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(WKRG Mobile)   Sucks when boaters ignore SCUBA dive flags because they'll catch more than just fish. "We had a snapper on a spear and myself on a hook"   (wkrg.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Underwater diving, Scuba diving, Hook, Fishing, J.T. Thompson, only boat, nice fish, mild symptoms of decompression sickness  
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3432 clicks; posted to Main » on 02 Jul 2020 at 9:50 PM (21 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-07-03 5:02:10 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: thehobbes: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: KitchenBacon: Wanebo: The dumbass diver doesn't carry a knife?

Did they miss the basic PADI training? Someone reeling you to the surface can cause all kinds of issue.

Diver here.  PADI has nothing about knives.  You are thinking of Underwater Scouts.

what?  It's been 30 years since I got certified and we went over the use of the dive knife.

Dove in cozumel and the DM wouldn't let anyone carry a knife except him.

need to finish my rescue certs....

Put Another Dollar In.

Too many divers think a dive knife is basically a license to f*ck with things they shouldn't be f*cking with.

/ wouldn't trust some of them with pointy objects on land either

what are you babbling about?


I'm not even a diver and I'm familiar with one reason.
 
2020-07-03 5:04:36 AM  

Kelwen: Deveyn: kamikazekitten: Might've been loaded out with Tri. But who knows.

Based on his rig, it doesn't look like it.

In the video he's on a single tank. Maybe it was EANx, I found another article that said he suffered from minor DCS. He's one of the luckiest divers I've ever seen to come up that fast from that deep. Usually those instances end up in the "fatality of the month" articles in dive magazines.

When I was a  kid growing up in Bermuda, my dad was a diver. He had pretty much every certification/qualification you can imagine and told me stories that guaranteed I have never been deeper then a backyard pool.


Deveyn: Kelwen: When I was a kid growing up in Bermuda, my dad was a diver. He had pretty much every certification/qualification you can imagine and told me stories that guaranteed I have never been deeper then a backyard pool.

I'd love to hear some of those stories.

One of my good friends is one of the few "Twilight Zone" divers in the world. He's a farking maniac. Same guy who discovered and named a fish after Obama. We actually re-discovered the B25 Mitchell wrecks in Kwajalein back in 2011 when I was visiting for a few weeks on my way back to the US.

He's been trying to get me on a rebreather for a while but the expense and maintenance just isn't worth it for the kind of diving I do. It's mostly ND, but I do a fair amount of deco diving if I'm trying to get photos of something beyond rec limits. My camera gear is only good to about 300fsw, so going Tech would require a significant reinvestment.


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2020-07-03 5:46:24 AM  

Murflette: Wanebo: The dumbass diver doesn't carry a knife?

Did they miss the basic PADI training? Someone reeling you to the surface can cause all kinds of issue.

And the boat was gone when they got to the surface?

Yeah this whole story is bs


Eh.  Over the years I've run into incredibly dumb fishermen and lobster guys.  Nothing they do would surprise me.

Fishing in a busy channel?  No, I'm not sorry my line-cutting gear took out your expensive gear; I didn't want to try to unwrap your shiat from my prop while drifting towards the farking rocks.
 
2020-07-03 9:56:20 AM  

Deveyn: Kelwen: When I was a kid growing up in Bermuda, my dad was a diver. He had pretty much every certification/qualification you can imagine and told me stories that guaranteed I have never been deeper then a backyard pool.

I'd love to hear some of those stories.

One of my good friends is one of the few "Twilight Zone" divers in the world. He's a farking maniac. Same guy who discovered and named a fish after Obama. We actually re-discovered the B25 Mitchell wrecks in Kwajalein back in 2011 when I was visiting for a few weeks on my way back to the US.

He's been trying to get me on a rebreather for a while but the expense and maintenance just isn't worth it for the kind of diving I do. It's mostly ND, but I do a fair amount of deco diving if I'm trying to get photos of something beyond rec limits. My camera gear is only good to about 300fsw, so going Tech would require a significant reinvestment.


He passed away a few years ago and ypu can add "not revisiting stories" to the list of my regrets. The few i remember are the night dive that ended up in a whale pod, going up inside a stone chimney that brought him face to face with a grumpy moray eel and more "the bends" stories than i care to recall. He would occasionally work for a friend in the late 70s early 80s and take out tourists. Apparently newly certified divers on vacation can be panicky and irresponsible
 
2020-07-03 10:06:45 AM  

Deveyn: Kelwen: When I was a kid growing up in Bermuda, my dad was a diver. He had pretty much every certification/qualification you can imagine and told me stories that guaranteed I have never been deeper then a backyard pool.

I'd love to hear some of those stories.

One of my good friends is one of the few "Twilight Zone" divers in the world. He's a farking maniac. Same guy who discovered and named a fish after Obama. We actually re-discovered the B25 Mitchell wrecks in Kwajalein back in 2011 when I was visiting for a few weeks on my way back to the US.

He's been trying to get me on a rebreather for a while but the expense and maintenance just isn't worth it for the kind of diving I do. It's mostly ND, but I do a fair amount of deco diving if I'm trying to get photos of something beyond rec limits. My camera gear is only good to about 300fsw, so going Tech would require a significant reinvestment.


An aside to the panicky tourists, and you probably know this since you seem to be highly experienced. He would say the problem was they would get tourists from Canada or the UK on honeymoons who got the certification in pools or off the murky coast. They would get to Bermuda and the clear water and vastness would freak them out to the point of inaction. Not all of them of course, but the ones that did freak, that's what would set them off
 
2020-07-03 10:58:53 AM  
Deveyn:
FTA: in a matter of seconds both were on the surface.

Highly unlikely it was a few seconds. It probably felt like only a few seconds with all the adrenaline of "oh shiat I'm gonna pop" going through your head.


I took that as artistic license on the part of the reporter.

That said, I had a buddy surface at max velocity from around 100ffw on a ND dive. I imagine it was less than 10 seconds. He claims his inflator jammed open; people on the boat said that he significantly cleared the water when he hit the surface. He miraculously avoided serious injury, he was bleeding out of his ears, but no apparent lung damage and no signs of bends (we hadn't been at depth long).

I have my suspicions it was primarily narcosis-panic. We were diving around a wreck in clearish (55ft vis) <5C water. His gear seemed fine when I looked it over later. He was relatively new to diving, and never dove again after that.
 
2020-07-03 1:57:04 PM  

Kelwen: Apparently newly certified divers on vacation can be panicky and irresponsible


So. Much. This. They also want to touch every farking thing they see. I've seen a few panic when they realize there's 15,000 feet of water underneath them and they can see forever.

I stay far away from the big dive spots. I lived in Micronesia for two years and got spoiled there. I can't even deal with regular dive operations. I love going to Yap because it's so out of the way that few people make the effort to get there, but once you go, you kick yourself for not going sooner. They only get a couple thousand divers a year. The resort I go to caters to photographers, and if you don't know how to take pictures, they will teach you how to shoot and edit. It's not that it's hard to get to by United Airlines, it's just a long trip. From LAX you're looking at about a 24 hr travel time. I usually take about 40 hours because I loathe United and their business class is shiat. I can get First on Asiana for the same miles and their lounges are way better in Seoul and Tokyo.

Bajtaur: I have my suspicions it was primarily narcosis-panic. We were diving around a wreck in clearish (55ft vis) <5C water


Probably more a combination of panic and his gear getting gummed up in cold water. N2 narcosis generally hits (if it hits at all) at >33m. A newish diver won't have the reflexes and experience to deal with something like that. Too bad though, because that kind of thing is pretty rare. Most all fatalities and accidents happen because someone does something stupid like dive alone or outside of their limits/training.
 
2020-07-03 3:10:45 PM  
Arrest the fisherman, assault and battery, and confiscate his boat.
 
2020-07-03 3:34:37 PM  
Visibility in Wreck Valley (NY) this morning. Unheard of clarity weeks in a row. Weird.

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