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(KCEN TV Waco)   Army: Your son deserted the Army so he will not be getting a military funeral. Family: He went missing right before he'd have been honorably discharged and was found in a shallow grave. Army: He really wanted to desert, now get out of my office   (kcentv.com) divider line
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2020-07-02 9:41:29 PM  
40 votes:
Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?
 
2020-07-02 9:44:53 PM  
31 votes:

dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.


Are you implying the military murdered him to keep from having to give him his benefits?  I'm pretty sure there are easier ways for them to do that, and also that there would be a whole lot more missing soldiers.
 
2020-07-02 9:43:20 PM  
31 votes:
Sounds pretty clear, from what shes saying theres no way this young man would do that so close to completion.  I guess anything is possible, but it sure looks like something happened to him, not him just deserting.

and if its true, fark these assholes who tried to call him a deserter.

if not, I stand corrected.
 
2020-07-02 10:26:38 PM  
14 votes:

GrogSmash: Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


Vanessa Gullien.

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Sexually harassed at Fort Hood... which is apparently SO NOTORIOUS for rape on site that female soldiers are told to never walk alone. She disappeared. Her family started pressing.

And Now..

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This is apparently not the first time this has happened. People.. especially female soldiers.. apparently tend to disappear at Fort Hood, BUT, the sexual assault/rape is not contained to women. The men are preyed on as well. It's a cluster. Fort Hood needs to be shut down entirely.

/online scuttlebutt I'm seeing is this might be sex or organ trafficking but, take that with a bottle of salt
 
2020-07-02 10:13:24 PM  
14 votes:
I knew a guy who spent 3 years as a POW in Vietnam, escaped, made it back to US lines and instead of pinning a medal in him, he was labeled a deserter and given a dishonorable discharge because his company commander never reported him MIA
 
2020-07-02 9:47:40 PM  
14 votes:
Soldiers do crazy things (I was one). It wouldn't be completely outside the realm of possible that a soldier deserts just a couple weeks from being discharged. This guy did nearly 6 years, and was a PV2, so that seems to suggest at least one (maybe multiple) Article 15 cases. Still, it would be rather rare for even a shiatbird to leave at that moment and that should have gotten the attention of a lot of people higher up in the chain of command. I feel for the family right now. The Army could be handling this better.
 
2020-07-02 9:41:52 PM  
13 votes:
"It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.
 
2020-07-02 10:12:42 PM  
12 votes:

Steakzilla: phedex: Sounds pretty clear, from what shes saying theres no way this young man would do that so close to completion.  I guess anything is possible, but it sure looks like something happened to him, not him just deserting.

and if its true, fark these assholes who tried to call him a deserter.

if not, I stand corrected.

Might be something that is standard practice.  Member disappears without a trace and after x amount of time is automatically considered a deserter.


It was.

However the body was found and prelim reports say that he died... Right around when he disappeared.

At that point I would immediately reverse the desertion classification.  You kinda have to be alive in order to desert.
 
2020-07-02 9:52:42 PM  
11 votes:

Fart_Machine: GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?

That's why the army is waiting on the local authorities to do an investigation and discover the cause of death before they change his status.


That aspect I have no issues with.  That is policies and paperwork.

The fact that folks are going missing, and there are zero details is what gets my goat.
 
2020-07-02 9:41:48 PM  
9 votes:

johnny_vegas: You suck at reading comprehension subby


You suck at knowing where you are.
Welcome to Fark.
 
2020-07-02 5:39:38 PM  
9 votes:
You suck at reading comprehension subby
 
2020-07-02 10:23:17 PM  
8 votes:
Gee, I wonder why that guy they found dead in a hole stopped showing up for duty.  I'm sure the two are unrelated, and this is all a huge coincidence.
 
2020-07-02 9:47:30 PM  
8 votes:

GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


Serial killer on the base?
 
2020-07-02 9:58:38 PM  
7 votes:

lolmao500: GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?

Serial killer on the base?


I'm thinking that any available corpse dogs are going to be getting some overtime around that base...  might be an interesting horor show, depending how many have gone missing.

And a distraction from covid, the election, and a fine addition to 2020...
 
2020-07-02 9:39:37 PM  
5 votes:
She said she reached out to her casualty officer out of Fort Sill. According to Wedel, she was told they were planning to clear Gregory's name. Then she got a call back that clarified that until the autopsy results came back showing Gregory had been dead for ten months, they were going to put his date of death as last Friday.

So wait for the autopsy results to come before holding the funeral?
 
2020-07-02 10:56:10 PM  
4 votes:

GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


You've been missing a lot, it's been pretty big news around the country and those parts, so since it's been on all the news its assuming you knew it, it is also a local news source and everyone knows about this.

A female soldier has been missing for a couple of weeks.  The army wasn't doing much so a senator got involved so they actually started doing search parties for her during one search party they found him in a shallow grave.

Unfortunately it does not end on a happy note as they found more remains not far from his.  As far as I know they havent confirmed if it is her or not.
 
2020-07-02 10:00:16 PM  
4 votes:

dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.


So you're saying the Army is conspiring to kill people before they get out and receive benefits?  Or just this one guy?  Even if true there isn't one person specifically benefiting from the money saved so what's the farking point?  God I hope this was a sad attempt at being funny...
 
2020-07-02 9:53:25 PM  
4 votes:

johnny_vegas: jso2897: johnny_vegas: You suck at reading comprehension subby

You suck at knowing where you are.
Welcome to Fark.

*insert 'your mom' joke here*


Children! Children! You are both idiots and I slept with both your mother's!
 
2020-07-03 7:27:49 AM  
3 votes:
johnny_vegas:
Depending when he died, this one may have been kind of hard for them to track down, no?

I guess my main point, and the problem I have with this situation, is that it doesn't really seemed like they cared to track him down.
 
2020-07-02 11:20:50 PM  
3 votes:

fusillade762: dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.

So the Army killed him so they wouldn't have to pay his benefits?


the military doesn't  pay benefits, the VA does, even the gi bill stuff.
 
2020-07-02 9:50:11 PM  
3 votes:

GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


That's why the army is waiting on the local authorities to do an investigation and discover the cause of death before they change his status.
 
2020-07-02 9:46:22 PM  
3 votes:

dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.


So the Army killed him so they wouldn't have to pay his benefits?
 
2020-07-03 10:30:32 AM  
2 votes:
Fort Hood. Killeen, Texas.
Sure, they have both a Whataburger and an In-n-Out, but....
Everyone I've ever met there from residents to soldiers stationed there all seem to have 'issues' coping with reality, and they are amplified on base. I have relatives in that area that I keep myself distanced from because they aren't the usual self-righteous bigoted racists, they are also all talk like Trump with his self-stroking ego trying to make themselves sound like Gods, that tragedy is 'a good thing', and that 'it will go away quickly'.
Then add in everything from the mass shooting in 2009 to the missing soldiers turning up today, the stories of rape and assaults on base there, and you get the impression its like a hellhole to a whole new level. The way I hear it, the ONLY thing good about Hood is "At least it's not Fort Polk, but Polk is still safer."
 
2020-07-03 7:11:17 AM  
2 votes:

Ringshadow: GrogSmash: Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?

Vanessa Gullien.

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Sexually harassed at Fort Hood... which is apparently SO NOTORIOUS for rape on site that female soldiers are told to never walk alone. She disappeared. Her family started pressing.

And Now..

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This is apparently not the first time this has happened. People.. especially female soldiers.. apparently tend to disappear at Fort Hood, BUT, the sexual assault/rape is not contained to women. The men are preyed on as well. It's a cluster. Fort Hood needs to be shut down entirely.

/online scuttlebutt I'm seeing is this might be sex or organ trafficking but, take that with a bottle of salt


https://www.insideedition.com/soldier​-​vanessa-guillen-was-beaten-to-death-in​-fort-hood-armory-then-dismembered-fam​ily-attorney

According to this Vanessa was dismembered when they couldn't burn her body.
 
2020-07-03 12:32:36 AM  
2 votes:

zang: MSBFDffpm: From what I took away FTA is that all kinds of folks are trying to reach the proper conclusion.  Too bad the deceased don't come with a TOD tag or microchip.

Huh, does that exist?  Like an implantable chip with a clock that starts ticking as soon as your core temperature drops below 80 or something...


A pacemaker diagnostic was used once to determine when someone died in a criminal investigation: https://www.bmj.com/co​ntent/326/7380/7​0.2
 
2020-07-02 11:43:44 PM  
2 votes:

dkulprit: johnny_vegas: You suck at reading comprehension subby

I'm failing to follow.  They haven't confirmed that he didn't desert, and is still on deserter status and they still expect family to pay for moving the body?


He's a shiatposter.  There is nothing to follow.
 
2020-07-02 11:04:57 PM  
2 votes:
It was the burying himself in a shallow grave that allowed him to elude the MP's for so long.
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2020-07-02 10:56:28 PM  
2 votes:

GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


So it appears possible there is a serial killer on base.
 
2020-07-02 10:48:30 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.

So the Army killed him so they wouldn't have to pay his benefits?


They do have a pattern of that in VA hospitals.

But seriously though, obviously this guy was so desperate to desert that he couldn't even bother digging himself a proper grave.  It all adds up.
 
2020-07-03 12:19:19 PM  
1 vote:

roostercube: Soldiers do crazy things (I was one). It wouldn't be completely outside the realm of possible that a soldier deserts just a couple weeks from being discharged. This guy did nearly 6 years, and was a PV2, so that seems to suggest at least one (maybe multiple) Article 15 cases. Still, it would be rather rare for even a shiatbird to leave at that moment and that should have gotten the attention of a lot of people higher up in the chain of command. I feel for the family right now. The Army could be handling this better.


He was getting an honorable, so it doesn't seem like he was being forced out.  Usually people disappear when they're getting a Dishonorable or Other than honorable, because what's the diff at this point?

We had a guy in our unit that did something similar to yours.  He got caught with a a pound of weed in his barracks 3 weeks before he was going to get discharged.  They were going to give him an Other than honorable discharge and just get him tf out of the army....  this idiot farking runs away.  We were stationed in germany at the time.  6 months later he's caught in his German GF's apartment.

So instead of just getting an other than honorable discharge for getting caught with a pound of weed he got sentenced to 1 year labor and 2 in Leavenworth....

All he had to do was wait 3 weeks to get out the first time.  He was 2 weeks out from getting his other than honorable, then farking deserts and gets a year of hard labor and 2 years in leavenworth.

Yes people are dumb, but it doesn't appear the guy in article was that dumb.
 
2020-07-03 7:46:44 AM  
1 vote:

Ringshadow: It's a cluster. Fort Hood needs to be shut down entirely.


Burning the ship only spreads the rats.  Need to exterminate the rats.
 
2020-07-03 6:33:32 AM  
1 vote:

rosekolodny: tpmchris: Pvt2 after four years, I'm guessing he pissed dirty.

Or just wasn't real smart or motivated.  That doesn't mean he's a deserter.


He automatically would a Specialist by now for "time in service" alone-dude f'ed up somewhere along the line.
 
2020-07-03 12:02:50 AM  
1 vote:
Welp, what makes sense is the army is not going to remove him from deserter status until his autopsy confirms when he died, duh.
 
2020-07-02 11:21:19 PM  
1 vote:

johnny_vegas: dkulprit: johnny_vegas: You suck at reading comprehension subby

I'm failing to follow.  They haven't confirmed that he didn't desert, and is still on deserter status and they still expect family to pay for moving the body?

I was more referring to subby's comment that his body was found before his discharge date


Discharge date is a great name for a hookup app for people with gonorrhea...
 
2020-07-02 10:40:21 PM  
1 vote:
Anyone look at the deserter list? One guy on the list deserted 68 years ago. Numerous are 50+ years. At what point does the Army say we don't care about it?
 
2020-07-02 10:40:08 PM  
1 vote:
Not a lot of benefits after six years ya'll.
 
2020-07-02 10:32:21 PM  
1 vote:

LrdPhoenix: dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.

Are you implying the military murdered him to keep from having to give him his benefits?  I'm pretty sure there are easier ways for them to do that, and also that there would be a whole lot more missing soldiers.


They just refuse to give them to you without killing you
 
2020-07-02 10:29:34 PM  
1 vote:

Steakzilla: dyhchong: "It doesn't make sense that a young man who was just days away from getting an honorable discharge and his military benefits would all of a sudden just disappear without a trace.

Sure it does. I bolded the sense it makes.

So you're saying the Army is conspiring to kill people before they get out and receive benefits?  Or just this one guy?  Even if true there isn't one person specifically benefiting from the money saved so what's the farking point?  God I hope this was a sad attempt at being funny...


The very sad thing is, you look at who is running things and how they got their positions, it's a non-zero probability.

/Military version of the autopsy report  ofBreonna Taylor
 
2020-07-02 10:27:17 PM  
1 vote:

GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?


That second point was my thought exactly! I was like waitaminute! I'm pretty sure I just read this story but the victim was a woman. Is this normal for Fort Hood?!
 
2020-07-02 10:11:32 PM  
1 vote:

Fart_Machine: GrogSmash: Ok, some serious details missing from that article...

Like how the fark did he end up in a shallow grave?

Followed closely by...

Apparently this isn't the only individual to go *poof* from that base?!?

That's why the army is waiting on the local authorities to do an investigation and discover the cause of death before they change his status.


That is not very reassuring.  If Morales' body has been buried for 10 months, estimating the time is dicey.  OTOH if they turn up something about how he got dead, that might be helpful to the army, his family, and classification as a non-deserter.
 
2020-07-02 10:09:56 PM  
1 vote:
Would a deserter have one of these?

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2020-07-02 10:03:42 PM  
1 vote:

phedex: Sounds pretty clear, from what shes saying theres no way this young man would do that so close to completion.  I guess anything is possible, but it sure looks like something happened to him, not him just deserting.

and if its true, fark these assholes who tried to call him a deserter.

if not, I stand corrected.


Might be something that is standard practice.  Member disappears without a trace and after x amount of time is automatically considered a deserter.
 
2020-07-02 9:49:10 PM  
1 vote:
So who declared the Code Red?

/can't handle the truth
//go ahead and deride my truth-handling abilities
 
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