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2020-07-04 3:57:56 AM  
Fun fact: it was actually inspired by part of Dvorak's New World Symphony.
Antonín Dvořák - Symphony No. 9 "From the New World", Op. 95 - IV. Allegro con Fuoco
Youtube pVOh4r2nOOw
 
2020-07-04 4:01:52 AM  
Anyway, presenting: The Not-Very-Scary Sharks. Ok boys, take it away...
shark chior
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2020-07-04 6:44:17 AM  
Yet another vapid article meant to fill a website page for the accompanying ads without saying anything new, different, or important. (Yes, welcome to Fark.)

I would have liked to have read a bit about music theory. Why, exactly, do those two notes inspire such feelings? Is it something about how a minor key or flat note affects a certain part of the brain? Or is it something else? I don't know because I'm not musically inclined -- but it would have been interesting to find out.
 
2020-07-04 7:37:24 AM  
Matt Schrader & Joe Kraemer: "Score: A Film Music Documentary" | Talks at Google
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2020-07-04 7:57:22 AM  
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Youtube MTHBEbivfZI


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2020-07-04 7:59:43 AM  

I Ate Shergar: Fun fact: it was actually inspired by part of Dvorak's New World Symphony.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/pVOh4r2n​OOw]

Fact?  I don't think so.

"The similarities between the two are, to put it kindly, extremely superficial."

http://byzantiumshores.blogspot.com/2​0​15/02/no-john-williams-did-not-rip-off​-dvorak.html?m=1
 
2020-07-04 8:21:16 AM  
Two notes are all you really need.

Pantera - Walk (Official Music Video)
Youtube AkFqg5wAuFk
 
2020-07-04 8:36:42 AM  
The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.
 
2020-07-04 8:38:48 AM  
Ella Fitzgerald : One note Samba (scat singing) 1969
Youtube PbL9vr4Q2LU
 
2020-07-04 8:50:13 AM  

Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.


There were a lot of things that didn't work that made it a better film. In the scene where Hooper goes down in the shark cage, they used a real shark. They obviously didn't have a 25 foot shark so they built a miniature cage and had a "little person" stand in for Hooper, who was supposed to get eaten. The little person didn't show so they re-wrote it so Hooper escaped and lived. The film worked a lot better with Hooper surviving.

John Williams' score is a lot more than the two notes, BTW. It's actually pretty great.
 
2020-07-04 8:50:39 AM  

Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.


In retrospect, not showing the shark too much also worked. What you can't see is always scarier than what you can see.
 
2020-07-04 8:51:40 AM  
John Cage's 4'33"
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2020-07-04 9:28:52 AM  
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2020-07-04 9:42:17 AM  
Repetitive low frequency notes/sounds will always tickle your amygdala. Thunder, gunfire, a large cat chuffing in the forest nearby, a stone shifting on a slope, t all triggers our fight or flight instincts as those frequencies are usually associated with immediate danger.  We've evolved to respond to that.
 
2020-07-04 9:44:22 AM  
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I present to you the only funny line in the 2016 Ghostbusters
 
2020-07-04 9:51:46 AM  

Mugato: Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.

There were a lot of things that didn't work that made it a better film. In the scene where Hooper goes down in the shark cage, they used a real shark. They obviously didn't have a 25 foot shark so they built a miniature cage and had a "little person" stand in for Hooper, who was supposed to get eaten. The little person didn't show so they re-wrote it so Hooper escaped and lived. The film worked a lot better with Hooper surviving.

John Williams' score is a lot more than the two notes, BTW. It's actually pretty great.


The opening strains of the Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back is only three notes.
 
2020-07-04 9:58:32 AM  
If I'm hearing the theme right, the "two notes" are E-natural F-natural.  That's a half-step or diminished 2nd, which is a dissonant interval.  It's going to sound uncomfortable anyway you play it, but Williams amped up the unnerving factor by making it start out low and slow and building it up as it goes along.  Simple, but effective.
 
2020-07-04 9:59:50 AM  
How Horror Movie Composers Terrify Us with Music
Youtube HfqcLECDgQ4

This video is much more substantial than that piffle.
 
2020-07-04 10:23:24 AM  

Mouser: If I'm hearing the theme right, the "two notes" are E-natural F-natural.  That's a half-step or diminished 2nd, which is a dissonant interval.  It's going to sound uncomfortable anyway you play it, but Williams amped up the unnerving factor by making it start out low and slow and building it up as it goes along.  Simple, but effective.


Adding to that:  Half-steps are often used to resolve a melody at the very end, so you're expecting it to go "E-natural, F-natural, E-natural" and have a pleasing finish.  But you don't get that last note at the end; instead the unfinished ending repeats itself.  You're stuck anticipating a resolution, thinking, "when's this going to end?" That increases your anxiety, especially as the tempo speeds up.
 
2020-07-04 10:28:19 AM  

bostonguy: Yet another vapid article meant to fill a website page for the accompanying ads without saying anything new, different, or important. (Yes, welcome to Fark.)

I would have liked to have read a bit about music theory. Why, exactly, do those two notes inspire such feelings? Is it something about how a minor key or flat note affects a certain part of the brain? Or is it something else? I don't know because I'm not musically inclined -- but it would have been interesting to find out.


Can't find it now, but if you're a better searcher than I, you probably will. There was a great article greenlit here a few months ago that addressed this very subject. Went into depth on John Williams' history and rise to prominence, including his influences and the theory behind everything he composes. The short of is that the man is not overrated in the slightest.
 
2020-07-04 10:33:01 AM  
A lot of people throw bricks at the mechanical shark but in truth it's a pretty remarkable achievement. They had only a few months to create 3 full size mechanical props that had to be used not in a studio setting, but in actual ocean conditions,and in salt water that was highly corrosive. The sharks had many problems, but considering the mad rush they were in to create them, and under an extremely tight budget and time constraints, the sequences where the sharks actually worked are quite good ,and some of the shots show the superiority of mechanical effects over CGI, since the shark interacts with the water and characters without the artificiality that you subconsciously pick up from CGI, as well as the ridiculous lack of understanding of the physics of water that CGI sharks always exhibit.   Having seen the film in theaters, I can say that for audiences the sharks were very terrifying on screen. unfortunately they were remade for Jaws 2 and that, combined with much more inept direction, made the sharks look like plastic props.
 
2020-07-04 10:35:12 AM  
Plissken:

Can't find it now, but if you're a better searcher than I, you probably will. There was a great article greenlit here a few months ago that addressed this very subject. Went into depth on John Williams' history and rise to prominence, including his influences and the theory behind everything he composes. The short of is that the man is not overrated in the slightest.

Well he's no Danny Elfman but he's ok.

/that was a joke
 
2020-07-04 10:48:54 AM  
it only makes idiots uncomfortable.
 
2020-07-04 10:50:46 AM  

I Ate Shergar: Fun fact: it was actually inspired by part of Dvorak's New World Symphony.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/pVOh4r2n​OOw]


Only for 3 measures, though, B up a half-step to C. I don't think there was much of the rest of the 4th movement to "inspire" John Williams. Who knows? Maybe he got that half step caught in his head and decided to just go with it, because the end of the final movement has the basses playing a blues boogie woogie and doesn't have anything to do with the rest of the symphony.
 
2020-07-04 10:50:57 AM  

viscountalpha: it only makes idiots uncomfortable.


Well....aren't you just SO edgy......i can see why people just love your contributions.
 
2020-07-04 10:52:03 AM  

viscountalpha: it only makes idiots uncomfortable.


I hate being in a pool or a body of water where I can't see the bottom. Scuba diving, I'm fine because I can see, but floating above still gives me the heebie-jeebies and the jeesi-creesies.
 
2020-07-04 10:56:59 AM  
There's Always Room for Cello
 
2020-07-04 11:26:19 AM  
I can't even get in a pool without hearing the Jaws theme to this day.
 
2020-07-04 11:30:35 AM  
14 - Godzilla Comes to Tokyo Bay
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2020-07-04 11:36:35 AM  
https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/315​5633/the-10-scariest-video-game-music-​tracks/


face facts subby, a movie will never have music that scares you to the core like a game will
 
2020-07-04 12:11:03 PM  

bostonguy: Yet another vapid article meant to fill a website page for the accompanying ads without saying anything new, different, or important. (Yes, welcome to Fark.)

I would have liked to have read a bit about music theory. Why, exactly, do those two notes inspire such feelings? Is it something about how a minor key or flat note affects a certain part of the brain? Or is it something else? I don't know because I'm not musically inclined -- but it would have been interesting to find out.


That's not music theory
 
2020-07-04 12:18:25 PM  
Before Jaws was Star Trek, TOS, "The Doomsday Machine." Same key even.

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar​d​/posts.cfm?threadID=80172&forumID=1&ar​chive=0
 
2020-07-04 12:39:15 PM  
Jesus! Do you like exclamation points? Because whoever wrote TFA sure does! They also like writing things geared at 5th graders! It's a cool article and all, but the blog itself sucks!
 
2020-07-04 12:42:30 PM  

Plissken: bostonguy: Yet another vapid article meant to fill a website page for the accompanying ads without saying anything new, different, or important. (Yes, welcome to Fark.)

I would have liked to have read a bit about music theory. Why, exactly, do those two notes inspire such feelings? Is it something about how a minor key or flat note affects a certain part of the brain? Or is it something else? I don't know because I'm not musically inclined -- but it would have been interesting to find out.

Can't find it now, but if you're a better searcher than I, you probably will. There was a great article greenlit here a few months ago that addressed this very subject. Went into depth on John Williams' history and rise to prominence, including his influences and the theory behind everything he composes. The short of is that the man is not overrated in the slightest.


Did it cover the fact that he wrote for Gilligan's Island early in his career? That's like my most obscure John Williams trivia, it's all I've got. Except that I believe he was credited as "Johnny" Williams.
 
2020-07-04 12:56:13 PM  
Hooper surviving made for one of the best last lines in film.

"I used to hate the water"

"I can't imagine why. "
 
2020-07-04 1:15:59 PM  

Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.


Bruce. The shark.

It served to make the movie way scarier than it would have been if Bruce had hit his mark everytime, i think.

When Crissy Watkins died in such a horrific way, without showing Bruce at all we already had the music tied to the shark from the opening footage. From then on it was money in the bank.

It also fed on our fear of the unknown .
 
2020-07-04 1:26:38 PM  

cocozilla: viscountalpha: it only makes idiots uncomfortable.

Well....aren't you just SO edgy......i can see why people just love your contributions.


I'm not edgy when I am the edge.
 
2020-07-04 1:35:24 PM  

Billy Liar: There's Always Room for Cello


And cowbell.

Isn't that whole increasing tempo/tension known as Ticking Clock 🤔
 
2020-07-04 2:03:16 PM  

Mugato: Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.

There were a lot of things that didn't work that made it a better film. In the scene where Hooper goes down in the shark cage, they used a real shark. They obviously didn't have a 25 foot shark so they built a miniature cage and had a "little person" stand in for Hooper, who was supposed to get eaten. The little person didn't show so they re-wrote it so Hooper escaped and lived. The film worked a lot better with Hooper surviving.

John Williams' score is a lot more than the two notes, BTW. It's actually pretty great.


They were going to feed a little person to a shark? Things sure were different in the 70s.
 
2020-07-04 2:07:24 PM  

Spartapuss: Mugato: Jake Havechek: The shark music was essential to the scariness of the shark because the stupid mechanical shark they built barely worked.  They had to amp up the fear without showing the shark too much.

There were a lot of things that didn't work that made it a better film. In the scene where Hooper goes down in the shark cage, they used a real shark. They obviously didn't have a 25 foot shark so they built a miniature cage and had a "little person" stand in for Hooper, who was supposed to get eaten. The little person didn't show so they re-wrote it so Hooper escaped and lived. The film worked a lot better with Hooper surviving.

John Williams' score is a lot more than the two notes, BTW. It's actually pretty great.

They were going to feed a little person to a shark? Things sure were different in the 70s.


Wouldn't want to overfeed him.Not hungry=not scary.
 
2020-07-04 2:23:22 PM  

Mztlplx: Two notes are all you really need.

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Adding a triangle makes it much more metaller. \m/


Pantera - Walk (cover by Leo Moracchioli feat. Mr. Damage)
Youtube bte3CajXthI
 
2020-07-04 2:47:25 PM  
To me, the Jaws theme sounds rather like the Klingon war song from Star Trek (the original movie).

Star Trek The Motion Picture Klingon Battle
Youtube 58wJRrvVgZI
 
2020-07-04 2:48:23 PM  
I got to see Bruce the mechanical shark during a riding tour of Universal studios in Hollywood.
Bruce was one of the tour features.
 
2020-07-04 3:18:34 PM  
I don't think it's the notes so much as the timing. Yes, the notes say "threat" but the timing, that getting faster ad faster, tells your hind brain "OMG! IT'S COMING RIGHT FOR US!"

/This song came up last night. I told hubby with the secret service and Don Jr's girl friend catching Covid, Trump's probably hearing the Jaws theme.
 
2020-07-04 3:22:30 PM  
That site's content is apparently written by sixth graders. They really dumb down as low as they can go without typing "goo-goo gah-gah". I like the subjects of their articles but the "Sit, Spot, Sit" style they insist upon using is brain-shattering.

/ Good dog.
 
2020-07-04 4:14:39 PM  
♪♪
 
2020-07-04 4:16:42 PM  

Kick The Chair: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JTEFKFiX​Sx4]

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Cage 4 33 Jazz
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2020-07-04 5:02:14 PM  
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2020-07-04 5:05:24 PM  

Cormee: Billy Liar: There's Always Room for Cello

And cowbell.


Shark Cowbell!
Youtube 5SYqZrz9_Q4
 
2020-07-04 5:26:04 PM  
No love for Skoora, the gentle shark?
Kids in the Hall: Skoora!
Youtube TmdYSNcpN68
 
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