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2020-06-30 12:37:30 PM  
Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:33 PM  
Personally I want to see Duckworth as VP and Warren as senate majority leader.
 
2020-06-30 12:37:59 PM  
I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.
 
2020-06-30 12:38:21 PM  
It doesn't seem fair that Biden gets to choose from such a competent and qualified list and Trump is stuck with idiot Pence and even bigger idiot members of his family. Rigged election!
 
2020-06-30 12:39:04 PM  

theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.


Harris couldn't even stick around to the voting part of the primaries.
 
2020-06-30 12:40:09 PM  

ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.


I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.
 
2020-06-30 12:40:45 PM  

cannibalparrot: ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.

I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.


A disabled combatveteran, at that.
 
2020-06-30 12:42:49 PM  

APO_Buddha: I like Duckworth, but she has a problem with public speaking (See: Warren back when she started her political career). And though defeating Pence in a debate should be easy regardless of skills, I want someone that would make Pence cry and I don't know if Duckworth is that person.


Duckworth is awesome, so awesome it almost outweighs how much I would love to see a Harris destroy debate Pence
 
2020-06-30 12:43:17 PM  

PsyBomb: I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.


Harris wouldn't matter, governor would appoint another D.    Warren would be an issue.
 
2020-06-30 12:45:15 PM  

baorao: Warren seems to be prepared for every crisis in an intelligent, responsible way. She has a plan and doesnt seem to have any issues with adopting good ideas from other people. But I dont think she is best choice for this moment in time.

I would very much enjoy seeing Harris eviscerate Pence in debates and flame all those assholes in the Senate from her "President in waiting" perch, while Biden shakes hands and make white dudes in the rust belt feel ok about themselves.


Warren is best in the Senate; we can afford to give up Harris there. Also, while I love Warren, this is the moment for a woman of color who projects a more youthful affect to offset Joe's...less than youthiness.
 
2020-06-30 12:46:22 PM  

PsyBomb: I would absolutely love to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ANY SITTING SENATOR FROM THIS LIST. Dems do not need to be giving up a seat right now when they already need to go +4 net, gaining the Presidency but not the Senate means that Yertle can continue to sit on judicial appointments and House bills (unless McGrath pulls off the Hail Mary throw and unseats him).

As a result, though it's currently a long shot, I'm hoping for Stacey Abrams.


Harris is in California and her replacement would get appointed by the Governor, so that is safe.

Warren is a bit of a gamble, her temporary replacement would get replaced by the GOP governor BUT they have to hold a special election 145-160 days after the vacancy occurs. That very well could end up being a Democrat.
 
2020-06-30 12:48:00 PM  

theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.


How's that now?

Perception vs reality
 
2020-06-30 12:48:55 PM  
My preference is Duckworth. Warren, as others have said, would be best served as majority leader.
 
2020-06-30 12:49:04 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Whoever he picks will very likely be the first female president.

My money is on Harris, but any of those women is highly competent and qualified.

Also, no matter who it is, a bunch of people will criticize him because she's too moderate, too far left, pandering, shrill, low IQ (well just one guy will say that), too much of an insider, too unknown, much concern, concern, concern...



He only says that about black people.
 
2020-06-30 12:49:44 PM  
Pretty sexist not to have a least one man on that list. I feel disenfranchised, really. That said, I think Whitmer has the most to offer. Handled the virus well, can speak, has some profile, midwest swing state, no loss in the senate, not much baggage to be a lightning rod. Duck's growing on me, but it's still to early to announce. Take your time and vet the crap out of people while not giving the GOP time to dig (manufacture) dirt.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:08 PM  
Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.
 
2020-06-30 12:50:59 PM  
One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

/And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.
 
2020-06-30 12:51:24 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.


16 year account ladies and gentlemen.
 
2020-06-30 12:52:30 PM  

Epic Fap Session: theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.

How's that now?

Perception vs reality


Does Harris have any police brutality/corruption cases she's prosecuted?  If she can point to a record cleaning up the police that would help.
 
2020-06-30 12:53:10 PM  

Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

/And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.


I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:28 PM  

ArkPanda: Epic Fap Session: theteacher: Harris has a Black problem...as in she has prosecuted many POC. She is too far right for Biden. Biden needs to make sure that the Bernie Bros have someone they won't turn their noses up to and NOT vote.

How's that now?

Perception vs reality

Does Harris have any police brutality/corruption cases she's prosecuted?  If she can point to a record cleaning up the police that would help.


I don't know, but based on her legislative record, she's not to the right of Biden.
 
2020-06-30 12:56:46 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. Anyone that wants to suggest she isn't American can promptly go fark themselves with a rocksalt dildo with alacrity.


A good 20-40% of the voting population won't let pesky facts like that get in the way of keeping birther conspiracy theories alive as a way of expressing their...economic anxiety.

We can say we don't want those votes anyways, but with the electoral college it could make a bigger difference than it should.
 
2020-06-30 1:00:49 PM  

Vhale: I would like Duckworth. She has achievements. She's sharp. And she'd bring out the worst in Trump. Let that hang around the GOP's necks and drown them.


I admit that, while I've admired Duckworth for some time both as a senators as a human being, this right here is a huge part of the reason why I would love to see her ad Biden's running mate.

But I think Harris will get the nod. Her seat is safe as milk so there's no risk of tilting the Senate, and for many Americans their first real look at her was when she went after Biden at the debate. I think her image as an independent thinker willing to stand for her principles and beliefs is exactly what Biden will want to project.
 
2020-06-30 1:01:35 PM  
I can't believe I'm first to go with Rice.  She and Biden have already worked together for 8 years, already know each others strengths and weaknesses.  She's smart, articulate and well experienced, keeps her cool, talks fast on her feet - and the bonus of already knowing and having dealt with foreign leaders on a daily basis.

I'm saying that as a die-hard Massachusetts Warren supporter.  Someone before me was right - Warren belongs in the Senate - she's a force to be reckoned with when she gets going.  Get the majority of the senate to Dems, and let Warren lead it.

Biden / Rice / Warren / Pelosi - that will make eyes pop wide open.
 
2020-06-30 1:04:29 PM  
Well he'd get the Mormon vote.
 
2020-06-30 1:04:35 PM  

Epic Fap Session: Until the announcement, don't rule out dark horse Tim Kaine.


I'm not one to join the pig pile on Hilary for her 2016 campaign. I think many of her alleged missteps are obvious only in hindsight, and that in the moment her strategy seemed sound.

But picking Kaine was just imbecilic.
 
2020-06-30 1:05:26 PM  

madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.


Yeah, although imagine her at Treasury...
 
2020-06-30 1:07:55 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.


Russ will always be my hero.

He alone voted against the Patriot Act.
 
2020-06-30 1:08:21 PM  

BMulligan: Epic Fap Session: Until the announcement, don't rule out dark horse Tim Kaine.

I'm not one to join the pig pile on Hilary for her 2016 campaign. I think many of her alleged missteps are obvious only in hindsight, and that in the moment her strategy seemed sound.

But picking Kaine was just imbecilic.


The focus group called for 'boring white male' and she picked 'goofy ineffectual nobody'.
 
2020-06-30 1:09:29 PM  

Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.


So what you're saying is user name checks out?
 
2020-06-30 1:09:31 PM  
It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.
 
2020-06-30 1:09:42 PM  

BMulligan: madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.

Yeah, although imagine her at Treasury...


That still gives a Republican another seat in the Senate. Warren is already on the Banking committee and the economic development subcommittee.
 
2020-06-30 1:10:26 PM  

Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.


Yup.  I'm old.

I still remember the good old days on Fark, before the political snowflakes took over the site.
 
2020-06-30 1:12:40 PM  

madgonad: BMulligan: madgonad: He isn't picking Warren. We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP. Especially an OLD VP that won't have legs to run on her own in 2028. I like the sound of Senate Majority Leader Warren better than VP Warren.

Yeah, although imagine her at Treasury...

That still gives a Republican another seat in the Senate. Warren is already on the Banking committee and the economic development subcommittee.


I know, which is a shame because I can think of about fifteen administration jobs she would excel at. She could be the anti-Jared Kushner. You could put in charge of everything; difference is, everything would actually get done.
 
2020-06-30 1:14:33 PM  
The DNC really needs to settle on a VP pick for Biden so he can practice saying her name without throwing a gasket.
 
2020-06-30 1:14:52 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: edmo: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She' s a US citizen by birth. Anybody trying to detract from that is doing the birther thing all over again and it's pure racism.

Are you putting any of that past the current GOP?  She ticks off the "All the People We Hate" boxes for them: foreign, woman, minority, Democrat, and, now surprisingly, military.

Democrats worrying about how Republicans will react is one of the reasons we're in this mess. Fark 'em.


I'm worried* only in so far as it'll be the same tired old bullshiat coming from the GOP which will get played endlessly on cable news until the NYT or the WaPo picks it up because "people are talking about it," which then gets amplified by the cable news heads because now "serious journalists are questioning" blah, blah, blah and then Karen Q. Whiteperson in Wisconsin starts posting to her Facebook group that Sen. Duckworth is only faking not having legs...

/*Well, maybe it's not "worry" as much as frustration at my inability to slap people via TCP/IP.
 
2020-06-30 1:16:02 PM  

madgonad: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

Russ will always be my hero.

He alone voted against the Patriot Act.


I gave him a chance and voted for him in 92 when he said that he would not be a one sided politician.  After a brief reach across the isles for campaign finance reform, he became totally a sided and lost my vote.
 
2020-06-30 1:20:37 PM  
Warren would be my choice for Biden..Duckworth as SecDef... Abrams as head of DOJ...
I'd like him to have Mayor Pete as either UN Ambassador or Sec of State..Corey Booker
would be a great choice for HUD or Education..
 
2020-06-30 1:21:30 PM  

Hoobajube: Harry Wagstaff: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."

She had ancestors that fought in the Revolutionary War. Anyone that wants to suggest she isn't American can promptly go fark themselves with a rocksalt dildo with alacrity.

A good 20-40% of the voting population won't let pesky facts like that get in the way of keeping birther conspiracy theories alive as a way of expressing their...economic anxiety.

We can say we don't want those votes anyways, but with the electoral college it could make a bigger difference than it should.


Those same people damn sure aren't voting for a ticket with a N*BONG on the ballot.
 
2020-06-30 1:25:09 PM  

Peter_B_Risen: Gubbo: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

16 year account ladies and gentlemen.

Yup.  I'm old.

I still remember the good old days on Fark, before the political snowflakes took over the site.


Ah, so you were lurking during the threads about the pancake lady being mothballed. That was some quality snowflaking, I agree. And Gone with the Wind? Such beautiful, fragile snowflakes!
 
2020-06-30 1:25:38 PM  

madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP


stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.
 
2020-06-30 1:26:33 PM  

cannibalparrot: cannibalparrot: ColonelCathcart: [assets.vogue.com image 850x582]

/Book it. Done.

I hope so.  I can't wait to see the GOP tie itself in knots raving about how a disabled veteran hates America.

A disabled combatveteran, at that.


been there, done that (it worked)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Cle​l​and
 
2020-06-30 1:28:46 PM  

AsparagusFTW: The only logical choice.
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2020-06-30 1:29:23 PM  
Biden is tearing a Trump a new asshole right now.

Fark should have a story about it in a day or two.
 
2020-06-30 1:31:57 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: The DNC really needs to settle on a VP pick for Biden so he can practice saying her name without throwing a gasket.


You throw a rod and blow a gasket.  Think about it, how can you throw a gasket?  If you're not gonna think about what you type, at least try to get the clichés correct.
 
2020-06-30 1:33:30 PM  

someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.


This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.
 
2020-06-30 1:38:18 PM  

ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.


See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?
 
2020-06-30 1:38:19 PM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.


Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.
 
2020-06-30 1:38:50 PM  

madgonad: ElwoodCuse: madgonad: We aren't going to give away a seat in the Senate for a VP

stop farking saying this. The Massachusetts legislature is a Dem supermajority and can require her replacement to be a Democrat.

See, that's how Republicans operate.

Can we try to be the Good Guys? At least for as long as we can?


are you farking kidding me?
 
2020-06-30 1:39:43 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: Warren would be my choice for Biden..Duckworth as SecDef... Abrams as head of DOJ...
I'd like him to have Mayor Pete as either UN Ambassador or Sec of State..Corey Booker
would be a great choice for HUD or Education..


Really. Putting the black guy in HUD again?
 
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