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2020-06-30 11:56:07 AM  
29 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."


She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.
 
2020-06-30 9:26:15 AM  
29 votes:
You know what, if they were *all* in charge of things, they could come together in a meeting and crank out meaningful decisions in less time than it takes the current Administration staff to get our current idiot President to drop his phone and hobble to the meeting room.
 
2020-06-30 12:22:04 PM  
20 votes:
I would like Duckworth. She has achievements. She's sharp. And she'd bring out the worst in Trump. Let that hang around the GOP's necks and drown them.
 
2020-06-30 12:13:43 PM  
20 votes:
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/Book it. Done.
 
2020-06-30 12:31:26 PM  
18 votes:
He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.
 
2020-06-30 12:29:28 PM  
18 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.

Are you putting any of that past the current GOP?  She ticks off the "All the People We Hate" boxes for them: foreign, woman, minority, Democrat, and, now surprisingly, military.


Democrats worrying about how Republicans will react is one of the reasons we're in this mess. Fark 'em.
 
2020-06-30 12:21:48 PM  
17 votes:
Biden/Warren 2020 is my personal choice, but I'll take Biden/ANY GODDAMNED SANE PERSON 2020, TBH.
 
2020-06-30 12:20:13 PM  
16 votes:
I'm for Duckworth now, love to see her debate Pence.
 
2020-06-30 12:17:52 PM  
16 votes:
I want Biden to not just announce his VP; I want him to announce that he is ready to hit the ground running and that he already has his cabinet picks lined up for every major position. Do that in contrast to Trump who still doesnt
 
2020-06-30 12:21:48 PM  
15 votes:
Whoever he picks will very likely be the first female president.

My money is on Harris, but any of those women is highly competent and qualified.

Also, no matter who it is, a bunch of people will criticize him because she's too moderate, too far left, pandering, shrill, low IQ (well just one guy will say that), too much of an insider, too unknown, much concern, concern, concern...
 
2020-06-30 9:54:58 AM  
13 votes:
It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously
 
2020-06-30 12:00:40 PM  
12 votes:

edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.


Are you putting any of that past the current GOP?  She ticks off the "All the People We Hate" boxes for them: foreign, woman, minority, Democrat, and, now surprisingly, military.
 
2020-06-30 12:33:54 PM  
11 votes:

madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.


Senate Majority Leader is the perfect fit for her.
 
2020-06-30 12:33:02 PM  
11 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."


She had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. Anyone that wants to suggest she isn't American can promptly go fark themselves with a rocksalt dildo with alacrity.
 
2020-06-30 12:29:42 PM  
11 votes:

Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously


Yeah she has been clear that she has not been contacted, so while a good choice she is not in the running.

Harris is a good VP pick politically. She can be the campaigns puncher* while he plays statesman in the campaign for 2020. If she takes over my only concern would be her commitment to the justice/policing ennema this country needs.

/* Seriously, she is spectacular at this.
 
2020-06-30 12:17:34 PM  
11 votes:
I'd crawl through broken glass if he picks Duckworth, Warren, or Sanders. Which means it probably won't happen. He'll focus group pick a black woman.
 
2020-06-30 12:16:13 PM  
10 votes:

ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.


Fark.  That's adorahot.
 
2020-06-30 11:49:10 AM  
10 votes:
The only logical choice.
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2020-06-30 12:27:49 PM  
9 votes:
I hope he picks Rice. She is all business, and you can tell that easily.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:59 PM  
8 votes:
One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

/And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:33 PM  
8 votes:
Personally I want to see Duckworth as VP and Warren as senate majority leader.
 
2020-06-30 12:02:42 PM  
7 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.

Are you putting any of that past the current GOP?  She ticks off the "All the People We Hate" boxes for them: foreign, woman, minority, Democrat, and, now surprisingly, military.


Oh, and handicapped.  I forgot that one.

She would just need to be a Lesbian Atheist and the sound of the right wing heads exploding would be heard on Mars.
 
2020-06-30 1:04:35 PM  
6 votes:

Epic Fap Session: Until the announcement, don't rule out dark horse Tim Kaine.


I'm not one to join the pig pile on Hilary for her 2016 campaign. I think many of her alleged missteps are obvious only in hindsight, and that in the moment her strategy seemed sound.

But picking Kaine was just imbecilic.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:24 PM  
6 votes:

Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.


16 year account ladies and gentlemen.
 
2020-06-30 12:48:00 PM  
6 votes:

theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.


How's that now?

Perception vs reality
 
2020-06-30 11:56:53 AM  
6 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."


My response to the right wingers on this one would be a very hearty "go fark yourselves you deplorable racist farks"

Honestly though, I think they would retread the "why won't Tammy Duckworth" stand up for America line that they tried before
 
2020-06-30 11:12:17 AM  
6 votes:
Which one is the most moderate?

That one.
 
2020-06-30 12:48:55 PM  
5 votes:
My preference is Duckworth. Warren, as others have said, would be best served as majority leader.
 
2020-06-30 12:45:15 PM  
5 votes:

baorao: Warren seems to be prepared for every crisis in an intelligent, responsible way. She has a plan and doesnt seem to have any issues with adopting good ideas from other people. But I dont think she is best choice for this moment in time.

I would very much enjoy seeing Harris eviscerate Pence in debates and flame all those assholes in the Senate from her "President in waiting" perch, while Biden shakes hands and make white dudes in the rust belt feel ok about themselves.


Warren is best in the Senate; we can afford to give up Harris there. Also, while I love Warren, this is the moment for a woman of color who projects a more youthful affect to offset Joe's...less than youthiness.
 
2020-06-30 12:35:08 PM  
5 votes:
Duckworth is really a solid pick, which means they will totally bork this up.
 
2020-06-30 12:32:25 PM  
5 votes:
Typical DNC reading the room when 2 of your final 4 include a former cop and a former prosecutor.
 
2020-06-30 12:32:18 PM  
5 votes:

FormlessOne: Biden/Warren 2020 is my personal choice, but I'll take Biden/ANY GODDAMNED SANE PERSON 2020, TBH.


I like Warren, which is why she should really be put somewhere powerful and useful like Secretary of Treasury, or really any of roughly half the cabinet positions.
VP needs to go to someone else to prep them for 2024, Warren needs to be given useful powerful leverage to use, right now.
 
2020-06-30 12:29:47 PM  
5 votes:
Warren seems to be prepared for every crisis in an intelligent, responsible way. She has a plan and doesnt seem to have any issues with adopting good ideas from other people. But I dont think she is best choice for this moment in time.

I would very much enjoy seeing Harris eviscerate Pence in debates and flame all those assholes in the Senate from her "President in waiting" perch, while Biden shakes hands and make white dudes in the rust belt feel ok about themselves.
 
2020-06-30 12:22:46 PM  
5 votes:

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously

There was an article yesterday that said Biden was down to four: Harris, Warren, Demings, and Lance Your Bottoms.


Klobo suicide vested herself and took out Warren with her saying that "Biden needs to pick a poc for vp"
 
2020-06-30 12:21:50 PM  
5 votes:

otherginger: Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously

Harris. I would like it to be Harris.


A fine choice in other years. I think that with an uprising against police and their enablers, she might be damaged by her stint as CA AG.

Whether that's fair or not is another matter, I just think it hurts her in 2020.
 
2020-06-30 11:35:06 AM  
5 votes:

Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.


While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."
 
2020-06-30 5:00:06 PM  
4 votes:

madgonad: dericwater: For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.

Diane has got to go. I was hoping that her single questionable stock transaction might hurry her out the door, but because far worse investment behavior by congresscritters was handwaved away, Diane got a pass.


Diane only has a political career because Harvey was murdered
 
2020-06-30 2:37:08 PM  
4 votes:

Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.


Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.
 
2020-06-30 1:12:40 PM  
4 votes:

madgonad: BMulligan: madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.

Yeah, although imagine her at Treasury...

That still gives a Republican another seat in the Senate. Warren is already on the Banking committee and the economic development subcommittee.


I know, which is a shame because I can think of about fifteen administration jobs she would excel at. She could be the anti-Jared Kushner. You could put in charge of everything; difference is, everything would actually get done.
 
2020-06-30 1:07:55 PM  
4 votes:

Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.


Russ will always be my hero.

He alone voted against the Patriot Act.
 
2020-06-30 1:00:49 PM  
4 votes:

Vhale: I would like Duckworth. She has achievements. She's sharp. And she'd bring out the worst in Trump. Let that hang around the GOP's necks and drown them.


I admit that, while I've admired Duckworth for some time both as a senators as a human being, this right here is a huge part of the reason why I would love to see her ad Biden's running mate.

But I think Harris will get the nod. Her seat is safe as milk so there's no risk of tilting the Senate, and for many Americans their first real look at her was when she went after Biden at the debate. I think her image as an independent thinker willing to stand for her principles and beliefs is exactly what Biden will want to project.
 
2020-06-30 12:42:49 PM  
4 votes:

APO_Buddha: I like Duckworth, but she has a problem with public speaking (See: Warren back when she started her political career). And though defeating Pence in a debate should be easy regardless of skills, I want someone that would make Pence cry and I don't know if Duckworth is that person.


Duckworth is awesome, so awesome it almost outweighs how much I would love to see a Harris destroy debate Pence
 
2020-06-30 12:39:04 PM  
4 votes:

theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.


Harris couldn't even stick around to the voting part of the primaries.
 
2020-06-30 12:30:07 PM  
4 votes:
YES!  All of those ladies form a corporation called VEEP, Inc.  Since corporations are people, VEEP, Inc. could be the Vice President.  That's a lot of brainpower and experience they could collectively bring to the ticket.  They could take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all the decision of that officer have to be ratified at a special biweekly meeting by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority in the case of more... I don't know, they'll have to figure that out.
 
2020-06-30 12:22:06 PM  
4 votes:
I like Duckworth, but she has a problem with public speaking (See: Warren back when she started her political career). And though defeating Pence in a debate should be easy regardless of skills, I want someone that would make Pence cry and I don't know if Duckworth is that person.
 
2020-06-30 5:27:28 PM  
3 votes:

Cornelius Dribble: Maybe Biden should pull a Time Magazine and announce, "My running mate is WOMEN"


Binders full of women
 
2020-06-30 2:32:37 PM  
3 votes:

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: johnphantom: I hope he picks Rice. She is all business, and you can tell that easily.

Way too much baggage.


It's good kind of baggage. If you're talking about Susan Rice. If you're talking about Condi Rice, then that's bad baggage.
 
2020-06-30 2:04:23 PM  
3 votes:

Podna: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously

There was an article yesterday that said Biden was down to four: Harris, Warren, Demings, and Lance Your Bottoms.

Klobo suicide vested herself and took out Warren with her saying that "Biden needs to pick a poc for vp"


Pretty much. No way it's Warren. The optics are horrible.
 
2020-06-30 1:31:57 PM  
3 votes:

Kangaroo_Ralph: The DNC really needs to settle on a VP pick for Biden so he can practice saying her name without throwing a gasket.


You throw a rod and blow a gasket.  Think about it, how can you throw a gasket?  If you're not gonna think about what you type, at least try to get the clichés correct.
 
2020-06-30 1:09:31 PM  
3 votes:
It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.
 
2020-06-30 12:46:22 PM  
3 votes:

PsyBomb: I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.


Harris is in California and her replacement would get appointed by the Governor, so that is safe.

Warren is a bit of a gamble, her temporary replacement would get replaced by the GOP governor BUT they have to hold a special election 145-160 days after the vacancy occurs. That very well could end up being a Democrat.
 
2020-06-30 12:43:17 PM  
3 votes:

PsyBomb: I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.


Harris wouldn't matter, governor would appoint another D.    Warren would be an issue.
 
2020-06-30 12:40:09 PM  
3 votes:

ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.


I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.
 
2020-06-30 12:36:22 PM  
3 votes:
Warren .. And Harris as A. G.  .. Can't wait to see what she'd do to Barr ..
 
2020-06-30 12:30:48 PM  
3 votes:
6. Gretchen Whitmer: ... The lack of diversity in this pick would be the most obvious drawback.

Yea, no diversity in having the first female VP ever
 
2020-06-30 12:29:57 PM  
3 votes:
Until the announcement, don't rule out dark horse Tim Kaine.
 
2020-06-30 12:16:08 PM  
3 votes:
Warren makes absolutely zero sense as the pick, so I'm betting on her.
 
2020-06-30 4:41:57 PM  
2 votes:

dericwater: For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.


Diane has got to go. I was hoping that her single questionable stock transaction might hurry her out the door, but because far worse investment behavior by congresscritters was handwaved away, Diane got a pass.
 
2020-06-30 3:27:44 PM  
2 votes:

GreatGlavinsGhost: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

/And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.

I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.

Ted Lieu would make a great replacement for Harris in the Senate.

For all of you stanning Duckworth, Abrams, or Rice, let's be clear: they're not in the running. This article is merely speculative punditry.

I like Ted, but my first guess to replace a Harris VP pick was Katie Porter.


For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.
 
2020-06-30 2:11:24 PM  
2 votes:
christ, the knots you people will tie yourself into to defend Warren not getting picked for VP
 
2020-06-30 2:03:49 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?

are you farking kidding me?

Not at all. We can't have BOTH parties playing scorched earth. Someone has to be an adult.

how is "if a senate vacancy arises, the governor must replace that senator with a person from the same party" playing scorched earth. are you brain dead?

Because that wasn't previously a law.

If they do so expect the Republican governor to name the most disliked and incompetent Democrat he can find. Maybe a paedophile that just got out of jail that is registered as a Democrat. See how that works

Serious question: does the (temporary) appointment need to approved by the legislature in Mass.?

Geniuinely curious.

I was looking at the law here, and don't see that provision (unless it is elsewhere in the statutes):


(f) Upon failure to choose a senator in congress or upon a vacancy in that office, the governor shall make a temporary appointment to fill the vacancy; provided, however, that the person so appointed shall serve until the election and qualification of the person duly elected to fill the vacancy pursuant to subsection (a) or (c).


(For some reason, my link isn't working, so try typing in this, fark keeps messing up the double "l" in "generallaws")
https://malegislature.gov/laws/genera​l​laws/parti/titleviii/chapter54/section​140
 
2020-06-30 1:38:19 PM  
2 votes:

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.


Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.
 
2020-06-30 1:26:33 PM  
2 votes:

cannibalparrot: cannibalparrot: ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.

I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.

A disabled combatveteran, at that.


been there, done that (it worked)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Cle​l​and
 
2020-06-30 1:21:30 PM  
2 votes:

Hoobajube: Harry Wagstaff: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. Anyone that wants to suggest she isn't American can promptly go fark themselves with a rocksalt dildo with alacrity.

A good 20-40% of the voting population won't let pesky facts like that get in the way of keeping birther conspiracy theories alive as a way of expressing their...economic anxiety.

We can say we don't want those votes anyways, but with the electoral college it could make a bigger difference than it should.


Those same people damn sure aren't voting for a ticket with a N*BONG on the ballot.
 
2020-06-30 1:20:37 PM  
2 votes:
Warren would be my choice for Biden..Duckworth as SecDef... Abrams as head of DOJ...
I'd like him to have Mayor Pete as either UN Ambassador or Sec of State..Corey Booker
would be a great choice for HUD or Education..
 
2020-06-30 1:10:26 PM  
2 votes:

Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.


Yup.  I'm old.

I still remember the good old days on Fark, before the political snowflakes took over the site.
 
2020-06-30 1:05:26 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.


Yeah, although imagine her at Treasury...
 
2020-06-30 1:01:35 PM  
2 votes:
I can't believe I'm first to go with Rice.  She and Biden have already worked together for 8 years, already know each others strengths and weaknesses.  She's smart, articulate and well experienced, keeps her cool, talks fast on her feet - and the bonus of already knowing and having dealt with foreign leaders on a daily basis.

I'm saying that as a die-hard Massachusetts Warren supporter.  Someone before me was right - Warren belongs in the Senate - she's a force to be reckoned with when she gets going.  Get the majority of the senate to Dems, and let Warren lead it.

Biden / Rice / Warren / Pelosi - that will make eyes pop wide open.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:46 PM  
2 votes:

Harry Wagstaff: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. Anyone that wants to suggest she isn't American can promptly go fark themselves with a rocksalt dildo with alacrity.


A good 20-40% of the voting population won't let pesky facts like that get in the way of keeping birther conspiracy theories alive as a way of expressing their...economic anxiety.

We can say we don't want those votes anyways, but with the electoral college it could make a bigger difference than it should.
 
2020-06-30 12:40:45 PM  
2 votes:

cannibalparrot: ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.

I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.


A disabled combatveteran, at that.
 
2020-06-30 12:38:21 PM  
2 votes:
It doesn't seem fair that Biden gets to choose from such a competent and qualified list and Trump is stuck with idiot Pence and even bigger idiot members of his family. Rigged election!
 
2020-06-30 12:33:48 PM  
2 votes:

edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.


McCain was born in Panama but that was never an issue for them either.
 
2020-06-30 12:25:56 PM  
2 votes:

Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously


I would even dare to say that whoever he picks as VP will be, in essence, acting PotUS during some time within his first term.
 
2020-06-30 12:23:30 PM  
2 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Oh, and handicapped.  I forgot that one.

She would just need to be a Lesbian Atheist and the sound of the right wing heads exploding would be heard on Mars.


Sound doesn't travel through space.

/I'll let myself out. ;)
 
2020-06-30 12:16:12 PM  
2 votes:

Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously


Harris. I would like it to be Harris.
 
2020-06-30 6:39:38 PM  
1 vote:

mikalmd: Warren .. And Harris as A. G.  .. Can't wait to see what she'd do to Barr ..


I'm guessing roughly the same thing she did to Mnuchin...
 
2020-06-30 6:32:45 PM  
1 vote:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."


The only Democrats who were hurt by Britherism were the cowards who preemptively ran away from Obama after it. Refusing to do something because it will make the Republicans do a racist thing is supremely stupid because racism is one of their main strategies.
 
2020-06-30 3:01:40 PM  
1 vote:

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

/And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.

I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.

Ted Lieu would make a great replacement for Harris in the Senate.

For all of you stanning Duckworth, Abrams, or Rice, let's be clear: they're not in the running. This article is merely speculative punditry.


I like Ted, but my first guess to replace a Harris VP pick was Katie Porter.
 
2020-06-30 2:57:50 PM  
1 vote:

Subtonic: dericwater: Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.

Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.

I remain to be convinced, she might have said so, but it comes off as sour grapes and burning the bridge behind her for as many other contenders as possible when she knew she couldn't get it. She comes off as that petty. I will give her this, 'shake the money tree in the wine cave' was a good line.


It's not petty, it's just reading the room correctly.  Picking a white person just isn't good optics right now.  I don't know if she *has* to be black, but if Biden doesn't pick a POC he's going to be raked over the coals by the folks who make up the core of the Democratic voting pool no matter how much she appeals to other segments .

/Duckworth 2024!
 
2020-06-30 2:10:20 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?

are you farking kidding me?

Not at all. We can't have BOTH parties playing scorched earth. Someone has to be an adult.

how is "if a senate vacancy arises, the governor must replace that senator with a person from the same party" playing scorched earth. are you brain dead?

Because that wasn't previously a law.

If they do so expect the Republican governor to name the most disliked and incompetent Democrat he can find. Maybe a paedophile that just got out of jail that is registered as a Democrat. See how that works?


yep, brain dead. bye
 
2020-06-30 2:10:12 PM  
1 vote:
I wouldn't mind any of them really. I think he would probably be wrong to pick Abrams. She seems a little too eager and doesn't have the experience of others in the list. Also I'm not sure if picking sitting senators is a good idea, but overall a solid list.
 
2020-06-30 1:53:09 PM  
1 vote:
Being selfish, but Joe can't have Michelle Lujan Grisham. She's doing an awesome job down here in New Mexico.
 
2020-06-30 1:43:59 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?

are you farking kidding me?

Not at all. We can't have BOTH parties playing scorched earth. Someone has to be an adult.


how is "if a senate vacancy arises, the governor must replace that senator with a person from the same party" playing scorched earth. are you brain dead?
 
2020-06-30 1:41:15 PM  
1 vote:

ElwoodCuse: madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?

are you farking kidding me?


Not at all. We can't have BOTH parties playing scorched earth. Someone has to be an adult.
 
2020-06-30 1:38:50 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?


are you farking kidding me?
 
2020-06-30 1:33:30 PM  
1 vote:

someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.


This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.
 
2020-06-30 1:29:23 PM  
1 vote:
Biden is tearing a Trump a new asshole right now.

Fark should have a story about it in a day or two.
 
2020-06-30 1:28:46 PM  
1 vote:

AsparagusFTW: The only logical choice.
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2020-06-30 1:25:38 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP


stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.
 
2020-06-30 1:25:09 PM  
1 vote:

Peter_B_Risen: Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.

Yup.  I'm old.

I still remember the good old days on Fark, before the political snowflakes took over the site.


Ah, so you were lurking during the threads about the pancake lady being mothballed. That was some quality snowflaking, I agree. And Gone with the Wind? Such beautiful, fragile snowflakes!
 
2020-06-30 1:16:02 PM  
1 vote:

madgonad: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

Russ will always be my hero.

He alone voted against the Patriot Act.


I gave him a chance and voted for him in 92 when he said that he would not be a one sided politician.  After a brief reach across the isles for campaign finance reform, he became totally a sided and lost my vote.
 
2020-06-30 1:14:52 PM  
1 vote:

Tyrone Slothrop: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.

Are you putting any of that past the current GOP?  She ticks off the "All the People We Hate" boxes for them: foreign, woman, minority, Democrat, and, now surprisingly, military.

Democrats worrying about how Republicans will react is one of the reasons we're in this mess. Fark 'em.


I'm worried* only in so far as it'll be the same tired old bullshiat coming from the GOP which will get played endlessly on cable news until the NYT or the WaPo picks it up because "people are talking about it," which then gets amplified by the cable news heads because now "serious journalists are questioning" blah, blah, blah and then Karen Q. Whiteperson in Wisconsin starts posting to her Facebook group that Sen. Duckworth is only faking not having legs...

/*Well, maybe it's not "worry" as much as frustration at my inability to slap people via TCP/IP.
 
2020-06-30 1:09:29 PM  
1 vote:

Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.


So what you're saying is user name checks out?
 
2020-06-30 1:08:21 PM  
1 vote:

BMulligan: Epic Fap Session: Until the announcement, don't rule out dark horse Tim Kaine.

I'm not one to join the pig pile on Hilary for her 2016 campaign. I think many of her alleged missteps are obvious only in hindsight, and that in the moment her strategy seemed sound.

But picking Kaine was just imbecilic.


The focus group called for 'boring white male' and she picked 'goofy ineffectual nobody'.
 
2020-06-30 1:04:29 PM  
1 vote:
Well he'd get the Mormon vote.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:28 PM  
1 vote:

ArkPanda: Epic Fap Session: theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.

How's that now?

Perception vs reality

Does Harris have any police brutality/corruption cases she's prosecuted?  If she can point to a record cleaning up the police that would help.


I don't know, but based on her legislative record, she's not to the right of Biden.
 
2020-06-30 12:52:30 PM  
1 vote:

Epic Fap Session: theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.

How's that now?

Perception vs reality


Does Harris have any police brutality/corruption cases she's prosecuted?  If she can point to a record cleaning up the police that would help.
 
2020-06-30 12:49:44 PM  
1 vote:
Pretty sexist not to have a least one man on that list. I feel disenfranchised, really. That said, I think Whitmer has the most to offer. Handled the virus well, can speak, has some profile, midwest swing state, no loss in the senate, not much baggage to be a lightning rod. Duck's growing on me, but it's still to early to announce. Take your time and vet the crap out of people while not giving the GOP time to dig (manufacture) dirt.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:59 PM  
1 vote:
I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:30 PM  
1 vote:
Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.
 
2020-06-30 12:36:32 PM  
1 vote:

floor: Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously

Yeah she has been clear that she has not been contacted, so while a good choice she is not in the running.

Harris is a good VP pick politically. She can be the campaigns puncher* while he plays statesman in the campaign for 2020. If she takes over my only concern would be her commitment to the justice/policing ennema this country needs.

/* Seriously, she is spectacular at this.


I wouldn't put any faith in what anyone says at this point. Think of it like the NFL draft where you don't believe a single word that a GM says.

There's a Yes Minister speech about not wanting the job, but if one's friends thought one was right for the job etc etc (I just can't find a video to share)
 
2020-06-30 12:23:04 PM  
1 vote:
Can never get my boot to stay up the way Vern does.  I'm a flop.
 
2020-06-30 12:21:27 PM  
1 vote:

Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

So, who do you want that to be.

/my money is still on Abrams
//but far less confident than I was previously


There was an article yesterday that said Biden was down to four: Harris, Warren, Demings, and Lance Your Bottoms.
 
2020-06-30 12:15:30 PM  
1 vote:

iheartscotch: Democrat Voltron?


Or a nearly ideal P/VP/Cabinet roster.
Only include Senators/Governors not otherwise up for vote this November, though.
 
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