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2020-07-03 12:53:52 PM  
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2020-07-03 1:13:57 PM  
Yeah he's an idiot.
I saw Springsteen's one man show on HBO, and he told the story behind the song followed by an acoustic version, just him on the guitar.  Amazing.
Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.
 
2020-07-03 1:14:40 PM  
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2020-07-03 1:17:35 PM  
Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"
 
2020-07-03 1:18:30 PM  
I remember the first time I heard someone use that song in a campaign. It was truly a WTF moment.
 
2020-07-03 1:22:20 PM  
Wait until they figure out American Woman.
 
2020-07-03 1:22:23 PM  
2 Live Crew - Banned In The USA
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2020-07-03 1:22:45 PM  
I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.
 
2020-07-03 1:30:45 PM  

grokca: Wait until they figure out American Woman.


Or This Land is Your Land.
 
2020-07-03 1:32:00 PM  

yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.


Brothers Under the Bridge is great although heartbreaking.
 
2020-07-03 1:36:44 PM  
Born in The USA - John Candy - Canadian Bacon
Youtube 1bXzFY72wbs
 
2020-07-03 1:38:50 PM  
If anyone in the Democratic party had a desire to pull a bunch of voters, they really should contact Toby Keith.  He's got many pro-military patriotic songs and country music loves him.

He's also a huge Democrat, which is why you will not hear his stuff at GOP events.  IIRC, his record label has made it clear to them to not even bother asking to use his material.
 
2020-07-03 1:45:01 PM  
Class Clown:O, Beautiful,
For smoggy skies
Insecticided grain
For strip-mined mountains, majesty
Above the asphalt plains.
America, America,
Man sheds his waste on thee
And hides the pines
With billboard signs
From sea to oily sea!
 
2020-07-03 1:45:48 PM  
The local fireworks show uses it every year, but I think that has more to do with this being Jersey. The other songs are Hungry Heart, The Promised Land, Darkness On The Edge of Town, and Born to Run.
 
2020-07-03 1:46:33 PM  
John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.
 
2020-07-03 1:46:38 PM  
I actually read the article and it wasn't so stone cold stupid as the usual Federalist yapping.

That said, BitUSA should be part of the 4th of July, with a full understanding of the lyrics.   The Revolution was the biggest protest of all, after all.   Protest songs aren't unpatriotic.

But yeah, I always enjoy when righties finally understand what the song is really saying.
 
2020-07-03 1:46:44 PM  

Zulu_as_Kono: Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"


CSB\
In a very particular dark spot in my life, I did tech support for Xbox. Not what you think, I dialed in from the dock I was (unwillingly) tied to and VPN to a switch that made me suddenly an Xbox  employee. At $9/hr. Usually in my bathrobe + thermals. Pick up calls from drunk 12 yr olds from Bumfark, WTF who were trying to explain they shouldn't be banned for screaming "n-bong" into the mike on Xbox live. Moderation in all things, especially moderated online gaming.

Got delivered, right to the dock, a shiny Xbox 360 (I'm a PC gamer, the 360 is horrid hardware junk. Convince me otherwise) some Xbox live credit. Set it up on the Nav table (nav table always gets clutter, right after the quarterberth fills with spares, books and junk).

I got some free Netflix and had this torrid, hot impassioned romance with Battlestar Galactica. It was just this side of obscene. Oh... Katie. I still think of you. (BSG and I have since moved on. We hang out sometimes, you know, but just friends)

I spent some Xbox coin and D/L Battlefield. I couldn't stomach the CoD people I walked through firewall port forwarding, the Battlefield crowd just sounded like adults. I also was looking for retro so they had a Vietnam scenario DLC, so against my better judgement I paid real money and got that.

It's problematic in a lot of ways. I really don't like realistic fps ... Skyrim is racist and bloody enough (Skyrim belongs to the Nords! Yeah, ok, Viking Cleetus, suck Daedric Arrows). But I shrugged, played it for what it's worth. Turned the music on and what came out? Fortunate Son. Not paint it black, or California dreaming, not surfer girl, farking CCR.
Wow. Well I laughed, cried, appreciated that Fogarty would probably have an opinion about this and dialed back into work.

/CSB
 
2020-07-03 1:48:35 PM  

shastacola: John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.


Wow! That's farked. Pink houses is about as anti capitalism, anti hate in rock without moving straight into punk.
 
2020-07-03 1:49:03 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.

Brothers Under the Bridge is great although heartbreaking.


Your double post had me thinking I'd seen a ghost.

No, really, if you want to let Bruce break your heart, Ghost of Tom Joad with a Devils and Dust chaser. Just don't do it while driving because it gets hard to see the road at times. Saw the Devils and Dust show at the Pantages and he nearly killed the entire audience from dehydration with all the weeping.
 
2020-07-03 1:50:44 PM  

yohohogreengiant: shastacola: John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.

Wow! That's farked. Pink houses is about as anti capitalism, anti hate in rock without moving straight into punk.


He had to stop the McCain campaign from using it too, he also told them that he's one of the libbiest libbys that's ever libbed, they stopped using it immediately.
 
2020-07-03 2:01:04 PM  

oldernell: I remember the first time I heard someone use that song in a campaign. It was truly a WTF moment.


It's like Hannity using Independence Day for his radio show:  BRO...did you even read the lyrics past 'Let Freedom rrriiinnnggggg'
 
2020-07-03 2:01:58 PM  

Northern: Yeah he's an idiot.
I saw Springsteen's one man show on HBO, and he told the story behind the song followed by an acoustic version, just him on the guitar.  Amazing.
Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.


I'm expecting a lot of people to go back to work out of necessity, and the covid numbers to spike even higher than they did in June as a result, and all because Republicans have made "Die for the DOW" a plank in their party platform.
 
2020-07-03 2:04:02 PM  
Northern:
Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.

And expect those things to be somewhere between rash and violent, as well as nonsensical, and self-harming to the community in which it occurs.
I still hope we have enough decent governors and local pols to get people what they need to avoid that kind of destabilization. But this is as uncharted as the waters get, so anything is possible.
 
2020-07-03 2:05:32 PM  
Hey!  That's not fair he tricked us!
 
2020-07-03 2:06:00 PM  

Zulu_as_Kono: Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"


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2020-07-03 2:06:29 PM  

Murkanen: Northern: Yeah he's an idiot.
I saw Springsteen's one man show on HBO, and he told the story behind the song followed by an acoustic version, just him on the guitar.  Amazing.
Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.

I'm expecting a lot of people to go back to work out of necessity, and the covid numbers to spike even higher than they did in June as a result, and all because Republicans have made "Die for the DOW" a plank in their party platform.


At a thousand deaths a day (I'm swallowing back bile to even say this) it's unsustainable, even to Wall Street billionaires.

Even if pitchforks and torches don't empty off the shelves, the nature of protests will change this summer, our"economy" can't limp along like that.

Eviction riots + homeless rights will be next, this won't wait for November elections and certainly not January.
 
2020-07-03 2:07:28 PM  
Obviously the economy is enjoying a thriving comeback, if Ric Romero has found work again.

Cheshire, lima beans!
 
2020-07-03 2:09:48 PM  

yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.


Nice take.  Seriously!
(I too am old enough to have hit play and record when a good song came on the radio.  We never got the beginning of the song.  To this day, there are songs I think of as starting 20 seconds in...)
 
2020-07-03 2:10:13 PM  

TwoHead: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.

Brothers Under the Bridge is great although heartbreaking.

Your double post had me thinking I'd seen a ghost.

No, really, if you want to let Bruce break your heart, Ghost of Tom Joad with a Devils and Dust chaser. Just don't do it while driving because it gets hard to see the road at times. Saw the Devils and Dust show at the Pantages and he nearly killed the entire audience from dehydration with all the weeping.


Nebraska is way more depressing IMO. It says a lot when Reason to Believe is the most uplifting song on an album.
 
2020-07-03 2:11:43 PM  
Duh.
Rage Against the Machine - The Ghost Of Tom Joad - 7/24/1999 - Woodstock 99 East Stage (Official)
Youtube Rz6GtLBR6sY
 
2020-07-03 2:12:14 PM  
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2020-07-03 2:13:02 PM  

yohohogreengiant: shastacola: John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.

Wow! That's farked. Pink houses is about as anti capitalism, anti hate in rock without moving straight into punk.


Well 'Little Pink House' is urban slang for vagina, so the message of the song is all you can achieve in America is a wife and a little house. Shut up and take it. The gays would be against that marriage part.
 
2020-07-03 2:14:21 PM  

yohohogreengiant: Set it up on the Nav table (nav table always gets clutter, right after the quarterberth fills with spares, books and junk).


My favorite part of an excellent story, of course.  (But the racer / ULDB fan in me comes out with a hearty, "but we need to talk about where your waterline is riding, sir.  Heavy is slow, ya' know." ; ) )

Thanks for sharing.

Also, thanks for reinforcing my desire never to play online anything.  And that it's ok that even poking around the single-player for one of the CoDs was enough for me to know I had zero desire to play FPS real-world combat-simulating shiat.  To each their own, and all, but... ick.  And I can't imagine the toxicity of the crowd that enjoys that *and* plays on-line *and* has technical issues with it.  Egads.  $9/hr ain't enough to scrub that off your soul, I am sure.
 
2020-07-03 2:15:34 PM  
The lyrics to the Ojay's For the Love of Money which were used for Trump's The Apprentice are dark:

For the love of money
People will steal from their mother
For the love of money
People will rob their own brother
For the love of money
People can't even walk the street
Because they never know
Who in the world they're gonna beat
For that lean, mean, mean green
Almighty dollar, money

For the love of money
People will lie, Lord, they will cheat
For the love of money
People don't care who they hurt or beat
For the love of money
A woman will sell her precious body
For a small piece of paper
It carries a lot of weight
Call it lean, mean, mean green


source:http://www.lyricsondemand.co​m/tvthemes​/apprenticelyrics.html
 
2020-07-03 2:15:56 PM  

lurkey: Class Clown:O, Beautiful,
For smoggy skies
Insecticided grain
For strip-mined mountains, majesty
Above the asphalt plains.
America, America,
Man sheds his waste on thee
And hides the pines
With billboard signs
From sea to oily sea!


That was from George Carlin
 
2020-07-03 2:17:15 PM  

AndTheyAllLived: yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.

Nice take.  Seriously!
(I too am old enough to have hit play and record when a good song came on the radio.  We never got the beginning of the song.  To this day, there are songs I think of as starting 20 seconds in...)


Mom's recorder let you hit pause-on-record. It was a great big hot buzzy console. But it had a gain knob and a DB needle, so I could get the music on tape at a good relative volume

What pissed me off was the farking DJ blabbing over the last five seconds. Jackass! Let the song end!

I got very used to song order on those tapes, so years later when I finally got ahold of CDs I'd be momentarily disoriented when the actual next song came on and not the mix.

Xer shiat for sure.
 
2020-07-03 2:17:42 PM  

Clash City Farker: yohohogreengiant: shastacola: John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.

Wow! That's farked. Pink houses is about as anti capitalism, anti hate in rock without moving straight into punk.

Well 'Little Pink House' is urban slang for vagina, so the message of the song is all you can achieve in America is a wife and a little house. Shut up and take it. The gays would be against that marriage part.


You're thinking of Little Red Corvette, which I believe was some sort of wooden ship...
 
2020-07-03 2:19:17 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The lyrics to the Ojay's For the Love of Money which were used for Trump's The Apprentice are dark:

For the love of money
People will steal from their mother
For the love of money
People will rob their own brother
For the love of money
People can't even walk the street
Because they never know
Who in the world they're gonna beat
For that lean, mean, mean green
Almighty dollar, money

For the love of money
People will lie, Lord, they will cheat
For the love of money
People don't care who they hurt or beat
For the love of money
A woman will sell her precious body
For a small piece of paper
It carries a lot of weight
Call it lean, mean, mean green


source:http://www.lyricsondemand.com/t​vthemes/apprenticelyrics.html


Unfortunately there's nothing in those lyrics that Trump would find dark.
 
2020-07-03 2:22:39 PM  
Since we're talking about Bruce Springsteen,

If you want to see a movie about how music can touch people and cross cultural barriers - watch Blinded by the Light.
 
2020-07-03 2:24:25 PM  

Zulu_as_Kono: Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"


In the early oughts there was a truck commercial or blue jean commercial or something that used just the first line of that song "some folks are born made to wave a flag, that red white and blue" and then faded out and went back to the opening chord.
 
2020-07-03 2:24:30 PM  

yohohogreengiant: AndTheyAllLived: yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.

Nice take.  Seriously!
(I too am old enough to have hit play and record when a good song came on the radio.  We never got the beginning of the song.  To this day, there are songs I think of as starting 20 seconds in...)

Mom's recorder let you hit pause-on-record. It was a great big hot buzzy console. But it had a gain knob and a DB needle, so I could get the music on tape at a good relative volume

What pissed me off was the farking DJ blabbing over the last five seconds. Jackass! Let the song end!

I got very used to song order on those tapes, so years later when I finally got ahold of CDs I'd be momentarily disoriented when the act ...


More stories!

No for real, these posts are interesting. Thank you for sharing!
 
2020-07-03 2:27:28 PM  

salvador.hardin: Zulu_as_Kono: Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"

In the early oughts there was a truck commercial or blue jean commercial or something that used just the first line of that song "some folks are born made to wave a flag, that red white and blue" and then faded out and went back to the opening chord.


Jeans.
 
2020-07-03 2:28:31 PM  

salvador.hardin: Zulu_as_Kono: Next:

"Conservatives shocked to realize CCR's 'Fortunate Son' NOT Super-Patriotic"

In the early oughts there was a truck commercial or blue jean commercial or something that used just the first line of that song "some folks are born made to wave a flag, that red white and blue" and then faded out and went back to the opening chord.


Then, of course, there was a Janis Joplin song being used by Mercedes for a bit there.

< whoooooooosh >
 
2020-07-03 2:28:46 PM  
shastacola: yohohogreengiant: shastacola: John Mellencamp had to stop the anti gay group National Organization for Marriage from using Little Pink Houses once. How they got an anti gay vibe from that song is anybody's guess.

Wow! That's farked. Pink houses is about as anti capitalism, anti hate in rock without moving straight into punk.

John says it your country now
he'll being selling toyotas in the fall 

that's not true he's a patriot

A Piece of the Pie
Youtube PusmGLrDQFs
 
2020-07-03 2:29:48 PM  

Murkanen: Northern: Yeah he's an idiot.
I saw Springsteen's one man show on HBO, and he told the story behind the song followed by an acoustic version, just him on the guitar.  Amazing.
Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.

I'm expecting a lot of people to go back to work out of necessity, and the covid numbers to spike even higher than they did in June as a result, and all because Republicans have made "Die for the DOW" a plank in their party platform.


I see this as more "die for the tax cuts".
On the one hand, the GOP (McConnell), won't pass another rescue bill for 99% of Americans.  On the other hand he can't simply let 40-150 million Americans go through bankruptcy, collapsing the country either.
However, as Krugman observed after 2008, the government can't cut spending with interest rates at 0% to balance the budget, every dollar cut results in a loss of $1.40 to GDP.  Meaning the only way out of this hole is to dramatically increase taxes on the wealthy, and keep consumers on life support.
Of course he can't do that either, even in an election year.
Their little experiment in taking governors to court, opening bars and clubs and withholding COVID-19 testing and contact tracing is blowing up in their faces.  It turns out that many conservative voters, especially the elderly are not ready yet to meet Jeebus.
The entire response is a show for the rubes while McConnell, Trump, and their  band of crooks loot the treasury.  It's why I don't believe the USA will survive a second Trump term.
 
2020-07-03 2:29:57 PM  
27 years ago I was working in Hong Kong - it was still under British rule,  Very homesick, I went to a British pub for dinner at the bar, and nearly all there were Chinese as the exodus of British was happening due to the upcoming change over.  On the wall was a jukebox and look!  Born In The USA!   I played that song with a few others, and when Bruce came on, and sang "to kill the yellow man" everyone silently turned towards me.  I make a quick exit before I got the shiat kicked outta me.
 
2020-07-03 2:31:41 PM  

monsatano: TwoHead: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: yohohogreengiant: I never thought the song equivocated or dog whistled: there was fallen idealism, war, loss and finally a grim retreat under the reality there was never a Great America for Everyone, and clinging to that was a dangerously foolish exercise. The whole small town America myth was a thin veneer smeared over historical and persistent inequality and finally doomed by automation and global capitalism.

It is a wholly different kind patriotism in that song. One of coming to terms with reality that has always sucked for many. Over the years it has strained my credulity that  conservatives appropriated it as a rally song without a hint off irony. I mean the words are clear in the song, even if you're too illiterate to read the liner notes.

Springsteen is a great composer and performer. This was the first vinyl rock music album ever brought into my childhood home.  Normally I'd get music by covertly recording a cassette from FM radio on my mother's stereo and listen to it with earphones in my room.

I was a teenager when I learned that Springsteen was from NJ, I'd always thought of his hometown as being in the South. I know, weird, but when you're a kid inaccurate ideas take on geography. And to a SoCal kid, he didn't sound what you think people from NJ sound like. Until you're old (and lucky) enough to travel.

Brothers Under the Bridge is great although heartbreaking.

Your double post had me thinking I'd seen a ghost.

No, really, if you want to let Bruce break your heart, Ghost of Tom Joad with a Devils and Dust chaser. Just don't do it while driving because it gets hard to see the road at times. Saw the Devils and Dust show at the Pantages and he nearly killed the entire audience from dehydration with all the weeping.

Nebraska is way more depressing IMO. It says a lot when Reason to Believe is the most uplifting song on an album.


Ummm, Open All Night? No idea how that song got on there other than the fact that it rocks :p

I get your point though and you are welcome to make it a triple header if  you really need the suffering.
 
2020-07-03 2:32:54 PM  

Northern: Once the unemployment supplemental $600/month ends, expect things to happen in this country.


Things will happen, but the GOP has already set the groundwork for blaming the Democrats for the country being shut down.  Why do you think they have worked so hard to make COVID-19 a partisan issue, with Republicans denying that it exists?
 
2020-07-03 2:32:58 PM  

yohohogreengiant: Skyrim is racist and bloody enough (Skyrim belongs to the Nords! Yeah, ok, Viking Cleetus, suck Daedric Arrows).


Is it racist to go Thalmor hunting? Because if it is then my characters are farking racist as shiat. Those guys are dripping with loot and mouth off as you slaughter them. Picking wild mountain flowers all the way to the bank.
 
2020-07-03 2:34:14 PM  
I make it a point to listen to the Jimi Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner at least once every 4th of July. Born in the USA is just one more tune that became vastly popular during the Reagan Administration that I wasn't all that interested in hearing, whatever the merits of its lyrics. It is a fairly entertaining example of how very many people just treat music as background noise, and never really listen to it, though. Republicans definitely ate that song up. They probably still will. Most of them don't read anything, either, so this Federalist article will never come to their attention.
 
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