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2020-07-02 5:13:05 PM  
So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!
 
2020-07-02 5:42:42 PM  
Please Sir, I'm tired of all the winning.
 
2020-07-02 5:49:34 PM  
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2020-07-02 5:56:39 PM  
Yay!  RI is finally doing something right!!!
 
2020-07-02 5:59:19 PM  
All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.
 
2020-07-02 6:17:53 PM  
We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"
 
2020-07-02 6:19:06 PM  
But our testing is so great that we slowed it down because we are so great and nobody tests as much as we do, and we felt sorry for everyone else and then the tests looked at me.
 
2020-07-02 6:19:52 PM  

phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.


The fact that this could work makes me sad.
 
2020-07-02 6:20:02 PM  
I blame the turds that support 45
 
2020-07-02 6:22:12 PM  
so many people are going to die. it is so sad.
 
2020-07-02 6:22:27 PM  
B-b-but it's happy hour at Applebee's!
 
2020-07-02 6:22:29 PM  
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2020-07-02 6:22:58 PM  

Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!


Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.
 
2020-07-02 6:23:26 PM  
How odd that a dozen red states would be the bottom dwellers. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.
 
2020-07-02 6:24:26 PM  
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2020-07-02 6:26:11 PM  
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2020-07-02 6:26:43 PM  
Cases continue to go down in Illinois. And I see a daily proliferation of "Pritzker Sucks" yard signs. Apparently people don't appreciate breathing as much you might think.
 
2020-07-02 6:29:58 PM  
The ever more hysterical ranting from the right wing "It's just increased testing!" "The death rate is ackshyually going down!" "People who get hit by a bus have COVID listed on their death certificate." "It only affects old people" as they try to distract from that ever growing pile of dead bodies is almost funny in a way. Cases keep going up up up, deaths keep piling up, but they're going to mine the data until they think they can statsplain the deaths away. Oh, and definitely don't pay attention to all the folks in the "recovered" category that months later after "recovering" can't walk to pick up the post without getting out of breath. Definitely don't pay any attention to that.
 
2020-07-02 6:30:04 PM  

phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.


Please don't suggest that. Because then these are the masks they'd be putting on:

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2020-07-02 6:31:15 PM  
Oh come on.
 
2020-07-02 6:32:38 PM  

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.
 
2020-07-02 6:32:47 PM  

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.
 
2020-07-02 6:32:49 PM  
You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

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SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked
 
2020-07-02 6:34:11 PM  
Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.
 
2020-07-02 6:36:07 PM  

quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.


Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.
 
2020-07-02 6:36:35 PM  
Jesus says: "WEAR A MASK YOU CHUCKLEFARKS!"

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2020-07-02 6:37:19 PM  

Penguin_named_Nori: Cases continue to go down in Illinois. And I see a daily proliferation of "Pritzker Sucks" yard signs. Apparently people don't appreciate breathing as much you might think.


Yep. I see loads of those around here. I don't know what they think the alternative is. Pritzker was never my top choice for governor but he's handled this very sensibly.
 
2020-07-02 6:38:22 PM  
This is one of the things people should be railing against Facebook for encouraging. Sponsors should be pulling their ads not just for terrorist acts, but for spreading disease and death.
 
2020-07-02 6:39:50 PM  
Montana's increase was due to an out-of-state douche. Fark that guy.
 
2020-07-02 6:40:20 PM  

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Man, I hope that when I die, enough people want to celebrate my life to dance my coffin to the cemetary...

/dead serious
//that's a symbol of respect
 
2020-07-02 6:41:26 PM  

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


Indeed, that makes sense that all the incredibly rapid increases in reported cases are from only those states where protests happened in....(checks notes).... Florida, Arizona and Texas.
 
2020-07-02 6:44:00 PM  
I'm sure Jack Dake Jr. would disagree.
 
2020-07-02 6:44:52 PM  

Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.


"Hows your 401K doing?"
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I doubt they have them.
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2020-07-02 6:46:23 PM  

Charles of York: I blame the turds that support 45


Reminded me of this gem...
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2020-07-02 6:46:29 PM  

fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


Come on.
 
2020-07-02 6:47:02 PM  

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.
 
2020-07-02 6:48:33 PM  

AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

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SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked


I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.
 
2020-07-02 6:48:37 PM  

Alien Robot: Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


...which have shown no correlation to cases going up.  Opening businesses up early and no having mask requirements?  That's what's farked us.
 
2020-07-02 6:50:13 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.


Which would suggest the "They're killing grandma" outrage aimed at reopen protesters was very misguided.
 
2020-07-02 6:51:02 PM  

JRoo: Charles of York: I blame the turds that support 45

Reminded me of this gem...
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I still salute the Farker who came up with this. It's beautiful.
 
2020-07-02 6:51:32 PM  

pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked

I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.


Blue states were first and got rocked because of highest population density.

The red states had something that blue states did not......more time. More time to prepare, more time to get PPE, more time to be on top of it. It was bad how much we squandered as a nation, but the red states were even dumber for wasting more valuable time, when they had a lens into what was going to happen.

And they did even less.
 
2020-07-02 6:52:28 PM  
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DONT DEAD

OPEN INSIDE

 
2020-07-02 6:53:02 PM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


No one has an answer.
 
2020-07-02 6:53:57 PM  

AsparagusFTW: pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked

I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.

Blue states were first and got rocked because of highest population density.

The red states had something that blue states did not......more time. More time to prepare, more time to get PPE, more time to be on top of it. It was bad how much we squandered as a nation, but the red states were even dumber for wasting more valuable time, when they had a lens into what was going to happen.

And they did even less.


They also got prematurely locked down, which meant that any future measures will be fought hard.

Most of the country should not have locked down when and how they just because the Northeast was getting hit.
 
2020-07-02 6:54:23 PM  
I think that part of the problem with the ignorance in this country is you can't see the pandemic.  People walk out their front doors and everything appears normal.  If only there was a way to show people what's going on inside of hospitals.
 
2020-07-02 6:54:53 PM  

Mugato: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

No one has an answer.


Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.
 
2020-07-02 6:55:16 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.


Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.
 
2020-07-02 6:56:11 PM  

Mugato: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

No one has an answer.


$$

That was easy.
 
2020-07-02 6:56:22 PM  

proton: I think that part of the problem with the ignorance in this country is you can't see the pandemic.  People walk out their front doors and everything appears normal.  If only there was a way to show people what's going on inside of hospitals.


To be fair, we were hearing this months ago, but also getting a steady stream of idiotic videos of most of the staff dancing around.
 
2020-07-02 6:56:52 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: The ever more hysterical ranting from the right wing "It's just increased testing!" "The death rate is ackshyually going down!" "People who get hit by a bus have COVID listed on their death certificate." "It only affects old people" as they try to distract from that ever growing pile of dead bodies is almost funny in a way. Cases keep going up up up, deaths keep piling up, but they're going to mine the data until they think they can statsplain the deaths away. Oh, and definitely don't pay attention to all the folks in the "recovered" category that months later after "recovering" can't walk to pick up the post without getting out of breath. Definitely don't pay any attention to that.


Also, they will ignore that all the businesses that were "allowed" to be open weren't making any f$cking money anyways so the probably should have helped they financially to keep their businesses closed.  In they end they will have paid a ransom of lives and will have been no further ahead when it comes to the economy.

Canada's unemployment also went up 8 points but we have a third the number of new cases in Canada as you have in Dallas today.
 
2020-07-02 6:57:22 PM  

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.


Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.
 
2020-07-02 7:01:03 PM  
pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.
 
2020-07-02 7:03:23 PM  

Walker: Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.

"Hows your 401K doing?"
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I doubt they have them.
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2020-07-02 7:05:36 PM  

PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm:

$$

That was easy.


pedrop357: Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.


Yeah, those are the real answers but I was asking for what the bullshiat given answers are, like if you were to ask a mouthpiece, why are we re-opening everything when everything is worse than when we closed.
 
2020-07-02 7:05:41 PM  

SpockYouOut: pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.


Doesn't matter.  Most states squandered their lockdown by doing it too early, or being overbearing in how they implemented it.
 
2020-07-02 7:07:29 PM  
I really think, in a way, New York got "lucky". By that I mean all us people outside the city. The city exploded so fast and so badly, they locked down the state before it got really bad upstate. We benefited in being shut down at a time when, in hindsight, they should have shut down the city weeks before.

So for example, even in Albany, not THAT far from the metro area, virus infection rate in the general population only ever got to about 2% (compared to antibody sampling indicating NYC is more like 20%). Since then, it does appear that in general we are just better at maintaining distance and wearing masks in public.

Outside of Walmart, I mean. Fark that place and fark all those people.
 
2020-07-02 7:09:20 PM  

Mugato: PleaseHamletDon'tHurtEm:

$$

That was easy.

pedrop357: Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Yeah, those are the real answers but I was asking for what the bullshiat given answers are, like if you were to ask a mouthpiece, why are we re-opening everything when everything is worse than when we closed.


Ohhh.  It's been a long day.  Well, I've gotten "You can't live in fear dur hur!" fairly often.
 
2020-07-02 7:09:51 PM  
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2020-07-02 7:12:45 PM  

pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.


Were the beachgoers, reopen protesters and the other entitled jackoffs wearing masks and taking other precautions beyond 'being outside'? Because the BLM protests were mostly masked, and pretty much every one had people going around handing out hand sanitizer.
 
2020-07-02 7:14:50 PM  

pedrop357: Yanks_RSJ: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.

Which would suggest the "They're killing grandma" outrage aimed at reopen protesters was very misguided.


Reopenings are why the virus is surging across the country.  The argument against those protests was largely because we all knew that would happen, particularly in places where not wearing masks is a declaration of your freedumb.
 
2020-07-02 7:16:50 PM  

blatz514: [Fark user image image 313x228]


How does that even happen?
 
2020-07-02 7:18:31 PM  

sozelle: blatz514: [Fark user image image 313x228]

How does that even happen?


Alcohol.
 
2020-07-02 7:18:47 PM  

fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


NYC's contact tracers have been told not to ask people if they've attended a protest

De Blasio says coronavirus contact tracers will not ask positive cases if they have attended BLM protests

New York City's coronavirus contact tracers have been instructed not to ask those who test positive for COVID-19 if they have participated in any Black Lives Matter protests, a spokesperson for the mayor's office reported.
 
2020-07-02 7:18:52 PM  

skyotter: [Fark user image 769x480]


So...BSAB?
 
2020-07-02 7:21:19 PM  

pedrop357: SpockYouOut: pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.

Doesn't matter.  Most states squandered their lockdown by doing it too early, or being overbearing in how they implemented it.


Bullshiat. States SHOULD have locked down the moment a case was noticed in their state, and the lockdowns should have been much more strict. And at the Federal level, every American should have been paid to stay home since at least March at the latest, with extra hazard pay to essential workers, just for starters.

America half-assed (if I'm being generous) the response to the worst pandemic in a century because we have an ignorant, greasy orange shiatstain in the Oval Office who thought taking basic precautions or preparing for shiat would make him look weak, and because our government is controlled by a party of sociopaths who'd throw us all into meat grinders if Wall Street could make money from it.
 
2020-07-02 7:22:54 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.


A simple "come on" - indicating your 'common sense' disbelief - renders all scientific evidence moot. You win. The negroes are the CO-19 vector. BSABSVR. 1488.
 
2020-07-02 7:23:36 PM  

LordJiro: pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.

Were the beachgoers, reopen protesters and the other entitled jackoffs wearing masks and taking other precautions beyond 'being outside'? Because the BLM protests were mostly masked, and pretty much every one had people going around handing out hand sanitizer.


Yes.
 
2020-07-02 7:24:08 PM  

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.


I can Google all sorts of bullshiat, but it won't smell any better.

It's not a black and white situation, regardless of the cause.
 
2020-07-02 7:24:19 PM  

Alien Robot: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

NYC's contact tracers have been told not to ask people if they've attended a protest

De Blasio says coronavirus contact tracers will not ask positive cases if they have attended BLM protests

New York City's coronavirus contact tracers have been instructed not to ask those who test positive for COVID-19 if they have participated in any Black Lives Matter protests, a spokesperson for the mayor's office reported.


New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.
 
2020-07-02 7:27:52 PM  

Alien Robot: NYC's contact tracers have been told not to ask people if they've attended a protest

De Blasio says coronavirus contact tracers will not ask positive cases if they have attended BLM protests

New York City's coronavirus contact tracers have been instructed not to ask those who test positive for COVID-19 if they have participated in any Black Lives Matter protests, a spokesperson for the mayor's office reported.


When did NYC become your proxy for the country?  You're not paying attention, and your arguments are getting worse and worse.  This is like the tenth thread this week I've seen you stumble and shiat your own pants trying to rabidly make a bad argument.
 
2020-07-02 7:28:19 PM  
• Daily new hospitalizations
• Daily new deaths

These are the "high damage" indicators. As long as they're declining, things are moving in the right direction. Some people can get the rona and shrug it off, others receive the beatdown, so new cases by itself doesn't tell the whole story.
 
2020-07-02 7:28:22 PM  

quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.


Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity
 
2020-07-02 7:32:11 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.


It's incredible what you can get away with if you wear a farking mask.
 
2020-07-02 7:33:14 PM  

LordJiro: pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.

Were the beachgoers, reopen protesters and the other entitled jackoffs wearing masks and taking other precautions beyond 'being outside'? Because the BLM protests were mostly masked, and pretty much every one had people going around handing out hand sanitizer.


Lol, what the fark do you mean by "pretty much every one."

There was all sorts of unsupervised shiat going down... Lol... "Pretty much every one."

These were in multiple cities... Buildings burned to the farking ground!

...Provocateurs and average vandals destroying public and private property... But they made sure to pass the farking sanitizer.
 
2020-07-02 7:36:16 PM  

gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

A simple "come on" - indicating your 'common sense' disbelief - renders all scientific evidence moot. You win. The negroes are the CO-19 vector. BSABSVR. 1488.


Oh nonono. You win now,

you done pulled the race card and I've seen the light. Everyone except african americans and anybody supporting or umdermining them in public protests are vectors.
 
2020-07-02 7:38:25 PM  

Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity


See the reason this has no votes is because no one really understands what your point is...
 
2020-07-02 7:38:56 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.

Please don't suggest that. Because then these are the masks they'd be putting on:

[i.pinimg.com image 850x478]


Would be????
Aren't there already confirmed cases of people going out in KKK hoods for things like groceries?
 
2020-07-02 7:40:04 PM  

pedrop357: They also got prematurely locked down, which meant that any future measures will be fought hard.

Most of the country should not have locked down when and how they just because the Northeast was getting hit.


It's all about timing.  When BC, Ontario and Quebec were getting hit hard, Alberta (Canada's Texas) went on full-lockdown.  Now there f$cked because they are getting 50 new cases a day and had 1 death.

Apparently, I mean according to you, if they would have been smart like Texas, they would have let the virus spread through-out the Province before imposing lockdown measures.
 
2020-07-02 7:42:20 PM  

MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE


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The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!
 
2020-07-02 7:42:38 PM  
The COVID positive rates are going up because not enough people drank bleach, or didn't shove UV lights up their collective asses.

And we're still not fully into summer's hottest weeks. By mid-July, the heat should just make COVID disappear, just like Trump's chances of a second term.
 
2020-07-02 7:43:20 PM  

SpockYouOut: pedrop357:

Because people were only going to tolerate a shutdown for so long.

Coronavirus liked this post.


More succinct than my reply.  He is true to form.  He was arguing to reopen rural States back in March.  I think he thinks the virus cares for good Ol' clean living country folk but hates dirty city folk.  I tried to explain to him how that made no sense.  I tried very hard but he put me on ignore.
 
2020-07-02 7:43:57 PM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Trump is actively trying to kill people because his poll numbers are down.
 
2020-07-02 7:49:12 PM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


They have a schedule, that is all
 
2020-07-02 7:52:23 PM  
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2020-07-02 7:57:13 PM  
It's a great time to be an ideologue... opening up schools and universities with a fervor and ignoring all evidence that it is going to blow up in people's faces.  So many people hurt... and most of them are brown or darker.  Hot diggity.
 
2020-07-02 7:58:03 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: Oh nonono. You win now


I know.
 
2020-07-02 8:04:34 PM  

pounddawg: We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"


I too had some one tell me this virus was fake and it would all disappear in November after the election.  I didn't even know what to say.
 
2020-07-02 8:06:24 PM  

pounddawg: We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"


Problem is Murica is farking it up for the rest of the world too.
 
2020-07-02 8:10:54 PM  

skyotter: [Fark user image 769x480]


I'd like to see that normalized for population in each category.  I think there are more people in the 2016 red states than the blue ones.
 
2020-07-02 8:12:01 PM  

fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


It's like it's an objectively true fact that wearing a mask is extremely effective at preventing the spread of airborne diseases or something.

Oh my God! Someone tell the President! We can have this farking virus curb stomped in a month or two!
 
2020-07-02 8:14:53 PM  
It's those hundreds of thousands of people who didn't show up for the Trump rallies.
 
2020-07-02 8:19:22 PM  

pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked

I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.

Blue states were first and got rocked because of highest population density.

The red states had something that blue states did not......more time. More time to prepare, more time to get PPE, more time to be on top of it. It was bad how much we squandered as a nation, but the red states were even dumber for wasting more valuable time, when they had a lens into what was going to happen.

And they did even less.


They also got prematurely locked down, which meant that any future measures will be fought hard.


You're not making a good argument for red staters having any modicum of intelligence here.
 
2020-07-02 8:23:09 PM  
fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.


The science is already in on this.
 
2020-07-02 8:23:18 PM  

skyotter: [Fark user image image 769x480]


The funny thing about those graphs, assuming they're accurate, is PA and MI (possibly among others with D governors) are making the red line look better and CA is making the blue look worse

That is to say, solid red states must be farked right now
 
2020-07-02 8:23:28 PM  

Penguin_named_Nori: Cases continue to go down in Illinois. And I see a daily proliferation of "Pritzker Sucks" yard signs. Apparently people don't appreciate breathing as much you might think.


Ran into a guy outside my apartment yesterday who's apparently using his quarantine downtime to stand on a corner with no mask and a handmade sign calling our governor a "weak tyrant" for not immediately reopening the entirety of the Washington economy.

We've got a couple of generations now of people who, when their principles hit reality, demand that reality move.
 
2020-07-02 8:26:01 PM  

LiberalConservative: pounddawg: We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"

Problem is Murica is farking it up for the rest of the world too.


We're not talking just about the virus anymore are we?
 
2020-07-02 8:29:14 PM  

Kumana Wanalaia: MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE

[Fark user image 673x325]

The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!


Lazy shop job, but here you go:

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-07-02 8:29:56 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.


damn, I was trying to cross-post that here

Experts predict the July 4 weekend will see a bunch of morons packing public places and exacerbating the spread of Coronavirus because no one can farking stay put
 
2020-07-02 8:31:52 PM  

Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity


The thing with this pandemic is that it is a pandemic.

We can compare outcomes against how countries have chosen to deal with it.

So, we can see that countries that went the herd immunity route, like Sweden, have had far more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbours, but also similar contraction in its economy.

The US is an entirely different kind of wildcard, altogether, though, since at least most countries have someone in charge of the executive branch of government who at least cares somewhat about what happens to the residents of that nation.

But Trump doesn't take responsibility and still imagines that something magical will happen and the virus will disappear.

/Hillary would have been worse, right?
 
2020-07-02 8:36:27 PM  
gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish : gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

A simple "come on" - indicating your 'common sense' disbelief - renders all scientific evidence moot. You win. The negroes are the CO-19 vector. BSABSVR. 1488.

Oh nonono. You win now,

you done pulled the race card and I've seen the light. Everyone except african americans and anybody supporting or umdermining them in public protests are vectors.

I know.


that's cute, did you "smart" it all by yourself?
 
2020-07-02 8:36:40 PM  
All states seemingly "masks are required, unless you have a reason, we cant ask what that reason is, so masks are not required"

Mental health seems to be the only reason people can not wear masks for the short times they are needed i keep hearing
 
2020-07-02 8:45:00 PM  

iron de havilland: Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity

The thing with this pandemic is that it is a pandemic.

We can compare outcomes against how countries have chosen to deal with it.

So, we can see that countries that went the herd immunity route, like Sweden, have had far more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbours, but also similar contraction in its economy.

The US is an entirely different kind of wildcard, altogether, though, since at least most countries have someone in charge of the executive branch of government who at least cares somewhat about what happens to the residents of that nation.

But Trump doesn't take responsibility and still imagines that something magical will happen and the virus will disappear.

/Hillary would have been worse, right?


I'd bet the maskless hoards "listening to Trump" would behave in the same way while "not listening to Hillary."

Perhaps, in the end, there is some misguided logic around ripping off the band-aid, as opposed to bleeding slowly into flu season.
 
2020-07-02 8:45:54 PM  

SpaceyCat: Yay!  RI is finally doing something right!!!


That

And chowdah
 
2020-07-02 8:53:49 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.


Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.
 
2020-07-02 8:54:32 PM  

TDWCom29: skyotter: [Fark user image image 769x480]

The funny thing about those graphs, assuming they're accurate, is PA and MI (possibly among others with D governors) are making the red line look better and CA is making the blue look worse

That is to say, solid red states must be farked right now


It remains to be seen if they will get as bad as many of the blue states.
 
2020-07-02 8:56:22 PM  

orderandchaos: iron de havilland: Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity

The thing with this pandemic is that it is a pandemic.

We can compare outcomes against how countries have chosen to deal with it.

So, we can see that countries that went the herd immunity route, like Sweden, have had far more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbours, but also similar contraction in its economy.

The US is an entirely different kind of wildcard, altogether, though, since at least most countries have someone in charge of the executive branch of government who at least cares somewhat about what happens to the residents of that nation.

But Trump doesn't take responsibility and still imagines that something magical will happen and the virus will disappear.

/Hillary would have been worse, right?

I'd bet the maskless hoards "listening to Trump" would behave in the same way while "not listening to Hillary."


I don't think so, personally.

Hillary would have taken responsibility. She would not have tried to undermine state governments that were trying to limit the spread of the virus.

Perhaps, in the end, there is some misguided logic around ripping off the band-aid, as opposed to bleeding slowly into flu season.

Again, the great thing about the internet is that it's easy to compare data from different nations easily. And we can all see how countries that did nothing are faring as well, economically, as countries that tried to limit the spread of COVID, except they have far more deaths to deal with.
 
2020-07-02 9:00:47 PM  

pedrop357: TDWCom29: skyotter: [Fark user image image 769x480]

The funny thing about those graphs, assuming they're accurate, is PA and MI (possibly among others with D governors) are making the red line look better and CA is making the blue look worse

That is to say, solid red states must be farked right now

It remains to be seen if they will get as bad as many of the blue states.


Did you miss the story about Herman Cain being infected at Trump's Tulsa shiatshow?

I mean, the fact that the attendance was so low just makes the schadenfreude all the sweeter.
 
2020-07-02 9:02:11 PM  
The problem, as has been explained so many f'king times here, is leadership. Had the US gone after the virus as ONE COUNTRY, we would likely not be seeing what we are seeing now. Went from what should have been a national effort to "Handle it states", which became "Handle it counties", which became "Handle it cities and towns", and is now "F'k everybody you're on your own".

We are playing f'king whack a mole with this virus, and it could have been made much more brief if EVERYTHING had been shut down within a month of the first diagnosed case back on January 20th, at least by the end of February. As it was there were a bajillion kinda sorta half-assed shutdowns which didn't work simply because when one place was shut down and one wasn't the assholes that were gonna do what they were gonna do would just go to the place that didn't shut down and spread their contagion there. Squeeze one end and the toothpaste spews out the other.

So long as idiot politicians and non-compliant assholes keep this up the virus will happily f'k with this country. No leadership is why and at all levels.
To effectively deal with this shat everyone in every city and every town in every state in the entire country must act as if there is one country, not 50. If they don't it's going to be a long time before this game is finished.
 
2020-07-02 9:04:07 PM  

pedrop357: TDWCom29: skyotter: [Fark user image image 769x480]

The funny thing about those graphs, assuming they're accurate, is PA and MI (possibly among others with D governors) are making the red line look better and CA is making the blue look worse

That is to say, solid red states must be farked right now

It remains to be seen if they will get as bad as many of the blue states.


Again, if the graph is accurate, they're well on their way. We're in about inning 2 or 3 of this thing
 
2020-07-02 9:04:12 PM  

iron de havilland: orderandchaos: iron de havilland: Dork Gently: quiotu: New York has Fark all for cases anymore, you literally destroyed your argument with your stupid response.

Congrats on your self own dude.

Achievement unlocked: Kill all the grandmas

Achievement unlocked: Herd immunity

The thing with this pandemic is that it is a pandemic.

We can compare outcomes against how countries have chosen to deal with it.

So, we can see that countries that went the herd immunity route, like Sweden, have had far more deaths than its Scandinavian neighbours, but also similar contraction in its economy.

The US is an entirely different kind of wildcard, altogether, though, since at least most countries have someone in charge of the executive branch of government who at least cares somewhat about what happens to the residents of that nation.

But Trump doesn't take responsibility and still imagines that something magical will happen and the virus will disappear.

/Hillary would have been worse, right?

I'd bet the maskless hoards "listening to Trump" would behave in the same way while "not listening to Hillary."

I don't think so, personally.

Hillary would have taken responsibility. She would not have tried to undermine state governments that were trying to limit the spread of the virus.

Perhaps, in the end, there is some misguided logic around ripping off the band-aid, as opposed to bleeding slowly into flu season.

Again, the great thing about the internet is that it's easy to compare data from different nations easily. And we can all see how countries that did nothing are faring as well, economically, as countries that tried to limit the spread of COVID, except they have far more deaths to deal with.


"So far" was the grim point.
 
2020-07-02 9:11:51 PM  
Interestingly, we do not (yet?) seem to be seeing a spike in hospitalizations. At least not in the national aggregate.
 
2020-07-02 9:16:35 PM  

rewind2846: it's going to be a long time before this game is finished.


It's going to be a long time any which way it goes.  The only thing some states are trying to so is make the ride a little less rough.  It was never going to be a quick fix.  The vaccines that are currently being worked on, the furthest along are only in phase II testing.  None have reached the point of large scale production tests and effectiveness.  And some are only resulting in a lowering of the severity of the illness, not actual protection against it.

This is going to be a years long problem, if not decades, before there's an actual "resolution".  If we can even achieve "immunity" - which is still unknown.
 
2020-07-02 9:18:26 PM  

pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: pedrop357: AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked

I like how the states with the highest death and infection rates still manage to get a pass in favor of scapegoating the other states that are at mere fractions of those rates.

Blue states were first and got rocked because of highest population density.

The red states had something that blue states did not......more time. More time to prepare, more time to get PPE, more time to be on top of it. It was bad how much we squandered as a nation, but the red states were even dumber for wasting more valuable time, when they had a lens into what was going to happen.

And they did even less.

They also got prematurely locked down, which meant that any future measures will be fought hard.

Most of the country should not have locked down when and how they just because the Northeast was getting hit.


Oh okay, well, next time we'll wait until the disease is well established and hospitals are on the brink.

Are you stupid on purpose?
 
2020-07-02 9:19:24 PM  

hubiestubert: [Fark user image image 500x655]


Americans*
 
2020-07-02 9:27:23 PM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Creating an unprecedented nationwide health emergency to serve as cover for stolen elections is my guess.
 
2020-07-02 9:28:42 PM  

Mugato: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

No one has an answer.


Someone funnied this, but you're right. Yes, there were evil machinations behind this.  Yes, some very powerful people are making a fortune off this. But this more than farked up. This is what Dante whispered about before he drank himself to sleep. These are evil men doing evil things. These are bad, bad, people.

There can be light. There can be balance.  But it has to come from all of us.  We have to try to save this country.  If enough of us care, including the non-sociopathic rich, we can do it.

Russia has us in its grasp. It literally will take a nation to hold Putin back.
 
2020-07-02 9:30:28 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.


You still have yet to post any evidence of this "science".
 
2020-07-02 9:34:29 PM  

fisker: [cdn.acidcow.com image 494x525]


Wheel, snipe, celly boys.
 
2020-07-02 9:39:44 PM  

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

You still have yet to post any evidence of this "science".


Trump is going to lose, and it's going to be funny.
 
2020-07-02 9:39:54 PM  

pedrop357: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.


It's almost like people protesting against masks and closures are a risk while people wearing masks and protesting against something unrelated aren't doing too bad.

Who would have thought that anti-safety idiots would turn out worse?  It's a real head-scratcher.
 
2020-07-02 9:41:47 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: This is one of the things people should be railing against Facebook for encouraging. Sponsors should be pulling their ads not just for terrorist acts, but for spreading disease and death.


I pretty much only go to Facebook to post stories about the Facebook boycott, and to leave comments on my feed's ads explaining that I no longer buy anything that advertises on Facebook.
 
2020-07-02 9:51:15 PM  

Surrender your boo-tah: Are you stupid on purpose?


yes
 
2020-07-02 10:04:15 PM  
The new one on me as I just saw people on Facebook posting that masks are  The mark of the beast
 
2020-07-02 10:06:23 PM  

AAAAGGGGHHHH: phrawgh: All these folks worried about their freedumbs and being sheep. Trump should start a rumor that black people are spreading the virus and whites are disproportionately affected, you'd see them all mask up immediately.

Please don't suggest that. Because then these are the masks they'd be putting on:

[i.pinimg.com image 850x478]


Purely in terms of limiting the pandemic, that would be fine (much better than the people wearing a proper surgical mask on their chin).
 
2020-07-02 10:13:39 PM  

WillofJ2: The new one on me as I just saw people on Facebook posting that masks are  The mark of the beast


That's stupid. We all know it's the 5G tracking chip which gets injected along with the eventual vaccine.

/or as a slightly less crazy interpretation, a certificate of "immunity" from a positive antibody test
 
2020-07-02 10:16:41 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish : gameshowhost: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

A simple "come on" - indicating your 'common sense' disbelief - renders all scientific evidence moot. You win. The negroes are the CO-19 vector. BSABSVR. 1488.

Oh nonono. You win now,

you done pulled the race card and I've seen the light. Everyone except african americans and anybody supporting or umdermining them in public protests are vectors.

I know.

that's cute, did you "smart" it all by yourself?


I don't smart or funny my own posts, and thank you.
 
2020-07-02 10:29:59 PM  
I heard on the news earlier that Trump is now ok with masks.  Everything's going to be fine.
 
2020-07-02 10:51:39 PM  

bughunter: Weatherkiss: [i.imgur.com image 498x498] [View Full Size image _x_]

Man, I hope that when I die, enough people want to celebrate my life to dance my coffin to the cemetary...

/dead serious
//that's a symbol of respect


Depending on where you are and your available resources, you should be able to arrange a Dixieland jazz funeral...
 
2020-07-02 11:07:35 PM  
Just-world fallacy: Bad people make choices, and it bites them in the ass. Good people are inherently better suited for everything, and their choices do not lead to bad outcomes.

Going to church is a Good Thing, so they're protected somehow. If you say that there's a random component to anything, they'll stare at you like you're insane or lying. The notion that some things in one's life is dependent on random chance is flat out terrifying to them, because it would mean that the universe is terrifying. That's why they back authoritarians -- they tell them that they're good, and if they follow this or that set of rules, they'll continue to be good. The Others are rapists, murderers, drug dealers, and some, presumably, are good people.
 
2020-07-02 11:36:42 PM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Because King Cuomo said we can.
 
2020-07-02 11:47:52 PM  

JTtheCajun: bughunter: Weatherkiss: [i.imgur.com image 498x498] [View Full Size image _x_]

Man, I hope that when I die, enough people want to celebrate my life to dance my coffin to the cemetary...

/dead serious
//that's a symbol of respect

Depending on where you are and your available resources, you should be able to arrange a Dixieland jazz funeral...


Second Line for me, please.
 
2020-07-02 11:48:33 PM  

pedrop357: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762: quiotu: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Remind me, are we talking about the Branch Dildonians that stormed capital buildings with guns and anger to open shiat up, or the BLM masses that protested with facemasks? Or the 6000 losers in Tulsa that breathed the same air as Trump for 2 hours?

There's plenty of blame to go around, most of it being stupidity. There's stupidity on both sides, only your side is proud of it though.

Experts see little evidence that protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

Come on.

Parties - Not Protests - Are Causing Spikes In Coronavirus

Plenty more citations where that came from.  Feel free to Google "protests not spreading covid" for more.

Then the criticism of beachgoers was misguided, as that of reopen protesters, people who dared to visit parks, etc.


You know what? fark you, go do what you want asshole. Don't come crawling to us when you need a ventilator.
 
2020-07-03 12:00:40 AM  

Leishu: Kumana Wanalaia: MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image 673x325]
DONT DEAD
OPEN INSIDE

[Fark user image 673x325]

The Way was made by the Dead
And the Dead keep it!

Lazy shop job, but here you go:

[Fark user image 673x325]


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2020-07-03 12:06:55 AM  
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2020-07-03 12:11:00 AM  

Begoggle: LiberalConservative: pounddawg: We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"

Problem is Murica is farking it up for the rest of the world too.

We're not talking just about the virus anymore are we?


I was talking about the virus. But, sure could apply to other matters. Though, there are some things that America does well, right?
 
2020-07-03 12:20:56 AM  

Ambitwistor: skyotter: [Fark user image 769x480]

I'd like to see that normalized for population in each category.  I think there are more people in the 2016 red states than the blue ones.


Per 100,000 people. Blue states are about 142 million, red states total 187 million.
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2020-07-03 12:27:40 AM  

skyotter: Ambitwistor: skyotter: [Fark user image 769x480]

I'd like to see that normalized for population in each category.  I think there are more people in the 2016 red states than the blue ones.

Per 100,000 people. Blue states are about 142 million, red states total 187 million.
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The gap really starts expanding around Juneteenth.
 
2020-07-03 12:46:59 AM  
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2020-07-03 1:02:56 AM  

Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.


I detest your politics, but I thank you for teaching me the word "nugatory".
 
2020-07-03 1:18:46 AM  

Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.


Because we flattened the curve and prepared the hospitals. Now we cautiously open and monitor the situation until a vaccine/herd immunity kicks in.

Did you think we would stay in lockdown for a year? Our supply chains would collapse. There are some reports that some areas may already be seeing herd immunity. From levels as low as 30%. Did you notice NYC had a huge spike and cases collapse?

Lots of "but I science" folks on Fark who aren't even sciencing. No critical thinking skills.
 
2020-07-03 1:19:50 AM  

AsparagusFTW: You mean the red states with the lowest number of educated people, opened too early and didn't fully understand or ignored the consequences?

This is going to cripple the U.S. economically. Carlos Q had a great image he posted to show how bad this going despite "the great but not really great" jobs reports.

[Fark user image image 596x591]

SHOCKED.

/Well, not that shocked


Redline also shows a rise in cases since memorial day and massive protests.
 
2020-07-03 1:22:01 AM  

Walker: Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.

"Hows your 401K doing?"
[Fark user image image 850x425]

I doubt they have them.
[Fark user image image 850x566]


Why? How are you making that assumption?
 
2020-07-03 1:28:27 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Walker: Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.

"Hows your 401K doing?"
[Fark user image image 850x425]

I doubt they have them.
[Fark user image image 850x566]

Why? How are you making that assumption?

 
2020-07-03 1:28:33 AM  

pedrop357: Yanks_RSJ: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

NY and DC are seeing their cases decline.  There must not have been any protests there.

Which would suggest the "They're killing grandma" outrage aimed at reopen protesters was very misguided.


Well, those protestors were protesting the wrong thing. I'm old enough to remember when protests killed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p​o​litics/2020/04/24/coronavirus-wisconsi​n-protest-draws-thousands-state-capito​l/3023629001/


https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/​n​ews/politics/story/2020-04-26/hundreds​-gather-in-pacific-beach-for-anti-lock​down-protest-100-new-covid-19-cases-re​ported-in-region
 
2020-07-03 1:29:13 AM  

MurphyMurphy: [Fark user image image 673x325]DONT DEADOPEN INSIDE


But muh open borders!!!
 
2020-07-03 1:33:12 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Walker: Acidicnads: Good thing the stock market is soaring. That will show that commi virus.

"Hows your 401K doing?"
[Fark user image image 850x425]

I doubt they have them.
[Fark user image image 850x566]

Why? How are you making that assumption?


Oh, bobby joe bobby,
I being ignorant a hobby?
Is being rube ,like, freedom dude?
Am I a liberal or am i just rude?
OHHHHH bobby don'tbe so sad
Your the best boy a loser ever had.

XOXO
 
2020-07-03 1:43:34 AM  
The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.
 
2020-07-03 1:55:38 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

Because we flattened the curve and prepared the hospitals. Now we cautiously open and monitor the situation until a vaccine/herd immunity kicks in.

Did you think we would stay in lockdown for a year? Our supply chains would collapse. There are some reports that some areas may already be seeing herd immunity. From levels as low as 30%. Did you notice NYC had a huge spike and cases collapse?

Lots of "but I science" folks on Fark who aren't even sciencing. No critical thinking skills.


I have been trying to bring people back to reality for a while... math and stuff is hard for some people.  They can't see that the number of infections is a bullshiat metric, yet it's the only one they rely on.  Not per capita... nor the rate of hospitalizations or deaths per capita.  Nope.  Or that California isn't really that bad compared to other states, it's actually better than average.

But please, do freak out that young people are mostly the ones getting infected and that the cases are minor, not severe.  Actually, as long as they stay away from those how are at greater risk, it's ideal actually for them to get it, develop immunity and stop acting as potential vectors.  It's what sweden tried, but failed to do because they didn't adequately protect their at risk communities fast enough.  It's what we SHOULD have been preparing for during the lockdown, but we didn't.
 
2020-07-03 1:56:55 AM  

skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.


So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
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2020-07-03 2:04:19 AM  

Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
[Fark user image image 640x449]


I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.
 
2020-07-03 2:08:13 AM  

skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
[Fark user image image 640x449]

I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.


Left wing authoritarianism is just as scary as right wing... it's for your own good you know.
 
2020-07-03 2:13:39 AM  

halotosis: skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
[Fark user image image 640x449]

I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.

Left wing authoritarianism is just as scary as right wing... it's for your own good you know.


So you're saying the mask orders are scary, just to be clear?

I am generally antiauthoritarian, but somehow I find hundreds of thousands of lives lost to be scarier than inconveniencing some people for a while.
 
2020-07-03 2:15:47 AM  

skatedrifter: Ivo Shandor: skatedrifter: The surge has been blamed in part on Americans not covering their faces or following other social distancing rules as states lifted their lockdowns over the past few weeks. Fauci warned that if people don't start complying, "we're going to be in some serious difficulty."

Don't be fooled people, this is what it's all about.

Compliance.

So you will choose "serious difficulty" instead? Good luck with that.
[Fark user image image 640x449]

I'm sorry but we are going to have to fine you $500 and possibly arrest you you because your cloth facemask wasn't aligned properly.

And pick up that can, citizen.


I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.
 
2020-07-03 2:23:26 AM  

LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.


That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.
 
2020-07-03 2:24:23 AM  

halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.


I agree with those things, but why is that being brought up in this thread?
 
2020-07-03 2:32:48 AM  

halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.


Telling you to wear a mask during a F*CKING PANDEMIC is not comparable to any of those.
 
2020-07-03 4:44:26 AM  

bobbyjoebobby: Mugato: Alien Robot: Mugato: So lets open more shiat! Because reasons!

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Explain why we're opening everything now that everything is worse than when we closed things in the first place. Someone just give me an answer for that, even if it's bullshiat.

Because we flattened the curve and prepared the hospitals. Now we cautiously open and monitor the situation until a vaccine/herd immunity kicks in.

Did you think we would stay in lockdown for a year? Our supply chains would collapse. There are some reports that some areas may already be seeing herd immunity. From levels as low as 30%. Did you notice NYC had a huge spike and cases collapse?

Lots of "but I science" folks on Fark who aren't even sciencing. No critical thinking skills.


Where did you get the idea that we flattened the curve? We're breaking records every day with the number of new cases.
 
2020-07-03 7:28:09 AM  
Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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2020-07-03 9:10:56 AM  

Begoggle: fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

You still have yet to post any evidence of this "science".

Trump is going to lose, and it's going to be funny.


Hope you are right, but cynicism tells me he's going to win.
 
2020-07-03 9:18:44 AM  

pounddawg: We're so f*cked

/had someone today tell me it was a "fake virus"


I heard that at the grocery store yesterday. It was all I could to not yell, "I know someone that died from it, you asshat!"
 
2020-07-03 11:13:15 AM  

Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

[Fark user image 750x459]


At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?
 
2020-07-03 11:55:28 AM  

LordJiro: halotosis: LordJiro: I assume you also oppose seatbelt and public nudity laws? And you would cry 'tyranny' if you were arrested for flinging shiat at random people?

It's not some farking dystopian overreach to tell you to take basic safety precautions so as to not spread an extremely farking dangerous disease around.

That's not what I am talking about.  Slippery slope is slippery.  The freedoms you give up or the power you give to politicians today won't be returned.  Patriot act, war on drugs, mass surveillance... all in the name of fear.

Telling you to wear a mask during a F*CKING PANDEMIC is not comparable to any of those.


See, you are jerks, this is why I refuse to talk to any of you about things right now.  I have been wearing a mask long before most the rest of you farkers around here (I have blood cancer, dipshiats).  I'm tired of coming here, dealing with this echo chamber of bullshiat.  My neighbor is the nurse who intubates patients at the hospital here in LA, we actually talk about this stuff, like the science of it and stuff.  If you lived here in LA, experienced this insanity the past few months, you'd understand why even she thinks we're going way of the deep end here into authoritarianism.
 
2020-07-03 12:14:25 PM  

Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

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This!!!! I just had a conversation with my neighbor about this exact thing they day before yesterday.  How so many of the cases in the hospital are asymptomatic... I asked her why they were even in the hospital then and she said, broken bones, other regular problems.
 
2020-07-03 12:22:36 PM  

Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

[Fark user image 750x459]

At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?


Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti​c​les/PMC7151357/
 
2020-07-03 12:29:55 PM  

Tommy Moo: Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

[Fark user image 750x459]

At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?

Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC7151357/


New York hit herd immunity effects some time ago.  We kinda know this because it's been proven the majority of the new cases after lockdown came from people sheltering at home there.  You can't avoid it in a densely packed place like NY, with high rise living, but the positive rate is down to almost where we started....  A lot of what we are seeing is really testing bias, we're seeing what was underneath the tip of the iceberg (serious cases) now.  I know tons of people who have gotten tested in the past two or three weeks and I can't figure out why they got tested.  I guess people are just getting tested for the comfort of it, rather than because they are critically ill.
 
2020-07-03 2:25:07 PM  

fusillade762: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

You still have yet to post any evidence of this "science".


That was your own link...
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*slide whistle*
 
2020-07-03 2:28:33 PM  

pedrop357: fark'emfeed'emfish: fusillade762:

Let's have more protests where we crowd together, yell nugatory slogans, and fleck spittle at each other.

Experts see little evidence that large gatherings and protests spread the coronavirus in U.S.

The science is already in on this.

Those experts had a different view on the reopen protests, as well as people visiting beaches, lakes, and parks.


Agreed. It's baloney, you can't exclude nationwide protests from vectoring with any intillectual honesty.
 
2020-07-03 2:56:38 PM  

Tommy Moo: Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

[Fark user image 750x459]

At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?

Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC7151357/


Yeah we are definitely on the high side, and going up, here. I was more making the point that assessing this on the national scale when what we have is basically dozens of specific outbreaks is probably not the way to go, sadly.

Is there evidence that people are actually gaining immunity to the virus now? That would be news to me, and I would very much appreciate a link if so.
 
2020-07-03 3:22:56 PM  

halotosis: New York hit herd immunity effects some time ago.

That's nonsense right there.  No need to read any further.

We kinda know this because it's been proven the majority of the new cases after lockdown came from people sheltering at home there.  You can't avoid it in a densely packed place like NY, with high rise living, but the positive rate is down to almost where we started....  A lot of what we are seeing is really testing bias, we're seeing what was underneath the tip of the iceberg (serious cases) now.  I know tons of people who have gotten tested in the past two or three weeks and I can't figure out why they got tested.  I guess people are just getting tested for the comfort of it, rather than because they are critically ill.

 
2020-07-03 3:35:38 PM  

Leishu: Tommy Moo: Leishu: Tommy Moo: Confirmed cases are increasing because people are once again getting into car accidents and getting elective surgeries, and now all hospitals are testing everyone who comes in. These are people who otherwise would not have ever even been tested. The fact is that it's just a bunch of asymptomatic people getting added to the pile, and the data supports this. We are seeing a surge in cases, but no surge in deaths.

[Fark user image 750x459]

At least on a state by state level (the only data I could find that gave a nice graph of tests completed versus positive tests), this may not be accurate. Here is Nevada's positive tests vs. testing volume:

https://rt.live/us/NV

Note that the number of tests completed is, so far, pretty consistent, whereas the number of positive cases has gone up.

Maybe it is different in your state?

Notice something else from that graph of Nevada? The Rt is all the way down to 1.43. This corresponds to only needing 30% of the population to be immune to achieve herd immunity. Looking around at some of the other states, Nevada is actually on the high side, with a lot of the others closer to 1.1. The fact that deaths are asymptotically approaching zero is because we are getting very close to herd immunity. Feel free to compare those numbers to this publication if you think I'm wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic​les/PMC7151357/

Yeah we are definitely on the high side, and going up, here. I was more making the point that assessing this on the national scale when what we have is basically dozens of specific outbreaks is probably not the way to go, sadly.

Is there evidence that people are actually gaining immunity to the virus now? That would be news to me, and I would very much appreciate a link if so.


Also, the Rt isn't "all the way down" to its current 1.44. It is back up to that number after people being dumbasses and not masking up or respecting social distancing.
 
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