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2020-07-03 9:58:11 AM  
20 votes:
Well maybe if wages weren't stagnant and houses and apartments weren't overpriced, we all be living on our own. But since the government refuses to do anything to help the situration (beyond giving money to the companies that caused it).
 
2020-07-03 11:13:53 AM  
19 votes:

Chief Superintendent Lookout: Multi-generational houses are the norm in many societies around the globe.  They were the norm in the US until after WWII.  It was during the decades of the 1950s through the 2000s when "still lives with parents" was seen as a social ill or someone incapable of being responsible/independent.


"Still lives with parents" was seen as a social ill, because after the rationing of WWII was over, and there was no longer a war which required a massive manufacturing industry operating 24 hours a day churning out supplies and equipment, industry did a marketing push to convince society that they needed to buy, buy, buy.

Buy a house, buy a wedding, buy a car, have 2.5 kids, and buy a dog and a cat, and buy a white picket fence and buy all the latest home improvements to "keep up with the Johnsons." Just buy and keep buying, and keep buying more. Buy a new TV! Buy a second car for the wife! Success is measured in how much you can buy! Don't have enough? Get a raise! Climb that corporate ladder! Not enough? Get a credit card! Go into debt! Debt is good! it shows you can afford to buy!

Are you still living at home? Clearly you're just lazy and don't want to do your part! Get to work you deadbeat! BUY BUY BUY!

And that sort of thing actually could work without it being that much of a burden, back when there was still enough money in the economy to keep it running. Back when the rich paid their fair share of taxes, and workers could have a career which actually provided a living wage.

But that all fell apart under Ronald Reagan. When careers became jobs, employees became "assets" and rich people fobbed their share of the tax burden off onto the working poor. And it's been getting worse ever since.
 
2020-07-03 10:41:50 AM  
14 votes:
Multi generational living is the norm throughout history.  The wasteful way Americans live is the oddity.  The pendulum is swinging back.
 
2020-07-03 10:35:17 AM  
12 votes:

edmo: For those whose parents have done better, they don't have to do this. One good friend sold his Tampa house to his daughter at a big discount and his son lives in his other old house in Virginia, paying rent/mortgage. Meanwhile, friend lives in his retirement place in Florida.

Summary: because the parents did well, the college educated, well-paid working kids get the benefit of reasonably priced housing they can actually afford.


Reminds me of those articles "I had 120k in student loans and I paid it off in 4 years!"
They were given a house, and rented it out and moved into grandmothers house.
 
2020-07-03 10:43:33 AM  
11 votes:
Moving in with your parents is often seen as a mark of irresponsibility. The pandemic might show the country that it shouldn't be.

I've been saying this for years, but most of the replies on fark tell me it is vitally important to kick children out and keep them out. Something about their kids being too damn stupid to learn responsibility without sink or swim tactics is the usual explanation.

Then in other threads you see the same folks complaining about landlords, housing costs, personal debt, etc. My favorite is when you then click their profile and they've got up a map of how they've traveled the globe taking international vacations every year.

Gee, I wonder where your money went...
 
2020-07-03 10:41:49 AM  
11 votes:
Multi-generational houses are the norm in many societies around the globe.  They were the norm in the US until after WWII.  It was during the decades of the 1950s through the 2000s when "still lives with parents" was seen as a social ill or someone incapable of being responsible/independent.
 
2020-07-03 11:48:36 AM  
9 votes:

p51d007: So these "kids" don't have a job (that they want or had).  Does that mean they should just lay around
all day watching tv, spending money on an "electronic drum set", snacking, playing video games?
How about going to look for ANOTHER JOB.  I see help wanted signs all over the place.  I guess they
are too proud to take a "minimum wage" job or the like?  Who says they have to stay at that job?
Just take it to make yourself productive and useful, and give yourself some respect.  But, with unemployment
benefits if any, it's more $$ rewarding to NOT work, than to work in some cases.


Not everyone should have to work. Not everyone should have to work 40 hours a week.

Most people want to be productive.  If people could support themselves without being a serf to their corporate masters, society would be better as a whole.

A lot of stuff that is low financial value but high social value would be given more emphasis.  Most people would be happier.
 
2020-07-03 10:45:05 AM  
9 votes:
I love my parents dearly.  They're great people, I talk to them in the regular, and visit when I can (which isn't often as of late, thanks to the 'rona.

I'd rather live in a box than move back in with them.  Dad and I are both just to particular about how we want things done to coexist under one roof.
 
2020-07-03 11:06:39 AM  
8 votes:

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: tjsands1118: Well maybe if wages weren't stagnant and houses and apartments weren't overpriced, we all be living on our own. But since the government refuses to do anything to help the situration (beyond giving money to the companies that caused it).

Some people have been trying to reduce immigration which increases demand for housing (raising prices) and floods the labor market (reducing wages). Other people get grouchy if you bring it up.


Americans won't do the job.

You want lettuce, you need immigrants.

The people here are soft snowflakes.
 
2020-07-03 10:39:09 AM  
8 votes:
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2020-07-03 10:13:25 AM  
8 votes:
For those whose parents have done better, they don't have to do this. One good friend sold his Tampa house to his daughter at a big discount and his son lives in his other old house in Virginia, paying rent/mortgage. Meanwhile, friend lives in his retirement place in Florida.

Summary: because the parents did well, the college educated, well-paid working kids get the benefit of reasonably priced housing they can actually afford.
 
2020-07-03 12:21:05 PM  
7 votes:
My oldest just turned 18.  He is going to be living "at home" for a while.  No job hunting or moving out during a pandemic.

That said, I have told all my kids that if they want to leave home, explore the world, go to college or trade school, get a job, move out, etc, I won't stop them.  Explore life.  If they soar, I will cheer them on.  If they crash and burn, they will always have a home here.

As an aside, my son also lives in his own camper on property and both my daughters want to "move out" in their own campers when they turn 16.  Good kids with good heads on their shoulders and my sarcasm.  But they still have to do their chores.

I realize our set up and situation is not the same as everyone else, but the "18 and 30" I've heard people talk about (not here) never made sense to me.  30 days to move out or start paying rent now that you are 18?  I don't get it.  It makes even less sense during a global health crisis.
 
2020-07-03 11:31:06 AM  
4 votes:
Due to housing prices & an economy that's sh*tting the bed, I've resigned myself to the fact that my 20-something offspring will be living here for a while.
I know some butch-lords say I should throw them out into the streets but butch-lords are big on grandiose threats & macho posturing - you know, assholes.
 
2020-07-03 2:11:25 PM  
3 votes:
I wanted to read this with an open mind and feel for the "kids" dilemmas, I really did.  But then the article started talking about the 30 year old that was looking forward to moving back in and having a dish washer and washer / drier.  That was cringe inducing.

Then there was the 22 year old who moved back in and decided he wanted to learn how to play the drums......so he got a drum set even through he acknowledged it's loud and disturbs people.  What an asshole.

Then I got to Chrissy cooking stuff at midnight and read this sentence: ""The sentiment was like, 'You're our kid in our house; these are our rules,' and it, to me, was like, 'Well, I'm not a kid, and I didn't really ask to be in your house right now.'"  Wow.  Little entitled biatch.

That was the end of the reading, couldn't take any more.  fark the lot of them.
 
2020-07-03 11:21:39 AM  
2 votes:

bloobeary: Buy a house, buy a wedding, buy a car, have 2.5 kids, and buy a dog and a cat, and buy a white picket fence and buy all the latest home improvements to "keep up with the Johnsons." Just buy and keep buying, and keep buying more. Buy a new TV! Buy a second car for the wife! Success is measured in how much you can buy! Don't have enough? Get a raise! Climb that corporate ladder! Not enough? Get a credit card! Go into debt! Debt is good! it shows you can afford to buy!


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2020-07-03 11:19:01 AM  
2 votes:
So these "kids" don't have a job (that they want or had).  Does that mean they should just lay around
all day watching tv, spending money on an "electronic drum set", snacking, playing video games?
How about going to look for ANOTHER JOB.  I see help wanted signs all over the place.  I guess they
are too proud to take a "minimum wage" job or the like?  Who says they have to stay at that job?
Just take it to make yourself productive and useful, and give yourself some respect.  But, with unemployment
benefits if any, it's more $$ rewarding to NOT work, than to work in some cases.
 
2020-07-03 11:00:58 AM  
2 votes:

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: tjsands1118: Well maybe if wages weren't stagnant and houses and apartments weren't overpriced, we all be living on our own. But since the government refuses to do anything to help the situration (beyond giving money to the companies that caused it).

Some people have been trying to reduce immigration which increases demand for housing (raising prices) and floods the labor market (reducing wages). Other people get grouchy if you bring it up.


LOL.

The apartment across from has 3 families of Mexicans living in it.
Why don't they have a house.
I call b.s.
And Texas has cheap housing.
250K a 3 bed.
 
2020-07-03 10:45:32 AM  
2 votes:
Not in my parent's place but still slowly being squeezed to death by increasing rent and no raises. I tried to move this year but there's no place you can afford around here on the median salary if you have an ounce of debt, most were bought out by investors because Amazon announced their new headquarters.
 
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