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2020-07-04 7:23:56 PM  
Naturally Sacramento is in the top 10 of the cities. Why do drivers suck here? They're mostly from other states or they hail from San Francisco. They either drove on empty roads in Farknoggin, Oklahoma or took public transportation as Bay Aryans. Get behind the wheel in this crowded, outdated, dilapidated and disintegrating county and these people become a mobile division of chaos and trash. It's particularly tough on us pedestrians -- there's at least one killed every year where I must walk to get groceries. And I nearly decked some asshat from Nevada who tossed all of his fast-food trash out his window -- at which point I shoved his trash under his windshield wiper blade. He wanted to FIGHT! For being wrong. Trump's America is shiat.

/ I want out but not a dime to my name nor an ounce of marketable learning.
 
2020-07-04 7:24:59 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: No Maryland? What the hell?


exactly what I was thinking. The Washington and Baltimore Beltways, during non-Covid rush hours, are like a stock car race with lousy drivers
 
2020-07-04 7:25:42 PM  
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2020-07-04 7:26:57 PM  

dbrunker: Why Oregon drivers are bad:

Two cars come to a stop sign.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
First diver politely waves the other through.
Second driver politely waves the other through.
Both go in frustration.
Crash.


LOL....I remember a commercial like that, but without the crash.   We have several 4 ways in my little burg.   It happens sometimes that someone isn't sure who got there first (which seems to be the custom here), so there is some waving involved, but not to the point of crashing, except when someone else decides they don't even need to stop at the stop sign....(almost had a wreck the other day because of this.  Waved the other guy through and preceded into the intersection.   Thankfully I was able to stop before I was t-boned.  The coming driver wasn't slowing down and i'm glad I noticed that).

Oregon suffers from a farkton of people who have moved here with their own driving habits,  Portland is just awful, the infrastructure has never been able to keep up.   Glad I don't live there.  Had to spend a month in Beaverton with my friend who had a kidney transplant.  She had to stay within an hour of OHSU and Beaverton was the closest we could get.   The above comment I made about drivers barreling in the empty lane then trying to force merge at the last farking minute came from hat experience.  Going from 405 to 26, the road goes from 2 lanes to one.   Everyday, there were several cars that raced to the front and then the drivers got pissy because no one was stopping traffic to let them in, stuck over on the shoulder that used to be the right lane.  These are people who did this deliberately, in a big hurry to get stuck at the end.
 
2020-07-04 7:34:40 PM  
Colorado definitely needs to be on the list. Aggressive yet poorly skilled drivers.
 
2020-07-04 7:44:04 PM  

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


Tom, I just have to stop you for a second and clear up one of your statements.
The worst STATE for drivers is Missouri, but Missouri DRIVERS are the best...and it's just for one simple reason.
We are bordered on the top and both sides by the most flat assed states. They have never used turn signal or brake lights in their life because everything in their state is flat...there are no hills so there is never any reason to slow down!
Hell, it doesn't even matter if you lose control and drive off the road in any of those states because a corn stalk won't go through a steel belted radial tire and there is nothing worth more than $40 within 20 miles of a hard road in those states anyway...
The problem you're encountering in Missouri is THOSE people come to OUR state to work, because their auto insurance is cheaper than driving in no blinker/no brake light states.  Their insurance men send them calendars every year with pictures of Missouri tourist landmarks in hope they will come here and learn to drive.
A Missouri driver can take a turn on 2 rims and 2 tires, light a joint with a Budweiser between his knees while he's driving a stick shift, kiss his sister and parallel park at 20 mph. In the snow.

Damn flatlanders over here trading paint Monday through Friday is what hurts our average.
 
2020-07-04 7:47:01 PM  

Joshudan: Colorado definitely needs to be on the list. Aggressive yet poorly skilled drivers.


Those aren't Colorado drivers. Those are Texans posing as Coloradoans. If it's a giant truck or SUV speeding through traffic when there's 8 inches of snow, it's undoubtedly a Texan.  Flatlanders can't drive.
 
2020-07-04 7:50:33 PM  

CrazyCurt: Naturally Sacramento is in the top 10 of the cities. Why do drivers suck here? They're mostly from other states or they hail from San Francisco. They either drove on empty roads in Farknoggin, Oklahoma or took public transportation as Bay Aryans. Get behind the wheel in this crowded, outdated, dilapidated and disintegrating county and these people become a mobile division of chaos and trash. It's particularly tough on us pedestrians -- there's at least one killed every year where I must walk to get groceries. And I nearly decked some asshat from Nevada who tossed all of his fast-food trash out his window -- at which point I shoved his trash under his windshield wiper blade. He wanted to FIGHT! For being wrong. Trump's America is shiat.

/ I want out but not a dime to my name nor an ounce of marketable learning.


Stockton like typing detected
 
2020-07-04 8:09:06 PM  
SC people drive like lunatics. If there's so much as a hint of winter slipperiness, they literally fly off the roads. No, don't slow down at all, can't do that. It's also the only state I've lived in where it was not uncommon for people to decide to take an exit on the interstate, change their minds after exciting, and instead of just continuing to take the exit and getting back on on the other side, they'd jerk their car back onto the freeway.
 
2020-07-04 8:09:47 PM  
Any list of bad drivers that doesn't include the State of Ohio is not a list to be taken seriously.
 
2020-07-04 8:18:28 PM  

wildlifer: Mr. Breeze: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.

Gene and Jude's hot dog stand in River Grove.
/Illinois' only bright spot


So hot dogs in the deep dish, imterdasting
 
2020-07-04 8:20:41 PM  

ariseatex: [66.media.tumblr.com image 417x750]

To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.


My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.
 
2020-07-04 8:36:08 PM  

GRCooper: ariseatex: [66.media.tumblr.com image 417x750]

To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.

My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.


Grew up outside NYC. Learned how to drive in city traffic there. As well as being totally conditioned to being stuck in traffic jams, which do not bother me at all. Nope. One time stuck outside the GWB (George Washington Bridge), a "late breaking accident". OK, had enough time to sketch a few highway landscapes while waiting for things to clear up. Yep.
 
2020-07-04 8:43:18 PM  
They clearly did not factor in the "asshole scale," which is why Ohio is not at the top of the list.
 
2020-07-04 8:58:29 PM  
Military brat and then career Navy - in my life I have travelled to 75 countries and all 50 states (admit the numbers are a bit fudged because some of the places no longer exist and some places I went to didn't exist yet). Anyway, my birth-state of Illinois, where we lived for 10 yrs to care for my mother and some other elderly relatives, remains the only place where I was in traffic accidents. In my life I have driven on both sides of the road, taken rotaries clockwise and counter-, and never have I ever hit anything nor any one. Yet, in Rockford, IL I was rear ended 4 (count'em -4) times, and each time I was not moving: Twice I was parked  in lots and the other two times I was stopped at a red light. All four times in daylight and summer weather.

(The last time I was struck by a 16 year old who was with her legally blind grandfather, who was yet in possession of a valid driving license, so he was the legal driver accompanying her). She tried to park in a handicapped spot, the kind with diagonal lines on each side giving an additional 6' of space on either side, which made the spot an estimated minimum of 24' wide - and she missed. Her first words were, "I have trouble parking." She stove in my driver's side quarter-panel wheel well. Another removed my driver's side mirror trying to back out of a parking lot stall. The other two rear-ended me at red-lights, one in front of the Public Safety Building and the other in front of  the Secretary of State's Office (where driving tests are held and licenses issued). The last one, with her husband and 3 children, all unbuckled and unsecured, the children standing in the rear seat - I saw them in my mirror when they hit tumble into the foot wells between the seats.

I learned why, after living in California for 30 years I couldn't remember seeing "collision centers" but in Illinois they are rather thick on the ground, seeming to be in about every-other block. My late sister-in-law took her Ed.D. in Driving Education and was a state examiner of drivers' ed. teachers, they getting her approval to teach the subject in both classroom and behind wheel in schools; she scared the bejesus outta Hubby and me when we were passengers since she always waited until the last possible second to brake. (Once Hubby, dozing in the back seat, was nearly concussed when his head banged into the head rest behind the passenger seat where I sat!). Between her and Hubby, that I am alive is amazing.

The one thing I liked about Illinois Rules of the Road is that at intersections drivers going in opposing directions can turn into the same direction of traffic because they are required to stay in their lanes of travel, whereas in CA drivers may turn into the first two lanes.
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In IL the blue & yellow cars can turn at the same time, or the black and red, but in CA either car can turn into either of the two lanes, so one must yield, but CA law is a bit vague if there is no active arrow. In CA you don't have to keep your lane when turning but in IL you do. In this,
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I prefer Illinois. I went to HS there and received my 1st license from IL, but any Californian who moves there is in for a shock when making a lazy (not tight) turn and is hit; if they didn't keep their lane, they'll pay. If they have green lights& arrows, all four cars shown can turn at the same time, (Seems to confuse Cheeseheads, too, as much as their pass-on-the-right lanes do us Flatlanders at first.)

And I'm really thankful WI finally abolished that damn "Can't Pass No Tractors, Nope, Not Ever, Not You, Can't Do!" Law. I was behind one up by our cottage for what felt like 3 days, and because of that law, Farmer Oblivious won't use hand signals when turning left from the highway into the barnyard.

What would be nice is if we had a Federal Standard Rules of the Road so we don't die just because we don't know different rules in different states.

BTW: for all those who think any driver in CA who has 5 or more vehicles behind them must pull off into a lay-by to let them pass? That rule is only in mountains and hills; in flatland, if you are behind someone obeying the speed limit (55 mph on non-freeways) on a flat highway, then you shoulda gotten up earlier. Time to practice some Driving Zen.
 
2020-07-04 9:26:10 PM  
I was going to say that I have rarely seen anyone pulled over in the FL Panhandle no matter how dangerously they drive.  Sunday morning and the streets are literally lined with abandoned damaged cars.
 
2020-07-04 9:29:00 PM  
Whatever state, whatever city, it's the Mercedes drivers. Don't know how to merge, don't know how to handle a 4-way stop, don't even know how to use their turn signals.
 
2020-07-04 9:31:25 PM  

Artist: GRCooper: ariseatex: [66.media.tumblr.com image 417x750]

To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.

My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.

Grew up outside NYC. Learned how to drive in city traffic there. As well as being totally conditioned to being stuck in traffic jams, which do not bother me at all. Nope. One time stuck outside the GWB (George Washington Bridge), a "late breaking accident". OK, had enough time to sketch a few highway landscapes while waiting for things to clear up. Yep.


I should note that this was the beltway in the 80s. Bumper to bumper at 85-90. Merging on and off was an adventure.

I asked my instructor how much room I should leave between me and the car in front - his answer, swear on my life, was "as long as you can see his license plate you're good."

He *had* to be from Maryland.
 
2020-07-04 9:36:19 PM  

wildlifer: Mr. Breeze: Wendigogo: TheFoz: Illinois drivers seem to drive just fine in their own state but as soon as they come up to WI it's a shiatshow on wheels.

/my lawn & state, get off it

I have to disagree. Illinois drivers suck EVERYWHERE. Barely a day goes by when some asshat(s) don't know or care that the far left lane is for passing. Not to mention the almost daily accident on I-80 that turns a normally reasonable commute to rubbernecking hell. We just can't have nice things here.

There's nothing nice about Illinois. Nothing.

Gene and Jude's hot dog stand in River Grove.
/Illinois' only bright spot


I lived there 16 years and stand by my original statement, lol.
 
2020-07-04 9:56:03 PM  
Ohio drivers are pretty bad.  They don't seem to understand traffic flow, and prefer everyone to drive at the slow speed they're doing in the fast lane.

Michigan drivers are ok, but they seem bad to most.  Problem is, by law, all cars with a Michigan plate do not come with a gas and break pedal, instead they get a light switch.  Light goes green, flip on the switch and hold on.

However, the worst drivers in American are Canadians.  More specifically, Canadians from the province of Ontario.  You cannot pass one of these SOBs on the highway, else they will bide their time (usually 30-45 seconds), and then zoom past you, pull back in front of you, and hit the brakes to slow back down to cruising speed--the speed they were doing when you passed them in the first place.  Repeat ad naseum.
 
2020-07-04 10:12:49 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: No Maryland? What the hell?


My thoughts exactly.
 
2020-07-04 11:09:35 PM  
Massachusetts is like China, driving-wise. Sure, there are rules and people kind of use them. But if there's enough room to get a fraction of an inch of my bumper into your lane, I'm pretty sure I'm good to go.

Conversely, If you only have two car lengths of space to get in front of me, I need to speed up so you don't think you can change lanes.

Even if I'm speeding up from 2 mph to 6 mph just to slow back down to 2 mph.
 
Al!
2020-07-04 11:13:29 PM  
Lists ranking drivers written by people who have never driven outside their home regions are useless, and even beyond that, their metrics are nearly useless.

As someone who has driven in the majority of the country: Massachusetts is the worst place to drive if you're not from there.  Massachusetts drivers outside of MA are horrible and should be ashamed of themselves.  PA drivers outside of PA might be the worst in the nation.  NYC drivers act like they own the road and do not give a fark what you think, but the driving is quite harmless despite the overwhelming aggressiveness.  Chicago and DC get bad raps, but they're not too bad overall.  It's been 13 years, but the best place to drive I've ever been was Detroit.  You had the entire road to yourself, all day everyday.  We even accidentally drove the wrong way up a one way 3 lane at about noon the first day in town, and no one even saw us.
 
2020-07-04 11:22:00 PM  
Missouri "drivers" are horrible..Partly because they have NO DRIVERS ED REQUIREMENT!
With that, there is no real practical experience, so people just do their own damn things..
Get a highway full of people just doing their own thing and it's chaos..Some drivers are super
aggressive, others are too pokey, it's a mess...All you have to do is look around you in traffic and
see that the people with Missouri plates often also have the most bashed up cars..
 
2020-07-04 11:22:42 PM  

mikaloyd: Ever notice how the default opinion of whiny dorks worldwide is "Practically everybody except me is a terrible driver"


Everybody except me is a terrible driver.

(signed)
handsome boy model
Life Member,
Whiny Dorks International
 
2020-07-05 12:49:24 AM  

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2020-07-05 6:50:30 AM  

GRCooper: ariseatex: [66.media.tumblr.com image 417x750]

To give you an idea of what Maryland driving is like, one day I was going 85 in the left lane on the Maryland side of the Beltway.  (Posted speed limit 55).  A cop car passed me on the right.  No sirens, not following anyone, I was just going too slow for him.

My high school driving class literally took me onto the beltway.

I have feared nothing since.


Come and drive 128 in the rain at rush hour.
The lane markings disappear (not that the drivers even look at them anyway)
Speed remains either 55+ or a dead stop...it alternates. Be on your toes! (and your brakes)
Oh, and the massive truck in front of you -- his brake lights may or may not work.
 
2020-07-05 6:54:20 AM  

oldtaku: Whatever state, whatever city, it's the MercedesAudi drivers. Don't know how to merge, don't know how to handle a 4-way stop, don't even know how to use their turn signals.


Mercedes are'nt *that* bad. It's the Audis around here.  Also SAABs, but they're mostly gone now. Must have replaced them with Audis.

Or those ridiculous G-Wagens.  The ones that say "I spent seven times your annual salary on this heap of bolts that will never see a dirt road"
 
2020-07-05 12:26:15 PM  

TomDooley: Having driven across 40 of the 50 states during my lifetime I will have to say the worst drivers are in Ohio, Missouri and Oregon.  Once in Dayton, OH I was cruising along at 80 and came across some idiot in the fast lane doing 50.  There was no other traffic around.

In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue.  More lane hogs.

Best states are California, Arizona and Texas.  In Texas "Drive friendly the Texas way" means pull into the breakdown lane and let the person behind you pass.  Just don't speed through the tiny towns.


Californians are the best because we can text, smoke a bowl, eat sushi with chopsticks, and exit left from the right lane while tailgating you.
 
2020-07-05 12:32:17 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: TomDooley: In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue. More lane hogs.

Meh.   Are you one of those dicks that speeds along to the end and then tries to force your way into the left lane at the last minute?  Yeah, you people suck.  :)


Are you one of those people that think it's your mission to stop them? You suck worse.
 
2020-07-05 1:58:21 PM  

ThighsofGlory: Dewey Fidalgo: TomDooley: In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue. More lane hogs.

Meh.   Are you one of those dicks that speeds along to the end and then tries to force your way into the left lane at the last minute?  Yeah, you people suck.  :)

Are you one of those people that think it's your mission to stop them? You suck worse.


It isn't my "mission", but I have no pity for them when they find themselves on the shoulder because they think that they can zip through the now empty lane and then think that everyone else will stop so they can sneak in.   It's not my job to cater to their feeling of specialness or WTF ever it is.   Get in line like everyone else.   I also see it when a lane is closed for road work, every farking time there is some nimrod who tries to pull that stunt.   But yeah, I'll not stop all the traffic behind me for the ones trying to jump the line.   Because that is what they are doing.
 
2020-07-05 2:07:33 PM  
 I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.
 
2020-07-05 2:24:23 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: ThighsofGlory: Dewey Fidalgo: TomDooley: In Missouri they were shutting down the right lane and everyone was parked in the left lane.  I took advantage of the empty lane and zipper merged at it's end and the car behind me got all pissy about it.  This is after miles of miles of signs which state "merging traffic?  Use both lanes and zipper merge."  Apparently I was the only one able to read.  Merging excessively early (like five miles early) seems to be exclusively a Midwestern thing.

Oregon same issue. More lane hogs.

Meh.   Are you one of those dicks that speeds along to the end and then tries to force your way into the left lane at the last minute?  Yeah, you people suck.  :)

Are you one of those people that think it's your mission to stop them? You suck worse.

It isn't my "mission", but I have no pity for them when they find themselves on the shoulder because they think that they can zip through the now empty lane and then think that everyone else will stop so they can sneak in.   It's not my job to cater to their feeling of specialness or WTF ever it is.   Get in line like everyone else.   I also see it when a lane is closed for road work, every farking time there is some nimrod who tries to pull that stunt.   But yeah, I'll not stop all the traffic behind me for the ones trying to jump the line.   Because that is what they are doing.


Seems to me that the answer is to identify the local customs, and try to follow them (or at least allow for them.)  Everyone is zipper merging?  Go for it!  Everyone has already gotten in line 5 miles back, and you're suddenly in an empty lane?  Look for a hole to merge into, and don't wait until the last 20 feet.

Driving at night in Oregon with your lights off being just one notable exception of a local custom you should NOT follow.  We had yet another one make the news just last night; 5 people sent to the hospital.
 
2020-07-05 2:33:40 PM  

Thats My Name too!: Everyone has already gotten in line 5 miles back, and you're suddenly in an empty lane?


Five miles back?    Somebody is being hyperbolic.   To say the least.

And yeah, it should be a farking clue when you see (after ignoring the merge signs apparently), that everyone else has moved to the other lane, but yours is empty.
 
2020-07-05 3:59:52 PM  

Thats My Name too!: Seems to me that the answer is to identify the local customs, and try to follow them (or at least allow for them.)  Everyone is zipper merging?  Go for it!  Everyone has already gotten in line 5 miles back, and you're suddenly in an empty lane?  Look for a hole to merge into, and don't wait until the last 20 feet.


Yeah, about that. The people who are zippering at the last minute are doing it correctly. Everyone else are the ones farking up.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/5​5​4936/why-jerk-drivers-who-merge-last-m​inute-are-actually-more-efficient

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/traffi​c​-lane-zipper-merge.htm


Why the Zipper Merge is faster
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2020-07-05 3:59:56 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.


It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.
 
2020-07-05 4:05:17 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.


That is how you are supposed to merge. Duh.
 
2020-07-05 4:13:01 PM  

Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.

It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.


It's so weird, ODOT puts those merge signs , a couple of them even, quite a long ways before the right lane ends, on an overpass. I see a merge sign, I take ODOT at their word and start moving into the correct lane.
 
2020-07-05 4:21:29 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.

It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.

It's so weird, ODOT puts those merge signs , a couple of them even, quite a long ways before the right lane ends, on an overpass. I see a merge sign, I take ODOT at their word and start moving into the correct lane.


Yes they alert you that the right lane will end so you're prepared to merge and not just full speed it onto the shoulder or into another car.  But the merge point is where the lane ends.
 
2020-07-05 4:29:53 PM  

Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.

It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.

It's so weird, ODOT puts those merge signs , a couple of them even, quite a long ways before the right lane ends, on an overpass. I see a merge sign, I take ODOT at their word and start moving into the correct lane.

Yes they alert you that the right lane will end so you're prepared to merge and not just full speed it onto the shoulder or into another car.  But the merge point is where the lane ends.


"The right lane is the one ending," said Oregon State Police Lt. Gregg Hastings. The law requires a driver entering from a merging lane to yield the right of way, not act as if drivers already in that lane should "get out of the way."

https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/​2​011/04/getting_pushy_in_an_oregon_cit.​html
 
2020-07-05 4:38:08 PM  

Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.

It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.

It's so weird, ODOT puts those merge signs , a couple of them even, quite a long ways before the right lane ends, on an overpass. I see a merge sign, I take ODOT at their word and start moving into the correct lane.

Yes they alert you that the right lane will end so you're prepared to merge and not just full speed it onto the shoulder or into another car.  But the merge point is where the lane ends.

"The right lane is the one ending," said Oregon State Police Lt. Gregg Hastings. The law requires a driver entering from a merging lane to yield the right of way, not act as if drivers already in that lane should "get out of the way."

https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2​011/04/getting_pushy_in_an_oregon_cit.​html



Yes that applies wherever you merge.  But on second thought I agree...merge early and leave the other lane open.  Tell your friends.
 
2020-07-05 4:46:47 PM  

Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: Abox: Dewey Fidalgo: I am not talking about people just to merge responsibly.  But people who drive up to the very last inch of road and THEN try to merge.

It's called the merge point and it's where you're supposed to merge.

It's so weird, ODOT puts those merge signs , a couple of them even, quite a long ways before the right lane ends, on an overpass. I see a merge sign, I take ODOT at their word and start moving into the correct lane.

Yes they alert you that the right lane will end so you're prepared to merge and not just full speed it onto the shoulder or into another car.  But the merge point is where the lane ends.

"The right lane is the one ending," said Oregon State Police Lt. Gregg Hastings. The law requires a driver entering from a merging lane to yield the right of way, not act as if drivers already in that lane should "get out of the way."

https://www.oregonlive.com/commuting/2​011/04/getting_pushy_in_an_oregon_cit.​html


Yes that applies wherever you merge.  But on second thought I agree...merge early and leave the other lane open.  Tell your friends.


My friends already know.  :)
 
2020-07-05 6:52:00 PM  
If you claim you are zipper merging, but you are passing cars in the lane you are going to merge into, you're a liar. If you reaaaaaally want to be this champion of the zipper merge, you'll stay in the disappearing lane while matching the speed of the traffic in the other lane.

But you don't, do you?
 
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