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(Fox News)   Los Angeles mayor: There's nothing connecting the COVID spike to the woke protests and you GOP haters can suck it...by which I mean there, um, is a link but we're hoping that part only shows up in the Friday night news dump that nobody reads   (foxnews.com) divider line
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2020-07-03 1:43:12 PM  
Using usual prosecutorial logic, the police officers in Minneapolis should be charged with any death that results.
 
2020-07-03 1:57:28 PM  
I'm sure the science-loving patriots at Fox News are totally on the up-and-up with this article.
 
2020-07-03 2:07:15 PM  
FTFA: He claimed he'd consulted with Dr. Barbara Ferrer, LA County's director of public health, and determined the protests were in fact contributing to the spread of the virus. "I talked again with Dr. Ferrer about that this morning. She does think some of the spread did come from our protests," he said.

Speaking with someone is not evidence. Where is Dr. Ferrer's evidence from contact tracing? If medical professionals can trace churches and bars then they ought to be able to present evidence as they have from those sources. So far I have not been able to find anyone presenting evidence on the record about a positive finding.
 
2020-07-03 3:39:08 PM  
They only buried the lede in the next-to-last paragraph.

"There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"
 
2020-07-03 3:48:16 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: They only buried the lede in the next-to-last paragraph.

"There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


"We report, you decide!"

/Your mileage may vary.
 
2020-07-03 4:21:32 PM  
 
2020-07-03 5:06:21 PM  

fifthofzen: How many peaceful protestors were arrested and had their masks torn off before being crammed into busses for hours?


Or to put another way, there may not be any spread from the protests as such, but there could well be spread from the arrests. But we can't have that, because then it would be the cops' fault.
 
2020-07-03 5:10:32 PM  
Fox, worth ignoring.
 
2020-07-03 5:11:07 PM  
Apparently not doubling down, and triple-double down, but actually admitting you were wrong is in fact, the wrong thing to do.

Figures.
 
2020-07-03 5:11:13 PM  
i drove through my small town center this morning,we live in a weird little beach town so there are tourists---ok,first time i've seen people here not wearing masks.  i don't have an issue with the tourists coming here but wear a farking mask.
 
2020-07-03 5:13:27 PM  
I have issues with Garcetti, but this ain't one of them. He made token cuts to the LAPD when he should be pushing for reform to bottom. His action were completely tone deaf. The protests where not about the amount of police overtime. The reaction to the LAPD riot is not a freeze in hiring. It should be a mass replacement of the rank and file.
 
2020-07-03 5:13:42 PM  

Mithiwithi: fifthofzen: How many peaceful protestors were arrested and had their masks torn off before being crammed into busses for hours?

Or to put another way, there may not be any spread from the protests as such, but there could well be spread from the arrests. But we can't have that, because then it would be the cops' fault.


I thought there was a study that indicated the protests resulted in a reduction of spread because a majority of people chose not to go out to avoid the protests.  So the protests likely resulted in some spread but not enough to offset the reduction spread.  So I say continue the protests if it gets people to stop being stupid (also because the protests are just and hopefully will have a substantial impact toward improving the justice system here)
 
2020-07-03 5:14:46 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: They only buried the lede in the next-to-last paragraph.

"There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


That's how Stupidfux Nooz operates: catch viewers/readers with the "YOU NEED TO SEE THIS SPECIAL NEWS ALERT THAT WILL PISS YOU THE FARK OFF BECAUSE LIBERALS ARE ALWAYS WRONG AND HERE'S PROOF!" then put the disclaimer in tiny print close to the end with the actual truth. They know, by that point, most of their readers/viewers have stopped paying attention.
 
2020-07-03 5:15:47 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"
 
2020-07-03 5:18:24 PM  
But Trump Brand Rallies are Safe, because the China Virus is a liberal CON-Spiracy! SAD
 
2020-07-03 5:19:12 PM  

Somacandra: FTFA: He claimed he'd consulted with Dr. Barbara Ferrer, LA County's director of public health, and determined the protests were in fact contributing to the spread of the virus. "I talked again with Dr. Ferrer about that this morning. She does think some of the spread did come from our protests," he said.

Speaking with someone is not evidence. Where is Dr. Ferrer's evidence from contact tracing? If medical professionals can trace churches and bars then they ought to be able to present evidence as they have from those sources. So far I have not been able to find anyone presenting evidence on the record about a positive finding.


I mean, look, realistically, there probably was some spread.

I think it's OK to risk your life (and potentially the lives of those you love) to fight for ideals like equality, justice, and fairness. Those on the right are willing to risk their life and others' for the cause of "BUT MAH HAIR AND NAILS!"

They want to equate their willingness to put lives in danger for trivialities with others' willingness to put lives in danger for justice and a better America.

They do this because they are garbage.
 
2020-07-03 5:20:17 PM  
I saw more facemasks on protesters that I do at the grocery store. And far more than any "right" aligned event.

Try harder Fox. You haven't murdered enough Americans yet.
 
2020-07-03 5:20:59 PM  
"Woke protests."

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2020-07-03 5:21:40 PM  

mrparks: Apparently not doubling down, and triple-double down, but actually admitting you were wrong is in fact, the wrong thing to do.

Figures.


Are you referring to the Trump rally of death in South Dakota?
 
2020-07-03 5:24:15 PM  

HighOnCraic: common sense is an oxymoron: They only buried the lede in the next-to-last paragraph.

"There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

"We report shout, you decide echo!"

/Your mileage may vary.


FTFY
 
2020-07-03 5:25:45 PM  
Suck a sack of dick-covered shiat, Subby
 
2020-07-03 5:26:10 PM  
There was a study that said protests helped because most people stayed inside out of fear of what was going on.
 
2020-07-03 5:27:14 PM  

common sense is an oxymoron: They only buried the lede in the next-to-last paragraph.

"There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


Gonna guess subby didn't get that far. Too busy masturbating furiously to the thought of BLM protesters dying.
 
2020-07-03 5:28:32 PM  
"Woke" is arguing by epithet. Congratulations on not changing tactics.

This isn't novel for the right wing. In the Lincoln/Douglas Debates. Lincoln was measured and thoughtful. Stephen Douglas went straight to, "He wants you to marry Negroes." (Don't believe me? Read 'em, as they say, and weep.)
 
2020-07-03 5:29:01 PM  
If I was the head of a metropolitan police force that was struggling with police brutality and racism,  the first thing I would do is contact the most vocal (not exactly the word I'm looking for, but bear with me) of the activists, sit down over a drink, and say "y'know, you're right; Basically, the wrong people are becoming cops.  I urge you and all citizens concerned about our culture of racism to consider applying to the academy.'
 
2020-07-03 5:29:24 PM  

born_yesterday: There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


If you search for it, there are several reports that the virus doesn't spread very easily outdoors. Initial reports came from China, so I was a little skeptical. However, several new studies back this up.

However, you have to get to the protests someway, so public transportation and sharing rides *could* have been a transmission vector, victor.

I know of someone in Austin that went to a protest and did get infected. That it was at the protest or going to the protest, however, is undetermined. That it was before or after the protest is undetermined. I just know that people around this person are claiming it was at the protest.
 
2020-07-03 5:29:46 PM  
white supremacy much submitter? why is fark posting this crap?
 
2020-07-03 5:31:03 PM  

Tuolumne_Dove: white supremacy much submitter? why is fark posting this crap?


Because Both Sides derpderpherpderp.
 
2020-07-03 5:37:59 PM  
It's this the thread where Republican morons pretend that changing your mind based on evidence is a bad thing while simultaneously telling us how smart and reasonable they are?
 
2020-07-03 5:39:09 PM  
I am certain that people who attended protests contracted covid.  The conditions were just too good for no transmission to occur.  It would be an enormous discovery if absolutely nobody caught it.

In most cases, the rate of transmission seems to have been no higher than the existing background level - i.e. it wasn't a super-spreading event, the number who contracted it was proportional to the number infected in the area, and, well, in places that were open, 10,000 protesters can't move the needle when 500,000 people are going to work and the shops and the gym and restaurants and so on.
 
2020-07-03 5:39:53 PM  
This website blows.
 
2020-07-03 5:43:17 PM  
I am sure there was some spread, but why not NY? NJ? they had large protests as well.

It would seem the disease is spreading in areas where there were not that many large protests.

We Distort. You Decide
 
2020-07-03 5:43:25 PM  

Lusiphur: It's this the thread where Republican morons pretend that changing your mind based on evidence is a bad thing while simultaneously telling us how smart and reasonable they are?


Either gatherings of thousands spread the virus or it doesn't.  The virus does not care whether you vote with your heart or your head.
 
2020-07-03 5:45:03 PM  

Tuolumne_Dove: white supremacy much submitter? why is fark posting this crap?


MAH ECHO CHAMBER NOT ECHOIN'!!!
 
2020-07-03 5:45:08 PM  

born_yesterday: common sense is an oxymoron: There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"

There's no evidence yet that the protests led to much spread"


Easy there you're going to poop on subbys parade.
 
2020-07-03 5:45:41 PM  
This is explains why Mississippi, Oklahoma, Florida, and Texas are exploding all over their states. Those state-wide protests.
 
2020-07-03 5:46:19 PM  
Chicago had demonstrations as large and as packed as anywhere. 
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2020-07-03 5:48:29 PM  

bizzwire: If I was the head of a metropolitan police force that was struggling with police brutality and racism,  the first thing I would do is contact the most vocal (not exactly the word I'm looking for, but bear with me) of the activists, sit down over a drink, and say "y'know, you're right; Basically, the wrong people are becoming cops.  I urge you and all citizens concerned about our culture of racism to consider applying to the academy.'


Simple "solutions" for simple people.
 
2020-07-03 5:49:16 PM  
I would like everyone to note:

Comments on article shut down lol.

Can't figure out why... Any help?
 
2020-07-03 5:49:21 PM  
I see the usual Lardass defenders have shown up.
 
2020-07-03 5:52:50 PM  
Valacirca.Simple "solutions" for simple people.

I'm open to alternatives.  Whadda you have to offer?
 
2020-07-03 5:55:14 PM  
Most of the protesters I saw wore masks which has a massive effect on infection rates. They were also outside which is significantly safer than being inside. The people trying to treat the protests as some sort of proof the virus isn't serious are just conservative clowns who don't understand the real world.
 
2020-07-03 5:57:33 PM  

desertratt: Lusiphur: It's this the thread where Republican morons pretend that changing your mind based on evidence is a bad thing while simultaneously telling us how smart and reasonable they are?

Either gatherings of thousands spread the virus or it doesn't.  The virus does not care whether you vote with your heart or your head.


Gee I wonder what might account for differences in the number of infections. So, so difficult to determine. Just unfathomable.

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2020-07-03 5:57:47 PM  
Wow, I guess those protests in huge cities where covid cases are going down never happened
 
2020-07-03 6:02:58 PM  
This explains why the biggest spike in COVID-19 cases is in Minnesota where most of the protesting took place.

Oh wait...
 
2020-07-03 6:03:28 PM  

desertratt: Lusiphur: It's this the thread where Republican morons pretend that changing your mind based on evidence is a bad thing while simultaneously telling us how smart and reasonable they are?

Either gatherings of thousands spread the virus or it doesn't.  The virus does not care whether you vote with your heart or your head.


Except that's not how it works, because "gatherings of thousands" aren't all the same. A "gathering of thanks" where everyone wears masks and keeps 6' of distance is significantly different than one where people don't. You'd think a party that won't shut up about common sense would be smart enough to figure that out. Guess not.
 
2020-07-03 6:08:58 PM  
Anyone who thought that these protests wouldn't contribute to the spread was an idiot. Yes, A LOT of people were wearing masks, but all weren't. A lot of people tried to social distance, but all didn't. It was obvious to anyone watching that protests like that would include infected people spreading the virus to non-infected people.

This is yet another one of those things that became a political discussion and all manner of common sense and logic disappeared.

Cases increased from the protests. Certainly not to the level they would have if nobody had worn masks, but also above the level they would have if there hadn't been any protests.
 
2020-07-03 6:10:33 PM  
This will be the fundamental talking point for conservatives. Rather than blaming the refusal of 'them' and their cult to follow masking and social distancing practices and displaying an imperative to reopen as soon as possible...

they are going to blame it on all the BLM protesters, et cetera...

and of course their cult will eat it up as gospel and just digging harder now that they have someone else to blame...
 
2020-07-03 6:13:38 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Anyone who thought that these protests wouldn't contribute to the spread was an idiot. Yes, A LOT of people were wearing masks, but all weren't. A lot of people tried to social distance, but all didn't. It was obvious to anyone watching that protests like that would include infected people spreading the virus to non-infected people.

This is yet another one of those things that became a political discussion and all manner of common sense and logic disappeared.

Cases increased from the protests. Certainly not to the level they would have if nobody had worn masks, but also above the level they would have if there hadn't been any protests.


I think it had an impact but people on the right are exaggerating the extent of that impact. Otherwise why isn't Minnesota seeing a surge in cases similar to states in the South

People protesting in the street are a small number compared to the people who go to bars and restaurants without a mask on.

People got too complacent and we're all facing the consequences of it. This current spike would have still happened without the protests.
 
2020-07-03 6:15:05 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Anyone who thought that these protests wouldn't contribute to the spread was an idiot. Yes, A LOT of people were wearing masks, but all weren't. A lot of people tried to social distance, but all didn't. It was obvious to anyone watching that protests like that would include infected people spreading the virus to non-infected people.

This is yet another one of those things that became a political discussion and all manner of common sense and logic disappeared.

Cases increased from the protests. Certainly not to the level they would have if nobody had worn masks, but also above the level they would have if there hadn't been any protests.


Hi, subby. Why are the numbers in NYC not reflecting your common-sense hypothesis?
 
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