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2020-07-04 1:42:03 PM  
39 votes:
Huh.  So all along, Trump was right.  A border wall is going to be built, and Mexico will pay for it.

It won't be facing the way he told us, though.
 
2020-07-04 2:24:08 PM  
25 votes:
It's amazing how, when American conservatives whine about undocumented migration, the idea of punishing employers for hiring undocumented workers never comes up.

FOX has programmed its zombies well.
 
2020-07-04 1:50:21 PM  
20 votes:

ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"


To Americans coming into Mexico?

Yes.

But you aren't using any sort of mechanical precision with your words and meaning, are you.

Just some sort of vague implication of associated concepts that have no actual relationship.

But good work on your zing. You are preaching to your choir and further cementing the fact that those who disagree with you are right to do so because your conflation of two non-related events are somehow the same thing.

Keep it up.
 
2020-07-04 2:36:51 PM  
15 votes:
2016 - Trump promises travel bans 'until [we] can figure out what's going on.'
2020 - The world bans American travel.

/Seriously, WHO could have seen this coming
 
2020-07-04 2:33:06 PM  
15 votes:
We're not sending Mexico our best.  We're sending people with lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with them.  They're bringing coronavirus.  They're covidiots.  They're anti-vaxxers.  And some, I assume, are good people.
 
2020-07-04 1:45:05 PM  
14 votes:
In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"
 
2020-07-04 1:56:35 PM  
12 votes:

Cache: Hans, are we the baddies third world country?


Realistically, in 2020? Yes to both.
 
2020-07-04 1:51:03 PM  
10 votes:

ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"


Border closing is something that should be saved for national emergencies.  Capitalist pigs in the neighboring country preferring to hire and grotesquely underpay people with guest worker documentation or no documentation is not a national emergency.
 
2020-07-04 1:43:10 PM  
9 votes:
We don't need no steenking plague rat Americanos.
 
2020-07-04 2:53:46 PM  
8 votes:

WalkingSedgwick: It's amazing how, when American conservatives whine about undocumented migration, the idea of punishing employers for hiring undocumented workers never comes up.

FOX has programmed its zombies well.


This. Conservative ideology is one of the most broken things I've ever seen. It's shocking how brainwashed these folks are. Like this whole, "the slave owners were Democrat's thing" treating them as if the ideologies of the parties hasn't changed in over a century.

If they were Democrats, why aren't you a Democrat now, since you're fighting for all these Democrat statues and flying the flag of Democrats."
 
2020-07-04 4:06:21 PM  
5 votes:

rebelyell2006: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.

Kinda hypocritical that a Warsaw Pact refugee is denouncing people who are fleeing Central America.


Inherent bias (as well as racism and general bigotry) knows no borders.

During the historical waves of immigration of the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, etc each group has complained about, looked down upon, and attacked the next.  Protection from this is why the gangs formed.

Why would now be any different?
 
2020-07-04 5:26:13 PM  
4 votes:
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2020-07-04 4:03:23 PM  
4 votes:

ColonelCathcart: rebelyell2006: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.

Kinda hypocritical that a Warsaw Pact refugee is denouncing people who are fleeing Central America.

I'm am not a refugee, but I know many of those of whom you speak. They worked for everything they got, follow the law...unlike people who retroactively try to claim asylum after they are caught or spend decades here and don't adjust their status.


Mostly because they were the "good" type of refugees, like the Cubans.  Central American refugees are not, because they represent failures of CIA and DEA activities in Central America.  So the government bends over backwards to help the "good" refugees, and tells the rest to fark off.  No aid, no translators, no counselors to help navigate refugee laws or to help with submitting paperwork.
 
2020-07-04 3:04:02 PM  
4 votes:

ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.


yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.
 
2020-07-04 2:49:07 PM  
4 votes:

ColonelCathcart: FleshMonkey: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

To Americans coming into Mexico?

Yes.

But you aren't using any sort of mechanical precision with your words and meaning, are you.

Just some sort of vague implication of associated concepts that have no actual relationship.

But good work on your zing. You are preaching to your choir and further cementing the fact that those who disagree with you are right to do so because your conflation of two non-related events are somehow the same thing.

Keep it up.

So Illegals can still come here?


no moreso than before.  Why do you think that's changed?

I mean I'm still waiting on your glorious wall to fix your income inequality and your immigration system.
 
2020-07-04 2:08:44 PM  
4 votes:

ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"


This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".
 
2020-07-04 1:47:51 PM  
4 votes:
Hans, are we the baddies third world country?
 
2020-07-04 1:47:32 PM  
4 votes:

toraque: Huh.  So all along, Trump was right.  A border wall is going to be built, and Mexico will pay for it.

It won't be facing the way he told us, though.


Came here to say this.

/How many fingers are left on his monkey's paw?
 
2020-07-04 3:39:57 PM  
3 votes:

ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?


My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.
 
2020-07-04 2:50:16 PM  
3 votes:

gar1013: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".


"normal" meaning allowing tourists from the US to Mexican resorts and tourist destinations?
 
2020-07-04 2:46:16 PM  
3 votes:

johnny_vegas: Can't  blame Mexico for doing what's best for itself but this will help the US more than Mexico probably


As far as my understanding, migrant workers generally send a significant portion of their income back to family in their home countries.

Mexico is happy to have the extra income, however they no longer want to risk diseased people (including tourists) crossing south.

/Based on WWZ logic, I have to wonder how Cuba is doing.
 
2020-07-04 2:40:37 PM  
3 votes:

ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"


yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?
 
2020-07-04 1:46:49 PM  
3 votes:
Can't  blame Mexico for doing what's best for itself but this will help the US more than Mexico probably
 
2020-07-04 6:11:47 PM  
2 votes:

byteme4321: [Fark user image 425x312]


I am guessing it would have been wise not to strip-mine their fisheries and force them to turn pirates. Especially on the major shipping routes for petroleum and Chinese manufactures.
 
2020-07-04 4:11:04 PM  
2 votes:
Colonel Sh*thead used to be smart.  What happened, did the brain-eating amoeba (which apparently doesn't follow the "don't shiat where you eat" guidance) that got sh*ttybopper get this one too?
 
2020-07-04 4:00:08 PM  
2 votes:

ColonelCathcart: links136: gar1013: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".

Okay country that invaded Iraq, put the sub prime mortgages fraud on the world and is now leading the world in zoonotic virus cases.

Right, let's punish Mexico for not revolving around us like good spics.

Or maybe not allowing their own citizens to engage in mass human and drug trafficking?


Fine. Start arresting executives of companies that pay for smuggled people and seizing those facilities used in their exploitation.
 
2020-07-04 3:43:37 PM  
2 votes:

the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.


Kinda hypocritical that a Warsaw Pact refugee is denouncing people who are fleeing Central America.
 
2020-07-04 2:42:12 PM  
2 votes:

the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?


Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.
 
2020-07-04 1:52:04 PM  
2 votes:

FleshMonkey: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

To Americans coming into Mexico?

Yes.

But you aren't using any sort of mechanical precision with your words and meaning, are you.

Just some sort of vague implication of associated concepts that have no actual relationship.

But good work on your zing. You are preaching to your choir and further cementing the fact that those who disagree with you are right to do so because your conflation of two non-related events are somehow the same thing.

Keep it up.


So Illegals can still come here?
 
2020-07-04 1:40:49 PM  
2 votes:
😆😆😆😆😆😆
 
2020-07-04 11:32:33 PM  
1 vote:

bobbyjoebobby: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.

People should be welcomed to come here, legally, to work.

Refugees should also be welcomed.

We just need a good system that catches the bad actors. No one wants to talk about that.

Everytime a conservative says lets end illegal immigration a liberal asks why they hate brown people. Every time a conservative says lets make sure gang members don't come over with the refugees a liberal asks why they hate brown people.

Someone isn't willing to have an adult conversation.


why is it that every time immigration reform has been introduced in Congress in the past 20+ years, Republicans only ever want to talk about funnelling more money into ICE, Border Patrol, and now a useless but very expensive wall?

Name a Republican Senate Majority or Minority leader or Speaker or the House who has pushed for increasing immigration court funding to get more courts and translators, simplifying the application process, expediting the qualification process, etc.

All we get is "Build the Wall", "they're rapists and murderers,etc", "they're stealing jobs from 'Real Mericans'c, etc, etc, etc

My favorite excuse is "There's not enough space".  Because the population density of the country is 92.9 people per sq mile (i.e. each man, woman, and child could have their own 300,000 sq ft McMansion)

I think there's been no lack of people on "the left" who have been more than happy to have a realistic "adult" discussion about what should happen...and then the Republicans elect people like Arpaio, King, Nunez, and Trump.

"Sanctuary cities" are a stop-gap to try to at least force an adult conversation at the state level.  But the majority of Republicans don't want to hear it.

Republicans have been blaming brown people for their own problems since it was out of fashion to blame black people.

If you need proof I can provide decades of Fox News, Washington Examiner, OANN, InfoWars, Rush Limbaugh, et al. clips as evidence.
 
2020-07-04 9:29:03 PM  
1 vote:

ColonelCathcart: BolloxReader: ColonelCathcart: links136: gar1013: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".

Okay country that invaded Iraq, put the sub prime mortgages fraud on the world and is now leading the world in zoonotic virus cases.

Right, let's punish Mexico for not revolving around us like good spics.

Or maybe not allowing their own citizens to engage in mass human and drug trafficking?

Fine. Start arresting executives of companies that pay for smuggled people and seizing those facilities used in their exploitation.

I agree. Employers should be severely punished for hiring illegals and bailouts should go to main street only.

Punish employers severely and you solve illegal immigration.


I don't know why we don't asset forfeiture a company
 
2020-07-04 9:13:44 PM  
1 vote:

ColonelCathcart: Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.


And?
Their pure Capitalist. AKA jerks.
Mexico works, for the people with money and or power. They don't care about the drug dealers and people working across the river. Those problems are ours.  Don't act like the United States isn't got it's own jerks too.
 
2020-07-04 8:40:46 PM  
1 vote:

the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.


People should be welcomed to come here, legally, to work.

Refugees should also be welcomed.

We just need a good system that catches the bad actors. No one wants to talk about that.

Everytime a conservative says lets end illegal immigration a liberal asks why they hate brown people. Every time a conservative says lets make sure gang members don't come over with the refugees a liberal asks why they hate brown people.

Someone isn't willing to have an adult conversation.
 
2020-07-04 7:54:49 PM  
1 vote:

lack of warmth: Professor Science: We're not sending Mexico our best.  We're sending people with lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with them.  They're bringing coronavirus.  They're covidiots.  They're anti-vaxxers.  And some, I assume, are good people.

Well sure, why would our best would want to leave...oh...yeah......how are we keeping the best from leaving?


By getting ourselves banned from international travel. It's that 5d chess biting us in the ass again.
 
2020-07-04 6:19:30 PM  
1 vote:

ColonelCathcart: FleshMonkey: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

To Americans coming into Mexico?

Yes.

But you aren't using any sort of mechanical precision with your words and meaning, are you.

Just some sort of vague implication of associated concepts that have no actual relationship.

But good work on your zing. You are preaching to your choir and further cementing the fact that those who disagree with you are right to do so because your conflation of two non-related events are somehow the same thing.

Keep it up.

So Illegals can still come here?


Why do you think the Repugs were stealing children and teenagers? They were hoping to start a slave breeding programme, like the Australian and New Zealand sheep ranches only with "boat children" from across the Rio Grande. Didn't work out as well as it sounded in their thick bone heads or while singing in the showers the illegals built for them.
 
2020-07-04 6:14:39 PM  
1 vote:

the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?


Remittances. $65 billlion a year from the kids in the USA. Why would Mexico complain? These guys were building their Mothers houses after building yours.
 
2020-07-04 6:10:30 PM  
1 vote:

iron de havilland: *Scheisskopf


Corrections. Me likey.
 
2020-07-04 6:09:53 PM  
1 vote:
I guess may Philip K. Dick was kinda wrong about some things. Instead of building a Robot Lincoln to Free the Servo Slaves, you might get Robot Marx or Robot Santa Anna.

Instead of importing "Guest Worker" slaves to service your needs doing all the menial and dirty jobs por nada, you may have to build robot servos or unpaid monkey butlers to do your dirty work. Forget Israel having all their dirty work done by the people from the Annex beyond the wall. The world will go its own way and the Englightened People Under the Trump Dome will have their sex dolls and robot maids and robot dogs, etc.

Until the Revolt of the Robots, of course, when all their senile old asses will be the first up against the Wall. If their Children and Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren don't eat them first.

I wonder if we can scape the Amero and the Great Highway from Mexico City to Churchill Falls and build a nice over pass for the people in between to live under, perhaps in a rusting van, down by the river, social isolating as best they can.

Whatever the Future brings it will be a) very surprising and b) weirdly familiar. If you are lucky, it will not be c) dystopian in a Trumpian half-wit cracker way.
 
2020-07-04 5:49:27 PM  
1 vote:
*Scheisskopf
 
2020-07-04 5:49:02 PM  
1 vote:

The Envoy: Colonel Sh*thead used to be smart.


Ex-Lieutenant Scheisskoppf is a different Catch-22 character, altogether.
 
2020-07-04 5:16:29 PM  
1 vote:
Whenever there is a relationship between a rich guy and a poor guy, it always benefits the poor guy the most, of course.
That's why the rich guy is rich.
Wait.................what?
 
2020-07-04 5:05:53 PM  
1 vote:

Professor Science: We're not sending Mexico our best.  We're sending people with lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with them.  They're bringing coronavirus.  They're covidiots.  They're anti-vaxxers.  And some, I assume, are good people.


Well sure, why would our best would want to leave...oh...yeah......how are we keeping the best from leaving?
 
2020-07-04 4:17:56 PM  
1 vote:

the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.

Actually, I do think we should give lots of working visas - especially jobs for which Americans refuse to do the work (see: Alabama where pay was significantly above minimum wage and 90% of Americans of all colors didn't show up after day 1).

You're right, I'm far less concerned with people who come on their own to cross the border. The ones (read: non-Mexicans) who pay $10,000 to a coyote who likely bribes local officials to leave him and his flock alone are my concern. Mexico has strict deportation laws if you don't pay your bribe or stop in México. It's actually kind of funny to me that people ignore that aspect.

Again, Mexico has many sins that it needs to address before I show any sympathy for this stunt that only affects a small number of tourists and likely mostly affect the religious nuts from AZ who cross the border on land.

US tourism is very big business in Mexico.  Especially the high-end resorts.

So your concern is not with Mexico but streamlining the US Immigration system, adding more immigration courts and expanding entry permits.  Sounds like a pretty liberal agenda.

Do you tend to vote for people who have been pushing this agenda (i.e. most SouthWestern Democrats) and against those who are against it (most Republicans including the current and last 3 Republican Presidents)?


I voted for Obama twice. Couldn't vote for Clinton as I moved right before the election and stupidly didn't have my absentee ballot.

I'm voting Biden, but may vote republican in my local elections as the taxes here are absolutely farking nuts.
 
2020-07-04 4:16:02 PM  
1 vote:

BolloxReader: ColonelCathcart: links136: gar1013: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".

Okay country that invaded Iraq, put the sub prime mortgages fraud on the world and is now leading the world in zoonotic virus cases.

Right, let's punish Mexico for not revolving around us like good spics.

Or maybe not allowing their own citizens to engage in mass human and drug trafficking?

Fine. Start arresting executives of companies that pay for smuggled people and seizing those facilities used in their exploitation.


I agree. Employers should be severely punished for hiring illegals and bailouts should go to main street only.

Punish employers severely and you solve illegal immigration.
 
2020-07-04 4:14:57 PM  
1 vote:

ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.

Actually, I do think we should give lots of working visas - especially jobs for which Americans refuse to do the work (see: Alabama where pay was significantly above minimum wage and 90% of Americans of all colors didn't show up after day 1).

You're right, I'm far less concerned with people who come on their own to cross the border. The ones (read: non-Mexicans) who pay $10,000 to a coyote who likely bribes local officials to leave him and his flock alone are my concern. Mexico has strict deportation laws if you don't pay your bribe or stop in México. It's actually kind of funny to me that people ignore that aspect.

Again, Mexico has many sins that it needs to address before I show any sympathy for this stunt that only affects a small number of tourists and likely mostly affect the religious nuts from AZ who cross the border on land.


US tourism is very big business in Mexico.  Especially the high-end resorts.

So your concern is not with Mexico but streamlining the US Immigration system, adding more immigration courts and expanding entry permits.  Sounds like a pretty liberal agenda.

Do you tend to vote for people who have been pushing this agenda (i.e. most SouthWestern Democrats) and against those who are against it (most Republicans including the current and last 3 Republican Presidents)?
 
2020-07-04 3:51:32 PM  
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gar1013: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

This.

No farking aid to them, and a tax on wire transfers to them if they let things return to "normal".


I'm not aware of Mexico claiming go have stopped illegal crossings.
 
2020-07-04 3:44:40 PM  
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the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: the voice of raisin: ColonelCathcart: In other news, "México could have closed its border anytime it wanted"

yep.  and now it has a reason to.

Mexico really has no issue with migrant workers going to the US.  Why should it have cared before the US became a plague-infested no-man's land?

Because thousands of people (including children) are hurt by human traffickers? The drugs are just additional shiat on that.

yes, but that's not why ICE raids happen.

and if the US really cared about human trafficking from/through Mexico, it would disband and rebuild both ICE and the Border Patrol as professional oorganizations worthy of respect.

Most of the trafficing occurs because Border Patrol allows it to happen based on graft and greed.

Most of the trafficking occurs before they get to the USA. The whole Coyote system?

My mistake.  I thought your concern was with the US-Mexico border.

So you're saying you have not really concerned with people illegally crossing the border for work on their own.

I take it you're in favor of increasing the number and types of refugees let into the US then?  Maybe you should go work for the State Department to help work on these things.


Actually, I do think we should give lots of working visas - especially jobs for which Americans refuse to do the work (see: Alabama where pay was significantly above minimum wage and 90% of Americans of all colors didn't show up after day 1).

You're right, I'm far less concerned with people who come on their own to cross the border. The ones (read: non-Mexicans) who pay $10,000 to a coyote who likely bribes local officials to leave him and his flock alone are my concern. Mexico has strict deportation laws if you don't pay your bribe or stop in México. It's actually kind of funny to me that people ignore that aspect.

Again, Mexico has many sins that it needs to address before I show any sympathy for this stunt that only affects a small number of tourists and likely mostly affect the religious nuts from AZ who cross the border on land.
 
2020-07-04 1:50:03 PM  
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orneryredguy: toraque: Huh.  So all along, Trump was right.  A border wall is going to be built, and Mexico will pay for it.

It won't be facing the way he told us, though.

Came here to say this.

/How many fingers are left on his monkey's paw?


At least the middle one
 
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