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(MSN)   Delaware, the last to abolish state whippings, will remove its public whipping post Wednesday due to recent events   (msn.com) divider line
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2020-06-30 10:22:11 PM  
The Allman Brothers Band - Whipping Post - 9/23/1970 - Fillmore East (Official)
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2020-06-30 10:28:02 PM  
Devo | Whip It | Official Video
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2020-06-30 10:32:28 PM  
Why remove it?  Take the ass wipes who refuse to wear masks and give them something to think about.
 
2020-06-30 11:03:51 PM  
So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?
 
2020-06-30 11:51:07 PM  

mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?


I think you may have misused the word "logic."
 
2020-07-01 2:06:03 AM  
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2020-07-01 2:50:26 AM  
Geez, that's gonna hurt MBNA collections.
 
2020-07-01 2:51:34 AM  

Cake Hunter: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

I think you may have misused the word "logic."


"By the same logic, should every plate be set with three forks?"
 
2020-07-01 7:37:48 AM  
Now children will never learn the history of the Allman Brothers.  I just hope they leave alone the Tomb of the Unknown Midnight Rider.
 
2020-07-01 7:44:17 AM  
Was it still being used?
 
2020-07-01 7:48:05 AM  

mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?


I do always love when someone mentions logic, but they have never actually understood how it works. Please go on.
 
2020-07-01 7:48:07 AM  
Well shiat. There goes my bucket list.
 
2020-07-01 7:49:49 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?


No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.
 
2020-07-01 7:51:54 AM  

mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?


There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.
 
2020-07-01 7:52:24 AM  
Well, I suppose that leaves Singapore and the Arab world.
 
2020-07-01 7:53:46 AM  
Can we move them to Washington DC?  I can think of a number of people who need public lashings followed by a naked walk through the streets chained and motivated by cattle prod.
 
2020-07-01 7:55:09 AM  

floydw: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

I do always love when someone mentions logic, but they have never actually understood how it works. Please go on.


Whipping post : torture device
Cross : torture device
 
2020-07-01 7:55:30 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.


I'm keeping my statue of Jesus dressed like Bill Gates.
 
2020-07-01 7:58:17 AM  

Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.


I was going to ask whether you'd prefer a few lashes to five years in jail.

You could make the argument that it would be a better form of punishment for the criminal as well as for society in some cases.

If the criminal would get a choice, and decides to take the whipping, he could go back into society and be able to work, be a father, etc. Taxpayers won't have to spend money on keeping him locked up. We could spend money on better things than guards.

Of course, it wouldn't be offered in cases where we need to separate the criminal from society for society's safety. May work better for white collar crimes.

Just something to think about.
 
2020-07-01 7:59:59 AM  
So how long before one can no longer use the public whipping post?

Asking for a friend....
 
2020-07-01 8:02:32 AM  

mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?


That always perplexed me - one of the beliefs of Christianity is that, someday, Christ will return to Earth. Presumably, Christians want him to come visit their religious places, or them specifically. But then they put up a symbol of the torture/execution devise on which Christ was supposedly killed (or wear it on a chain around their necks!).  Is that supposed to attract Christ? Or repel him?

At least the people with the Jesus fish on their car have a better idea.

Although...now that I think about it, maybe the Jesus fish cars are trying to lure Christ in (naturally, he's going to be pretty hungry, and if you provide the fish, he can provide the wine). Get him to follow, head to your church, then BAM! Put that commie bastard back on the cross where he belongs. He doesn't believe in the Prosperity Gospel, he's a friggin' heathen.
 
2020-07-01 8:04:54 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: floydw: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

I do always love when someone mentions logic, but they have never actually understood how it works. Please go on.

Whipping post : torture device
Cross : torture device


The Romans had Jesus whipped before crucifying him; that's why you can sometimes see in Christian iconography a pillar alongside the Cross.  The former never caught on as a meme like the latter though; to a Roman being whipped was terrible but not an unspeakable disgrace like being nailed to a cross to die.

If you want to be "logical" about it, move the post to a churchyard.  It'd fit right in.
 
2020-07-01 8:06:05 AM  

Fancy_Bear: PapermonkeyExpress: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.

I'm keeping my statue of Jesus dressed like Bill Gates.


Why yes, I do have a silicone latex mould for making chocolate Jesuses. I can also make frozen fruit Jesuses. Put that guy in a mason jar with some ice, seltzer, vodak and relaaaaaax.

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2020-07-01 8:09:40 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.

I was going to ask whether you'd prefer a few lashes to five years in jail.

You could make the argument that it would be a better form of punishment for the criminal as well as for society in some cases.

If the criminal would get a choice, and decides to take the whipping, he could go back into society and be able to work, be a father, etc. Taxpayers won't have to spend money on keeping him locked up. We could spend money on better things than guards.

Of course, it wouldn't be offered in cases where we need to separate the criminal from society for society's safety. May work better for white collar crimes.

Just something to think about.


Based on the fact that the US seems set up economically to disadvantage minorities, and they appear suffer higher rates of incarceration and mistreatment, your system would lead to a situation in which minorities were being disproportionally physically...let's say "disciplined", by the State.

Given the context of your history to this point, that seems like a regressive move.
 
2020-07-01 8:12:52 AM  
We, as a species, have failed.

Zeus, if you'd be so kind...one apocalyptic-event asteroid, please. We're done.
 
2020-07-01 8:14:23 AM  

Ostman: SanityIsAFullTimeJob: Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.

I was going to ask whether you'd prefer a few lashes to five years in jail.

You could make the argument that it would be a better form of punishment for the criminal as well as for society in some cases.

If the criminal would get a choice, and decides to take the whipping, he could go back into society and be able to work, be a father, etc. Taxpayers won't have to spend money on keeping him locked up. We could spend money on better things than guards.

Of course, it wouldn't be offered in cases where we need to separate the criminal from society for society's safety. May work better for white collar crimes.

Just something to think about.

Based on the fact that the US seems set up economically to disadvantage minorities, and they appear suffer higher rates of incarceration and mistreatment, your system would lead to a situation in which minorities were being disproportionally physically...let's say "disciplined", by the State.

Given the context of your history to this point, that seems like a regressive move.


It would be an alternative to the sentence. The convict would get a choice.
 
2020-07-01 8:16:29 AM  
Good example of something that deserves a plaque describing it.

Once it's not there, people will forget this was a thing.

Honestly:  how many of you knew that there were public whippings in that state until 1952?  How many of you realized that whippings were something that occurred as part of our legal system outside of slavery?
 
2020-07-01 8:17:32 AM  

BizarreMan: Why remove it?  Take the ass wipes who refuse to wear masks and give them something to think about.


I like this idea, and sell tickets
 
2020-07-01 8:18:05 AM  

Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.


Lashes please
 
2020-07-01 8:20:34 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.


That's why I like the Eastern Orthodox Jesus. Maybe just needs a little tan, but looks Middle Eastern enough:

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2020-07-01 8:24:28 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: It would be an alternative to the sentence. The convict would get a choice.


Honestly: It would depend on what the "Jail" is like. What of the current day hell pits? Lashes. That's easy.

But if the jail was more of a dormitory on a (locked down) campus, and there were classes that would help me obtain a career? Jail.
 
2020-07-01 8:26:02 AM  
Made sure to send that to my parents that live in Delaware and welcome them to the 21st century. I have driven by that post before in Georgetown DE but never knew what it was for.
 
2020-07-01 8:31:04 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?


Not since the 60's.
 
2020-07-01 8:31:11 AM  
I'd take delight in traveling to one of my childhood homes and burning down the switch bush that produced so many of the stripes across my legs in the mid 70s.

Yeah, I had to go get my own, and it better be a good one.
 
2020-07-01 8:32:27 AM  

Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.


The correct answer is : both are cruel and unusual-why should rich people get spared the lash in preference to poor?
 
2020-07-01 8:33:12 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.


Dude, you can just say "White." And yeah, it's racist AF.
 
2020-07-01 8:33:27 AM  

SBinRR: I'd take delight in traveling to one of my childhood homes and burning down the switch bush that produced so many of the stripes across my legs in the mid 70s.

Yeah, I had to go get my own, and it better be a good one.


I knew the 70s were a time of unruly pubes...but damn.
 
2020-07-01 8:45:44 AM  
How about whuppings?
 
2020-07-01 9:13:27 AM  

foo monkey: Fancy_Bear: PapermonkeyExpress: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

There are those who are calling for the removal of statues of Christ that portray Him as "Westernized" so you're not too far off.

I'm keeping my statue of Jesus dressed like Bill Gates.

Why yes, I do have a silicone latex mould for making chocolate Jesuses. I can also make frozen fruit Jesuses. Put that guy in a mason jar with some ice, seltzer, vodak and relaaaaaax.

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Maybe my phone screen needs to be cleaned but
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2020-07-01 9:46:53 AM  

SBinRR: I'd take delight in traveling to one of my childhood homes and burning down the switch bush that produced so many of the stripes across my legs in the mid 70s.

Yeah, I had to go get my own, and it better be a good one.


Your parents failed you.

They are supposed to assign a sibling the task of picking the switch.

Eventually you'd learn some game theory at least.
 
2020-07-01 9:48:03 AM  

Cdr.Murdock: Well,

Delaware DID have a senator that supported a law that "does everything but hang people for jawywalking".

I mean, disregard the mass incarceration, the three strikes laws, and "super predator" comments and just consider the optics of hanging someone for what is essentially a traffic ticket.

I mean, there's no connection in former slave states between hangings, lynching's, and systemic racism.

Things that were said in 1992 when someone that smart either should have known better, or knew better and pandering to the racist white vote in his state.

How is this guy NOT considered a racist?


Because he's a Democrat, and that can wokewash even people like former Senator Robert Byrd.
 
2020-07-01 10:13:07 AM  

gar1013: SBinRR: I'd take delight in traveling to one of my childhood homes and burning down the switch bush that produced so many of the stripes across my legs in the mid 70s.

Yeah, I had to go get my own, and it better be a good one.

Your parents failed you.

They are supposed to assign a sibling the task of picking the switch.

Eventually you'd learn some game theory at least.


The age gap was too large.
 
2020-07-01 10:22:14 AM  

Somacandra: Destructor: PapermonkeyExpress: Was it still being used?

No.

Would you accept a $5000 zoning violation or 3 lashes?

Yeah, our snowflake culture answers that question for us.

The correct answer is : both are cruel and unusual-why should rich people get spared the lash in preference to poor?


Actually, it would probably be the rich people who would go for the lash. 1) Because they don't know how painful it is. (Doesn't look too bad in the movies!) And B) Because they didn't get rich by spending money.

But from the community's point of view. They need the money. More money coming in through fines, less they have to tax.
 
2020-07-01 10:32:02 AM  

Destructor: Because they didn't get rich by spending money.


that's such a silly thing to say.  You can *only* get rich by spending money(1).  Preferably someone else's money, sure, but any loan is going to want a personal equity injection.  Have a project that costs $1,000,000?  Better have $150,000-300,000 of your own to pitch in.

//1: unless you win a literal lottery or something, I guess
 
2020-07-01 10:34:10 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: So how long before one can no longer use the public whipping post?

Asking for a friend....


They're not taking down the one on Folsom Street in SF, so your 'friend' still has time.

/what?
//what??
///I'm mean I've heard about it...
 
2020-07-01 10:35:12 AM  
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2020-07-01 11:16:49 AM  
I like the idea of bringing it back.  Specifically for white collar crimes.  But if we can't get that, mandatory part of taking a felony plea deal.  Want to plea down a first degree murder charge to manslaughter, take a whipping before going to prison.  Want to plea down stealing millions of dollars, take a whipping before heading off to prison.
 
2020-07-01 11:56:37 AM  
Now where will I go when I've been a Baaad boy? ;)
 
2020-07-01 12:23:30 PM  
Frank Zappa - Montana (Whipping Floss) Live in Helsinki
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2020-07-01 12:44:37 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: floydw: mr_a: So by the same logic, we should remove crosses from churches?

I do always love when someone mentions logic, but they have never actually understood how it works. Please go on.

Whipping post : torture device
Cross : torture device


I read somewhere, that if there was a second coming of Christ who died on a cross, he might not make his presence known once he sees all the crosses decorating the people and buildings.
 
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