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2020-06-30 10:18:35 AM  
No, a Canadian flag patch on your backpack isn't enough.
 
2020-06-30 10:25:48 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: No, a Canadian flag patch on your backpack isn't enough.


How about a Canadian passport?
 
2020-06-30 11:07:09 AM  
The US, Brazil and Russia have made it on a list of countries whose nationals are indefinitely banned from entering the bloc.

I see we're in good company.
 
2020-06-30 11:12:03 AM  
See, libs!  I told you that President Trump would once again make the world fear America.
 
2020-06-30 11:36:39 AM  
Well, what would expect? It's covid paradise over there.
 
2020-06-30 11:36:49 AM  
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2020-06-30 11:38:11 AM  
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Europe, you son of a biatch!
 
2020-06-30 11:38:49 AM  
But, what will Trump do if he wants to buy another eastern European wife?
 
2020-06-30 11:39:43 AM  
They are very smart to ban the US right now.


The Twitter response from trump should be interesting.
 
2020-06-30 11:39:53 AM  
Does that include mango mantits?
 
2020-06-30 11:40:28 AM  
Remember when the US used to be respected?
 
2020-06-30 11:41:20 AM  
Donnie: "you can't do that! Banning people from specific countries is against international signed agreement law thingies!"
 
2020-06-30 11:43:22 AM  

xanadian: The US, Brazil and Russia have made it on a list of countries whose nationals are indefinitely banned from entering the bloc.

I see we're in good company.


When you find out those are the three countries that are the most successful in our cage fighting competitions, the reality of Europe's rationale becomes very clear.

Given what the twenty-first century has taught and provided us on the matter of the martial arts, it would be a national catastrophe if a plane was to fly into Europe from one of those countries.  The passengers proceeded to pull guard and perform heel hooks on all pedestrian traffic and the rate of leg injuries would skyrocket.

Europe knows that the average person on their streets is a three-stripe purple belt, at-best, and they have used this plague as a convenient excuse to deny the truth, which is that the United States and Brazil and Russia are for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally.

But this is what happens when you feminize countries with socialism, they live vicariously through the collective, and the result is that the European Union, collectively, would be helpless if they were cornered in a back alley by a grandma with an appropriately-sized walking stick.

It's no wonder that we had to bail out Europe when Europe tried to take over Europe during the World Wars.  Only a feminized socialist such as yourself would object to American/Russian/Brazilian superiority.  Goddamn feminized socialists.  Your feminized socialism makes me sick.
 
2020-06-30 11:44:16 AM  
Seriously EU? You're going to allow Russians and Brazilians in?!? I guess they like to have full employment for their contact tracing teams because that's going to keep them very busy.
 
2020-06-30 11:44:25 AM  
Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.
 
2020-06-30 11:45:07 AM  

Mike_LowELL: xanadian: The US, Brazil and Russia have made it on a list of countries whose nationals are indefinitely banned from entering the bloc.

I see we're in good company.

When you find out those are the three countries that are the most successful in our cage fighting competitions, the reality of Europe's rationale becomes very clear.

Given what the twenty-first century has taught and provided us on the matter of the martial arts, it would be a national catastrophe if a plane was to fly into Europe from one of those countries.  The passengers proceeded to pull guard and perform heel hooks on all pedestrian traffic and the rate of leg injuries would skyrocket.

Europe knows that the average person on their streets is a three-stripe purple belt, at-best, and they have used this plague as a convenient excuse to deny the truth, which is that the United States and Brazil and Russia are for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally.

But this is what happens when you feminize countries with socialism, they live vicariously through the collective, and the result is that the European Union, collectively, would be helpless if they were cornered in a back alley by a grandma with an appropriately-sized walking stick.

It's no wonder that we had to bail out Europe when Europe tried to take over Europe during the World Wars.  Only a feminized socialist such as yourself would object to American/Russian/Brazilian superiority.  Goddamn feminized socialists.  Your feminized socialism makes me sick.


I'm out of booze.  Mind sharing?
 
2020-06-30 11:45:44 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Donnie: "you can't do that! Banning people from specific countries is against international signed agreement law thingies!"


More like "Ban us? BAN US?! NO! WE BAN YOU!!1" *stomps off to write tell some kid in the hall to draft an executive order...
 
2020-06-30 11:45:47 AM  
I wouldn't want Americans in my country either.  Have you seen us?
 
2020-06-30 11:46:18 AM  
Nevermind, I misread that as countries being allowed in...
 
2020-06-30 11:47:43 AM  

pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.
 
2020-06-30 11:47:53 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Remember when the US used to be respected?


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2020-06-30 11:47:58 AM  
Anyone who wants to get on an airplane during a worldwide epidemic is an idiot anyways.

As for this hurting my American feelings, meh.
 
2020-06-30 11:48:20 AM  

robodog: Seriously EU? You're going to allow Russians and Brazilians in?!? I guess they like to have full employment for their contact tracing teams because that's going to keep them very busy.


You read the list backwards. Russians and Brazilians aren't allowed in either.
 
2020-06-30 11:49:01 AM  

GrogSmash: I'm out of booze. Mind sharing?


Go for it, I don't drink.  I get high on life, as I madly shiatpost on this messageboard, to the chagrin of individuals who are simply attempting to discuss what they imagine to be the important things that define our world, getting madder and madder as I calmly explain how the Trump Train is coming into Fark Station, and Conductor Donald smiles madly as the guy down the track pulls the switch, assuring that instead of hitting one progressive, Donald will hit five progressives.  It's lit.
 
2020-06-30 11:49:42 AM  
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2020-06-30 11:50:07 AM  

pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.



This statement completely ignores the hundred years of south american interference and regimes the US has overthrown and the poverty, war, and economic instability the US has caused to keep S. America from challenging the US' global power.
 
2020-06-30 11:50:54 AM  

ObscureNameHere: But, what will Trump do if he wants to buy another eastern European wife?


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I'll bet he even gets a discount.
 
2020-06-30 11:52:38 AM  

Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.


Neither our death nor case rate shows that.
 
2020-06-30 11:53:15 AM  
We're behind Rwanda?
Damn, it's like the World Cup!
 
2020-06-30 11:53:45 AM  

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


This statement completely ignores the hundred years of south american interference and regimes the US has overthrown and the poverty, war, and economic instability the US has caused to keep S. America from challenging the US' global power.


The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.  That said, if we're such a shiathole, why haven't all the people who think that gotten the fark out?
 
2020-06-30 11:54:30 AM  
I am so ashamed to be an American right now. We are an embarrassment in front of the rest of the world. We have raised two generations of entitled Karens and snowflakes who honestly believe civilization should conform to whatever offends them this month, lest they be inconvenienced or get hurt feelings. The sad fact is that our leadership is only a reflection of this problem, not the sole cause of it. It's who we hired for the job. But compound that with Floridians, etc., who won't adhere to basic guidelines and you have the utter disastrous failure we see before us. And the worst is on its way. I am profoundly disturbed that I felt compelled to even write this.
 
2020-06-30 11:54:46 AM  

EvilElecBlanket: Anyone who wants to get on an airplane during a worldwide epidemic is an idiot anyways.

As for this hurting my American feelings, meh.


Does not hurt my feelings at all.
I can't blame them.

It is embarrassing that we are currently under the rule of an orange shiatgibbon, that has brought us to where we are now.
 
2020-06-30 11:56:52 AM  

pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.


What?

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2020-06-30 11:57:30 AM  

pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.


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2020-06-30 11:57:42 AM  

pedrop357: The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.


Yeah, that was our problem.

*rolls eyes*
 
2020-06-30 11:59:10 AM  

Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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Do you understand how rates work?
 
2020-06-30 11:59:22 AM  

TimeCubeFan: I am so ashamed to be an American right now. We are an embarrassment in front of the rest of the world. We have raised two generations of entitled Karens and snowflakes who honestly believe civilization should conform to whatever offends them this month, lest they be inconvenienced or get hurt feelings. The sad fact is that our leadership is only a reflection of this problem, not the sole cause of it. It's who we hired for the job. But compound that with Floridians, etc., who won't adhere to basic guidelines and you have the utter disastrous failure we see before us. And the worst is on its way. I am profoundly disturbed that I felt compelled to even write this.


Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.
 
2020-06-30 11:59:25 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: EvilElecBlanket: Anyone who wants to get on an airplane during a worldwide epidemic is an idiot anyways.

As for this hurting my American feelings, meh.

Does not hurt my feelings at all.
I can't blame them.

It is embarrassing that we are currently under the rule of an orange shiatgibbon, that has brought us to where we are now.


While it's bad to be shunned for having an infectious disease, actually having the disease is worse.   I'll care about people shunning us for letting Trump destroy everything once we no longer have Trump destroying everything.
 
2020-06-30 11:59:30 AM  
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2020-06-30 11:59:30 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

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Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.
 
2020-06-30 12:01:08 PM  

ObscureNameHere: But, what will Trump do if he wants to buy another eastern European wife?


He'll have to go in through the back door.
 
2020-06-30 12:03:47 PM  

Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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Well, we have the highest population in "the Western World", so adjust for deaths per million, and we have lower numbers than UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden, and France.  However, their lockdowns were tougher and therefore more effective, so "right now" we are doing much worse.
 
2020-06-30 12:06:08 PM  

pedrop357: The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.


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/Thank you for making it readily apparent that no one needs to take your drivel seriously.
 
2020-06-30 12:11:54 PM  

pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

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Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.


They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.
 
2020-06-30 12:11:57 PM  
Whatever. I'm American.  Your Mickey Mouse laws don't apply to me.  I can do whatever I want, or did you forget how we saved the entire world in WW2. All by ourselves.
 
2020-06-30 12:13:32 PM  

robodog: Seriously EU? You're going to allow Russians and Brazilians in?!? I guess they like to have full employment for their contact tracing teams because that's going to keep them very busy.


Wuht?  They're banned along with the US.
 
2020-06-30 12:14:16 PM  

MythDragon: Whatever. I'm American.  Your Mickey Mouse laws don't apply to me.  I can do whatever I want, or did you forget how we saved the entire world in WW2. All by ourselves.


/twitch
 
2020-06-30 12:15:11 PM  

pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.


"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"
 
2020-06-30 12:15:42 PM  

Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

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Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.


I know.  Hell, previous arguments had farkers using raw numbers to defend their point, then immediately going to per capita when I would say that the US had done the most testing.

I'm still not going to let it slide though.
 
2020-06-30 12:15:54 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"


How cute.
 
2020-06-30 12:16:35 PM  
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Umm, a little help here, Canada?
 
2020-06-30 12:16:41 PM  

Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.

Yeah, that was our problem.

*rolls eyes*


Come on man look at all that communism in South America!
 
2020-06-30 12:16:43 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: It's not so much an issue of the EU "respecting" the US.  It's science and numbers.

The numbers in the US are going up, so the EU will ban travel from that area.

It's not a vindictive measure.  It's not for spite, or "stiginit" to the Americans.  It's about protecting their people.

No amount of "respect" for America would change that.  Once the numbers reflect a level where the travel is advisable, it will be permitted again.

Unless someone thinks the EU is a bunch of grade school kids on the playground or something.


You're not wrong. This just highlights what a joke we are on the world stage. Especially since this President promised that the world would start to respect us again.
 
2020-06-30 12:17:11 PM  
How america is looking at Europe right now:

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Remember when we were feared for our simple, violent ways instead of being walking plague rats?
 
2020-06-30 12:21:02 PM  

Geotpf: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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Well, we have the highest population in "the Western World", so adjust for deaths per million, and we have lower numbers than UK, Spain, Italy, Sweden, and France.  However, their lockdowns were tougher and therefore more effective, so "right now" we are doing much worse.


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2020-06-30 12:21:16 PM  

Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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You're not getting the full picture. Russia's doing fantastically and the Russian death toll is a miracle from god for the good Russian fight against the gay agenda and totally not made up.
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2020-06-30 12:22:17 PM  

Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.


Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

That is the difference.  Europe's 10% in may has nothing to do with right now.  shiat if we look at may numbers texas looks great!
 
2020-06-30 12:23:06 PM  
So what happens when more and more of the world opens up to each-other and keeps closed to USA?
As a Canadian, I am a-ok with my government keeping the southern border closed for as long as it takes for our neighbours to come to their senses. I am also not interested in international (or otherwise) travel, however it will be nice to maybe disembark and send home the hundreds of thousands of sailors stuck off-shore on ships.
 
2020-06-30 12:23:47 PM  
EvilElecBlanket:
Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.

I don't mind religion going away, but I had hoped it would have been replaced by science education and understanding. Instead it is shunned, as if ignorance were a virtue. But you're right. Narcissism and consumerism have won the day.
 
2020-06-30 12:26:16 PM  

TimeCubeFan: EvilElecBlanket:
Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.

I don't mind religion going away, but I had hoped it would have been replaced by science education and understanding. Instead it is shunned, as if ignorance were a virtue. But you're right. Narcissism and consumerism have won the day.


Does anyone really mock "the nuclear family"?
 
2020-06-30 12:30:21 PM  
As an American I cannot fault Europe from banning us at present due to the on going situation made worse by useless leadership.
 
2020-06-30 12:31:03 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ObscureNameHere: But, what will Trump do if he wants to buy another eastern European wife?

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I'll bet he even gets a discount.


I'll have to bookmark that for...uh...research.
 
2020-06-30 12:31:54 PM  

grimlock1972: As an American I cannot fault Europe from banning us at present due to the on going situation made worse by useless leadership.


As an American, I'll never make it to Europe anyway, so meh.
 
2020-06-30 12:35:53 PM  

dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.


The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:29 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?


We sent The Beib and Celine, what more do you want?
 
2020-06-30 12:37:36 PM  
Top 10 EU countries, cases per 1M, excluding states less than 100,000 (San Marino, Vatican City, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Monaco, the Faeroe Islands, Gibraltar and Andorra.)

1 Luxemborg 6869
2 Sweden 6700
3 Belarus 6574
4 Spain 6338
5 Iceland 5398 (note, only 341K population)
6 Belgium 5300
7 Ireland 5157
8 UK 4606 (does not include the Isle of Man, the Faeroe Islands, and Gibraltar)
10 Russia 4439

Cases per million
USA 8149
Brazil 6510

States worse than the US (skipping the tiny ones listed above) in cases per million.
Qatar 34,222
Bahrain 15,430
Chile 14,616
French Guiana 13410 (only 298K population)
Kuwait 10,818
Mayotte 9544 (only 272K)
Armenia 8620
Peru 8565

So, America is not the worst in terms of cases per million but is definitely near the top, and is absolute worst in absolute cases.
 
2020-06-30 12:42:32 PM  

grokca: The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?

We sent The Beib and Celine, what more do you want?


Our money back?
 
2020-06-30 12:43:32 PM  

Jeebus Saves: dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.


Another way to look at this was that the prior lockdowns in the states having problems were premature or inappropriate.  States like NY,NJ,CT,MA, etc. were being ravaged by it while other states had little or no issue.

Everywhere had to lockdown because of the East Coast.  Now that it's stopped burning through those states and is hitting the states that already spent months on various levels of lockdown, would it be reasonable to expect NY, NJ, MA, CT, etc. to stay locked down?
 
2020-06-30 12:43:38 PM  

pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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Do you understand how rates work?


Do you?

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2020-06-30 12:47:37 PM  

Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

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You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.
 
2020-06-30 12:48:48 PM  
Imagine a world where Rwanda has dealt with a pandemic more effectively than the US, and Rwandans can now travel to the EU.  What kind of fark up would that take, eh?
 
2020-06-30 12:49:08 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Top 10 EU countries, cases per 1M, excluding states less than 100,000 (San Marino, Vatican City, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Monaco, the Faeroe Islands, Gibraltar and Andorra.)

1 Luxemborg 6869
2 Sweden 6700
3 Belarus 6574
4 Spain 6338
5 Iceland 5398 (note, only 341K population)
6 Belgium 5300
7 Ireland 5157
8 UK 4606 (does not include the Isle of Man, the Faeroe Islands, and Gibraltar)
10 Russia 4439

Cases per million
USA 8149
Brazil 6510

States worse than the US (skipping the tiny ones listed above) in cases per million.
Qatar 34,222
Bahrain 15,430
Chile 14,616
French Guiana 13410 (only 298K population)
Kuwait 10,818
Mayotte 9544 (only 272K)
Armenia 8620
Peru 8565

So, America is not the worst in terms of cases per million but is definitely near the top, and is absolute worst in absolute cases.


Man, it is just wild to compare our rates per million to South Korea and Japan especially given SK's widespread testing.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:42 PM  

pedrop357: Jeebus Saves: dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.

Another way to look at this was that the prior lockdowns in the states having problems were premature or inappropriate.  States like NY,NJ,CT,MA, etc. were being ravaged by it while other states had little or no issue.

Everywhere had to lockdown because of the East Coast.  Now that it's stopped burning through those states and is hitting the states that already spent months on various levels of lockdown, would it be reasonable to expect NY, NJ, MA, CT, etc. to stay locked down?


Aren't those states slowing down their reopening plans too?

So they're actually taking your advice whether you realize it or not.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavir​u​s/ny-coronavirus-cuomo-street-corner-r​eopening-restaurants-20200629-tpjrnj5p​65gcjehbtmun6f6xci-story.html
 
2020-06-30 12:51:29 PM  

I'm an excellent driver: Imagine a world where Rwanda has dealt with a pandemic more effectively than the US, and Rwandans can now travel to the EU.  What kind of fark up would that take, eh?


That's because they get serious Don Cheadle.
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This is American Don Cheadle:
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2020-06-30 12:51:37 PM  

pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.


They also wear masks in Japan too so you may have another good point.
 
2020-06-30 12:54:33 PM  
As long as Drumpf is President, we should be banned from ever going to Europe, or any other country.
 
2020-06-30 12:55:44 PM  
You're doing a heck of a job, Orangey
 
2020-06-30 1:05:52 PM  

pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.


Well, you are certainly making the case that America has a shiatty education system.

Cherry pick away random things about these countries any way you like, it still doesn't change the fact that America's response has been abysmal, as reflected in the objective data. It also doesn't change the fact that we have lost respect and prominence on the world stage.

Your response isn't surprising. Like the EU, those kids in school were laughing at you, not with you.
 
2020-06-30 1:09:08 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ObscureNameHere: But, what will Trump do if he wants to buy another eastern European wife?

[Fark user image image 692x448]

I'll bet he even gets a discount.


Thing is, if Trump could declare himself as ruling Monarch of the United States, then he could give the first lady a more proper and fitting title: Royal Concubine.
 
2020-06-30 1:17:16 PM  
Mrtraveler01
pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc. Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,). Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.

They also wear masks in Japan too so you may have another good point.


Also kinda applies to Czechia because they immediately made the wearing of masks in public mandatory back in mid-March; IIRC they only lifted or eased that about two months later.
 
2020-06-30 1:28:26 PM  

Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.


Are they being executed in broad daylight with people videoing it and screaming that they are committing murder?
 
2020-06-30 1:29:51 PM  

Jeebus Saves: dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.


If a farking shanty town in India can all but stop it, then the US should be able to.  40k cases a day is catastrophic.
 
2020-06-30 1:35:46 PM  
European?
I'mapean too. We'reapean everybody's a peein' in Britain and there's not enough loos.
 
2020-06-30 1:39:40 PM  

CrosswordWithAPen: We're behind Rwanda?
Damn, it's like the World Cup!


They have better hotels.
 
2020-06-30 1:40:29 PM  

The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?


Y'all tried to cut off our medical supplies, so you hosers can take off, eh
 
2020-06-30 1:41:13 PM  

shadow9d9: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Are they being executed in broad daylight with people videoing it and screaming that they are committing murder?


Only in the Republic of Chopistan.
 
2020-06-30 1:41:50 PM  

shadow9d9: Jeebus Saves: dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.

If a farking shanty town in India can all but stop it, then the US should be able to.  40k cases a day is catastrophic.


Did you think about this post at all before making it?
 
2020-06-30 1:49:13 PM  

halifaxdatageek: The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?

Y'all tried to cut off our medical supplies, so you hosers can take off, eh


Soory
 
2020-06-30 1:50:15 PM  

pedrop357: Prank Call of Cthulhu: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"

How cute.


4.25% of the worlds total population.

25%+ of the death count of the worlds population from covid 19

I can math!
 
2020-06-30 1:52:06 PM  

dkulprit: pedrop357: Prank Call of Cthulhu: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"

How cute.

4.25% of the worlds total population.

25%+ of the death count of the worlds population from covid 19

I can math!


If you actually believe the numbers out of China, you can't be reasoned with.  Then we get to Russia, India, etc.
 
2020-06-30 1:52:29 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Tr0mBoNe: No, a Canadian flag patch on your backpack isn't enough.

How about a Canadian passport?


Too easy to fake. You should take a refrigerator full of small batch craft beer.
 
2020-06-30 1:54:20 PM  

whidbey: As long as Drumpf is President, we should be banned from ever going to Europe, or any other country.


It feels like an extra special of stupid to still be saying Drumpf at this point. It was funny for like 5m on Last Week Tonight but the farking horse is now fine powder. Please stop.
 
2020-06-30 1:54:37 PM  
Sorry, Trumpland. But thanks for all the work visa turn-aways. We made out like thieves after 911. This time we can get the future tech lords instead of just professors and students.
 
2020-06-30 1:56:31 PM  

pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.


I'm waiting breathlessly for you to illuminate us instead of just flinging poo.
 
2020-06-30 1:59:20 PM  
I've been thinking about how to add the USA to the BRIC countries. I am thinking now that China has dropped out, you could change the acronym for the Gold Bricks to HUBRIS.

Hungary USA Russia Brazil India Sino something-something. Any other countries start with H? Sweden might do instead of China.
 
2020-06-30 2:00:53 PM  

Jeebus Saves: dkulprit: Eightballjacket: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

They understand rates, just bring up that more whites are killed by cops than other races, and then all the sudden rates matter.

Our current positivity rates are almost triple that of Europe.  Historically they were worse, but that has vastly changed over the past 2 months.  They have their positivity rates per test below 2% but the US is between 5 and 15%.

The whole point was to slow the spread.  That's exactly what we did and what we are doing.  Remember, so the hospitals weren't overwhelmed, flatten the curve and all that?  We weren't going to stop it.  The US is a really, really big country and it was going to take time to spread in other regions of the US, while in the places it hit first, the numbers are going down.


....

Duh

The point was to flatten the curve and develope a system to trace and isolate any further cases so when we open back up we can control the outbreaks.


Saying we did what we set out to is like saying we did what we set out in Iraq by stopping the WMDs.

Sure we flattened the curve and now we don't have a curve, we have a giant ass spike.

Don't be naive by claiming we accomplished what set out for.  Notice how no other counties in the western world ALSO opened up and aren't seeing cases rise like ours?  It's because they flattened the curve and then opened up with robust contact tracing and isolation.

We just opened the door and said "look everythings back to normal, now spend your money so the economy can get back to shape."

We accomplished 1 part of the plan, but failed to accomplish the MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE PLAN.

Remember this?  The thing that was soo good and "stupid libs, they have an in depth plan that we have to follow."  IT WAS A GOOD farkING PLAN, BUT WE DIDN'T STICK TO IT.

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Or are we just going to rewrite history like everything else where this didn't exist and the ONLY idea was to only flatten the curve and that's it?
 
2020-06-30 2:01:25 PM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: pedrop357: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

[Fark user image 850x422]

Another farker who doesn't understand how rates work.

I'm waiting breathlessly for you to illuminate us instead of just flinging poo.


USA economy good? Invest in the US.
USA economy bad? Park your money in the US for safe-keeping.

It's not America that is great. It is the money-laundering and storage. See Trump for details on how to launder your klepto-bucks and crime proceeds through the miracle of high-end condos!
 
2020-06-30 2:04:53 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Top 10 EU countries, cases per 1M, excluding states less than 100,000 (San Marino, Vatican City, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Monaco, the Faeroe Islands, Gibraltar and Andorra.)

1 Luxemborg 6869
2 Sweden 6700
3 Belarus 6574
4 Spain 6338
5 Iceland 5398 (note, only 341K population)
6 Belgium 5300
7 Ireland 5157
8 UK 4606 (does not include the Isle of Man, the Faeroe Islands, and Gibraltar)
10 Russia 4439

Cases per million
USA 8149
Brazil 6510

States worse than the US (skipping the tiny ones listed above) in cases per million.
Qatar 34,222
Bahrain 15,430
Chile 14,616
French Guiana 13410 (only 298K population)
Kuwait 10,818
Mayotte 9544 (only 272K)
Armenia 8620
Peru 8565

So, America is not the worst in terms of cases per million but is definitely near the top, and is absolute worst in absolute cases.


And the places that do have worse per million that you have listed are places where 85% of the population of the entire country lives in 1 city about the size of New York, also happen to be in the desert so people are inside with airconditioning basically setting up a perfect storm of density and the easiest way to spread it which is indoors with recycled air.
 
2020-06-30 2:05:36 PM  

Claude Ballse: grokca: The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?

We sent The Beib and Celine, what more do you want?

Our money back?


We did get ryan Reynolds, so that makes up for it.
 
2020-06-30 2:07:43 PM  
Here's how you ace this:

Kill all the testing.

Open everything up wide.

Stop publishing the data because it makes the Do Nothings in Power look bad.

Let this global plague thing burn it's way through all the over-40s. Let it burn it's way through the under-40s next.

Replace all the fired, down-sized, over-shored, slave wage workers with machines and bots or zombies. PROFIT, ALWAYS PROFIT!

In other words, Victory Through Denial, Dumb-assery, Delusion and The Donald! 4-D Chess.

The boss classes earn the big bucks for their amazing ability to avoid responsability, accountability, facts, truths, and externalities while reaping unearned rents and shedding all the costs while keeping all the profits. It's a hard life, but somebody has to do it!
 
2020-06-30 2:08:41 PM  

pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.


Oh, how's stefan molyneux doing?  Is he still mad about women who have sex with bad men?

Is he still going on about the fall of rome and trying to make parallels with modern society somehow condensing 500 years into less than 100?
 
2020-06-30 2:08:44 PM  

pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedr seeop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.


It's clear what you think you're being sly about, but rest assured an isolated population made up entirely of chinless (I'm assuming purity will be an issue, so we can rest assured they will definitely be chinless) plague rats isn't going to be the eternal utopia you think it'll be.
 
2020-06-30 2:10:13 PM  
Republicans constantly confuse geography for votes and maps for reality. They game both royally, like the retrograd reactionary Whigs and Tories that they are.

Suppress them votes, tote them email trees!
 
2020-06-30 2:11:24 PM  

slama: pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedr seeop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.

It's clear what you think you're being sly about, but rest assured an isolated population made up entirely of chinless (I'm assuming purity will be an issue, so we can rest assured they will definitely be chinless) plague rats isn't going to be the eternal utopia you think it'll be.


Please illuminate us on what I'm being "sly" about.  I'm responding to someone bringing up Europe, Japan, etc. in the first place.
 
2020-06-30 2:11:30 PM  
Trump is not deaf. He is willfully deaf, dumb and blind. THREE BRASS MONKEYS, Baby Boss of the.
 
2020-06-30 2:11:58 PM  
Well, he isn't dumb when it comes to blather and bullshiat and bamboozle and bombast.
 
2020-06-30 2:12:29 PM  

halifaxdatageek: The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?

Y'all tried to cut off our medical supplies, so you hosers can take off, eh


In direct response to trump blocking medical supplies.  It's a tit for tat thing here.

I can tell where you get your news.  They have a tendency to leave out major aspects of things for the whole "we're so oppressed angle."
 
2020-06-30 2:14:28 PM  

pedrop357: dkulprit: pedrop357: Prank Call of Cthulhu: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"

How cute.

4.25% of the worlds total population.

25%+ of the death count of the worlds population from covid 19

I can math!

If you actually believe the numbers out of China, you can't be reasoned with.  Then we get to Russia, India, etc.


I don't believe the numbers out of china, but they still don't make up that much of a difference.  Maybe 2-4% difference.

I know people in china, we have 5 plants there, and there are definitely a lot of unreported deaths, but not so much to move the needle to the point where we're still not number 1.
 
2020-06-30 2:14:34 PM  

Mike_LowELL: It's no wonder that we had to bail out Europe when Europe tried to take over Europe during the World Wars. Only a feminized socialist such as yourself would object to American/Russian/Brazilian superiority. Goddamn feminized socialists. Your feminized socialism makes me sick.


You know, that's an interesting point, Mike. It's normal for a hypermasculine entity such as the US to feel threatened by a feminized culture that is slower, kinder, more thoughtful, and more atune to the needs of the future, rather than the wham, bam, burn it down, patriarchal culture of people like you. A culture that thinks of renewal rather than destruction and profits can thrive and make people happy, and I think your kind finds this too hard to accept. You only think of destruction.

Due to your own ambivalent sexuality that you didn't think I noticed in your posts, you find yourself very attracted to the socialist side of life, with its breastfeeding moms, bicycles, peasant skirts, and healthy homemade bread. Leafblowers, a particular peeve of yours, have been outlawed in a matriarchal culture, because WTF, really? Use a rake. Or a broom. What are you, a farking douche?

Come over to our side. You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.
 
2020-06-30 2:16:13 PM  

brantgoose: I've been thinking about how to add the USA to the BRIC countries. I am thinking now that China has dropped out, you could change the acronym for the Gold Bricks to HUBRIS.

Hungary USA Russia Brazil India Sino something-something. Any other countries start with H? Sweden might do instead of China.


Haiti, Honduras, Holy See.
 
2020-06-30 2:21:00 PM  
Good that they are doing this, but unfortunately this will affect world travelers the most... people who like to experience different cultures, languages, and people.

This will leave out the people who should be quarantined the most and would have the greatest need to leave the country for enlightenment.. Trumpanzees.
 
2020-06-30 2:22:10 PM  

pedrop357: slama: pedrop357: Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedr seeop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

[Fark user image 365x750]

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

[Fark user image 425x615]

You might be on to something - maybe we should start acting more like Poland, Serbia, Czechia, etc.  Look at their infection and death rates - astoundingly low (they are some of the ones keeping the overall European average down, BTW,).  Perhaps we can become as insular and homogeneous as Japan.

It's clear what you think you're being sly about, but rest assured an isolated population made up entirely of chinless (I'm assuming purity will be an issue, so we can rest assured they will definitely be chinless) plague rats isn't going to be the eternal utopia you think it'll be.

Please illuminate us on what I'm being "sly" about.  I'm responding to someone bringing up Europe, Japan, etc. in the first place.


Homogeneous, and bringing up Countries that ethno state enthusiasts as a utopia because of their whiteness and superiority, etc.  We know what you're getting at.  It's the same words Stefan Molyneaux, Richard Spencer, and Greg Johnson spew.

The whole "look how good they're doing, see what the difference is?  They don't have all the 'dirt'."  By dirt they means brown people and jews.  The homogenous argument is a white identitarian argument.
 
2020-06-30 2:28:11 PM  

grokca: The Irresponsible Captain: [Fark user image 420x750]

Umm, a little help here, Canada?

We sent The Beib and Celine, what more do you want?


A recall.
 
2020-06-30 2:40:23 PM  

pedrop357: The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.


As someone who, as a teenager, saw many of my teachers "disappear", and had to leave my entire life behind to start over in another country in less than a week's notice because of the military dictatorship, I'm fully qualified to say:  fark you with a pineapple.  No, not that one.  The big one over there.
 
2020-06-30 2:42:10 PM  

cryinoutloud: You know, that's an interesting point, Mike. It's normal for a hypermasculine entity such as the US to feel threatened by a feminized culture that is slower, kinder, more thoughtful, and more atune to the needs of the future, rather than the wham, bam, burn it down, patriarchal culture of people like you. A culture that thinks of renewal rather than destruction and profits can thrive and make people happy, and I think your kind finds this too hard to accept. You only think of destruction.

Due to your own ambivalent sexuality that you didn't think I noticed in your posts, you find yourself very attracted to the socialist side of life, with its breastfeeding moms, bicycles, peasant skirts, and healthy homemade bread. Leafblowers, a particular peeve of yours, have been outlawed in a matriarchal culture, because WTF, really? Use a rake. Or a broom. What are you, a farking douche?

Come over to our side. You can't hug your children with nuclear arms.


Please understand that I have serious maternal issues.  I know I have mentioned my father gave me a 250-million-dollar loan that eventually led to a successful company worth around one-hundred million dollars.  If it was not for my mother, this loan would have been half-a-billion.  She cut me off at the knees.

The fact you imply my maternal trauma has resulted in a latent desire for women of significantly above-average height that have won multiple martial arts championships across multiple disciplines, who coerces me into the locker room with all of her fit friends, is a disgusting and unfounded claim and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The reality is that me and these women will play real-life on the highest difficulty level, as Republican policies lead to the disintegration of the country and something not unlike the cutting-edge masterpiece The Last of Us: Part 2: Ellie's Revenge: Part 3, one of multiple downloadable content campaigns in the Season 4 pass for Season 1.

I thirst for violence because I play life on the "Hardcore" difficulty setting.  The only question is what the women will do with my corpse after have treated me to unimaginable desires.  My guess is that I was delicious.  I can't wait.
 
2020-06-30 2:43:44 PM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

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When set it to "now" the numbers vary wildly based on when during the day you look and when data is reported.  If you set it to "yesterday", Brazil is the clear leader on unadjusted new deaths, and if you adjust "new cases" on a per capita basis (unfortunately that site doesn't do this for you), it depends on the day whether the US or Brazil has more (but the US has done much more testing than Brazil).
 
2020-06-30 2:44:29 PM  
pedrop357:

On the plus side, you and your ilk are providing a cautionary tale to the rest of the world should anyone decide to follow in your footsteps.

So thank you for that, at least.
 
2020-06-30 2:58:57 PM  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Top 10 EU countries, cases per 1M, excluding states less than 100,000 (San Marino, Vatican City, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Monaco, the Faeroe Islands, Gibraltar and Andorra.)

1 Luxemborg 6869
2 Sweden 6700
3 Belarus 6574
4 Spain 6338
5 Iceland 5398 (note, only 341K population)
6 Belgium 5300
7 Ireland 5157
8 UK 4606 (does not include the Isle of Man, the Faeroe Islands, and Gibraltar)
10 Russia 4439

Cases per million
USA 8149
Brazil 6510

States worse than the US (skipping the tiny ones listed above) in cases per million.
Qatar 34,222
Bahrain 15,430
Chile 14,616
French Guiana 13410 (only 298K population)
Kuwait 10,818
Mayotte 9544 (only 272K)
Armenia 8620
Peru 8565

So, America is not the worst in terms of cases per million but is definitely near the top, and is absolute worst in absolute cases.


Why can't Americans tell the difference between the EU and the continent of Europe?

Why would the Faroe Islands ever randomly be included with the UK, they're Danish.
 
2020-06-30 3:05:48 PM  

pedrop357: dkulprit: pedrop357: Prank Call of Cthulhu: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

"Pay no attention to that enormous pile of dead bodies over there!"

How cute.

4.25% of the worlds total population.

25%+ of the death count of the worlds population from covid 19

I can math!

If you actually believe the numbers out of China, you can't be reasoned with.  Then we get to Russia, India, etc.


The virus from China isn't very infectious, there's a D and a G version, China had the safish one.

Also, they welded peoples doors shut.

Its plausible. But it also makes them ripe for the bad kind, but at least they're prepared now.
 
2020-06-30 3:14:33 PM  

pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


I use to go to the US about 3 times a year.  Haven't been once since Trump has been in power.
 
2020-06-30 3:21:33 PM  

Elliot8654: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Mrtraveler01: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

Well right now we're the COVID capital of the Western World so we don't have room to talk.

Neither our death nor case rate shows that.

What?

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Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

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True except density of some of the American population is indeed a factor.
 
2020-06-30 3:32:33 PM  

pedrop357: Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


This statement completely ignores the hundred years of south american interference and regimes the US has overthrown and the poverty, war, and economic instability the US has caused to keep S. America from challenging the US' global power.

The US didn't go far enough in trying to suppress the spread of communism in South America.  That said, if we're such a shiathole, why haven't all the people who think that gotten the fark out?


Because, they want to convert the US into a shiathole.
 
2020-06-30 3:32:51 PM  
Capitalist pigs in the U.S. are selling masks made in china so..........
 
2020-06-30 4:00:59 PM  
"Americans were 50% of my clientele," said Paola Pellizzari, who runs a jewelry and mask shop in the heart of Paris. "We can't substitute that clientele with another."

Okay! We get it! Americans are stupid. Stop rubbing it in.
 
2020-06-30 4:17:08 PM  
Well, shiat. That was our escape plan. :( 

Guess we'll have to do Mexico. Dammit.
 
2020-06-30 4:33:28 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: TimeCubeFan: I am so ashamed to be an American right now. We are an embarrassment in front of the rest of the world. We have raised two generations of entitled Karens and snowflakes who honestly believe civilization should conform to whatever offends them this month, lest they be inconvenienced or get hurt feelings. The sad fact is that our leadership is only a reflection of this problem, not the sole cause of it. It's who we hired for the job. But compound that with Floridians, etc., who won't adhere to basic guidelines and you have the utter disastrous failure we see before us. And the worst is on its way. I am profoundly disturbed that I felt compelled to even write this.

Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.


Religion (I'm assuming you mean Christianity in particular) is just fine. The nuclear family is just fine. They've just been knocked off their pedestals as the only way to live a good and righteous life. If people who follow religion and people in nuclear families feel they're inferior merely because they can't present themselves as superior to all others, well, that's awfully unfortunate for them.
 
2020-06-30 4:39:00 PM  

Intrepid00: Please stop.


No.

Drumpf.

Drumpf.

DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF

DRUMPF
 
2020-06-30 4:42:07 PM  

Mrtraveler01: TimeCubeFan: EvilElecBlanket:
Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.

I don't mind religion going away, but I had hoped it would have been replaced by science education and understanding. Instead it is shunned, as if ignorance were a virtue. But you're right. Narcissism and consumerism have won the day.

Does anyone really mock "the nuclear family"?


I do.  It sounds like something Nancy Reagan would force us to "believe" in.
 
2020-06-30 4:46:10 PM  

whidbey: Intrepid00: Please stop.

No.

Drumpf.

Drumpf.

DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF

DRUMPF



South Park - Jared Beating a dead horse
Youtube JizzeERcZjg
 
2020-06-30 4:59:12 PM  
Elliot8654:

Do you understand how rates work?

Do you?

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Oh, America is dense all right.
 
2020-06-30 5:02:00 PM  
 
2020-06-30 5:04:37 PM  

pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


You had a chance.  Now youse can't leave.

A Bronx Tale "now youse cant leave"
Youtube H_lijLYuw-o
 
2020-06-30 5:33:14 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: EvilElecBlanket: TimeCubeFan: I am so ashamed to be an American right now. We are an embarrassment in front of the rest of the world. We have raised two generations of entitled Karens and snowflakes who honestly believe civilization should conform to whatever offends them this month, lest they be inconvenienced or get hurt feelings. The sad fact is that our leadership is only a reflection of this problem, not the sole cause of it. It's who we hired for the job. But compound that with Floridians, etc., who won't adhere to basic guidelines and you have the utter disastrous failure we see before us. And the worst is on its way. I am profoundly disturbed that I felt compelled to even write this.

Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.


Horse hockey. The "nuclear family" was *invented around WWI as a way to sell more products. Before then, multigenerational living was *normal*. So was sharing houses (my grandmother's house was a boarding house during the Great Depression (as opposed to the current Trump Depression))..

And religion mocks itself when it tells you who to vote for, and who to hate.

Consumerism is an invention of the ultrawealthy... I mean, how else are they going to get their money that's temporarily in your pocket back?
 
2020-06-30 5:33:18 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: TimeCubeFan: I am so ashamed to be an American right now. We are an embarrassment in front of the rest of the world. We have raised two generations of entitled Karens and snowflakes who honestly believe civilization should conform to whatever offends them this month, lest they be inconvenienced or get hurt feelings. The sad fact is that our leadership is only a reflection of this problem, not the sole cause of it. It's who we hired for the job. But compound that with Floridians, etc., who won't adhere to basic guidelines and you have the utter disastrous failure we see before us. And the worst is on its way. I am profoundly disturbed that I felt compelled to even write this.
Religion and the nuclear family is mocked now. With those going away, something was going to come in a fill the void. Narcissism and consumerism seems to be taking the lead.


Look. It's not coincidence that this country has more advertising spending than any other country in the world. It's not a coincidence that we have the highest consumption levels, either. We are infected with this shiat, and it has changed us.

From our political views to our view of family, we all are encouraged to adopt a brand and an identity that separates us from everybody else--the better to sell us stuff. Celebrate your individuality, right? Not your kinship with others, or your good works. Just the way you look, and which group you're in.

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We didn't just become this way from some mysterious force. We pay for it. A lot.

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2020-06-30 5:47:59 PM  

whitroth: Horse hockey. The "nuclear family" was *invented around WWI as a way to sell more products. Before then, multigenerational living was *normal*. So was sharing houses (my grandmother's house was a boarding house during the Great Depression (as opposed to the current Trump Depression))..


But how many families are actually "nuclear" today? Over half of parents divorce. Single parents are more the norm than unusual.
We lost that standard, let alone have grandma live with you too--which was already a division of the old way--and we've divided it up even further. Women work now, they can live on their own! Wow. So of course they have to work. So of course they're not mothers, they don't have so many kids, and they get divorced more often, and break up with good guys, because it's just too damn hard for two working people to stay together, if both of them want careers.

Do your kids sleep in bunk beds? shame on you--they each need their own bedroom. Do you co-sleep with your baby? Well, it is going to DIE. Your child doesn't go to daycare, tap lessons, early childhood programming, and is learning Chinese? What kind of a parent are you?? You are ruining them with your close relationship and playing at home every day.

Thank you, consumerism. You ruined the nuclear family too. And I remember it well because I grew up during the 70s. I didn't realize until later that it was probably partly marketing bullshiat. Or mostly. You've come a long way, baby. Here's your birth control pills, NOW you can compete for more wages!
Fark, it was probably "mostly." Our whole culture is nothing but a marketing scheme. And it's our government's fault for not reining it in, like the greedy bought farks that they are.

The opioid epidemic was nothing but a marketing scheme too. The entire epidemic! There is nothing too low for these people and they have ruined us.

/and nursing homes. Who has time to take care of grandma when you have to work to afford your way-cool consumer lifestyle?
 
2020-06-30 5:58:54 PM  

Intrepid00: whidbey: Intrepid00: Please stop.

No.

Drumpf.

Drumpf.

DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF

DRUMPF


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JizzeERc​Zjg]


When Drumpf is out of office, I'll stop.  

Deal?
 
2020-06-30 6:03:37 PM  

whidbey: Intrepid00: whidbey: Intrepid00: Please stop.

No.

Drumpf.

Drumpf.

DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF DRUMPF

DRUMPF


[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/JizzeERc​Zjg]

When Drumpf is out of office, I'll stop.  

Deal?


Please no, the horse is going to be ground to atoms if he somehow wins a 2nd term.
 
2020-06-30 7:17:38 PM  
Does anyone know how to find out what countries ARE allowing Americans? 

Asking for a friend who wants to GTFO
 
2020-06-30 7:49:21 PM  
I can now travel to Europe more easily than I can travel within my own country.

The devil in the details are that I'd have to undergo mandatory 14-days quarantine in a hotel when I get back.
 
2020-06-30 9:55:53 PM  
I think Canada should build a wall and the Americans should pay for it.
 
2020-07-01 12:55:29 AM  
Excellent. Let's make Europeans safer by shutting down all US military bases and eliminating US Navy port calls there.
 
2020-07-01 1:03:36 AM  

Ketchuponsteak: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Top 10 EU countries, cases per 1M, excluding states less than 100,000 (San Marino, Vatican City, Isle of Man, Liechtenstein, Monaco, the Faeroe Islands, Gibraltar and Andorra.)

1 Luxemborg 6869
2 Sweden 6700
3 Belarus 6574
4 Spain 6338
5 Iceland 5398 (note, only 341K population)
6 Belgium 5300
7 Ireland 5157
8 UK 4606 (does not include the Isle of Man, the Faeroe Islands, and Gibraltar)
10 Russia 4439

Cases per million
USA 8149
Brazil 6510

States worse than the US (skipping the tiny ones listed above) in cases per million.
Qatar 34,222
Bahrain 15,430
Chile 14,616
French Guiana 13410 (only 298K population)
Kuwait 10,818
Mayotte 9544 (only 272K)
Armenia 8620
Peru 8565

So, America is not the worst in terms of cases per million but is definitely near the top, and is absolute worst in absolute cases.

Why can't Americans tell the difference between the EU and the continent of Europe?

Why would the Faroe Islands ever randomly be included with the UK, they're Danish.


I'd bet you lunch that most Americans would insist that the Faroes are Egyptian territory.
 
2020-07-01 1:53:39 AM  

pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.


You might have missed the news, but people trapped in America don't exactly have a lot of places where they're welcome right now because you stupid farks have turned this pandemic into a political football.
 
2020-07-01 2:53:21 AM  

Fancy_Bear: Excellent. Let's make Europeans safer by shutting down all US military bases and eliminating US Navy port calls there.


Agreed.  Time to end Us imperialism.
 
2020-07-01 2:53:53 AM  

Murkanen: pedrop357: Such a shiathole that people are constantly trying to get in while subby and most farkers haven't left yet.

You might have missed the news, but people trapped in America don't exactly have a lot of places where they're welcome right now because you stupid farks have turned this pandemic into a political football.


WE did?
 
2020-07-01 3:14:36 AM  
pedrop357:

WE did?

Yes, Spanky, you did.  More specifically that bloated Oompa Loompa corpse you elected, and his army of farkwits, did.
 
2020-07-01 3:15:02 AM  
The Voice of Doom:

Also kinda applies to Czechia because they immediately made the wearing of masks in public mandatory back in mid-March; IIRC they only lifted or eased that about two months later.

Sorta... mask restrictions have been slowly being lifted. As of today, they are no longer required in public transport or shops. (Still required on the subway, but not on trams, buses, etc). That's really the only required place now.

I'm personally not wild about this. I wish they would remain required for shops. Won't droplets get on apples, berries, etc? Gone are the days of casual snacking on fruit and veg without cooking or sanitizing it.

Overall, they did an excellent job here, though.
 
2020-07-01 3:52:23 AM  

pedrop357: Fancy_Bear: Excellent. Let's make Europeans safer by shutting down all US military bases and eliminating US Navy port calls there.

Agreed.  Time to end Us imperialism.


It's going to happen anyway. By the time Trump is voted out, the country and its economy will be screwed and will take years to recover.

He will be known as the man who killed and bankrupted a superpower.
 
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