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2020-07-02 4:55:56 PM  
We're a country that has some very old children.
 
2020-07-02 6:44:13 PM  
What a bunch of Q-eefs.
 
2020-07-02 7:32:47 PM  
We're a bunch of selfish motherfarkers.

Maybe it's time to find an actual civilized country to live in.
 
2020-07-02 7:41:16 PM  
For a bunch of people so concerned about rights, they sure do get it wrongs a lot.
 
2020-07-02 9:57:17 PM  
They know as much about their actual rights as the do about what the bible actually says.
 
2020-07-02 9:57:24 PM  
Individualism, while normally a fine philosophy, in America has become a cult.
 
2020-07-02 9:57:53 PM  

vrax: They know as much about their actual rights as the do about what the bible actually says.


American adolescents probably know more about what the Bible says than do their idiot grandparents.
 
2020-07-02 9:58:15 PM  
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2020-07-02 9:58:37 PM  
Many Americans seem impervious to this truth.

Simplified for accuracy.
 
2020-07-02 9:59:38 PM  
I got to the end of the article and went "No farking shiat, Sherlock, I figured this out when I was in highschool."

Also good luck getting those who are screaming about their (fake) rights to listen to any sort of compromise.
 
2020-07-02 10:00:20 PM  
"Necessity is the law of time and place, and the emergency calls into life the necessity ... to exercise the power to protect the public health." In 1905, the U.S. Supreme Court had called for just such deference in Jacobson v. Massachusetts.

And in 1918, also this Spring.
 
2020-07-02 10:00:47 PM  
They are all about rights and freedom, but at the same time, most of them would make Trump dictator for life.
 
2020-07-02 10:00:56 PM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Individualism, while normally a fine philosophy, in America has become a cult.


It was never a fine philosophy for H. sapiens. We're not a solitary species.
 
2020-07-02 10:01:53 PM  
Jacobson v.Massachusetts was about forcing people to get small pox vaccinations.  Remember small pox?  Nope, because of this and other decisions.
 
2020-07-02 10:01:58 PM  
people also have a right to go food shopping without the risk that an unmasked person transmits a deadly disease.

Bears repeating.
 
2020-07-02 10:02:00 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Individualism, while normally a fine philosophy, in America has become a cult.

It was never a fine philosophy for H. sapiens. We're not a solitary species.


Yup. We don't do solitary well, and oh hey, the origin of wealth is distribution of labor, can't do that if you're on your own!
 
2020-07-02 10:04:43 PM  
 Am I free to leave the thread? Am I free to leave the thread? AM I FREE TO LEAVE THE THREAD ??
 
2020-07-02 10:05:18 PM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: Am I free to leave the thread? Am I free to leave the thread? AM I FREE TO LEAVE THE THREAD ??


Apparently not.
 
2020-07-02 10:05:39 PM  
Let's be real here. The people saying their rights are violated by wearing a mask aren't rebels. They aren't independents. They're the people that blindly follow Trump because they can't think for themselves. There are no free thinkers that support Trump. So Trump and the rest of the conservative believers need to start wearing masks or get used to the depression they are causing.
 
2020-07-02 10:08:23 PM  
No Onion?

I am disappoint.
 
2020-07-02 10:10:59 PM  
This is how children act when they don't want to eat their peas. They biatch and moan about how you can't make them. These people have problems with being told what to do but at the same time LOVE tell others what to do.
 
2020-07-02 10:15:16 PM  
Fark this noise.


We're not too obsessed with our rights.


We are inadequately obsessed with our farking responsibilities.

 
2020-07-02 10:16:25 PM  
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2020-07-02 10:17:39 PM  
Not just adolescents.  How many times have you heard from a journalist or other pundit something like "Trump has the right to do X" or "The Governor doesn't have the right to ..."  What they mean is "the authority", not "the right".  Rights are fundamental to the person, authority is just part of the job.
 
2020-07-02 10:17:56 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Individualism, while normally a fine philosophy, in America has become a cult.

It was never a fine philosophy for H. sapiens. We're not a solitary species.


Individualism is autism, expressed as an existential philosophy.
Libertarianism is autism, expressed as a political philosophy.
 
2020-07-02 10:19:54 PM  
That is to say I take umbrage with putting the onus on the American predilection to value our personal freedoms.  I think that's really important.  It's just equally important that we recognize the individual and collective responsibilities that we have that allow us to continue to have a nation that affords us those rights.  Voting, obviously.  But also responsible exercise of the rest of your rights.  From maybe not telling the armed military man that the third amendment says he can't stay in your home.  Innapropriate time to simply "assert your rights", as an extreme example, to maybe not buying an entire military arsenal just because you are legally allowed to do so.

Us citizens learning when and how and why to leverage these rights is a big part of this whole crazy experiment.
 
2020-07-02 10:21:31 PM  

BeesNuts: That is to say I take umbrage with putting the onus on the American predilection to value our personal freedoms.  I think that's really important.  It's just equally important that we recognize the individual and collective responsibilities that we have that allow us to continue to have a nation that affords us those rights.  Voting, obviously.  But also responsible exercise of the rest of your rights.  From maybe not telling the armed military man that the third amendment says he can't stay in your home.  Innapropriate time to simply "assert your rights", as an extreme example, to maybe not buying an entire military arsenal just because you are legally allowed to do so.

Us citizens learning when and how and why to leverage these rights is a big part of this whole crazy experiment.


Ignore all of the punctuations in this post please.
 
2020-07-02 10:25:15 PM  
... "adolescents" is a weird way to describe a group without a single member under the age of 50 and a median in the 60s.
 
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2020-07-02 10:25:25 PM  

BeesNuts: Fark this noise.

We're not too obsessed with our rights.

We are inadequately obsessed with our farking responsibilities.


This this this.  Rights also imply limits since you are not supposed to violate the rules of others.  The "Mai rights" crap going on this week about the Texas bars is a great illustration of that.  Opening the bars puts others in danger so it makes sense to not allow them right now.  But MAI RIGHT TO DRINK, MAI RIGHTS!

There is also a hierachy of rights that are getting thrown out the window these days.  Sure you have the right to travel where you want.  However when that travel puts another person's life in danger then the higher right, the right to keep one's life, trumps (sorry) your right to travel.

However at the moment you are hearing a lot of toothless people scream about their right to do anything.  If you have the right to do anything with no regards to anyone else you're asserting that your rights are superior.  They aren't... at least they aren't supposed to be.

Do you have the right to get your hair cut?  I would say most of the time, sure, but you also have
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-07-02 10:26:20 PM  

d23: BeesNuts: Fark this noise.

We're not too obsessed with our rights.

We are inadequately obsessed with our farking responsibilities.

This this this.  Rights also imply limits since you are not supposed to violate the rules of others.  The "Mai rights" crap going on this week about the Texas bars is a great illustration of that.  Opening the bars puts others in danger so it makes sense to not allow them right now.  But MAI RIGHT TO DRINK, MAI RIGHTS!

There is also a hierachy of rights that are getting thrown out the window these days.  Sure you have the right to travel where you want.  However when that travel puts another person's life in danger then the higher right, the right to keep one's life, trumps (sorry) your right to travel.

However at the moment you are hearing a lot of toothless people scream about their right to do anything.  If you have the right to do anything with no regards to anyone else you're asserting that your rights are superior.  They aren't... at least they aren't supposed to be.

Do you have the right to get your hair cut?  I would say most of the time, sure, but you also have


Just ignore the last line that didn't get deleted. Damn me.
 
2020-07-02 10:29:33 PM  
As an American. I can say with absolute certainty, that Americans are morons.
 
2020-07-02 10:30:53 PM  

I dont want to be on this planet anymore: Am I free to leave the thread? Am I free to leave the thread? AM I FREE TO LEAVE THE THREAD ??


Yeah! GTFO and when you come back you better be wearing a mask, buster!
 
2020-07-02 10:33:31 PM  

Summercat: I got to the end of the article and went "No farking shiat, Sherlock, I figured this out when I was in highschool."

Also good luck getting those who are screaming about their (fake) rights to listen to any sort of compromise.


What compromise?  Wear a mask or GTFO.  Businesses are private property.
 
2020-07-02 10:41:18 PM  

Jim_Callahan: ... "adolescents" is a weird way to describe a group without a single member under the age of 50 and a median in the 60s.


Citation, please.
 
2020-07-02 10:41:18 PM  

i ignore u: Summercat: I got to the end of the article and went "No farking shiat, Sherlock, I figured this out when I was in highschool."

Also good luck getting those who are screaming about their (fake) rights to listen to any sort of compromise.

What compromise?  Wear a mask or GTFO.  Businesses are private property.


I agree, and I am mocking the author for suggesting it.
 
2020-07-02 10:42:31 PM  
This article disappoints by focusing on statute and jurisprudence instead of underlying philosophy. I mean, the topic is ought to be really fun, but this article is downright whining.

If a large group of people declares this as a right and nothing is done to enforce otherwise, then it is as good as a right. If something declared as a right is not respected as a right (sometimes learning respect requires a knot on the head or some time to think about it), it ceases to be so. Simple as that.
 
2020-07-02 10:49:37 PM  

Wadded Beef: We're a country that has some very old children.


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2020-07-02 10:50:31 PM  
The US ranks number 15 on the human freedom index. Not, too bad.

But I doubt we would rank well on a list of countries who know what there rights actually are.

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2020-07-02 10:52:42 PM  
Idk if it's a right, but I'd like a President that honors the oath of office, because Trump is violating the oath.

The oath involves protecting and defending The Constitution of the United States of America. In the US Constitution is The Progress Clause, which begins, "To promote the progress of science..."

America needs more scientific progress promotion.Lack of science is causing problems. We need a collaboration national culture that peer reviews science and the news, for fun.

If all Americans were Farkers, we'd be doing better.
 
2020-07-02 11:01:16 PM  
As has often been said, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact." I wish more people understood that no right is absolute, and no one whose thought about more deeply than the level of political slogan believes or has every believed that to be the case.
 
2020-07-02 11:04:29 PM  
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2020-07-02 11:04:53 PM  
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2020-07-02 11:12:34 PM  
It has nothing to do with 'rights' and everything to do with respect for your fellow human beings, or rather, their lack of it.
 
2020-07-02 11:21:53 PM  

Wadded Beef: We're a country that has some very old children. of idiots.


/FTFY
 
2020-07-02 11:26:34 PM  
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2020-07-02 11:29:04 PM  

Jim_Callahan: ... "adolescents" is a weird way to describe a group without a single member under the age of 50 and a median in the 60s.


You're right. "farking idiots" is a much better description.
 
2020-07-02 11:32:50 PM  
I'll wear my mask not because our asshole politicians and lefty busy bodies say to.

I'm wearing it because it makes sense... the rest of you can go fark yourselves with a rusty rebar.
 
2020-07-02 11:39:32 PM  
FTFA:  The Supreme Court laid those anxieties bare when it denied the right to an education in 1974, worrying openly that such a right might portend a right to food or shelter.

Well, that's the most depressing thing I've read in weeks.
 
2020-07-03 12:02:39 AM  

dwrash: I'll wear my mask not because our asshole politicians and lefty busy bodies say to.

I'm wearing it because it makes sense... the rest of you can go fark yourselves with a rusty rebar.


At the beginning of the pandemic, a lot of people were against masks because they didn't offer much protection to whomever was wearing it. And that's still true.

The counter argument was that it does a pretty good job protecting others fromyou, if you have it.

So wearing a mask to the office doesn't really make you safer... but, if everyone at the office is mandated to wear one, you are very very much safer.

This is the very definition of how rules can protect us all.

The government should make masks mandatory, and not just assume we all will be as responsible as you are.
 
2020-07-03 12:04:46 AM  
I KNOW MUH RAITS!

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