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(NASA)   Imagine a place were Winter only lasts nine hours   (exoplanets.nasa.gov) divider line
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2020-06-30 5:36:40 PM  
No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?
 
2020-06-30 6:13:54 PM  
Opposite of Vermont, then?
 
2020-06-30 6:25:08 PM  
No can do.  Our seasons are June, July, August and Winter.
 
2020-06-30 6:30:45 PM  
"Winter is coming."

"OK it's done."
 
2020-06-30 6:37:57 PM  

WoolyManwich: No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?


Pretty sure that Spring and Fall have to be around the same length just by mathematical necessity, so no.
 
2020-06-30 6:54:19 PM  

LrdPhoenix: WoolyManwich: No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?

Pretty sure that Spring and Fall have to be around the same length just by mathematical necessity, so no.


Given such weird lengths of time, it would then depend on what it means to be spring, summer, fall and winter. Other than that, I think it's still possible, it just needs a really wild precession of the axis so that it's timed just right. It might not be able to last more than one or two years, though.
 
2020-06-30 7:10:42 PM  

WoolyManwich: No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?


Assuming the usual definitions of the seasons using equinoxes and solstices, then such a place does not exist.  If you use some non-astronomical definition, then all bets are off.  And it is unlikely that astronomers could do the measurements for your new definition so it would be rather moot as well.

The 9 hour figure BTW is just the length of the year divided by 4.
 
2020-06-30 7:12:25 PM  
In the constellation of Cygnus, there lurks a mysterious, invisible force: The Black Hole of Cygnus X-1.
Six stars of the northern cross, in mourning for their sister's loss, in a final flash of glory, nevermore to grace the night.

There's also this planet thing they're talking about in the article.
 
2020-06-30 7:13:12 PM  
"The Year Winter Lasted Nine Minutes," by Steve Martin:

Well, we were all set for a long winter. We got the wood out; we got the animals barned up. It was the last of November and we felt winter coming and suddenly we saw the storm start to hit, and it was fierce. We rushed inside and got the fire goin', and Ma started some broth. Then about nine minutes later, it was spring. Dangdest thing I ever saw. There we were, standin' outside in our mufflers an' sheepskin coats, seein' the birds chirpin' and the flowers bloomin' and it was ninety degrees. Then, we all just looked at each other for about two weeks.
 
2020-06-30 7:56:43 PM  
It's called Phoenix, and I already moved out of AZ once. Not going back to that festering shiathole.
 
2020-06-30 7:58:07 PM  

WoolyManwich: No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?


Yep. We've had a mild summer so far. It actually keeps getting down into the 40s when it rains, and hasn't hit 100 yet, which is not normal for Salt Lake, and we still already kind of miss winter.
 
2020-06-30 8:15:07 PM  
Imagine a place where it only took nine years to write the Winds of Winter.
 
2020-06-30 8:16:41 PM  
It's called Florida. And those 9 hours aren't even consecutive.
 
2020-06-30 8:27:02 PM  
KELT9b. I dub the rotisserie.
 
2020-06-30 8:29:19 PM  

LrdPhoenix: WoolyManwich: No thanks, I love winter. And I miss actually having winters in SE PA. Winters around here have pretty much become ~40°-55° weather with rain and maybe 1 or 2 accumulating snowfalls that melt within a few days. My ideal place to live would be Autumn- 6.5 months, Winter- 3.5 months, Spring and Summer- 1 month each. Does such a place exist?

Pretty sure that Spring and Fall have to be around the same length just by mathematical necessity, so no.


You're not actually going to get any seasonal variations on a planet like that
 
2020-06-30 8:34:36 PM  
I'm from Mississippi, is there a place where Summer only lasts 9 hours?
 
2020-06-30 10:27:46 PM  

Nintenfreak: I'm from Mississippi, is there a place where Summer only lasts 9 hours?


Oddly enough, the planet in question.
 
2020-06-30 10:29:19 PM  
I pretty much gave up trying to find something that wouldn't melt in the daytime temperature of 7,800 degrees Fahrenheit.

Carbon, sort of, since it passes directly from solid to gas.
 
2020-07-01 12:10:08 AM  

NathanAllen: I pretty much gave up trying to find something that wouldn't melt in the daytime temperature of 7,800 degrees Fahrenheit.

Carbon, sort of, since it passes directly from solid to gas.


I dunno how likely it would be for this thing to have a significant atmosphere. I'd guess from playing around a bit with a Boltzmann distribution that anything up to like Neon would escape, and the heavier metals would form a haze. Without pressure, liquids won't form, so I think damn near everything would sublimate

*i am not a planetary scientist
 
2020-07-01 1:40:57 AM  
Well at (from the article) 7,800 degrees Fahrenheit (4,300 C) I would welcome for once.
 
2020-07-01 8:23:26 AM  
All Winter in a Day?
 
2020-07-01 11:40:38 AM  
As opposed to nine seasons?
 
2020-07-01 12:18:13 PM  
If the amount of snow we get in a season all fell in 9 hours, it would be a sight to see.

(Average 124", it would be almost 14" of a snow an hour)
 
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