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(AP News)   Confirmed cases are rising in 40 of 50 states. It would probably be more, but math is, as we have seen, rather hard for some states   (apnews.com) divider line
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2020-07-02 6:24:26 PM  
39 votes:
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2020-07-02 6:52:28 PM  
34 votes:
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DONT DEAD

OPEN INSIDE

 
2020-07-02 6:34:11 PM  
17 votes:
Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.
 
2020-07-02 7:52:23 PM  
15 votes:
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2020-07-02 6:46:23 PM  
15 votes:

Charles of York: I blame the turds that support 45


Reminded me of this gem...
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2020-07-02 6:26:11 PM  
15 votes:
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2020-07-02 8:29:14 PM  
11 votes:

Kumana Wanalaia: MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE

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The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!


Lazy shop job, but here you go:

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2020-07-02 7:09:51 PM  
10 votes:
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2020-07-02 7:05:41 PM  
9 votes:

SpockYouOut: pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.


Doesn't matter.  Most states squandered their lockdown by doing it too early, or being overbearing in how they implemented it.
 
2020-07-02 6:53:57 PM  
6 votes:

AsparagusFTW: pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

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SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked

I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.

Blue states were first and got rocked because of highest population density.

The red states had something that blue states did not......more time. More time to prepare, more time to get PPE, more time to be on top of it. It was bad how much we squandered as a nation, but the red states were even dumber for wasting more valuable time, when they had a lens into what was going to happen.

And they did even less.


They also got prematurely locked down, which meant that any future measures will be fought hard.

Most of the country should not have locked down when and how they just because the Northeast was getting hit.
 
2020-07-02 6:22:29 PM  
6 votes:
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2020-07-02 6:19:06 PM  
6 votes:
But our testing is so great that we slowed it down because we are so great and nobody tests as much as we do, and we felt sorry for everyone else and then the tests looked at me.
 
2020-07-03 2:08:13 AM  
4 votes:

skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
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I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.


Left wing authoritarianism is just as scary as right wing... it's for your own good you know.
 
2020-07-03 12:46:59 AM  
4 votes:
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2020-07-03 12:00:40 AM  
4 votes:

Leishu: Kumana Wanalaia: MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE

[Fark user image 673x325]

The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!

Lazy shop job, but here you go:

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2020-07-02 9:30:28 PM  
4 votes:

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.


You still have yet to post any evidence of this "science".
 
2020-07-02 7:42:20 PM  
4 votes:

MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE


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The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!
 
2020-07-02 6:47:02 PM  
4 votes:

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.
 
2020-07-02 6:44:52 PM  
4 votes:

Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.


"Hows your 401K doing?"
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I doubt they have them.
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2020-07-02 6:39:50 PM  
4 votes:
Montana's increase was due to an out-of-state douche. Fark that guy.
 
2020-07-02 10:06:23 PM  
3 votes:

AAAAGGGGHHHH: phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.

Please don't suggest that. Because then these are the masks they'd be putting on:

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Purely in terms of limiting the pandemic, that would be fine (much better than the people wearing a proper surgical mask on their chin).
 
2020-07-02 8:14:53 PM  
3 votes:
It's those hundreds of thousands of people who didn't show up for the Trump rallies.
 
2020-07-02 7:42:38 PM  
3 votes:
The COVID positive rates are going up because not enough people drank bleach, or didn't shove UV lights up their collective asses.

And we're still not fully into summer's hottest weeks. By mid-July, the heat should just make COVID disappear, just like Trump's chances of a second term.
 
2020-07-02 7:24:08 PM  
3 votes:

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.


I can Google all sorts of bullshiat, but it won't smell any better.

It's not a black and white situation, regardless of the cause.
 
2020-07-02 6:53:02 PM  
3 votes:

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


No one has an answer.
 
2020-07-02 6:36:07 PM  
3 votes:

quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.


Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.
 
2020-07-02 6:32:47 PM  
3 votes:

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.
 
2020-07-02 5:49:34 PM  
3 votes:
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2020-07-03 1:55:38 AM  
2 votes:

bobbyjoebobby: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

Because we flattened the curve and prepared the hospitals. Now we cautiously open and monitor the situation until a vaccine/herd immunity kicks in.

Did you think we would stay in lockdown for a year? Our supply chains would collapse. There are some reports that some areas may already be seeing herd immunity. From levels as low as 30%. Did you notice NYC had a huge spike and cases collapse?

Lots of "but I science" folks on Fark who aren't even sciencing. No critical thinking skills.


I have been trying to bring people back to reality for a while... math and stuff is hard for some people.  They can't see that the number of infections is a bullshiat metric, yet it's the only one they rely on.  Not per capita... nor the rate of hospitalizations or deaths per capita.  Nope.  Or that California isn't really that bad compared to other states, it's actually better than average.

But please, do freak out that young people are mostly the ones getting infected and that the cases are minor, not severe.  Actually, as long as they stay away from those how are at greater risk, it's ideal actually for them to get it, develop immunity and stop acting as potential vectors.  It's what sweden tried, but failed to do because they didn't adequately protect their at risk communities fast enough.  It's what we SHOULD have been preparing for during the lockdown, but we didn't.
 
2020-07-03 12:06:55 AM  
2 votes:
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2020-07-02 10:29:59 PM  
2 votes:
I heard on the news earlier that Trump is now ok with masks.  Everything's going to be fine.
 
2020-07-02 8:54:32 PM  
2 votes:

TDWCom29: skyotter: [Fark user image image 769x480]

The funny thing about those graphs, assuming they're accurate, is PA and MI (possibly among others with D governors) are making the red line look better and CA is making the blue look worse

That is to say, solid red states must be farked right now


It remains to be seen if they will get as bad as many of the blue states.
 
2020-07-02 8:45:00 PM  
2 votes:

iron de havilland: Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity

The thing with this pandemic is that it is a pandemic.

We can compare outcomes against how countries have chosen to deal with it.

So, we can see that countries that went the herd immunity route, like Sweden, have had far more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbours, but also similar contraction in its economy.

The US is an entirely different kind of wildcard, altogether, though, since at least most countries have someone in charge of the executive branch of government who at least cares somewhat about what happens to the residents of that nation.

But Trump doesn't take responsibility and still imagines that something magical will happen and the virus will disappear.

/Hillary would have been worse, right?


I'd bet the maskless hoards "listening to Trump" would behave in the same way while "not listening to Hillary."

Perhaps, in the end, there is some misguided logic around ripping off the band-aid, as opposed to bleeding slowly into flu season.
 
2020-07-02 7:28:22 PM  
2 votes:

quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.


Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity
 
2020-07-02 7:21:19 PM  
2 votes:

pedrop357: SpockYouOut: pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.

Doesn't matter.  Most states squandered their lockdown by doing it too early, or being overbearing in how they implemented it.


Bullshiat. States SHOULD have locked down the moment a case was noticed in their state, and the lockdowns should have been much more strict. And at the Federal level, every American should have been paid to stay home since at least March at the latest, with extra hazard pay to essential workers, just for starters.

America half-assed (if I'm being generous) the response to the worst pandemic in a century because we have an ignorant, greasy orange shiatstain in the Oval Office who thought taking basic precautions or preparing for shiat would make him look weak, and because our government is controlled by a party of sociopaths who'd throw us all into meat grinders if Wall Street could make money from it.
 
2020-07-02 7:16:50 PM  
2 votes:

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How does that even happen?
 
2020-07-02 7:12:45 PM  
2 votes:

pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.


Were the beachgoers, reopen protesters and the other entitled jackoffs wearing masks and taking other precautions beyond 'being outside'? Because the BLM protests were mostly masked, and pretty much every one had people going around handing out hand sanitizer.
 
2020-07-02 7:01:03 PM  
2 votes:
pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.
 
2020-07-02 6:57:22 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.


Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.
 
2020-07-02 6:55:16 PM  
2 votes:

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.


Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.
 
2020-07-02 6:50:13 PM  
2 votes:

Yanks_RSJ: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.


Which would suggest the "They're killing grandma" outrage aimed at reopen protesters was very misguided.
 
2020-07-02 6:36:35 PM  
2 votes:
Jesus says: "WEAR A MASK YOU CHUCKLEFARKS!"

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2020-07-02 6:32:38 PM  
2 votes:

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.
 
2020-07-02 6:30:04 PM  
2 votes:

phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.


Please don't suggest that. Because then these are the masks they'd be putting on:

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2020-07-02 6:22:58 PM  
2 votes:

Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!


Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.
 
2020-07-02 6:22:12 PM  
2 votes:
so many people are going to die. it is so sad.
 
2020-07-02 6:20:02 PM  
2 votes:
I blame the turds that support 45
 
2020-07-03 3:22:56 PM  
1 vote:

halotosis: New York hit herd immunity effects some time ago.

That's nonsense right there.  No need to read any further.

We kinda know this because it's been proven the majority of the new cases after lockdown came from people sheltering at home there.  You can't avoid it in a densely packed place like NY, with high rise living, but the positive rate is down to almost where we started....  A lot of what we are seeing is really testing bias, we're seeing what was underneath the tip of the iceberg (serious cases) now.  I know tons of people who have gotten tested in the past two or three weeks and I can't figure out why they got tested.  I guess people are just getting tested for the comfort of it, rather than because they are critically ill.

 
2020-07-03 2:28:33 PM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.


Agreed. It's baloney, you can't exclude nationwide protests from vectoring with any intillectual honesty.
 
2020-07-03 12:29:55 PM  
1 vote:

Tommy Moo: Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?

Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC7151357/


New York hit herd immunity effects some time ago.  We kinda know this because it's been proven the majority of the new cases after lockdown came from people sheltering at home there.  You can't avoid it in a densely packed place like NY, with high rise living, but the positive rate is down to almost where we started....  A lot of what we are seeing is really testing bias, we're seeing what was underneath the tip of the iceberg (serious cases) now.  I know tons of people who have gotten tested in the past two or three weeks and I can't figure out why they got tested.  I guess people are just getting tested for the comfort of it, rather than because they are critically ill.
 
2020-07-03 12:22:36 PM  
1 vote:

Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?


Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC7151357/
 
2020-07-03 12:14:25 PM  
1 vote:

Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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This!!!! I just had a conversation with my neighbor about this exact thing they day before yesterday.  How so many of the cases in the hospital are asymptomatic... I asked her why they were even in the hospital then and she said, broken bones, other regular problems.
 
2020-07-03 11:55:28 AM  
1 vote:

LordJiro: halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.

Telling you to wear a mask during a F*CKING PANDEMIC is not comparable to any of those.


See, you are jerks, this is why I refuse to talk to any of you about things right now.  I have been wearing a mask long before most the rest of you farkers around here (I have blood cancer, dipshiats).  I'm tired of coming here, dealing with this echo chamber of bullshiat.  My neighbor is the nurse who intubates patients at the hospital here in LA, we actually talk about this stuff, like the science of it and stuff.  If you lived here in LA, experienced this insanity the past few months, you'd understand why even she thinks we're going way of the deep end here into authoritarianism.
 
2020-07-03 7:28:09 AM  
1 vote:
Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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2020-07-03 2:32:48 AM  
1 vote:

halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.


Telling you to wear a mask during a F*CKING PANDEMIC is not comparable to any of those.
 
2020-07-03 2:24:23 AM  
1 vote:

halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.


I agree with those things, but why is that being brought up in this thread?
 
2020-07-03 2:23:26 AM  
1 vote:

LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.


That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.
 
2020-07-03 2:15:47 AM  
1 vote:

skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
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I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.


I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.
 
2020-07-03 2:13:39 AM  
1 vote:

halotosis: skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
[Fark user image image 640x449]

I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.

Left wing authoritarianism is just as scary as right wing... it's for your own good you know.


So you're saying the mask orders are scary, just to be clear?

I am generally antiauthoritarian, but somehow I find hundreds of thousands of lives lost to be scarier than inconveniencing some people for a while.
 
2020-07-03 1:18:46 AM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Because we flattened the curve and prepared the hospitals. Now we cautiously open and monitor the situation until a vaccine/herd immunity kicks in.

Did you think we would stay in lockdown for a year? Our supply chains would collapse. There are some reports that some areas may already be seeing herd immunity. From levels as low as 30%. Did you notice NYC had a huge spike and cases collapse?

Lots of "but I science" folks on Fark who aren't even sciencing. No critical thinking skills.
 
2020-07-02 11:48:33 PM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.


You know what? fark you, go do what you want asshole. Don't come crawling to us when you need a ventilator.
 
2020-07-02 10:16:41 PM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish : gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

A simple "come on" - indicating your 'common sense' disbelief - renders all scientific evidence moot. You win. The negroes are the CO-19 vector. BSABSVR. 1488.

Oh nonono. You win now,

you done pulled the race card and I've seen the light. Everyone except african americans and anybody supporting or umdermining them in public protests are vectors.

I know.

that's cute, did you "smart" it all by yourself?


I don't smart or funny my own posts, and thank you.
 
2020-07-02 9:39:54 PM  
1 vote:

pedrop357: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.


It's almost like people protesting against masks and closures are a risk while people wearing masks and protesting against something unrelated aren't doing too bad.

Who would have thought that anti-safety idiots would turn out worse?  It's a real head-scratcher.
 
2020-07-02 9:28:42 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

No one has an answer.


Someone funnied this, but you're right. Yes, there were evil machinations behind this.  Yes, some very powerful people are making a fortune off this. But this more than farked up. This is what Dante whispered about before he drank himself to sleep. These are evil men doing evil things. These are bad, bad, people.

There can be light. There can be balance.  But it has to come from all of us.  We have to try to save this country.  If enough of us care, including the non-sociopathic rich, we can do it.

Russia has us in its grasp. It literally will take a nation to hold Putin back.
 
2020-07-02 9:27:23 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Creating an unprecedented nationwide health emergency to serve as cover for stolen elections is my guess.
 
2020-07-02 8:53:49 PM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.


Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.
 
2020-07-02 8:36:40 PM  
1 vote:
All states seemingly "masks are required, unless you have a reason, we cant ask what that reason is, so masks are not required"

Mental health seems to be the only reason people can not wear masks for the short times they are needed i keep hearing
 
2020-07-02 8:12:01 PM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


It's like it's an objectively true fact that wearing a mask is extremely effective at preventing the spread of airborne diseases or something.

Oh my God! Someone tell the President! We can have this farking virus curb stomped in a month or two!
 
2020-07-02 7:33:14 PM  
1 vote:

LordJiro: pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.

Were the beachgoers, reopen protesters and the other entitled jackoffs wearing masks and taking other precautions beyond 'being outside'? Because the BLM protests were mostly masked, and pretty much every one had people going around handing out hand sanitizer.


Lol, what the fark do you mean by "pretty much every one."

There was all sorts of unsupervised shiat going down... Lol... "Pretty much every one."

These were in multiple cities... Buildings burned to the farking ground!

...Provocateurs and average vandals destroying public and private property... But they made sure to pass the farking sanitizer.
 
2020-07-02 7:32:11 PM  
1 vote:

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.


It's incredible what you can get away with if you wear a farking mask.
 
2020-07-02 7:24:19 PM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

NYC's contact tracers have been told not to ask people if they've attended a protest

De Blasio says coronavirus contact tracers will not ask positive cases if they have attended BLM protests

New York City's coronavirus contact tracers have been instructed not to ask those who test positive for COVID-19 if they have participated in any Black Lives Matter protests, a spokesperson for the mayor's office reported.


New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.
 
2020-07-02 6:56:52 PM  
1 vote:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: The ever more hysterical ranting from the right wing "It's just increased testing!" "The death rate is ackshyually going down!" "People who get hit by a bus have COVID listed on their death certificate." "It only affects old people" as they try to distract from that ever growing pile of dead bodies is almost funny in a way. Cases keep going up up up, deaths keep piling up, but they're going to mine the data until they think they can statsplain the deaths away. Oh, and definitely don't pay attention to all the folks in the "recovered" category that months later after "recovering" can't walk to pick up the post without getting out of breath. Definitely don't pay any attention to that.


Also, they will ignore that all the businesses that were "allowed" to be open weren't making any f$cking money anyways so the probably should have helped they financially to keep their businesses closed.  In they end they will have paid a ransom of lives and will have been no further ahead when it comes to the economy.

Canada's unemployment also went up 8 points but we have a third the number of new cases in Canada as you have in Dallas today.
 
2020-07-02 6:56:22 PM  
1 vote:

proton: I think that part of the problem with the ignorance in this country is you can't see the pandemic.  People walk out their front doors and everything appears normal.  If only there was a way to show people what's going on inside of hospitals.


To be fair, we were hearing this months ago, but also getting a steady stream of idiotic videos of most of the staff dancing around.
 
2020-07-02 6:54:53 PM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

No one has an answer.


Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.
 
2020-07-02 6:54:23 PM  
1 vote:
I think that part of the problem with the ignorance in this country is you can't see the pandemic.  People walk out their front doors and everything appears normal.  If only there was a way to show people what's going on inside of hospitals.
 
2020-07-02 6:48:33 PM  
1 vote:

AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked


I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.
 
2020-07-02 6:46:29 PM  
1 vote:

fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


Come on.
 
2020-07-02 6:44:00 PM  
1 vote:
I'm sure Jack Dake Jr. would disagree.
 
2020-07-02 6:41:26 PM  
1 vote:

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Indeed, that makes sense that all the incredibly rapid increases in reported cases are from only those states where protests happened in....(checks notes).... Florida, Arizona and Texas.
 
2020-07-02 6:40:20 PM  
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Weatherkiss: [i.imgur.com image 498x498] [View Full Size image _x_]


Man, I hope that when I die, enough people want to celebrate my life to dance my coffin to the cemetary...

/dead serious
//that's a symbol of respect
 
2020-07-02 6:38:22 PM  
1 vote:
This is one of the things people should be railing against Facebook for encouraging. Sponsors should be pulling their ads not just for terrorist acts, but for spreading disease and death.
 
2020-07-02 6:32:49 PM  
1 vote:
You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

Fark user imageView Full Size


SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked
 
2020-07-02 6:29:58 PM  
1 vote:
The ever more hysterical ranting from the right wing "It's just increased testing!" "The death rate is ackshyually going down!" "People who get hit by a bus have COVID listed on their death certificate." "It only affects old people" as they try to distract from that ever growing pile of dead bodies is almost funny in a way. Cases keep going up up up, deaths keep piling up, but they're going to mine the data until they think they can statsplain the deaths away. Oh, and definitely don't pay attention to all the folks in the "recovered" category that months later after "recovering" can't walk to pick up the post without getting out of breath. Definitely don't pay any attention to that.
 
2020-07-02 5:59:19 PM  
1 vote:
All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.
 
2020-07-02 5:42:42 PM  
1 vote:
Please Sir, I'm tired of all the winning.
 
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