


I was with you most of the way, but CA is about as bad as it gets for left lane abuse, and the Phoenix valley area is basically what Massholes would be like if they had space to get up to speed. TX doesn't deserve its place on the list tho, and TN absolutely does.
 
2020-07-04 12:47:51 PM  
3 votes:
Louisiana needs to be WAY higher than 11. Horrible drivers, a ton of uninsured vehicles, and drive through daquiris.
Anecdotal and all, but my SO saw a guy in Lafayette LA chasing down his pick up truck that he'd gotten out of to retrieve the cell phone that he dropped. He failed to put it in park before he got out, and it was rolling away when he turned to walk back to it. His truck was in the suicide lane of a main road.
After a few years of living in Lafayette, neither of us was surprised by this.
 
2020-07-04 12:25:21 PM  
3 votes:
MA is the first state that popped into my head.
 
2020-07-05 12:32:17 PM  
2 votes:

Dewey Fidalgo: TomDooley: In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue. More lane hogs.

Meh.   Are you one of those dicks that speeds along to the end and then tries to force your way into the left lane at the last minute?  Yeah, you people suck.  :)


Are you one of those people that think it's your mission to stop them? You suck worse.
 
2020-07-04 8:58:29 PM  
2 votes:
Military brat and then career Navy - in my life I have travelled to 75 countries and all 50 states (admit the numbers are a bit fudged because some of the places no longer exist and some places I went to didn't exist yet). Anyway, my birth-state of Illinois, where we lived for 10 yrs to care for my mother and some other elderly relatives, remains the only place where I was in traffic accidents. In my life I have driven on both sides of the road, taken rotaries clockwise and counter-, and never have I ever hit anything nor any one. Yet, in Rockford, IL I was rear ended 4 (count'em -4) times, and each time I was not moving: Twice I was parked  in lots and the other two times I was stopped at a red light. All four times in daylight and summer weather.

(The last time I was struck by a 16 year old who was with her legally blind grandfather, who was yet in possession of a valid driving license, so he was the legal driver accompanying her). She tried to park in a handicapped spot, the kind with diagonal lines on each side giving an additional 6' of space on either side, which made the spot an estimated minimum of 24' wide - and she missed. Her first words were, "I have trouble parking." She stove in my driver's side quarter-panel wheel well. Another removed my driver's side mirror trying to back out of a parking lot stall. The other two rear-ended me at red-lights, one in front of the Public Safety Building and the other in front of  the Secretary of State's Office (where driving tests are held and licenses issued). The last one, with her husband and 3 children, all unbuckled and unsecured, the children standing in the rear seat - I saw them in my mirror when they hit tumble into the foot wells between the seats.

I learned why, after living in California for 30 years I couldn't remember seeing "collision centers" but in Illinois they are rather thick on the ground, seeming to be in about every-other block. My late sister-in-law took her Ed.D. in Driving Education and was a state examiner of drivers' ed. teachers, they getting her approval to teach the subject in both classroom and behind wheel in schools; she scared the bejesus outta Hubby and me when we were passengers since she always waited until the last possible second to brake. (Once Hubby, dozing in the back seat, was nearly concussed when his head banged into the head rest behind the passenger seat where I sat!). Between her and Hubby, that I am alive is amazing.

The one thing I liked about Illinois Rules of the Road is that at intersections drivers going in opposing directions can turn into the same direction of traffic because they are required to stay in their lanes of travel, whereas in CA drivers may turn into the first two lanes.
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In IL the blue & yellow cars can turn at the same time, or the black and red, but in CA either car can turn into either of the two lanes, so one must yield, but CA law is a bit vague if there is no active arrow. In CA you don't have to keep your lane when turning but in IL you do. In this,
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I prefer Illinois. I went to HS there and received my 1st license from IL, but any Californian who moves there is in for a shock when making a lazy (not tight) turn and is hit; if they didn't keep their lane, they'll pay. If they have green lights& arrows, all four cars shown can turn at the same time, (Seems to confuse Cheeseheads, too, as much as their pass-on-the-right lanes do us Flatlanders at first.)

And I'm really thankful WI finally abolished that damn "Can't Pass No Tractors, Nope, Not Ever, Not You, Can't Do!" Law. I was behind one up by our cottage for what felt like 3 days, and because of that law, Farmer Oblivious won't use hand signals when turning left from the highway into the barnyard.

What would be nice is if we had a Federal Standard Rules of the Road so we don't die just because we don't know different rules in different states.

BTW: for all those who think any driver in CA who has 5 or more vehicles behind them must pull off into a lay-by to let them pass? That rule is only in mountains and hills; in flatland, if you are behind someone obeying the speed limit (55 mph on non-freeways) on a flat highway, then you shoulda gotten up earlier. Time to practice some Driving Zen.
 
2020-07-04 8:43:18 PM  
2 votes:
They clearly did not factor in the "asshole scale," which is why Ohio is not at the top of the list.
 
2020-07-04 8:20:41 PM  
2 votes:

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To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.


My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.
 
2020-07-04 7:25:42 PM  
2 votes:
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2020-07-04 7:18:57 PM  
2 votes:

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


I'd strongly disagree with your texas.  Texas has to be one of the worst places I've ever driven.  If a right turn lane was completely packed I saw countless people either use the straight lane or left turn lane (if it was T intersection) to bypass traffic and then turn right from lanes.  People would use onramps to bypass traffic.  People driving 5 under in left lane on highway.  If someone actually used a turn signal it was a pleasant surprise.  Stopping before turning on red?  Ha.  That's a joke.  People just turning into traffic without looking or just not caring if someone had to slam on breaks to avoid t-boning them.

It's like every texas driver was the embodiment of "don't mess with texas" except they are individually texas.  They just didn't not give a fark and would act like they're the most important thing around and everyone else had to bend to their needs.

Going exactly the flow of traffic with no room to really go any faster or not?  Tailgate you to get you out of their way like you're the one holding up traffic.

I've never seen so many red light runners and I've spent years living in and driving in chicago

I'd take NY, NJ, or california drivers any farking day.
 
2020-07-04 7:13:01 PM  
2 votes:
Why Oregon drivers are bad:

Two cars come to a stop sign.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
Both go in frustration.
Crash.
 
2020-07-04 7:12:31 PM  
2 votes:
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To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.
 
2020-07-04 6:51:38 PM  
2 votes:

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


I've driven 49 states. Worst were West Virginia and Utah. Best was Delaware.
 
2020-07-04 6:23:18 PM  
2 votes:

Dr. Nick Riviera: It's not a state but Philadelphia has the worst drivers of any place in which I have lived.  That place was thunderdome. The only place where I have frequently seen what I have since dubbed the "Philadelphia U-turn", whereby on any road, at any part of the road, in any traffic condition, at any time of day, regardless of trailing or opposing traffic, a driver will, without warning or blinker, make a quick and sudden U-turn because they decided that very second they wanted to be traveling the opposite direction.


Yeah? Try being a pedestrian in Center City Philadelphia. As a Farkette, would have a purse, or backpack, whilst traipsing through the city. And, as I would cross, with the light in my favor as a pedestrian, sling either large purse or back pack into my right hand, staring hard at the semi-stopped cars, willing, ready 'n able to slam my purse/backpack onto their vehicle if they decided to knee cap me as I was trying to cross the street. Say at.....16th and Walnut.
U turns? Hah.....try avoiding 'em when they're backing up, on Sansom street (one way), for....reasons.....

CSB: True story. So, heading outta Philly on 95 north, just past the bridge. Nice Summer day. Couple of dudes come along side, wanting to know how to get to NYC. An' I jus' knew they were soooo lost, no way would they get to NYC easily off of I95 in Philly. I remember have a great map in the glove compartment, shout at 'em to wait a minute, tells my friend to slow down (he's driving, I'm a passenger), get the map, yell at the dudes, "take this, no way is 95 taking you to NYC!" Hope they made it.
 
2020-07-04 6:18:42 PM  
2 votes:
Massachusetts drivers are shiatty drivers who most likely got their driver's license from the back of a Fruity Pebbles cereal box.

I liked driving in Las Vegas (back when I lived there in the 90s) because 1) the roads everywhere were so wide and pretty much in good shape, that there was room for all drivers; 2) Las Vegas Blvd was so full of traffic, how was anyone gonna speed on the Strip or drive poorly?
 
2020-07-04 5:27:25 PM  
2 votes:

Begoggle: cirby:
They need to throw out their metrics and find a new set.

Well you think the same thing about climate change, so you're not exactly a scientist, are you.


So you think Miami drivers are good?

That about sums it up for your perceptions of accuracy.

How are those AGW predictions coming along, anyway? We already know we're about six to ten feet short on that whole "sea level rise" prediction, and we're a couple of degrees low on temperatures. How's the rest going? Have they gotten any right yet?
 
2020-07-04 5:16:03 PM  
2 votes:
when I moved to RI for grad school many moons ago, my housemate told me RI drivers were the worst -- as he had lived in FL and NYC, I was truly surprised.
"Here's the thing," he said. "If you're driving down a one way in NYC and someone is coming at you the other direction, you know they're trying to kill you. In RI, they're like 'doot de doo...oh, hi there! doot de doo...'" The cluelessness factor of RI drivers was verifiable over my two years there.
 
2020-07-04 4:59:49 PM  
2 votes:

vudukungfu: optikeye: Based on metrics about being caught.

Ohio is not on the list.

No metrics on accidents?
TFA said worst not most criminal


Are they collecting data on Ohio drivers doing 45 MPH in the left lane on the interstate with their right blinker on for 30 miles?
 
2020-07-04 4:58:52 PM  
2 votes:
Also. Living on the Mass/NH border, I have to say that Mass drivers are the worst.
 
2020-07-04 4:49:34 PM  
2 votes:

twat_waffle: germ78: It's not my fault the slow left lane drivers in Illinois all have Wisconsin plates, subby. If you're in the left lane, you'd better be driving fast enough to overtake the traffic in the right lane in a reasonable amount of time. None of this rolling roadblock shiat that I keep seeing happening.

/Illinois driver
//drives aggressively when needed

This. It's not my fault that Sconnies don't know how to use the passing lane. Almost every time I pass someone on the right, it's a farking Sconnie.


Yeah there's a lot of that in WI but there's always that IL person doing the same in WI.

Terrible drivers are everywhere.

PASSING LANE PEOPLE.  PASS, THEN MOVE YOUR ASS.
 
2020-07-04 4:47:45 PM  
2 votes:

twat_waffle: germ78: It's not my fault the slow left lane drivers in Illinois all have Wisconsin plates, subby. If you're in the left lane, you'd better be driving fast enough to overtake the traffic in the right lane in a reasonable amount of time. None of this rolling roadblock shiat that I keep seeing happening.

/Illinois driver
//drives aggressively when needed

This. It's not my fault that Sconnies don't know how to use the passing lane. Almost every time I pass someone on the right, it's a farking Sconnie.


Yep.

And as far as the rest of the state, it's the suburbanite jackasses that are the most dangerous. Downtown Chicago: aggressive but predictable. Anywhere else in the state: not enough people.
 
2020-07-04 4:43:03 PM  
2 votes:

TheFoz: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

Heh, fair.

I've driven to Chicago a bunch so what those drivers do is "normal" for them and how Chicago traffic is.  When they drive up to WI it's abnormal for how most of WI drives so it causes problems.

Plenty of terrible drivers in WI as well.  Thankfully I'm working remote and don't have to deal with the Madison Beltline for a while.


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2020-07-04 4:41:22 PM  
2 votes:
Where the hell are people driving? Everyone knows the New Jersey drivers are the worst in the nation. This is common knowledge. Every other state is better, and that's not a compliment to the other states drivers.
 
wee
2020-07-04 4:39:17 PM  
2 votes:
List is terrible because Florida isn't #1.
 
2020-07-04 4:33:31 PM  
2 votes:

ColonelCathcart: I know they're trolling because MASSholes are the worst drivers in the country.

/Floridians would be worse, but they're too clueless to be worse, MASSholes are purposefully bad


Based on a totally unscientific sample of traffic on the Mass Pike, speeders and weavers are mostly carrying NY or CT plates, or are driving either Benz, Audi or...maybe BMW. And then, there are the Honda and Mazda boy racers.

Also, MA is spotty. People behave pretty well, except when the traffic flow appears to have been designed by the DOT intern. I offer Rt 16 through Wellealey as an example.
 
2020-07-04 4:30:22 PM  
2 votes:

The Goddamn Batman: No Maryland? What the hell?


They had to leave them out - they blew the curve.
 
2020-07-04 4:29:26 PM  
2 votes:
How is Michigan not on that list? Michigan has some of the most suicidal/homicidal drivers I have ever seen.
 
2020-07-04 4:22:58 PM  
2 votes:
The source of that list is QuoteWizard, who also (in a different list) thinks Miami drivers are the fourth BEST.

Which is incredibly stupid.

They need to throw out their metrics and find a new set.
 
2020-07-05 6:52:00 PM  
1 vote:
If you claim you are zipper merging, but you are passing cars in the lane you are going to merge into, you're a liar. If you reaaaaaally want to be this champion of the zipper merge, you'll stay in the disappearing lane while matching the speed of the traffic in the other lane.

But you don't, do you?
 
2020-07-05 2:07:33 PM  
1 vote:
 I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.
 
2020-07-05 12:26:15 PM  
1 vote:

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


Californians are the best because we can text, smoke a bowl, eat sushi with chopsticks, and exit left from the right lane while tailgating you.
 
Al!
2020-07-04 11:13:29 PM  
1 vote:
Lists ranking drivers written by people who have never driven outside their home regions are useless, and even beyond that, their metrics are nearly useless.

As someone who has driven in the majority of the country: Massachusetts is the worst place to drive if you're not from there.  Massachusetts drivers outside of MA are horrible and should be ashamed of themselves.  PA drivers outside of PA might be the worst in the nation.  NYC drivers act like they own the road and do not give a fark what you think, but the driving is quite harmless despite the overwhelming aggressiveness.  Chicago and DC get bad raps, but they're not too bad overall.  It's been 13 years, but the best place to drive I've ever been was Detroit.  You had the entire road to yourself, all day everyday.  We even accidentally drove the wrong way up a one way 3 lane at about noon the first day in town, and no one even saw us.
 
2020-07-04 9:56:03 PM  
1 vote:
Ohio drivers are pretty bad.  They don't seem to understand traffic flow, and prefer everyone to drive at the slow speed they're doing in the fast lane.

Michigan drivers are ok, but they seem bad to most.  Problem is, by law, all cars with a Michigan plate do not come with a gas and break pedal, instead they get a light switch.  Light goes green, flip on the switch and hold on.

However, the worst drivers in American are Canadians.  More specifically, Canadians from the province of Ontario.  You cannot pass one of these SOBs on the highway, else they will bide their time (usually 30-45 seconds), and then zoom past you, pull back in front of you, and hit the brakes to slow back down to cruising speed--the speed they were doing when you passed them in the first place.  Repeat ad naseum.
 
2020-07-04 9:36:19 PM  
1 vote:

wildlifer: Mr. Breeze: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.

Gene and Jude's hot dog stand in River Grove.
/Illinois' only bright spot


I lived there 16 years and stand by my original statement, lol.
 
2020-07-04 9:31:25 PM  
1 vote:

Artist: GRCooper: ariseatex: [66.media.tumblr.com image 417x750]

To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.

My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.

Grew up outside NYC. Learned how to drive in city traffic there. As well as being totally conditioned to being stuck in traffic jams, which do not bother me at all. Nope. One time stuck outside the GWB (George Washington Bridge), a "late breaking accident". OK, had enough time to sketch a few highway landscapes while waiting for things to clear up. Yep.


I should note that this was the beltway in the 80s. Bumper to bumper at 85-90. Merging on and off was an adventure.

I asked my instructor how much room I should leave between me and the car in front - his answer, swear on my life, was "as long as you can see his license plate you're good."

He *had* to be from Maryland.
 
2020-07-04 8:18:28 PM  
1 vote:

wildlifer: Mr. Breeze: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.

Gene and Jude's hot dog stand in River Grove.
/Illinois' only bright spot


So hot dogs in the deep dish, imterdasting
 
2020-07-04 8:09:47 PM  
1 vote:
Any list of bad drivers that doesn't include the State of Ohio is not a list to be taken seriously.
 
2020-07-04 7:47:01 PM  
1 vote:

Joshudan: Colorado definitely needs to be on the list. Aggressive yet poorly skilled drivers.


Those aren't Colorado drivers. Those are Texans posing as Coloradoans. If it's a giant truck or SUV speeding through traffic when there's 8 inches of snow, it's undoubtedly a Texan.  Flatlanders can't drive.
 
2020-07-04 7:24:59 PM  
1 vote:

The Goddamn Batman: No Maryland? What the hell?


exactly what I was thinking. The Washington and Baltimore Beltways, during non-Covid rush hours, are like a stock car race with lousy drivers
 
2020-07-04 7:23:56 PM  
1 vote:
Naturally Sacramento is in the top 10 of the cities. Why do drivers suck here? They're mostly from other states or they hail from San Francisco. They either drove on empty roads in Farknoggin, Oklahoma or took public transportation as Bay Aryans. Get behind the wheel in this crowded, outdated, dilapidated and disintegrating county and these people become a mobile division of chaos and trash. It's particularly tough on us pedestrians -- there's at least one killed every year where I must walk to get groceries. And I nearly decked some asshat from Nevada who tossed all of his fast-food trash out his window -- at which point I shoved his trash under his windshield wiper blade. He wanted to FIGHT! For being wrong. Trump's America is shiat.

/ I want out but not a dime to my name nor an ounce of marketable learning.
 
2020-07-04 7:13:20 PM  
1 vote:
Anyone not adding GA to the top of the shiat pile has never driven in GA.  We regularly destroy our interstates, speed limit signs are mere suggestions, and half an inch of precipitation causes pandemonium.

Anyone that gets on the interstates had better drive 75 no matter what and better do 50 on surface streets.  Otherwise, you are a road hazard and we will run you over.  Pedestrians are also a favored target.

And anyone that has moved here from another state just makes it worse, because they all insist on telling us how much better it is back home.  Well, go the hell back there.
 
2020-07-04 7:10:37 PM  
1 vote:
So, my day-job is at the DMV in Las Vegas, and lemme tellya, NV's place there is totally accurate.

'Round 2015, 1 in 8 drivers in this state weren't insured. We hand out suspensions for insurance lapses like candy. Tons of titles I process have a suspended reg at the other end (suspensions don't follow the cars, it's the combo of that person and that car).

And they all act surprised about it when we tell them it's suspended, after 2 letters and like,6 weeks or so of notice.

And our reinstatement sections sees huge numbers of interlocs because of all the DUIs.

Oh, and signals are optional out here, apparently,

It's a total shiatshow, I also warn new motorcyclists to get LED kits because damned if drivers pay attention to where your ass is.
 
2020-07-04 7:06:31 PM  
1 vote:
i thought pennsylvania and ohio were the worst until i finally drove in florida
 
2020-07-04 7:06:30 PM  
1 vote:

Mr. Breeze: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.


Gene and Jude's hot dog stand in River Grove.
/Illinois' only bright spot
 
2020-07-04 7:03:07 PM  
1 vote:
Worst drivers in Vegas...

1. Cabbies
2. Uber\lyft drivers
3. Tourists in rental cars
4. Tourists in their own cars
5. Henderson residents
6. Henderson PD
7. LVMPD
8. Anyone in a BMW or Mercedes
9. Construction workers
10. Everyone else

Honorable mention...that ancient, miniscule woman wearing the surgical mask and fogged-over cokebottle trifocals going 35 on the freeway.
 
2020-07-04 6:44:42 PM  
1 vote:

whitroth: I object! It's got to be drivers on the DC Beltway....


Maybe? I was driving a box truck on the DC beltway last year and everyone went out of their way to be courteous to me and let me in when I needed to get over. It was like I landed in bizarro world where everyone was nice. But generally I agree with your assessment.
 
2020-07-04 6:36:36 PM  
1 vote:
TomDooley: "I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it "

Yes you zipper merge at the point it is intended not before because that makes it worse, you slow the line and then more cars pass you on the right.  I have gotten into many disagreements when I was a passenger and they were stupid and merged way too early.
 
2020-07-04 6:26:04 PM  
1 vote:

badkneemm: i disagree with all the ihsults directed at Mass. drivers. We are agressive, angry, inconsiderate, and abrasive. But skilled. if you just assume that the dude in the left lane is going to cut across 3 lanes to make the exit, you'll be ok.
Now if we could get rid of all the yahoos from NH clogging up the roads...


Had a Statie do that on 495 right in front of me. No blinker either.

Theres apparently something in the rules that they have to drive 20mph faster than traffic in the left lane.
 
2020-07-04 6:08:20 PM  
1 vote:

twat_waffle: To be fair, I learned city driving in Toronto, which isn't as forgiving as Chicago.


Late one night I took a cab in Vancouver in the winter.

The guy was doing corners with the e-brake.
 
2020-07-04 6:05:55 PM  
1 vote:
Aar1012: bottled up in construction at night in a self labeled "Safety Corridor" only to find another cop facing the wrong way as we come out of the area.

Massachusetts: "Fines doubled in construction zone"

Couple of barrels on the side of the road and no painted lines.  FOR TEN FARKING MILES. And not a construction worker to be seen for months at a time.
 
2020-07-04 5:45:35 PM  
1 vote:

TomDooley: In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue. More lane hogs.


Meh.   Are you one of those dicks that speeds along to the end and then tries to force your way into the left lane at the last minute?  Yeah, you people suck.  :)
 
2020-07-04 5:44:14 PM  
1 vote:
My favorite California bad drivers joke:

Q:  How can you tell when Asians are moving into the neighborhood?
A:  The Mexicans start buying auto insurance.

/bonus racism
//ht Howard Stern
 
2020-07-04 5:29:42 PM  
1 vote:

TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.


Unlike Texas drivers who suck at driving everywhere they are.
 
2020-07-04 5:13:33 PM  
1 vote:
Florida
Stop at the top of onramps and wait for an opening
When heavy rain or fog prevent you from seeing more than a few feet on the freeway either continue on at full speed or come to a dead stop in the lane
There is no such thing as hydroplaning. Go ahead and take that corner at 40mph when  there is an inch of water on the road
Treat green lights as stop signs
Treat red lights and stop signs as green lights
 
2020-07-04 5:13:29 PM  
1 vote:

TheFoz: twat_waffle: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

That's because we've got to slalom through the expressways. You guys like to hang out in the passing lane. Seriously, every time I've driven from Beloit to Madison I've had to pass more people on the right than on the left.

Now that the interstate going out of Madison is three lanes it's so much smoother.

Sure, you're always gonna have that asshat driving 65 in the left lane but at least now it's easier to pass.

Drove from Madison to my parents house in SE WI this weekend and it was smooth sailing.  YMMV and all..


There's still construction starting south/east of I-43 and going north/west. It looks like they're widening that stretch of the expressway.
 
2020-07-04 5:11:37 PM  
1 vote:
In Tennessee the drivers are so dumb that they stop so far from the white line at traffic lights that they don't trigger the signal to change and hold up the left turn lane for ages.
 
2020-07-04 5:02:25 PM  
1 vote:
Mississippi?  I haven't driven there a ton but I've never seen them acting too stupid.

Florida drivers get extra space in Atlanta, which should tell you something.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2020-07-04 5:01:52 PM  
1 vote:
Busier roads have more deaths overall but fewer deaths per mile driven. So dense states are going to look better if you measure per mile. How about looking at death rates for city drivers in rural areas?
 
2020-07-04 4:59:17 PM  
1 vote:

Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.


There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.
 
2020-07-04 4:53:45 PM  
1 vote:
Florida I get. But no Georgia? Well, if Atlanta was a state it would be there. Probably at Number 1.
 
2020-07-04 4:30:44 PM  
1 vote:
Why isn't Utah on this list?
 
2020-07-04 4:25:45 PM  
1 vote:
cirby:
They need to throw out their metrics and find a new set.

Well you think the same thing about climate change, so you're not exactly a scientist, are you.
 
2020-07-04 3:34:43 PM  
1 vote:

optikeye: Based on metrics about being caught.

Ohio is not on the list.


No metrics on accidents?
TFA said worst not most criminal
 
2020-07-04 2:25:13 PM  
1 vote:
I drive on 285 every day, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2020-07-04 1:42:47 PM  
1 vote:
They must not have considered Washington DC and what the fark happened to New Jersey?
 
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