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(Washington Post)   Hospitals in Texas and Arizona establish protocols for deciding which critically ill patients will get ventilators and other scarce resources, and which will get only palliative care before they die. To be run by a panel. Death panels, if you will   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-07-03 11:58:19 AM  
Thank Gawd they saved us from the horrors of Socialized Medicine
 
2020-07-03 12:01:18 PM  
Thank Gawd they saved-

anuran: Thank Gawd they saved us from the horrors of Socialized Medicine


Nevermind.
 
2020-07-03 12:05:04 PM  
Sarah was right.  Just got the party wrong.
 
2020-07-03 12:12:20 PM  
Texas has had death panels for years, put in place by Republicans. It was always another instance of projection, and surprisingly effective. It's called the Texas Advanced Directives Act.
 
2020-07-03 12:26:51 PM  
Don't bet on black.
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2020-07-03 1:23:16 PM  
But I thought we were the "King of Ventilators"?
 
2020-07-03 1:23:34 PM  
Thanks, Obama.  Oh wait.
 
2020-07-03 1:23:42 PM  
Take that, libs!
 
2020-07-03 1:24:47 PM  
What if the patient is a pre-natal Texan?
 
2020-07-03 1:25:40 PM  

stan unusual: Don't bet on black.
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Do you get 3D6 to roll some stats?
 
2020-07-03 1:25:58 PM  

born_yesterday: Take that, libs!


I feel so pwnt right now.
 
2020-07-03 1:27:47 PM  

anuran: Thank Gawd they saved us from the horrors of Socialized Medicine


You know who was born to lead these of course right?

Jared Kushner.
 
2020-07-03 1:28:01 PM  

KY Jerry: What if the patient is a pre-natal Texan?


They will rip open the moms womb and pull the baby out to save it.  If the mom dies, oh well.
 
2020-07-03 1:28:08 PM  
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Don't worry.  You could always win a chance at renewal at carousel.
 
2020-07-03 1:28:54 PM  

stan unusual: Don't bet on black.
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Wow.   They just about went with Comic Sans, didn't they?

/Might be my monitor/resolution of form
 
2020-07-03 1:29:30 PM  
Death panel. Great. Thanks Obama
 
2020-07-03 1:29:48 PM  
Completely unavoidable. This is a virus, there is no vaccine there is absolutely nothing that can be done to slow or mitigate the spread. While there is a correlation between handwashing, social distancing, and face masks it would be foolish to force people to endure minor inconveniences until there is absolute proof of efficacy.
 
2020-07-03 1:30:21 PM  

Clarence Brown: Texas has had death panels for years, put in place by Republicans. It was always another instance of projection, and surprisingly effective. It's called the Texas Advanced Directives Act.


You're gonna die!

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2020-07-03 1:31:11 PM  
Obamacare.

I knew it.

If only everything was privatized. Then it would all be perfect.

/Don't go and try to correct me with facts and details
//Government should stay out of our Medicare
 
2020-07-03 1:33:16 PM  
You're missing the big difference subby.  Obamacare had Death Panels, they decided who died.  These are Life Panels, they decide who lifes.
 
2020-07-03 1:34:11 PM  

ShavedOrangutan: You're missing the big difference subby.  Obamacare had Death Panels, they decided who died.  These are Life Panels, they decide who lifes.


So the CEO and the Board of Directors, then?
 
2020-07-03 1:34:15 PM  
Remember they are all about psychological projection. When republicans raised the alarm about death panels coming what they really were saying is that they can't wait to gain some power and try them out.
 
2020-07-03 1:35:30 PM  

FleshMonkey: Obamacare.

I knew it.

If only everything was privatized. Then it would all be perfect.

/Don't go and try to correct me with facts and details
//Government should stay out of our Medicare


This was good sarcasm.
 
2020-07-03 1:35:42 PM  

stan unusual: Don't bet on black.
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To be fair they do get a shiat ton of morphine if they're expectant
 
2020-07-03 1:35:57 PM  
Just like Alan Grayson said.  The republican's health plan is Don't get sick. And if you do, die quickly.
 
2020-07-03 1:36:20 PM  

KY Jerry: What if the patient is a pre-natal Texan?


Then they keep the brain dead body of the mother "alive' until the fetus is born.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/health​/​texas-pregnant-brain-dead-woman/index.​html
 
2020-07-03 1:36:34 PM  
Strange how we never actually had death panels until Republicans kneecapped the ACA.
 
2020-07-03 1:37:50 PM  
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2020-07-03 1:39:02 PM  

KY Jerry: What if the patient is a pre-natal Texan?


A world run by AI destroyd with carefully chosen words
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2020-07-03 1:39:12 PM  
STOP TESTING!!!
 
2020-07-03 1:40:02 PM  

OkieDookie: ShavedOrangutan: You're missing the big difference subby.  Obamacare had Death Panels, they decided who died.  These are Life Panels, they decide who lifes.

So the CEO and the Board of Directors, then?


tsk tsk.  So narrow minded and cynical, their families are also on the list.
 
2020-07-03 1:40:26 PM  
Step 1 should be to quickly scrutinize the patient's social media postings. If they've suggested any of the following:

- Masks don't work
- It's just the flu/it's like a bad year of flue/it's only a little worse than the flu
- It only kills old people and those with comorbidities
- The death rate is very low
- It's a hoax
- The economy is more important
- PeRsOnAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy: just stay home if you're vulnerable
- The only reason the numbers go up is because of more testing
- Ackshually, Sweden is a success

...then you get given exactly one $25 aspirin, and get tossed out (literally tossed out by a burly orderly) onto the street, and the bed/ventilator is given to someone who isn't a complete moron.
 
2020-07-03 1:41:06 PM  

stan unusual: Don't bet on black.
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It's the only sure bet!
 
2020-07-03 1:41:41 PM  
Start by denying treatment to anyone who has posted misinformation or virus denial on social media.
 
2020-07-03 1:42:05 PM  

Cheron: Completely unavoidable. This is a virus, there is no vaccine there is absolutely nothing that can be done to slow or mitigate the spread. While there is a correlation between handwashing, social distancing, and face masks it would be foolish to force people to endure minor inconveniences until there is absolute proof of efficacy.


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2020-07-03 1:43:32 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: PeRsOnAl ReSpOnSiBiLiTy: just stay home if you're vulnerable


They would have spelled that as your vulnerable.
 
2020-07-03 1:43:58 PM  

stan unusual: Don't bet on black.
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Nice snipe.
 
2020-07-03 1:45:58 PM  
Yarp. This is one of the many reasons why we locked down everything, to slow down the rate of infection, so that the hospitals would not be swamped with patients. But given how many graduated of Dunning-Kruger University are in this country it was inevitable that some people in some places would screw it up. So yeah, death panels.
 
2020-07-03 1:47:07 PM  
If they don't include a search of social media history to see if someone said the virus was a hoax or wailed about freedumbs when asked to wear a mask, they're wasting resources that could be saving people on plague rats.
 
2020-07-03 1:47:37 PM  
Cuomo wailed "Save New York first!"

Time for him to ship the ventilators and healthcare workers to Texas like he promised.
 
2020-07-03 1:49:48 PM  
""crisis standards of care" protocols"

I've seen this sort of mindset before. Certain ones were selected "Left" and the other were selected "Right"

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They can candy-coat it all they want with sterile language to rationalize their actions, but it's still murder.
 
2020-07-03 1:50:00 PM  

Mock26: Yarp. This is one of the many reasons why we locked down everything, to slow down the rate of infection, so that the hospitals would not be swamped with patients. But given how many graduated of Dunning-Kruger University are in this country it was inevitable that some people in some places would screw it up. So yeah, death panels.


Look, it's a complicated thing.  You can't expect a government to get it right the first time around.

Second wave, they'll have it down pat.

Third wave at the latest.
 
2020-07-03 1:50:12 PM  

Cheron: Completely unavoidable. This is a virus, there is no vaccine there is absolutely nothing that can be done to slow or mitigate the spread. While there is a correlation between handwashing, social distancing, and face masks it would be foolish to force people to endure minor inconveniences until there is absolute proof of efficacy.


Unfortunately, you have to go even farther down the rabbit hole, because there's plenty of absolute evidence showing that masks work when worn properly.

You almost can't be sarcastic enough to actually come up their actual position.
 
2020-07-03 1:51:15 PM  
This is the reality Republicans wanted.
 
2020-07-03 1:53:22 PM  

Mr Guy: Cheron: Completely unavoidable. This is a virus, there is no vaccine there is absolutely nothing that can be done to slow or mitigate the spread. While there is a correlation between handwashing, social distancing, and face masks it would be foolish to force people to endure minor inconveniences until there is absolute proof of efficacy.

Unfortunately, you have to go even farther down the rabbit hole, because there's plenty of absolute evidence showing that masks work when worn properly.

You almost can't be sarcastic enough to actually come up their actual position.


'work' is a meaningless word on this context.

What masks do is reduce the rate of transmission. It doesn't stop transmission.

Masks are much better than nothing. We should all wear masks in public. But masks are not the solution. If everyone wore a mask, 100% of the time in public, people would still get sick.
 
2020-07-03 1:54:37 PM  
Should have been the case from day one.

Close the borders.
Of even the States and cities.

Martial law. Now.
🙄
Make every thing open 24 hours.  365.
 
2020-07-03 1:55:06 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: ""crisis standards of care" protocols"

I've seen this sort of mindset before. Certain ones were selected "Left" and the other were selected "Right"

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They can candy-coat it all they want with sterile language to rationalize their actions, but it's still murder.


We do it in war all the time!

US soldiers > Friendlies > Civilians > enemy combatants.
 
2020-07-03 1:56:24 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: ""crisis standards of care" protocols"

I've seen this sort of mindset before. Certain ones were selected "Left" and the other were selected "Right"

[Fark user image image 460x259]

They can candy-coat it all they want with sterile language to rationalize their actions, but it's still murder.


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2020-07-03 1:56:59 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Mr Guy: Cheron: Completely unavoidable. This is a virus, there is no vaccine there is absolutely nothing that can be done to slow or mitigate the spread. While there is a correlation between handwashing, social distancing, and face masks it would be foolish to force people to endure minor inconveniences until there is absolute proof of efficacy.

Unfortunately, you have to go even farther down the rabbit hole, because there's plenty of absolute evidence showing that masks work when worn properly.

You almost can't be sarcastic enough to actually come up their actual position.

'work' is a meaningless word on this context.

What masks do is reduce the rate of transmission. It doesn't stop transmission.

Masks are much better than nothing. We should all wear masks in public. But masks are not the solution. If everyone wore a mask, 100% of the time in public, people would still get sick.


Texas has a solution....  one can say it's "final."

"Who has been most loyal to the government."
 
2020-07-03 1:58:42 PM  
Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill the poor
 
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