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(Wired)   Proposal: Any Facebook group exceeding a certain membership threshold -- say, 5,000 people -- should be automatically made public   (wired.com) divider line
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721 clicks; posted to Geek » on 30 Jun 2020 at 7:38 PM (12 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-06-30 5:36:55 PM  
That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.
 
2020-06-30 6:32:05 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.


How odd. Usually techbro website solutions are infallible. I'm starting to think that they really don't know everything.
 
2020-06-30 7:44:52 PM  
But then people will see all the terrible meme sh*tposting groups I'm in

/starship troopers bugposting and community greendale posting are 90% of my reasons for fb
 
2020-06-30 8:02:09 PM  
Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.
 
2020-06-30 8:03:49 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.


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2020-06-30 8:08:14 PM  

AntonChigger: AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.

notsureifserious.jpg


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2020-06-30 8:08:46 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.


If they really wanted to do it, they would find a way. Oh, some shiatty little Nazi group is always at 49xx members? Poof, gone.
 
2020-06-30 8:10:14 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.


Not to mention the discussion forum software that was popular prior to Fb, will take off again.  And in that case, the Nazis (or whatever) will be the web site owner.  The closed group will simply be a way of directing people to the actual site.
 
2020-06-30 8:13:50 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Not to mention the discussion forum software that was popular prior to Fb, will take off again. And in that case, the Nazis (or whatever) will be the web site owner. The closed group will simply be a way of directing people to the actual site.


I'm kinda ok with that.  It just means that the bots and disinformation people that use FB for their stuff will have to work harder to push that disinformation.
 
2020-06-30 8:14:03 PM  
Far too small a number.  I run a Community Forum on Facebook for my little rural community and we have over 6,000 members.  We keep the community private to keep it relevant to local affairs.
 
2020-06-30 8:14:16 PM  
I'm sure the large rape survivor support groups will be very excited to open up to the public
 
2020-06-30 8:19:15 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.


Driver's licenses should also be added to that.  Public transport passes too.  Public speaking to crowds larger than 42 people and purchase of postage stamps will need to be restrained.  Procreation passes to be extremely limited.
 
2020-06-30 8:20:42 PM  

TheMysteriousStranger: Pocket Ninja: That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.

Not to mention the discussion forum software that was popular prior to Fb, will take off again.  And in that case, the Nazis (or whatever) will be the web site owner.  The closed group will simply be a way of directing people to the actual site.


We could solve this with internet posting licenses.  And those that have licenses are banned from encryption.  With the punishment for unlicensed posting or a licensed poster using encryption or posting anonymously being death.  And not a quick painless death.  A slow death streamed on the government youtube page, and those awaiting trial for their illegal listing are forced to eat the raw steaming corpse of the illegal poster.
 
2020-06-30 8:24:10 PM  

Tom Marvolo Bombadil: AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.

Driver's licenses should also be added to that.  Public transport passes too.  Public speaking to crowds larger than 42 people and purchase of postage stamps will need to be restrained.  Procreation passes to be extremely limited.


You got no argument from me!

However, the notion of public speaking is weird.  There shouldn't be any.  Only essential people doing essential things should be out in public.  And speaking, unless deemed essential by the government, isn't essential.

It will be glorious.
 
2020-06-30 8:32:14 PM  
A private group with over 5000 members is already public or will be soon once one of the many moles, journalists, pranksters and other Internet chaos fans posts their screenshots.
 
2020-06-30 8:33:13 PM  
I say if the US can be destroyed by some online chat groups, perhaps it's time to go?
 
2020-06-30 8:48:14 PM  
I am in 2 large Facebook groups.  1 is for a hobby, 1 is for owners of the car I drive.  If it wasn't for those 2 groups I probably would have bailed on Facebook.

Both groups are moderated and have very strong content policies.  The mods break out the ban hammers VERY quickly for political stuff and so everything stays on topic.

If they were open, then spam troll bots would likely ruin them.
 
2020-06-30 9:37:56 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.


That's racist.

The US internet will be even more disproportionately white and Asian and other minority will fail the test at higher rates.

That will be proof that your test is racist and you are racist for supporting it.
 
2020-06-30 9:59:12 PM  
100,000 Scammers and spammers liked this post.

I would have to disagree, whilst my Facebook group (motorcycles for sale) is only at 700 members, I vet the members and delete posts against the rules, wherein the rules are "If you want offers, post an indicative price" and "If you set it to $1, I will remove your post and message you to buy it for $1" because I am sick of the existing groups where every second post says, "Free", "$1" or "$123456".

If I suddenly hit that magic number, it would be impossible to tell those people go to fark themselves or suddenly I'm vetting hundreds of posts instead of singular.
 
2020-06-30 10:36:36 PM  
I am in some physician groups. The content I get is very valuable from an educational standpoint but should not be broadcast to the public.

That said I have left one group of physicians because I was afraid that anyone linked to the group would be flamed if anything ever got out.

Those guys were worse than fark and had poor humor.
 
2020-06-30 10:59:42 PM  
Sounds like a solution in search of a problem.
 
2020-06-30 11:46:28 PM  
Ok, Karen.
 
2020-07-01 12:05:12 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.


Quite possibly the worst idea set I've heard this month.
 
2020-07-01 4:19:46 AM  

Pocket Ninja: That just means the bad ones will all automatically lock at 4,999, create a new group, and just cross post everything.


Facebook should set the limit to 4998 then.
 
2020-07-01 4:53:09 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: AntonChigger: AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.

notsureifserious.jpg

Serious.jpg


What exactly would this accomplish?
 
2020-07-01 6:21:31 AM  

Livinglush: Far too small a number.  I run a Community Forum on Facebook for my little rural community and we have over 6,000 members.  We keep the community private to keep it relevant to local affairs.


Slippery slopes and such. That's the problem with pie in the sky ideas. Limiting wealth, UBI, 95% tax rates? Limiting groupggroup memberships? Who gets to decide the limits?
 
2020-07-01 6:52:16 AM  
It would make trolling domestic abuse groups easier. I say go for it.
 
2020-07-01 8:32:39 AM  

AmbassadorBooze: Just make internet licenses.  Such that a person must pass a very hard test, and probationary period to be able to even post online.  Yes, this means I might not be posting any more.  And only essential people posting essential things.  Probably on 20% of the population should even be allowed to post online.  Make the internet a just something people pull down to their screen, hardly any push at all.  Just credit card info to buy things.

Same with cell phones.  Anything other than essential people making essential calls should be banned.

We need to lock down everything, hard.  We need to let the earth heal.


But then Georgia will come along and let you have a license with just a note from your mom.
 
2020-07-01 10:52:18 AM  
There are Facebook groups for homeowner associations in our RTP area of North Carolina who have more than 5000 members (e.g. 3000 homes x 2 parents per household).   They only want people who live in the sub-division to be members of the group and the moderators want to maintain their strong policies against improper & off-topic content.

The limit certainly should be higher than 5000 people to accommodate many larger groups with a geographic or neighborhood focus. The other question being if this type of proposed policy has any benefits whatsoever in practical application.
 
2020-07-01 10:56:20 AM  

DerAppie: It would make trolling domestic abuse groups easier. I say go for it.


https://lmgtfy.com/?q=domestic+abuse+​g​roups

?
 
2020-07-01 10:57:44 AM  
There are any number of valid reasons to be anonymous or private, yet include a lot of people.

This idea is woefully ignorant, naive, etc.
 
2020-07-01 12:03:15 PM  
What if it is a group for high IQ people, you wouldn't want sub 130's poking around in there

(Obviously just for example, facebook and high IQ's don't mix)
 
2020-07-01 8:00:40 PM  

Livinglush: Far too small a number.  I run a Community Forum on Facebook for my little rural community and we have over 6,000 members.  We keep the community private to keep it relevant to local affairs.


Publishing member list and allowing random people aren't linked at the hip.  You would still be able to keep everything local by simply not approving non-local members.
 
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