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2020-07-04 2:35:28 AM  
On the good side: holy smokes! The streets are so clean now!
 
2020-07-04 2:40:59 AM  

make me some tea: TwowheelinTim: pup.socket: Looks like it is literally built on the sand, why expect differently?

It is.

They shouldn't.

The barrier islands are the first to go under.


It's a sand bar on the delta at the mouth of the Santa Ana River carrying tons and tons of sand and debris down from the San Gabriel Mountains, through the garbage laden inland empires of San Bernardino and Reeferside Counties. Yeah, it's as disgusting as it sounds. Why people pay so much money to live there is beyond my understanding.

/escaped from there in the late eighties
 
2020-07-04 2:44:21 AM  

GitOffaMyLawn: wonder if naples (between seal beach and long beach) was impacted.


I believe it's just as low, but doesn't pick up the south swell like Newport does. It's much more protected from the wave surges. That said, if it wasn't inundated it was probably nerve-wrackingly close.
 
2020-07-04 2:47:03 AM  

BlueBox: MurphyMurphy: Enigmamf: So if there's a Tesla in one of those flooded streets will it electrocute everyone on the block?

Does a regular car battery electrocute people when a regular car is submerged?

No. Low voltage.  That water may be a more important problem.


Yeah, those people bombing through the salt water in their cars are in for a hard lesson in electrolytic galvanization. They don't get snow with the accompanying salted roads, so they likely have no idea the treat that awaits them.
 
2020-07-04 2:47:36 AM  
I know someone who lives on balboa island.. He's also an anti-masker..
 
2020-07-04 2:51:13 AM  

BlueBox: Needs more "oh no!  my station wagon is getting wet".


Yeah, no way being submerged in a foot of salt water could possibly damage a metal car.
 
2020-07-04 2:55:59 AM  
Is NewportBarGuy ok?
 
2020-07-04 2:59:26 AM  
The best two years of my life were the two spent living in Newport Beach.

Of course, I've lived most of the rest of my life in the Central Valley, so my bar may be lower than yours....
 
2020-07-04 3:02:53 AM  

make me some tea: TwowheelinTim: pup.socket: Looks like it is literally built on the sand, why expect differently?

It is.

They shouldn't.

The barrier islands are the first to go under.


My bet would be on Balboa Island to go under first. It's just an old mud flat, built into an artificial island with material dredged from the surrounding harbor. I'm guessing the elevation isn't all that high.
 
2020-07-04 3:03:08 AM  
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2020-07-04 3:26:32 AM  
i'm not trying to mock people but i would take a chance
 
2020-07-04 3:36:32 AM  
I worked in China Cove, at the entrance to Balboa Island, at a marine biology lab back in the 1980s. We'd send a local kid out to go scuba diving & dig up worms by the pilings at least once a week. Not glamorous, but we paid him and he somehow enjoyed it.

There is absolutely no way I'd ever live on the beach: noise, people, occasional smells (algae blooms / fish kills every couple of years), ugh.

I'm now 90 feet above sea level, 1/3 mile in (but up in Los Angeles County). Much more to my liking.
 
2020-07-04 3:42:32 AM  

mofa: I worked in China Cove, at the entrance to Balboa Island, at a marine biology lab back in the 1980s. We'd send a local kid out to go scuba diving & dig up worms by the pilings at least once a week. Not glamorous, but we paid him and he somehow enjoyed it.

There is absolutely no way I'd ever live on the beach: noise, people, occasional smells (algae blooms / fish kills every couple of years), ugh.

I'm now 90 feet above sea level, 1/3 mile in (but up in Los Angeles County). Much more to my liking.


I got a good feel for it the summer of 1979 when I was stationed on CGC Point Divide. Our mooring was next to the Harbor Patrol in Corona Del Mar. We could look straight out between the jetties from there. When the south swell picked up we'd be rockin' and rollin' while tied to the pier. If it was bad enough we'd double up our mooring lines.
 
2020-07-04 3:53:32 AM  

Skeleton Man: Surf's up, dude.

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2020-07-04 4:31:24 AM  
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2020-07-04 4:43:05 AM  

johnny queso: lots of climate deniers down there.

that being said, class of 47 is a really great bar that is probably filled with sand right now.


I saw Dennis rodman hanging out there  on Christmas day
 
2020-07-04 4:43:18 AM  

Ken S.: BlueBox: Needs more "oh no!  my station wagon is getting wet".

Yeah, no way being submerged in a foot of salt water could possibly damage a metal car.


It's not good for it, but cars in the northern states regularly drive around in salty slush for half the year.  They also regularly rust out after 7 or 8 years.  These people will be fine if they go to...

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2020-07-04 5:02:47 AM  

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2020-07-04 5:03:19 AM  
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2020-07-04 5:04:11 AM  

Enigmamf: So if there's a Tesla in one of those flooded streets will it electrocute everyone on the block?


Nah. Elon will disconnect it with his minisub.
 
2020-07-04 5:04:13 AM  
I would say sorry but you can't even see it that fast
 
2020-07-04 5:08:52 AM  
Is this the rising tide conservatives talk abt after tax cuts?
 
2020-07-04 5:25:45 AM  

cyberspacedout: make me some tea: TwowheelinTim: pup.socket: Looks like it is literally built on the sand, why expect differently?

It is.

They shouldn't.

The barrier islands are the first to go under.

My bet would be on Balboa Island to go under first. It's just an old mud flat, built into an artificial island with material dredged from the surrounding harbor. I'm guessing the elevation isn't all that high.


That doesn't sound like particularly well thought out planning.
 
2020-07-04 5:26:32 AM  

janzee: Is this the rising tide conservatives talk abt after tax cuts?


It's not and come on man, be better
 
2020-07-04 5:27:22 AM  

janzee: Is this the rising tide conservatives talk abt after tax cuts?


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2020-07-04 5:44:15 AM  
So I was playing with a diagnostic dongle that connects to my Prius Prime, and I believe the traction motor voltage was above 300V. Under electric power at moderate acceleration, it would be pulling more than 120 Amps, or 36kW, which is the power of a moderately sized AM radio station (~49 horsepower). I have to respect that. The last time I looked was some time ago, so I'm not sure if the voltage was ~375V. But the MSB was 3. (I'd made screen recordings of the current draw to watch it while accelerating & decelerating because I'm just about the coolest hep cat around, and that's how we roll). I have yet to submerge the car, though. Suffice to say, you can die with a dozen Amps in salt water if you're especially unlucky (e.g., the circuit closing between one arm & another across your heart).

// My heirs would obviously report how that worked out; I'll put a note in my wallet to that effect.
 
2020-07-04 7:28:09 AM  

John Hopoate: Is NewportBarGuy ok?


I'm pretty sure he's in Newport, RI.
 
2020-07-04 8:19:29 AM  

mofa: So I was playing with a diagnostic dongle that connects to my Prius Prime, and I believe the traction motor voltage was above 300V. Under electric power at moderate acceleration, it would be pulling more than 120 Amps, or 36kW, which is the power of a moderately sized AM radio station (~49 horsepower). I have to respect that. The last time I looked was some time ago, so I'm not sure if the voltage was ~375V. But the MSB was 3. (I'd made screen recordings of the current draw to watch it while accelerating & decelerating because I'm just about the coolest hep cat around, and that's how we roll). I have yet to submerge the car, though. Suffice to say, you can die with a dozen Amps in salt water if you're especially unlucky (e.g., the circuit closing between one arm & another across your heart).

// My heirs would obviously report how that worked out; I'll put a note in my wallet to that effect.


The beauty of dying in a green vehicle due to climatic acceleration.

On the bright side at a certain point the water will desalinate a bit from melting ice sheets right?

/is this thing on
 
2020-07-04 8:40:37 AM  

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2020-07-04 8:41:46 AM  

libranoelrose: janzee: Is this the rising tide conservatives talk abt after tax cuts?

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I always say that a rising tide lifts all ships -- and dashes the small boats without moorings on the breakers.

I'm just too honest, or cynical, one of those.
 
2020-07-04 8:46:01 AM  
Unfortunately, all that desalinated water sitting on top of the cold, heavily saline water will freeze in giant sheets like in Antarctica, which means the ice sheets will advance and retreat erratically. Probbly result of global warming is a new ice age and it could happen faster and sooner than expected given the long-in-the-tooth interglacial we are in and have been prolonguing. Thin ice is useless for hunters and polar bears and transportation, but it makes a great mirror to reflect heat into space, changing the albedo of the sea greatly and unpredictbly. Ice and snow are not our friends except when they are. They're more frenemies, carassing you gently one moment and hitting you with sucker punches the next.
 
2020-07-04 8:49:48 AM  

holdmybones: John Hopoate: Is NewportBarGuy ok?

I'm pretty sure he's in Newport, RI.


My first hint that this was not the Newport in RI was the palm trees. I thought, silly Americans planting palm trees so far North. But the last palm trees are probably on the South Shore of NJ or brought out seasonally in Long Island. There might be no palm trees, even on the beaches in RI.

Americans and Canadians have this in common:  they don't make a great effort to think up new names for places. That's why you can snake your way across the Springfields of America. The TV show has made good use of this fact to put Springfield whereever the story line requires, in canonical and non-canonical (Treehouse of Horror) shows alike. Springfield is a sort of Brigadoon like Gore Vidal's Duluth.
 
2020-07-04 8:55:02 AM  

Trik: Godzilla passing buy underwater.


Must have one of those Florida type real estate agents if he is buying underwater. But then, if anybody could, Godzilla would.
 
2020-07-04 8:57:26 AM  

Swampmaster: The multi million dollar shacks right on the ocean are toast! But a half mile inland is a sweet ridge, maybe 80 to 100 ft up... bet those folks are glad they only paid 800k for there 2,500 sq ft four bed 4 bath place!


Like Japanese houses. Super expensive, super disposable. No two owners live in the same house. Only hermet crabs move into an old shell.
 
2020-07-04 9:22:05 AM  

make me some tea: It's probably sea level rise-related.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/art​icle/this-entire-island-may-have-to-be​-raised-up-to-counter-rising-sea/


Sinners. This is God's wrath!
 
2020-07-04 9:35:27 AM  
One thing I'd never thought of before was how gravity pools water irregularly.  Because of that, the effect of rising sea levels isn't uniform. Miami Beach and southern Atlantic cities have been hit harder and faster than other sea side towns because that's where the extra water is. There are maps (somewhere) that show these higher-than-average pools of water. Some seaside locations are subsiding but is the subsidence -- usually due to the weight of buildings -- being accelerated by the encroaching sea? Some seemingly solid locations are just a shake and a swizzle away from turning to pudding. For example, some of the sections of San Francisco that suffered horrible damage in the 1989 quake had been built on reclaimed marsh. The ground briefly liquefied in the quake and the buildings collapsed. What they're finding in Antarctica is that the ocean is encroaching below sea level so everything looks ok on the surface, but there's  serious thinning going on below. It would take someone with more info than me to say if that's what's happening on the West Coast. It could just be over-development. My sister-in-law's husband took us boating in that harbor 30 years ago and I'd never seen so many condos. I'm sure the appetite for over-building hasn't abated.
 
2020-07-04 9:48:01 AM  

Weatherkiss: Yeah, but I had to turn on my electric blanket this winter, so it can't be because of climate change.


If you turn on your electric blanket you are contributing to climate change you monster.
 
2020-07-04 10:19:47 AM  
The tide is high, but I'm holding on
I'm gonna be your number one
I'm not the kind of man who gives up just like that
No, oh
 
2020-07-04 10:23:29 AM  

yakmans_dad: One thing I'd never thought of before was how gravity pools water irregularly.  Because of that, the effect of rising sea levels isn't uniform. Miami Beach and southern Atlantic cities have been hit harder and faster than other sea side towns because that's where the extra water is. There are maps (somewhere) that show these higher-than-average pools of water. Some seaside locations are subsiding but is the subsidence -- usually due to the weight of buildings -- being accelerated by the encroaching sea? Some seemingly solid locations are just a shake and a swizzle away from turning to pudding. For example, some of the sections of San Francisco that suffered horrible damage in the 1989 quake had been built on reclaimed marsh. The ground briefly liquefied in the quake and the buildings collapsed. What they're finding in Antarctica is that the ocean is encroaching below sea level so everything looks ok on the surface, but there's  serious thinning going on below. It would take someone with more info than me to say if that's what's happening on the West Coast. It could just be over-development. My sister-in-law's husband took us boating in that harbor 30 years ago and I'd never seen so many condos. I'm sure the appetite for over-building hasn't abated.


In Florida (and most of the Gulf Coast), a lot of the subsidence is due to freshwater being pumped out of the underlying aquifers, reducing the support for the ground above. California doesn't have that problem. But they do have a lot of reclaimed infill land, which is inherently unstable. Hence, The Wedge got Wedged.
 
2020-07-04 10:45:06 AM  

GitOffaMyLawn: wonder if naples (between seal beach and long beach) was impacted.


Nope
 
2020-07-04 11:10:05 AM  
The boat appears to be a 36' or 38' Cheoy Lee -- double-ender, teak deck.  Breaks my heart to see it destroyed.
 
2020-07-04 12:39:19 PM  

i ignore u: Ken S.: BlueBox: Needs more "oh no!  my station wagon is getting wet".

Yeah, no way being submerged in a foot of salt water could possibly damage a metal car.

It's not good for it, but cars in the northern states regularly drive around in salty slush for half the year.  They also regularly rust out after 7 or 8 years.  These people will be fine if they go to...

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Of course they'll wash their cars, but they won't think to rinse the undercarriage where the damage will be done from the inside out.
 
2020-07-04 12:47:08 PM  

TwowheelinTim: i ignore u: Ken S.: BlueBox: Needs more "oh no!  my station wagon is getting wet".

Yeah, no way being submerged in a foot of salt water could possibly damage a metal car.

It's not good for it, but cars in the northern states regularly drive around in salty slush for half the year.  They also regularly rust out after 7 or 8 years.  These people will be fine if they go to...

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/fXXmeP9T​vBg]

Of course they'll wash their cars, but they won't think to rinse the undercarriage where the damage will be done from the inside out.


Not to mention their carpets and electrical systems soaked with salt water.
 
2020-07-04 2:25:18 PM  

Swampmaster: The multi million dollar shacks right on the ocean are toast! But a half mile inland is a sweet ridge, maybe 80 to 100 ft up... bet those folks are glad they only paid 800k for there 2,500 sq ft four bed 4 bath place!


My husband's boss is there right now. He bought his wife a house there for only $5,000,000.00
 
2020-07-04 4:07:08 PM  

born_yesterday: cyberspacedout: make me some tea: TwowheelinTim: pup.socket: Looks like it is literally built on the sand, why expect differently?

It is.

They shouldn't.

The barrier islands are the first to go under.

My bet would be on Balboa Island to go under first. It's just an old mud flat, built into an artificial island with material dredged from the surrounding harbor. I'm guessing the elevation isn't all that high.

That doesn't sound like particularly well thought out planning.


I haven't really read too much about it, so I'm not sure if it was originally just a site to dump all the sand and silt being dredged out of the rest of the bay there. The same guy doing that did eventually come up with the idea of using it as a real estate development, though, because $$$$.

It's now over 100 years old, and homes there are terribly overpriced, so you can imagine that its inhabitants might not know or care about its history.
 
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