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(Vox)   KY Primary: Booker done, McGrath to take on King Koopa   (vox.com) divider line
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2020-06-30 12:46:01 PM  
As long as someone kicks the ever-living fark out of the Gottervdammt turtle, I don't give too many farks who they are...
 
2020-06-30 12:46:13 PM  
Hope she beats Mitch
 
2020-06-30 12:46:23 PM  
This is why you don't declare victory before the votes are done being counted
 
2020-06-30 12:46:38 PM  
The first real test after the disaster of 2016. Vote out the turtle or expect the flaming dumpster to continue.
 
2020-06-30 12:47:35 PM  
Eh, she might be a bit of a conservative for a Democrat, but anyone who caucuses with the Dems is better than any Republican, and certainly better than McConnell.
 
2020-06-30 12:47:36 PM  
I hope she brings Booker onto her staff
 
2020-06-30 12:48:48 PM  
I hope the Booker bros come out to vote for her (and Biden) in November.
 
2020-06-30 12:48:50 PM  
Haven't been following this. Is there any expectation that McGrath OR Booker would have felled the turtle?

I mean, one definitely hopes, but realistically?
 
2020-06-30 12:49:07 PM  
Honestly, this is Kentucky so while a primary win would have been interesting it almost certainly would've assured that Mitch stays were he is.

Now it's like a 5% chance that they can knock him out, at the very least this should mean that Republicans are going to have to pour a lot more money into this race.
 
2020-06-30 12:49:58 PM  
It's 2020 so yeah, this was about what I expected; a Trumper beating a Democrat in their own primary.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:13 PM  

NateAsbestos: Haven't been following this. Is there any expectation that McGrath OR Booker would have felled the turtle?

I mean, one definitely hopes, but realistically?


No.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:52 PM  

SamFlagg: Honestly, this is Kentucky so while a primary win would have been interesting it almost certainly would've assured that Mitch stays were he is.

Now it's like a 5% chance that they can knock him out, at the very least this should mean that Republicans are going to have to pour a lot more money into this race.


I suspect the Chinese sluice gates, have already opened for the Turtle.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:19 PM  

Smoking GNU: The first real test after the disaster of 2016. Vote out the turtle or expect the flaming dumpster to continue.



The Dems will win the Senate if the cheating isn't too outrageous.  But they will only have 50 or 51 seats, so they will have to go nuclear on the filibuster rule if they want to accomplish anything.  But once that Rubicon is crossed it will be disaster for when the Repubs get back into power in 2028.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:26 PM  
I'm sad that they call her a "moderate democratic nominee" since that means he would happily vote for Republican stupid legislation that sucks and is anything but moderate.
 
MFK
2020-06-30 12:51:34 PM  
I feel pretty good about this one. She has a real shot at this. Mitch is one of the most unpopular senators.
https://morningconsult.com/senator-ra​n​kings/ While people like to pretend that this is "most/least popular" nationwide, it's actually "popularity in their own state" which is a VERY important metric when it comes to unseating Mitch if he is 50% disapprove in Kentucky. I guess we'll see how this shakes out but I'll definitely be donating more to McGrath this fall to do what I can to help.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:35 PM  
delicious!


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2020-06-30 12:51:49 PM  

NateAsbestos: Haven't been following this. Is there any expectation that McGrath OR Booker would have felled the turtle?

I mean, one definitely hopes, but realistically?


Does been polling neck-and-...necks... with him for the last month or so.
 
2020-06-30 12:52:05 PM  

anjin-san: This is why you don't declare victory before the votes are done being counted


or bake a cake

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2020-06-30 12:52:07 PM  
Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.
 
2020-06-30 12:52:42 PM  

NobleHam: Eh, she might be a bit of a conservative for a Democrat, but anyone who caucuses with the Dems is better than any Republican, and certainly better than McConnell.


This.
A technical majority is still a majority. It gets you the Senate leadership and the ability to bring legislation to the floor and approve appointments. If she wins it's one step closer.

In this case she probably has the best chance.
 
2020-06-30 12:52:45 PM  
She is a Republican disguised as a democrat.  That said, enough independents and moderate republicans figure that out by November, she could beat McConnel.  Even if we so not take back the senate, it would still give the opportunity for a  on obstructionist senate leader.
 
2020-06-30 12:53:06 PM  
Booker snot.

That'd been my headline, stupid subby.
 
2020-06-30 12:53:41 PM  
She couldn't beat Andy Barr in Lexington. Good luck to beating Yertle.
 
2020-06-30 12:53:42 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


Or, hear me out, maybe the people in Kentucky know better than you what they need.
 
2020-06-30 12:54:04 PM  
Dems never make any sense. Why should a pro Trump Republican vote for a Pro Trump Democrat over another Pro Trump Republican?

And why should it matter which pro Trump politician wins to a Democrat?
 
2020-06-30 12:54:09 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


States like Kentucky need w/e the hell actually represents them well. I'm not particularly convinced that is McGrath in this case.
 
2020-06-30 12:54:10 PM  
Thank goodness. Otherwise running a Left-Wing Candidate in Beet-Red Kentucky would have been a suicide mission.

Note that D turnout was significantly higher than R.
 
2020-06-30 12:54:38 PM  
I have a question, though. Those hundreds of bills passed in the house that went on to sit on turtles' desk, never being touched, what happens to those after he's voted out (if)? Do they expire? Is there some sort of time limit on bills like that? Or will the person taking over from turtle get the opportunity to see those bills get voted on in the senate?
 
2020-06-30 12:55:40 PM  

AuralArgument: I hope she brings Booker onto her staff


She better. She will need every last one of those Louisville and Lexington votes.
 
2020-06-30 12:55:46 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


They don't but the fact that a progressive came that close to a centrist, especially one who didn't have the national recognition the McGrath had is great news.
 
2020-06-30 12:55:59 PM  

SamFlagg: Honestly, this is Kentucky so while a primary win would have been interesting it almost certainly would've assured that Mitch stays were he is.

Now it's like a 5% chance that they can knock him out, at the very least this should mean that Republicans are going to have to pour a lot more money into this race.


Booker polled way better against Mitch but polls showed them both losing anyway

It would be fun for Mitch to lose but replacing him with another Manchin isn't helpful
 
2020-06-30 12:56:32 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


It isn't about what they need. It's about who they will vote for.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:38 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


Too bad no one told them how to vote correctly, amirite?
 
2020-06-30 12:56:43 PM  

winedrinkingman: She is a Republican disguised as a democrat.  That said, enough independents and moderate republicans figure that out by November, she could beat McConnel.  Even if we so not take back the senate, it would still give the opportunity for a  on obstructionist senate leader.


Why, it's almost as if people looked at the candidates themselves, determined that the people calling McGrath "pro Trump" were lying carpetbaggers who didn't have their best interests in mind, and voted accordingly.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:54 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


Sure, expecting back woods hicks to just vote in a Progressive is stupid.  If this choice is between a moderate Democrat and the Turtle, anybody with two functioning brain cells to rub together will always choose the moderate Democrat.
 
2020-06-30 12:57:22 PM  

ElwoodCuse: SamFlagg: Honestly, this is Kentucky so while a primary win would have been interesting it almost certainly would've assured that Mitch stays were he is.

Now it's like a 5% chance that they can knock him out, at the very least this should mean that Republicans are going to have to pour a lot more money into this race.

Booker polled way better against Mitch but polls showed them both losing anyway

It would be fun for Mitch to lose but replacing him with another Manchin isn't helpful


Citation on those polls.

McGrath is shown in a statistical tie and often in an actual tie.

Show me Booker leading McConnell from a reputable (read: No Left Wing Rasderpen Unskewed Polls) source
 
2020-06-30 12:57:24 PM  
I don't dislike her, but wouldn't have voted for her in the primary. Not my state tho, I have my own Hickenlooper problems to worry about today. I'd still vote for either in the end.
 
2020-06-30 12:57:50 PM  

Brokenseas: Smoking GNU: The first real test after the disaster of 2016. Vote out the turtle or expect the flaming dumpster to continue.


The Dems will win the Senate if the cheating isn't too outrageous.  But they will only have 50 or 51 seats, so they will have to go nuclear on the filibuster rule if they want to accomplish anything.  But once that Rubicon is crossed it will be disaster for when the Repubs get back into power in 2028.


Whoever funnied this, your optimism is adorable.
 
2020-06-30 12:57:53 PM  

Public Call Box: SamFlagg: Honestly, this is Kentucky so while a primary win would have been interesting it almost certainly would've assured that Mitch stays were he is.

Now it's like a 5% chance that they can knock him out, at the very least this should mean that Republicans are going to have to pour a lot more money into this race.

I suspect the Chinese sluice gates, have already opened for the Turtle.


That's a rather crude nickname for Mitch's wife.
 
2020-06-30 12:57:57 PM  

anjin-san: This is why you don't declare victory before the votes are done being counted


whatever dude im writing in VETERAN MAYOR PETE
 
2020-06-30 12:58:00 PM  

udhq: whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.

Or, hear me out, maybe the people in Kentucky know better than you what they need.


So you're all good with the ninja turtle then?  Cause that's what the stupid, stupid, dipshiat majority in Kentucky has been putting in office.
 
2020-06-30 12:58:14 PM  

whidbey: Lame that it was that close.

States like Kentucky don't need Centrist Democrats, they need progressives like Booker.

Fight me.


See this: This is how you elect only
Republicans anywhere to the Right of Virginia/North Carolina and ensure Republican control of the Senate (and therefore the Supreme Court)
 
2020-06-30 12:58:26 PM  

Tarl3k: anybody with two functioning brain cells to rub together will


I see where your argument breaks down.
 
2020-06-30 12:58:29 PM  

Smoking GNU: I have a question, though. Those hundreds of bills passed in the house that went on to sit on turtles' desk, never being touched, what happens to those after he's voted out (if)? Do they expire? Is there some sort of time limit on bills like that? Or will the person taking over from turtle get the opportunity to see those bills get voted on in the senate?


Every bill in Congress expires at the end of the Congressional term (early Jan. 2021) and must be introduced anew and voted upon in the next Congress (beginning late Jan. 2021).
 
2020-06-30 12:58:42 PM  

ElwoodCuse: It would be fun for Mitch to lose but replacing him with another Manchin isn't helpful


Anything that gets Mitch out of power is helpful.
 
2020-06-30 12:59:07 PM  
udhq:

Or, hear me out, maybe the people in Kentucky know better than you what they need.

Given they keep electing Moscow Mitch, and elected Trump by a 2 to 1 margin, I find your conclusion to be questionable.
 
2020-06-30 12:59:19 PM  

Uzzah: Smoking GNU: I have a question, though. Those hundreds of bills passed in the house that went on to sit on turtles' desk, never being touched, what happens to those after he's voted out (if)? Do they expire? Is there some sort of time limit on bills like that? Or will the person taking over from turtle get the opportunity to see those bills get voted on in the senate?

Every bill in Congress expires at the end of the Congressional term (early Jan. 2021) and must be introduced anew and voted upon in the next Congress (beginning late Jan. 2021).


Ahhh. Thanks for the answer. And it figures, really.
 
2020-06-30 12:59:27 PM  
It would be nice if an article about the final election results included the final election results.

In any event I hope Booker campaigns for her; if Booker had won I'd want McGrath to campaign for him. McConnell is the dirtiest campaigner around and is hard to beat.
 
2020-06-30 12:59:39 PM  

AuralArgument: I hope she brings Booker onto her staff


During the general campaign, yes. But I want him to stay in Louisville and make a push for replacing Mayor Fischer in 2022 (or earlier, if he continues to implode).
 
2020-06-30 1:00:26 PM  

sirgrim: I don't dislike her, but wouldn't have voted for her in the primary. Not my state tho, I have my own Hickenlooper problems to worry about today. I'd still vote for either in the end.


Please tell me you voted for Romanoff.  I dropped off my ballot for him a couple of weeks ago...
 
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