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2020-07-02 6:15:56 PM  
We done warn you "South will rise again" types.

We were hoping you'd work it out of your redneck little heads.

We gave 150+ years to "get over it"

You done didn't do your homework, so we take your action figures away.


Joan Baez - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
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2020-07-02 7:53:29 PM  
Makes sense. There aren't statues for the Nazi leadership in Germany
 
2020-07-02 10:20:55 PM  
But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?
 
2020-07-02 10:23:02 PM  
"I haven't farked much with the past, but I've farked plenty with the future."
 
2020-07-02 10:25:30 PM  
Overdue.
 
2020-07-02 10:26:31 PM  
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2020-07-02 10:28:39 PM  

Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?


Sometimes it is better if they don't
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2020-07-02 10:31:53 PM  
someone doesn't know the history of who Maury was
 
2020-07-02 10:35:24 PM  
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2020-07-02 10:36:02 PM  
His statue, erected in 1929,

64 years after his cute traitorous escapades.

..........and at the war's end (1865) he went to Mexico, where the emperor Maximilian made him imperial commissioner of immigration so that Maury could establish a Confederate colony there.

/but i guess they erected his statue because he was an oceanographer like Cousteau.
//a very much racist Cousteau.
 
2020-07-02 10:40:57 PM  

Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?


I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."
 
2020-07-02 10:42:40 PM  

resident dystopian: ..........and at the war's end (1865) he went to Mexico, where the emperor Maximilian made him imperial commissioner of immigration so that Maury could establish a Confederate colony there.


There's a wall joke in here somewhere
 
2020-07-02 10:42:41 PM  
I hit a paywall... can someone explain why they're mad about a statue of Matthew McConaugahy?

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2020-07-02 10:54:26 PM  
Some will argue that Obama was divisive and Trump is not. But Trump has forced a reckoning on race and the slavers are losing again.
 
2020-07-02 10:55:48 PM  

b2theory: Makes sense. There aren't statues for the Nazi leadership in Germany


More accurately, there aren't statues of Nazi leaders in England.
 
2020-07-02 10:56:27 PM  

Conservative Evangelical Millennial Cyclist: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

Sometimes it is better if they don't
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"That two-timing biatch!"
 
2020-07-02 10:57:34 PM  

dkulprit: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."


Actually you can say he was a Virginian who was born and raised in the USA, went to West Point, and when he state seceded from the US to create a new country, which they had every right to do under the Constitution, he fought for his State with bravery and skill until he was shot by by accident by his own men while he was performing reconnaissance.
 
2020-07-02 11:06:24 PM  
Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.
 
2020-07-02 11:08:25 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.


Strange though how it is Republicans always fighting to keep Confederate symbols up.
 
2020-07-02 11:11:13 PM  

otherideas: dkulprit: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."

Actually you can say he was a Virginian who was born and raised in the USA, went to West Point, and when he state seceded from the US to create a new country, which they had every right to do under the Constitution, he fought for his State with bravery and skill until he was shot by by accident by his own men while he was performing reconnaissance.


What was that right?
 
2020-07-02 11:11:39 PM  
Actually you can say he was a Virginian who was born and raised in the USA, went to West Point, and when he state seceded from the US to create a new country, which they had every right to do under the Constitution, he fought for his State with bravery and skill until he was shot by by accident by his own men while he was performing reconnaissance.


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2020-07-02 11:19:02 PM  

Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.


Try smarter, not harder.
 
2020-07-02 11:19:46 PM  
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2020-07-02 11:26:19 PM  
Related sidenote: the PDF for the new Deadland RPG rules got released earlier this week, and it features a revised Timeline with the CSA ultimately losing in 1871 instead of the Civil War dragging on into the 1880's and still ongoing in the game with the Confederacy being more 'enlightened' and freeing all their slaves @1870 like the past editions did.

So, yeah. The one RPG that made being a CSA character a 'neutral moral choice' and went out of it's way to craft a 'heritage not hate' view of the CSA gave up that particular fight.
 
2020-07-02 11:40:38 PM  

dkulprit: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."


You could always tell her to watch Gods and Generals, and see him all gross in 19th Century underwear.
 
2020-07-02 11:42:40 PM  

otherideas: dkulprit: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."

Actually you can say he was a Virginian who was born and raised in the USA, went to West Point, and when he state seceded from the US to create a new country, which they had every right to do under the Constitution, he fought for his State with bravery and skill until he was shot by by accident by his own men while he was performing reconnaissance.


Tennessean David Farragut called that "treason".  But what would he know, as someone who stood by his oath as an officer?  Farking traitors, the lot of those gray-backs.
 
2020-07-03 12:00:06 AM  

grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.


1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.
 
2020-07-03 12:04:43 AM  
Byrd 1959-2010 as a Senator (I made an error).
 
2020-07-03 12:05:52 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.


GOP: "We're the Party of Lincoln. It was the Democrats that kept slaves."
Democrats: "Ok, we'll tear down these statues of Democrats then (Confederate losers).
GOP: "MUH HERITAGE!!!!!111!!!!!"
 
2020-07-03 12:16:09 AM  
TRAITORS
 
2020-07-03 12:17:56 AM  

Darth_Lukecash: We done warn you "South will rise again" types.

We were hoping you'd work it out of your redneck little heads.

We gave 150+ years to "get over it"

You done didn't do your homework, so we take your action figures away.


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/nnS9M03F​-fA]


Makes sense Farkers would post the shiatty version of that song, The Band's version is far superior. Levon Helm > Joan Baez
 
2020-07-03 12:23:31 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.


Keep farking that chicken.
 
2020-07-03 12:28:30 AM  

phalamir: b2theory: Makes sense. There aren't statues for the Nazi leadership in Germany

More accurately, there aren't statues of Nazi leaders in England.


We wouldn't put a memorial for allied airmen in Hamburg, even. And those guys were bona fide heroes, it's just that it's NOT BLOODY DONE.
 
2020-07-03 12:40:20 AM  

Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?


fb- was the father, duh!
 
2020-07-03 12:45:28 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.


Not bad.

With respect to Senator Robert Byrd, you left out the part where, in 1952, he announced he had stopped being a member of the Klan.

You also left out the part where he spent his entire national political career apologizing for being a racist when he was young.

Jesse Helms was a noted segregationist. He started his political career as a Democrat, but switched to the Republican party for his 1972 Senate campaign. Why'd he switch, if Democrats were such racists?

Strom Thurmond, also a noted segregationist, started his political career as a Democrat. He switched to the Republican party in 1964, as a direct response to the passage of the Civil Rights Act. Why'd he switch, if Democrats were such racists?

Why did the Republicans welcome either of those two above, if they were so staunchly in favor of the Civil Rights Act?

One last question - If the Civil Rights Act was up for a vote right now, would Republicans be supporting it?
 
2020-07-03 12:48:11 AM  

Erik_Emune: phalamir: b2theory: Makes sense. There aren't statues for the Nazi leadership in Germany

More accurately, there aren't statues of Nazi leaders in England.

We wouldn't put a memorial for allied airmen in Hamburg, even. And those guys were bona fide heroes, it's just that it's NOT BLOODY DONE.


Just to be clear I think that all the heritage arguments are bullshiat.  Germany outlawed all Nazi shiat so that's out the window.  Why the fark would they every put up a statue for allied airmen in Hamburg?

Probably a more fitting comparison would be Ireland.  They erect statues for Irish terrorists.
 
2020-07-03 12:49:08 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.


And Dump used to be a Democrat.  People change.  get over it
 
2020-07-03 12:53:01 AM  
Good.
 
2020-07-03 1:09:16 AM  

Fat Joe Ska: Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.

Keep farking that chicken.


Is chicken code for your mom
 
2020-07-03 1:11:07 AM  

RandolphCarter: One last question - If the Civil Rights Act was up for a vote right now, would Republicans be supporting it?


ROFLMAO
They wouldn't support the ERA and half of them are ladies.
 
2020-07-03 1:11:27 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.


Yeah, maybe you should try reading about the Young Turks; AKA 'When the Democrats and Republicans switched policies on Civil Rights'. All those Southern Democrats that resisted Civil Rights back in '64 suddenly switched to Republicans after the Democratic Party added Civil Rights support to their platform after '64. And all the old school Progressive Republicans got kicked out of the GOP and switched affiliations to the Democrats.
 
2020-07-03 1:12:27 AM  

Phantasmo: Darth_Lukecash: We done warn you "South will rise again" types.

We were hoping you'd work it out of your redneck little heads.

We gave 150+ years to "get over it"

You done didn't do your homework, so we take your action figures away.


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/nnS9M03F​-fA]

Makes sense Farkers would post the shiatty version of that song, The Band's version is far superior. Levon Helm > Joan Baez


Take your whore self back to Whore Island.

If it wasn't for Baez, Dylan would be singing at the Renfair dressed up as a fool, pushing his CD of Hey! Nony, Non Songs.And drinking piss water beer with his lutefisk bagel sandwich.
 
2020-07-03 1:12:44 AM  

Turbo Cojones: Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.

And Dump used to be a Democrat.  People change.  get over it


Dead people don't change. So, yeah, those dead people are marred by their choices. Let it go. Bury them the idolization of them.
 
2020-07-03 1:35:25 AM  

waxbeans: Bury them the idolization of them.


wut?
 
2020-07-03 1:42:46 AM  

dkulprit: Weatherkiss: But how will future generations of Americans know that someone wasn't the father?

I know the feeling one day my daughter is going to ask "daddy, who was stonewall Jackson", and I won't know what to tell her.  I won't have a giant statue of a man displayed heroically to tell her:

"He was a piece shiat who went to war to own people like livestock and beasts of burden."

But without all these statues I will say "who?  I don't know, he may have been have been someone who did something with a stone wall?"

Then she'll say "we learned about him in school, he seemed like a bad man."

And then I'll say, "must be lies, the only history we have is in statues and schools wouldn't teach you about something that didn't have a statue."

And then her crying "but I learned about it today."

And then I'll say "quit lying without statues there's no history, without statues either you're lying or those 'liberal intellectuals' are lying to your now go daddy a Budweiser before he takes off his belt like liars deserve."


Bravo! It looks like this was kind of a whoosh post.

Nice work.
 
2020-07-03 1:45:14 AM  

ReaverZ: waxbeans: Bury them the idolization of them.

wut?


Bury them and  the idolization of them.
 
2020-07-03 1:47:09 AM  

waxbeans: ReaverZ: waxbeans: Bury them the idolization of them.

wut?

Bury them and  the idolization of them.


okay!
 
2020-07-03 2:47:43 AM  
Once all the WASP statues have been taken down, I guess it will be time to deal with teh joooos
 
2020-07-03 3:06:03 AM  

Moniker o' Shame: grumpfuff: Moniker o' Shame: Keep on pulling down those statues of Democrats.  They really have a despicable record where race relations are concerned.

Try smarter, not harder.

1861 Confederate States of America
1862-1968 Jim Crow Laws
1866 Ku Klux Klan
1868 14th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1870 15th Amendment with 0% Democrat support
1937 Hugo Black, a Klansman appointed to the US Supreme Court by F.D. Roosevelt
1942-1946 F.D. Roosevelt orders the internment of Japanese American citizens
1953-1959 Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the Klan elected to the US Senate as a Democrat
1964 Civil Rights Act opposed by more Democrats than Republicans, signed by Democrat President Johnson who called it the "N Act."
2010 Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden gave eulogies for Robert Byrd, referring to him as a mentor.

The facts are just not on your side.  One party was founded on abolition of slavery and the other has a long and brutal hit list of racial problems.


Username checks out...
 
2020-07-03 3:24:04 AM  

Erik_Emune: phalamir: b2theory: Makes sense. There aren't statues for the Nazi leadership in Germany

More accurately, there aren't statues of Nazi leaders in England.

We wouldn't put a memorial for allied airmen in Hamburg, even. And those guys were bona fide heroes, it's just that it's NOT BLOODY DONE.


Terror bombing cities at night doesn't make you a hero. It makes you a war criminal.

The Americans bombed during the day, so they at least could aim at legitimate targets.
 
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